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Why I've Had Enough of Adobe Products 

Dries Ketels
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@kennythecomiccollector
@kennythecomiccollector 4 месяца назад
When the subscription model was announced, I immediately purchased PS CS6 and LR 5 desktop versions. I didn't want to be rent, I wanted to own. I have been using them ever since. I also use the Affinity 2.x suite of products.
@Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel
@Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel 4 месяца назад
I had CS5, Subscriptions were already in effect when I went back into needing to use Adobe. I managed to convince them to get CS6 and pay for the upgrade from CS5-CS6. My situation was a bit different, it’s when I became disabled but wanted to have suite for my mental health. CS5 was bricked because of OS upgrade.
@KuttyJoe
@KuttyJoe 3 месяца назад
You know, if you're using a Mac, support for CS6 would have ended many years ago so it would have been impossible, unless you maintained an old machine. But, with each OS upgrade, the software runs slower and slower to the point where it would just aggravate you to use it. Things are a little bit different on the Windows side. As of Windows 10, I'm still able to install and run CS3. The backwards compatibility far better than with MacOS. Not that I'm championing Windows over Macs. I hate Windows but this one thing has always been a big advantage, along with pricing. But with Adobe, I continued to use CS3 until 2017 where I finally decided that I was missing out on too much and I started to subscribe to Adobe CC. I'm not a fan of subscriptions, but for Illustrator and Photoshop there's just nothing nearly as good. There are lots of other programs that people refer to as "alternatives" but I haven't found that to be true. But I think it's true for other Adobe products. There are real competitors that are as good and better than Adobe's products.
@Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel
@Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel 3 месяца назад
@@KuttyJoe Up to few months ago I was using CS6 on my old mac. I was hoping to be in a place where I could have bought a newer mac or pc keep my CS6. But alas, I couldn’t and I updated it. Adobe made it clear to me that I couldn’t move my license to window based machine. I’m disabled on limited income. So whatever extra I have goes to necessities. In my case was I got a new 3D printer and sadly I needed to upgrade my mac. I do run windows 10 on that machine, but that would have limited my ability and security of the slicer I needed to use. When the time comes, I will get a new machine, and restore that Mac so I can get illustrator back. But the simple fact they wouldn’t allow me to move my license to windows….kind of put the nail into the coffin for me. As much as I love the mac, it does have its flaw, those flaws are not enough for me to go all the way into windows. At one point my business revolved around Adobe, but it’s no longer the case. Adobe usage for me at this point is just workflow comfort. Nothing more. I paid a lot over the years, but it doesn’t worth financially to keep paying for it.
@aplanebagel
@aplanebagel 4 месяца назад
Adobe was always in it for the money , their prices, ideology and principles were always ludicrous, it never was about "helping artist".
@driesketels
@driesketels 4 месяца назад
Yeah I think it took me a while to see that. ps: If you have recommendations. I need a replacement for premiere and photoshop.
@aplanebagel
@aplanebagel 4 месяца назад
@@driesketels to replace photoshop 1 - for photo editing I'd say Affinity Photo ( the suite is on sale right now, Photo, Designer ( illustrator replacement ) and Publisher ( InDesign replacement ) 2- for art like illustration go with Krita if you like it free, Clip Studio paint if you like to pay. To replace premiere I strongly suggest Davinci Resolve. Happy migration ! :)
@MicheleBusdraghi
@MicheleBusdraghi 4 месяца назад
​@@driesketels Photoshop = Affinity Photo. No Subscription, no machine learning, no creative useless cloud, you can do 80-90% of what you do on Photoshop (at the moment 50% off) Premiiere = Da Vinci Resolve. The Free version is really good and can do pretty much all the things Premiere can. The Fusion page is hard to learn but you can live without it.
@taniasillustration
@taniasillustration 4 месяца назад
Maybe affinity photo and Final Cut pro:)
@seanodanielsart
@seanodanielsart 4 месяца назад
I've used Adobe PS since 1991. I stopped using all Adobe products since 2010. The subscription model was the last straw. Sadly you kids didn't know how screwed you were getting.
@driesketels
@driesketels 4 месяца назад
hahaha. Do you have alternatives to premiere and photoshop that you would recommend by any coincidence?
@seanodanielsart
@seanodanielsart 4 месяца назад
@@driesketels CapCut and Procreate
@seanodanielsart
@seanodanielsart 4 месяца назад
@@driesketels CapCut and Procreate (iPad)
@dcarbs2979
@dcarbs2979 4 месяца назад
@@driesketels I'm begining to use Canva Affinity suite. Half the price of a year's Adobe for a one-off fee.
@Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel
@Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel 4 месяца назад
I first came across Adobe was with Photoshop 1.0. I bought every 2-3 suites as my needs needed all the way I managed to convince them to grandfather CS6 and not pay for subscription. But that is it. They will never have my money again. It’s so sad because I loved the interface and workflow. I have an old computer without updating so I can still use Illustrator and sometimes Photoshop.
@barbi111
@barbi111 4 месяца назад
It goes even earlier. They gave for free their software to education entities and the graphic designers just really had no time to learn another software, and this was the one they knew, so they sticked to it. And they will stay until Adobe's TOS is not bearable anymore. What a sly and evil software company.
