I have been using Todoist for a long time. Occasionally, I get the "grass is greener on the other side of the fence" itch and try something else. I always come back to Todoist and realize that what I don't like about it is my fault. I end up with a billion tasks (rough estimate) and opening Todoist becomes a turnoff. Now, I regularly, "Marie Kondo" the shit of my Todoist, do a hard wipe, whatever you want to call it, and then fall back in love with Todoist. Plus Things3 is anti-Windows and Web so that is a deal-breaker for me.
For me, Things 3 is the winner all the way. If you follow GTD as I do (although with my own modifications to it), Things just works way better than any other task / project manager.Also I am a huge sucker for UI and simplicity which Things 3 nails. I am running 4 businesses and my whole private life out of it and I have never skipped the beat. But everyone is different - use whatever tool makes you more productive and moves the needle!
@@7evintheproducer Yeah, still using it and enjoying the heck of it! Simplicity and best UI of any todo / project management app is keeping me stick to it as I am simply getting things done!
Awesome job mate, I really like your reviews, they are so authentic, you talk about the stuff that a real users would be looking for or would want to use, as opposed to some reviews where you feel it is almost scripted by some marketing guy, all the best mate, and stay strong!
I used to be an avid Todoist user. Then I decided to try Things3 in my workflow. Given its native nature, iOS / Apple feel and speed, along with the super minimalistic UI and flow, it just ended up working for me. I am a very big native, minimal speed junky on Apple products (I am a Software Engineer so it is something I naturally gravitate towards in regards to speed and ease of use). Given all this, I found numerous problems with Things3. The lack of Natural Language is a very large one, but others would be way better tag handling, filters, smart lists, better sub-task entry user flow, etc. Also, the development , team and company is very active and transparent. I appreciate all of it. But what sucks is that visually i just see that difference in UI and regardless of Todoist looking nice as well, Things clicks better UI wise. I go back and forth too much, lol.
I use and like Todoist (especially 2-way Google/Outlook Calendar sync), but I feel Things is better-looking, and better for longer text entry, and better for subtasks.
Good video. My favorite setup is Toodledo (vs Todoist) and Pocket Informant (vs Fantastical). Similar functionality. Toodledo has good options with IFTTT. Thanks for sharing your ideas.
Based on your comment on design, I would suggest that Todoist should allow for removing the colored dots in the project names. I also use emoji’s in my project names and that makes the dots redundant.
Thanks for always well-produced videos. A single but important thing… When you create a video about going from product x to product y, please be aware of a certain level of responsibility you have. For x number of users will definitely follow your recommendation - and thus provoke switching costs. Eg. it can cost tons of hours to go from Things to Todoist. Of course, as such, it is not your personal responsibility whether other people will spend a large number of hours switching platforms. But specifically in this case, then we have to assume that Things 4 is close to release. There will definitely be a number of improvements here. Improvements that reduce or completely eliminate the need for switching from Things to Todoist. Remember that productivity is a tricky thing. Todoist might do a single thing 3 seconds faster. But if you spend 10 hours on switching costs, then it does not matter. So congratulations on your own switch to Todoist. But as you point out, you'll probably end up returning to Things 4. So maybe you should have just made the switch from Things 3 to Todoist without any public hassle and then wait to release a video until Things 4 is released. That way you do not waste other people's time - because some will follow you no matter what. Keep up the good work.
I used Todoist for years, then switched to Things and then went to Apple Reminders with iOS 13. I agree that the UI of Things is still superior, but it just lacks so much functionality that other apps have. I am still using Reminders, which has gotten even better with iOS 15. However, I am seriously considering returning to Todoist at least for work projects because my research projects are a bit more complex than what Reminders can handle. I'm particularly interested in the Kanban board functionality.
