Why (I Think) Capcom VS SNK 2 is Better 

THIS VIDEO IS HEAVILY OPINIONATED BUT I UNDERSTAND IF YOU DISAGREE!

The first Capcom vs SNK game had better stage intros. The sequel had a better roster & more grooves & game modes

I always felt what most do; CVS1 had better aesthetics and presentation but CVS2 had better mechanics and systems.

CVS2 made me want to be good at fighting games. The Roster, Music, All of the groove options, and alot of other stuff made me want to try this game out seriously. I legit think this is one of the best fighting games ever made. (In My Opinion)

Cvs1 - presentation Cvs2 - gameplay But I do miss some of the ex characters from cvs1

Everybody already knows 2 is better than 1.

Is this some joke I’m not getting? I thought everyone preferred 2.

CVS2 is a legendary fighting game

0:20 thats a good thing. CVS2 is over 20 years old yet it is still being played today! That shows how great the game is

1:45-2:30 well CVS1 also had Pair Match Mode where you could pick any two characters

Cap vs SNK 2 is possibly THE best 2D fighter ever. Needs a remake/update…. Cuz there is a good deal of jank in the game.

Nice video, never knew much about the CVS series but I might have to boot up CVS2 on fightcade now

I turned 29 years old today and i am still love CVS2😀

I listen to "this is true love " every day 🎉

Not sure where SvC Chaos and the Neo Geo Pocket Color game fit in the conversation here, but good analysis. You did forget that P-Groove is a combination of 3S and ST, and A-Groove may have some inspiration from Darkstalkers to an extent. I predict that a third game in the series would play more like the Marvel series than CvS2 (which is kinda what SvC Chaos did at least in terms of the roster), to avoid overlapping with COTW/SF6, which is why I want to make a spiritual successor to CvS2, adding in even more grooves. SvC Chaos was ultimately the only game to reflect the early plans to have a variety of represented genres (albeit via sub-bosses/superbosses) EDIT: With guests in SF6, now I'm anticipating what'll happen on SNK's end, and this MIGHT make it even more likely for a new game to resemble the Marvel series.

Capcom vs SNK 2 had it all: 1. Big roster 2. Many grooves 3. Great animation 4. Great music 5. Good looking sprites 6. Many modes 7. Epic boss battles

7:55 - you can dash in KoF'94, but you can't run. KoF'96 was the first game in the KoF series with forward/backward rolls, short hops and the ability to run. Also the super jumps were different to KoF'94 and '95, but much easier to do.

CVS2 is a masterpiece. it had all that you love from both capcom fighters and snk fighters

I have Capcom vs SNK 2 for ps2

12:30 - A small detail but nonetheless appreciated: when you mentioned the buttons changing between four and six, you left the sentence at "went in the opposite direction" without saying what the opposite was, as it's not needed. I don't know why but it always kind of annoys me when people (quite often) say what the obvious opposite thing is so thanks for streamlining the dialogue a bit by doing what you did.

I always liked the 1v1 team aspect they took from the KOF games. Also ratio was awesome.

It was one of my favourites on PS2, what a time it was to be a gamer

The color editor in this game is beyond amazing

You forgot to mention the arcade mode where you can fight certain boss characters if certain conditions are met

@12:28 I can't believe one sweep fucking killed Kyosuke! In all seriousness, this video is super cool and informative!

Cvs2 was the game that had me in a hold in high school.... still one of the best fighters ive ever played

Maaaan! CVS2! I've started playing it in 2005 something like that. It's still my favorite

The only people that prefer CvS1 are the ones who really hate roll cancelling and Blanka or people that like the 2D backgrounds more.

Great video! Even though you say this was opinionated, I don't think anyone can argue against your points. Man, I wish we could just get a definitive CVS2 that adds stages and music from CVS1. That would be sick. Or even better, a CVS3! I can't imagine how crazy that roster would be.

Wide-screen hack in the footage makes the game look weird

Marvel vs Capcom 2 is coming out to Nintendo Switch, not complaining.. But I rather it be Capcom vs SNK 2.

The version of Kyo they should've used in the original Capcom vs. SNK games is the white-jacket version from KoF 2000 - 2002. What was also needed is a prequel saga called "Capcom vs. SNK Zer0" where an Alpha Ryu first meets Kyo in his signature black school uniform.

I've never played the 1st CvS. Capcom vs SNK 2 is my favorite fighting game EVER!!! #1 in my book. Great times! Great memories. Alot of rage quitting in some matches. Soundtrack is EPIC and LEGENDARY!!!! Roster is Fantastic. I already was a Street Fighter fan. This game made me a King of Fighters fan. The stages are beautiful. A lot of fighting games might disagree but I love the easy access to special moves. 2002, Nintendo GameCube memories.

The difference in gameplay options is crazy It's nuts to me now to see how this game came together. There's so much they had to put together.