@driesketels
@driesketels 4 месяца назад
Sounds like a famous strategy that many have been copy pasting over the years. First make it free and then let people pay for it
@fredericapanon207
@fredericapanon207 3 месяца назад
​@@driesketelsThat certainly applies to Duolingo for learning languages. Ever since they went public, they have been removing features from the free accounts.
@belac4979
@belac4979 4 месяца назад
I'm so happy right now with my past decision of just using open source and free softwares
@driesketels
@driesketels 4 месяца назад
Which one do you use?
@belac4979
@belac4979 4 месяца назад
​@@driesketels I use davinci resolve, hitfilm express, krita, blender, gimp, audacity, and inkscape.
@belac4979
@belac4979 4 месяца назад
It seems like RU-vid is filtering my answers. I wonder if they were marked as spam... 🤔
@kevinschmidt2210
@kevinschmidt2210 4 месяца назад
@@belac4979 There are a lot of names and websites the YT censor bots will delete automatically within just a few seconds.
@jonathanblazquez2754
@jonathanblazquez2754 4 месяца назад
@@driesketels For editing videos I think the more advanced there is is KDEnlive, another one I like is Olive, then there's openshot and shotcut, but they're too buggy in my opinion
@LordZontar
@LordZontar 4 месяца назад
I bailed out of Adobe several years ago. I was a long time Photoshop jockey but when they went to this bullshit subscription model for purchase I said fuck that. No way I was paying Danegeld for one of my most vital tools. I switched to GIMP and found it wasn't as hard to get used to as everybody was saying and I've been doing just fine with it ever since. Its Photoshop read/write interface allows me to open all my old files with no problem, so I really didn't lose that much in the transition.
@janelleill
@janelleill 4 месяца назад
It's a mess, isn't it? We are all stressed out, my friend
@driesketels
@driesketels 4 месяца назад
hahaha... I'm having a good time tbh. At least we don't live boring lives XD
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil 4 месяца назад
The reality is AI will be the new standard. But it won't be the valued art. Real artists, with or without AI assistance, will become even more valued. Traditional painters even more so. It's why shops like Etsy started in a world full of cheap China knockoff products. The photograph didn't kill art, Vermerr used a camera obscura to "paint" his master works. Nothing really changes with AI. A camera click can make an image much faster than typing in a prompt 100 times to get the right image. That said, companies using our content with or without our permission has been a long debated topic that usually gets brushed under the rug. It's good people are taking notice. But the problem isn't new.
@driesketels
@driesketels 4 месяца назад
Yeah agree. Music has been pirated for years. I think 'pirating music' is the sole reason why the internet got caught on in the first place but that is a totally different discussion.
@artnotate
@artnotate 4 месяца назад
Happy I switched to affinity suite years ago 😮‍💨
@davo-ju6er
@davo-ju6er 4 месяца назад
Louis Rossmans YT channel is a must watch for any privacy & right to repair stuffs. 👌
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil 4 месяца назад
It's actually a similar privacy agreement we agree to any time we upload an image to any website. We have to agree to it because the internet works on data our content generates. It's how web crawlers work to even find your website. AI is no different and uses the same laws. On the other hand, we left Adobe long ago and nobody should be using their product at this point. Once they were the golden standard, but they haven't innovated any new tools in over a decade.
@nicolasb.henry294
@nicolasb.henry294 4 месяца назад
It is time for us artist to create our own technology made for us in order not to be stolen.
@kevinschmidt2210
@kevinschmidt2210 4 месяца назад
Already done in the form of NFTs.
@driesketels
@driesketels 4 месяца назад
Those artists would slowly become corporate themselves.
@smailhamza7251
@smailhamza7251 4 месяца назад
In my opinion the solution is to have 2 PCs, one with a solid config on which we install the software for work only without connection which we format every year or 2 years depending on the need to install the new versions of software or the system always offline. The 2nd dedicated for connecting social networks and downloading resources only.
@driesketels
@driesketels 4 месяца назад
Sounds interesting but not sure what this exactly solves? I probably don't understand what you mean entirely.
@sadiemakesmesmile
@sadiemakesmesmile 4 месяца назад
@@driesketels when the software is offline mostly AI cant learn on it
@smailhamza7251
@smailhamza7251 4 месяца назад
@@driesketels For artists and all those who want to work in confidentiality and block cookies from operating systems or software, especially with the massive integration of AI which pumps everything to feed itself, nothing better than being equipped with 'an offline machine.
@kim258TV
@kim258TV 4 месяца назад
What I’ve learned over the past few months… AI doesn’t know crap about creating art, it steals art from all us using it to make derivatives, not original art that it creates from 0s and 1s… it’s all our art smashed together! That’s how it creates anything. If I copy or kinda copy someone else’s work it’s called copyright infringement, if a computer does it it’s called AI
@AddiRockART
@AddiRockART 4 месяца назад
Now I have to check the terms for Davinci Resolve (black magic design software), Final Cut Pro, and then the Affinity (by serif) software: designer (illustrator), photo (photoshop) and publisher (indesign)
@driesketels
@driesketels 4 месяца назад
you seem to be the guy that I need. I need a replacement for premiere and photoshop. Would that be Davinci Resolve and Photo?