Apple Reminders is not good for me because of its weird UX, e.g. swiping should be able to reschedule task in prior of other actions; When I want to "reschedule" a task, I press the task to edit the "title" first, then press details, and then date; The smart list feature is not smart at all, lol; And, I often need to scroll down to change task-priority. I am still focusing myself to use Apple Reminders. I think I will move back to Todoist soon. Todoist has "description" now! It is more useful for me. Todoist's Kanban feature is good, but it lacks preview picture (that exist in Trello). I almost don't care about this feature anymore 😛
@@Edditoria You can swipe to reschedule in the Today and Scheduled view of Apple Reminders. But I agree some of it is not the best UI. Todoist definitely has some really good swiping and natural language features. I did end up going back to Todoist for a bit but ultimately missed the excellent Siri and device integration with Apple Reminders, so I went back to that. I have found that using GoodTask alongside Apple reminders can make using the app faster. GoodTask is worth checking out. Takes a bit of effort to customize it, but might be worth it.
I like the interface with Google calendar, in the same way that your calendar dioes. With Gmail, I like that I can bring emails into Todoist as a task. the task is a link back to the email itself, if I need to access it there (with any attachments therein). Thanks for this list
No start date. No good way to manage Someday/Maybe. Filtered views that are so intoxicating, but never seem to show me what I wanted/needed to see. Those were the three things that were hard to get over for me.
Do you manage your projects here too? Or do you have any other project-management platform? If so, how do you manage between the other project-management platform and todoist? I ask because it looks like you should have various projects and also see that you have todoist premium but with so little number of tasks.
Big fan of Things, beautiful and works for my workflow, except that is doesn't. Cultured Code refuses to develop for any platform but Apple, and even worse than that they refuse to offer an online web version. They are obviously smart, so they can offer a web version, which means they just do not care. I mostly use Apple products but I am often on the road and want to manage my Things on a big screen from some other computer. Cultured Code arrogantly says "We know better than the user how they want or need to use our software." Geez
I wanted to love Things, but I can’t get past the lack of sub-projects and/or the ability to schedule sub-tasks. I don’t necessarily follow GTD 1 to 1.
Todoist is way more powerful than Things - more features especially comments, attachments, markdown, live links, infinite levels of subtasks. But Things still wins are here's why: the simplicity of the user interface. A task manager is ultimately a repository of information - not a whole bunch of info but just the critical info for a task. (Want to add in more info then use (and link to) notes in Evernote or Bear. Also also put your important attachments in Bear or Evernote not in your task manager.) To edit that critical info there is only one notes place in Things -- that's it and it's easy to edit. In Todoist you have to click on the notes section or maybe part of your info is in one of the comments - you have to click on the edit comments icon. It's a jumble. To repeat, in Things it's just one place and it's always in edit mode. That alone right there makes it fun and easy to see everything in one place. Did I mention that the editing UI in Todoist is... ugly. Second there is no working URL scheme in Todoist. In Things every project is shareable with a link - you can put that link in Bear or Evernote and, presto, everything is integrated. Truly amazing. Lastly there is the killer feature of Things - deadlines. You can enter a deadline and a start date. In Todoist you can also create start dates but it has to be a subtask with it's own date and it's own set of notes. But just to be fair, this is all a hard one for me as I switch back and forth with Things and Todoist. With Todoist you can create really complex filters. It's very powerful as in a filter that show incomplete tasks because either it's in the Inbox or it's missing (priority or due date). Things is missing priorities altogether and you can only emulate with a tag called "Important" or one I use like this: ❗- so that it's red, short and visible. But you can't create filters with Things based on this, although when you are in each project, or Today or any other list there is a tag filter bar on top. In the end, however, simplicity and the joy to use won out over feature horsepower. A tough battle in my head but this is my $0.02.
Do you still use Fantastical now that they upped their price? Also, if you like todoist so much why do you keep going back to Things? Seems like you don’t like Things.
when you have a "for now" in the title, makes your case way less compelling = way less views. I can attest to this since i'm not even going to watch the video but will gladly leave this tip. take that for what you will
Are you getting sound alerts from Todoist? I never hear anything when a reminder pops up - that pretty much defeats the whole purpose of using it for me.