@ 6:31 6:50 7:47 & 8:14 There's a slight, but important mistake at these time stamps. Every time you mention "counter attacks", you show a gameplay example of what is technically a counter attack, but the "counter attack" the grooves allow is different. "Counter Attack" is a defensive option where you press forward and both medium attacks together when you are blocking an attack. It allows you to come out of block stun with an attack that deals very little damage, and knocks your opponent down at the cost of meter. This is known as an "Alpha Counter" in SF Alpha (or more recently "Drive Counter" in SF6). The SNK equivalent would be Guard Cancel Blowback in KOF. The amount of meter you need to perform it is what's required to perform a level 1 super in each groove. C groove would be one stock out of 3. A groove would be the halfway marker. S groove would be when you fully charge the meter while "Max mode" is activated and ticking down. It takes all your remaining meter, and will still require max mode activation even when your health is flashing (this way you don't just get infinite free counter attacks). N groove requires one stock of meter that isn't used as a power up. When you've used a stock as a power up, you are still required to have another unused stock to perform Counter Attack. This is pretty nuanced, and completely changes whether it's worth it or not to use this technique depending on the groove you have chosen. What you showed in your examples was when you hit an attack button in neutral, and it makes contact with your opponent while they are in the startup of an attack of their own. Yes, this is also known as "counter hit", but it is a very different thing. This is a universal, system-wide mechanic that is available regardless of groove. A move connecting as a Counter in this context will do a little more damage, and causes more hit stun than normal. This allows for combos that are "counter hit only".

First time I've seen this game in Widescreen, it works better than I'd expect all things considered.

when he describes counter attack, shows counter hit on screen I don't think he knows what alpha counters/blowback attacks are also K-groove combine the JD system from mark of the wolves into the Rage from Samsho. JD allows life regen and rage build ups, so you are not dead if you are good enough even with low health

It's a toss up. CVS2 has more characters and different fighting modes. That's about it. What I love and think CvS1 is superior is that it has a better presentation. It's feels epic that Capcom and SNK are going against each other. It has a better soundtrack than the sequel. The announcer is way better and professional. Feels like an important event. The announcer in Part 2 feels goofy. It's a toss up but the presentation alone make me like CvS1 better.

My first SF and kof game I love CAPCOM V SNK 2

What's everyone's go-to groove, team, and ratios? Mine are K-Groove, 1-Eagle, 1-Honda, and 2-Kim.

I think with how the business is run today it will be really hard for both of the companies to want to make another one, but one can always dream ig.

Just managed to play this amazing game on my retro device a week ago! it was really amazing and i loved the feel and visuals. (Buff Sagat, no 20 years isn't too late)

K groove meter can be built via JD not only taking a beating

great video, but i wish that the game wasnt in fullscreen in this vid, the giant black gaps on the screen's edges make it look horrible

What really broke cvs1 for me was 4 ratio 1 ken's 😂 we had SO MUCH FUN with those low level characters

CvS2 is the best... even with roll canceling which wasn't mentioned in the video. The glitch just became part of the game.

100% agree. Actually is steel my favorite crossover fighting game all time. We need CvS3 with classic 2.5D style more or less like Melty Blood series did with Type Lumina.

Its without a doubt the deepest fighting game ever. The amount of options with its roster size and grove system is literally limitless.

CVS 1 was a true vibe.

CVS2 is the better game but CVS1 is the better Crossover as it really does offer the best mix of Capcom and SNK play Styles.

Capcom’s roster isn’t really diverse unlike SNK’s roster which was since it was based on a fighting game of many fighting game characters. Characters like Hibiki, Haohmaru, and Nakoruru weren’t on King of Fighters yet which makes the quality on the SNK side. Might as well call it: “Street Fighter V.S. SNK.”

CVS 2 IS GOAT 🐐 Raging Storm for Geese never gets old

2 is just the superior game I wish there was a slight upgrade in the sprites and some balancing though because it is seriously broken

Wish capcom made like a anbernic device and put cvs 1 and 2 and able to plug into monitors and TV with online .

This should be on modern consoles and pc with cross play.

Cool video dude, but I really wish you didn’t play emulators with all these visual defects

Great game till this day, one of the best fighting game of all time hands down

I will gladly Blanka roar to punish anyone's Genocide Cutter.

CvS2 was the best fighting game until 3rd strike suddenly got more popular.

Respectfully I’m not sure this video needed to be made, lol. It’s pretty much widely agreed upon and known that CvS2 is a better game than CvS1. I love both, but gameplay wise 2 is clearly better. But I will say that I have definitely always loved the music, aesthetic, and overall presentation of CvS1 more for sure.