@AddiRockART
@AddiRockART 4 месяца назад
I don’t see my replies posting I think they got filtered lol or my RU-vid app is acting up
@CarolinaCarolina-ph9mx
@CarolinaCarolina-ph9mx 4 месяца назад
@@AddiRockART Please try to post your findings again. My PC is dead, so I need to visit Costco and purchase a replacement, and I had decided that I wanted to put Photoshop on it because in addition to making prints, I wanted to try making designs for fabric, too. However, anything I create for fabric designs may need to be able to be worked on again in Photoshop by buyers if I am fortunate enough to make some design sales. For that reason, I may be better off sticking with Photoshop? Also, I think most of the software training I need is geared towards Photoshop as well. They really do have a pretty tight hold on the market. :/
@AddiRockART
@AddiRockART 4 месяца назад
@@CarolinaCarolina-ph9mx you just export from affinity photo as a psd and you can import your adobe brushes library. Affinity has a huge library on RU-vid for their software.
@lukrezialaval2406
@lukrezialaval2406 4 месяца назад
I subscribe to this comment section in hope of guidance from @AddiRockART @@CarolinaCarolina-ph9mx I heared Affinity Suite is very good for surface pattern design. And depending of what you need to do and if you have an iPad, Procrate is very affordable and good for the start (that's how I am doing it atm. But I step up my game with Affinity) Hope it helps. 👋
@davidportch8837
@davidportch8837 4 месяца назад
Well said Dries. It's scary... there's plenty of open source alternatives out there... don't forget... nobody must talk about Fight Club! ...
@mayusmayna
@mayusmayna 4 месяца назад
Hahahahah! Your videos have made me laugh a lot and are very informative too! Thank you for making these!
@driesketels
@driesketels 4 месяца назад
My pleasure! Next one tonight has some interesting stories
@brainrussell6811
@brainrussell6811 4 месяца назад
Thank you, Dries... I love making bread with your art while I'll wipe my ass. Get fucking Affinity!
@CupcakeCottage
@CupcakeCottage 4 месяца назад
Yep. They kept my $50 when I cancelled their subscription. I want nothing to do with that company. They showed me who they are.
@realityisfake
@realityisfake 4 месяца назад
“At present, people see fogs, not because there are fogs, but because poets and painters have taught them the mysterious loveliness of such effects. There may have been fogs for centuries in London. I dare say there were. But no one saw them, and so we do not know anything about them. They did not exist till art had invented them.” so writes Oscar Wilde in "the Decay of Lying"
@3dhotshot
@3dhotshot 4 месяца назад
do not cloud sync anything google is eating up the same data
@chuzzbot
@chuzzbot 4 месяца назад
I was suspicious and avoided Adobe right from the beginning. Letting all the pirating slide for so long showed they wanted an entrenched user base, before shutting it down and charging. Bait and bill was the first scam, this new scam is only shocking by its sheer audacity. Industries and individuals should be more careful to prevent monopoly standard software from dominating pipelines.
@kevinschmidt2210
@kevinschmidt2210 4 месяца назад
Here's how to strike back: List the best free open source software and apps that are similar to A-D'oh!-be products.
@lukrezialaval2406
@lukrezialaval2406 4 месяца назад
A-D'oh!-be 🤣 have to remember that.👍
@kevinschmidt2210
@kevinschmidt2210 4 месяца назад
@@lukrezialaval2406 Simpsons did it!
@evshipard4800
@evshipard4800 4 месяца назад
Truth!
@wa5657
@wa5657 4 месяца назад
pirate everything!! there are configs with annoying functions turned off, i'm sure there will be plenty of configs without ai connection
@kreepfaktory1133
@kreepfaktory1133 4 месяца назад
I hated Adobe CS6 and have an ancient laptop with CS5 on it that I use when I have to. I said nope their sub service when they rolled it out. Since then I've been focusing on traditional. Fuck AI and the people who support this piracy.
@MsCaleb79
@MsCaleb79 4 месяца назад
I got a 20 year old laptop with Photoshop and I can still yous it for free. But my newer computer is just crap I hope the whole digital world will collapse
@driesketels
@driesketels 4 месяца назад
hahahahaha XD the internet is a joke and it's the future at the same time
@kevinschmidt2210
@kevinschmidt2210 4 месяца назад
AI cannot think outside of the box. It can only reuse, in different combinations, whatever LLMs are in the box. Only those in the digital world, who can think outside of the box, will not collapse.
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 4 месяца назад
It's a bit extreme. You're probably still online after commenting. There are negatives anywhere in life.
@3dhotshot
@3dhotshot 4 месяца назад
Sandbox it and go offline problem solved
@dolphinboy9717
@dolphinboy9717 4 месяца назад
if i had 1/4 of your hair i'd put stalin to shame.
@shereenbarber
@shereenbarber 4 месяца назад
Thats bloody disgraceful!!! Stealing our art! Disgusting!
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