I remember going to buy this game upon release. As I’m leaving my apartment my friend approached my door and surprised me with a copy of the game. I was extremely excited, had a great time but something was missing from CVS2! I don’t know what it is but I get so bored playing/watching CVS2 and think the vanilla was darker, better stages and more footsie old school based. It just seems like CVS1 took much more skill, more classic gameplay The music and The boss characters is the only thing better in my op. Besides…..in the arcade I would go at least 5-0 CVS2 maybe 2 win streak…..Them mechanics seem a bit forgiving in CVS2 compared to vanilla in my op😮 I did kinda think the robot announcer seemed Corny/Cool

The stages/backgrounds of part 1 were at least 4 times better than CvS2's!! ❤

10:24 any fighting game with actual megaman is automatically top tier. Evwn mvci. Idk how he wouldve played in a game that doesnt have mvc combos though

nice video 👍👍👍👍

Just like my profile says on everything. CVS2 for life

I think cvs1 stages and presentation just clears 2, which has it pretty good too but y'know i like the juice of cvs1

Great vid

The only thing I didnt like of the capcom vs snk games aside from cvs chaos is the lazyness of just using sprites from different games which art styles dont match at all.

Coldest take in ages lmao

You can argue the capcom vs snk 2 roster and balance of gameplay was better, but it lacked the charm, unlockables, stages, presentation and Music of the original Game which is a big deal For me.

Will there ever be a CVS 3??😔

Lol this was never an argument? Everyone acknowledges CVS2 is the better game, CVS1 was a busted mess that was fun for a bit but didn't execute as a concept like CVS2 did

I hate the stage at 7:38. Someone please lmk if it's banned

Nothing wrong with this opinion. I feel as though SNK Vs. Capcom Match of the Millenium is better than both CVS1 & 2

I prefer CvS1. The sequel is basically Sagat vs Capcom and SNK.

CVS1 imo had the single greatest aesthetics & soundtrack in a fighting game EVER. There’s still nothing quite like that Turn of the Millennium futurism that permeated anything “2000-related”, so Capcom ABSOLUTELY HIT A HOME RUN in that department! Unfortunately, the Groove system was a bit half-baked and the roster/tier system was a huge miss 🤷🏽‍♂️ Sure, CVS2 had some absolute BOPS and still plays the best out of any of Capcom’s 1990s output, but it kind of lost that magic from what CVS1 went for and instead just became “World Tour The Fighting Game”

I love cvs2 so much

I actually prefer CvS1 but 100% CvS2 is a better game. I played CvS2 when it came out and was around for the discovery of roll cancels and well...that sucked all the fun out of the game for me. I'm sure it's evolved by now but there was a time when people kept spamming invincible moves. That and the absurdly broken A-groove combos made it really miserable to play at a competitive level. That and just like...I felt like I was forced into playing characters in CvS2 that weren't fun and I didn't particularly like. At least CvS1, for all its flaws, there were top tier characters that were fun for me to play. Just my opinion, this is 100% a me problem. And yeah, CvS2 was super fun at a casual level when both players are bad and don't know how to abuse the mechanics. Would love a new CvS game, it's been a while.

My question is, why did CvS2 go backwards in aesthetics and presentation when the art team had so much less work to do? The first CvS game had around 23 characters with brand new sprites, including all 18 of the SNK fighters and at least 5 re-designs on the Street Fighter side. I don't think Capcom has ever had a fighting game with that much new character artwork on Day 1. SNK has, but they didn't work on this game. CvS2 only adds 10 characters if you don't count Rolento's re-used Alpha sprites. That should have left time to work on other aspects of CvS2's presentation. Not counting the music, because that's a different team.

Both games flawed but fun. Roll cancel sours me on CVS 2 otherwise it's the better game. Overall cvs1 is better. It's super turbo cheap so that's ok, cvs2 high level revolves around RCand I just can't get down with that

Any real fight gamer knows cvsnk2 is technically the best fighting game ever

I mean its a top 10 FG of all time.

BEST FIGHTING GAME. MOST VARIETY AND CHARACTER DIVERSITY

Any lag when playing online

Better than what. Why can't the title say why I think CVS too is better than CVS 1

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Me again! Cvs2 has better presentation? This is where I disagree. Look at 13:25 Reality in not brightly colored like that. Cvs1 had it better with the use of BLACK as seen in 13:59 You have to admit That looks better

Uh is this news to anyone?

No, CvS2 is objectively a better game. CvS1 may have had some better *production values,* but CvS2 is the better total package all around.

Don’t everyone think cvs2 is better?

Cvs2 is the best game of all time

Am i trippin? I Thought sequels are SUPPOSED to be better 🤔

Nah, I disagree.

tf u mean i think WE KNOW IT BATTER IT PRETTY MUCH A FAX LMAOO

It came out so quickly after the first one, and the console port was on PS2 rather than Ps1. Despite its cult like status I don’t think it either was a super successful financially. That’s probably why there’s no downloadable versions or remastered ports anywhere.

Had crappy character endings. Lack of stages and stage music.

No, SVC Chaos is way better, and CVS2 is overrated.

It's a 6 button fighter. Instantly makes it the better game.

So you noticed everything EXCEPT Balrog being the ONNNNLY Melanated character? (nobody's skin is black)

Any of these 2 are better and have way more style, especially 1. Than gummy fighter 6. Gummy fighter 6 makes the world warriors look like plastic freaks. It’s hilarious how everyone bitched about mvci and like chun li’s face, meanwhile Guile/blanka in sf6 their face, everyone is quiet.