Why Indian Scout Rogue Is Not The Victory Octane | Indian Scout Rogue Review 

Long live the octane! When I got octane, I started stock piling parts... trying to be my own parts resource. I love that bike. Glad to see it get a 2nd and a half life with rogue. (Ima count in the ftr as I think thats what the pikes peak fan boys thought octane was originally gonna be)

I recently bought a scout rogue. Have been doing a lot, A LOT, of research with videos. This is the best and most descriptive info I have found. Excellent job on this video.

Talking about that rear suspension reminds me of that video you did way back when you were demoing a Scout Bobber and hit all those bumps lol good laugh at happy memories. Nice take & honest info on that Rogue! (Odd throttle issue..)

All the comparisons say to me "Polaris made the Indian Scout Rogue a worse version of the Victory Octane 5 years later". They should have slapped an Indian badge on the Octane and called it a day.

I love my Octane. The one thing I wish it had is a taller 6th gear. 4050 RMP at 70mph is a bit buzzy, so it's not for longer highway rides.

You have put so much effort into this video. And it shows. This helps Indian motorcycle as well as potential customers. Thank you.

Brandon: I enjoyed your review of the Scout Rogue. It sounds like Indians developed a version of Scout that keeps the cool, aggressive look of Scout Bobber but has made it more versatile for a wider variety of riding and road conditions. This bike may be exactly what new to Indian riders are looking for! (I own four Indians - 21’ Vintage, 19’ FTR-RR, 22’Chief Bobber DH Stage2, 21’ Scout Bobber 1300 (engine has been heavily modified.)

If I’m still riding and wanting to go the cruiser route in the future, I’ll definitely look at the rogue. I currently have the octane and love it. Like everyone else is saying, if you can find one to ride, take the opportunity. You won’t regret it at all.

I love the environment Indian created. Having a bunch of reviewers and creators go out for a nice day cruise. What an awesome opportunity!

I have a Victory Octaine. For the most part, as long as I'm not sitting still for very long, I love the bike. The heat issue is the one thing I hate about it. I'm glad you mentioned it.

Give us a Rogue S with the FTR mill to take on the SporsterS please 🙏

Damn, what a comprehensive video. I just ordered my Rogue and you confirmed that my decision was good. You just got a new subscriber.

Hey B, keep up the great work. You got to try the Octane and review it against the Rogue and Nighster, loved my Octane stage 1, I chopped my pegs and had an easy 34-35 degrees lean, 😎 a cool bike, gearing was very aggressive

Octanes ride much better. No such thing as too much travel. Challenger, Pursuit, Scout , all thanks to Victory ! Great vid ! Ride on my freind!

Dude. I love your content and your opinions. This was a great video as you started off in my home town and then through my second home town and then to my current hometown all on a brand of bike my uncle has been selling and working on for about 40 years at “the shop”. Keep doing what you’re doing. 👊🏻

Nicely done video. You kept the narrative flow smooth and interesting, and the music was not too much of an irritant :) Keep up the great work and ride safe.

I had an octane and it was a stupid amount of fun to ride! I would love one of these. Great info, thnx!

I really like the Rogue over the Bobber. Right out of the box it’s more comfortable. The seat and the bars put me in a good position. We all know with the right exhaust that bike will sound great.

Thanks for the videos- I actually purchased my rogue because of your reviews, almost pulled the trigger on a chief bobber, but I wanted something less cumbersome and more sporty, I’m am very happy with bike now 1 week in

pure banger my boy had to stop it half way though needed to get some popcorn for this banger...my quality is everything .

Great review! And nice trim on the mustache. I dig your videos and the real information you share!

Excellent job on this video. Have been looking at Indian scout. Getting older and have been riding HD FLHTC for 25 years love them. Looking for something lighter as l get older. Really enjoy this video. Very interesting.

Nice video bro, you’ve definitely done your research and you know Victory and Indian very well . I too am an Indian fan and own a Scout . They are great bikes , I personally own a 2017 Scout that I converted to a bobber (style wise) . I have no complaints other than the cheap stock suspension , that I immediately swapped out for the Fox adjustable shocks which made a huge difference. And one thing that made a monumental difference in everything about my Scout was a driver backrest pad. It made longer rides a lot more fun , plus when you throttle the Scout you won’t feel like your gonna possibly slide off the back ! (It locks you in)...

This video is the reason I bought a scout rogue! Ordered back in June and finally got it yesterday. Love it!

Such a well thought review and feedback. Really appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience.

Excellent honest review

Excellent review

Great video. I loved the videography and the editing!

Great video, Brandon, especially where you are digging the twisties and feeling confident! My Rogue should be arriving by late August. I'm thinking about the rear shock upgrade as I'm used to the 3 inches of travel that I have on my 2016 Scout that I'll be trading in. I prefer the blacked out engine and pipes as opposed to all the chrome on the 2016.

Rear cylinder deactivation really wouldn't help. The exhaust is RIGHT under your thigh, and it stays at 280+ degrees for 5+ minutes after the cylinder stops. They need to change the routing of the rear exhaust. Its the only bike I have ridden that melted the inner thigh of my Aerostitch suit. I have even tried putting a bigger heat shield on, and stuffing under the heat shield with additional thermal - it helps, but its not enough.

Very insightful video, thanks. My wife is currently toying with getting a Rogue and keen to get a test ride. The travel on the show could be an issue as our roads are full of pot holes and her back is fragile. I'm keen to ride the Chief DH but at 5'11" and 15 stone I need the forward controls and Super Chief bars. Keep the videos coming.

I got a Rogue a few weeks ago...1000 miles later and I absolutely love it. No problems to date. I upgraded the headlight and turn signals to the LEDs and I'm having the exhaust replaced with the Indian Stage 1 2-Into-1 Full Exhaust System on June 9th. My only complaint so far is fuel tank size could be larger, at 3.3 gallons you get roughly 120 miles out of a full tank. Other than that it's been all good so far.

detailed in depth feedback from a man who knows about his bikes!!!! well done 👍🏼 if you know, you know! Blockheads now in YOUR videos bucko ! #goals ⚡️😎

And it’s a great looking bike to boot! Great review. Lol…I was typing as watching and said “If I were younger”. You’re young enough to be my son. I’d ride one around the block still but at my age, I want the touring with all the wind protection and sofa-comfort.

Thanks for your honest thoughts ... I am in the middle of purchasing a Scout Rogue for my first road bike. Only had dirt bikes, cheers mate.

The rogue is the complete package. Great looks, a seat that holds you in place, a fairing that blocks the air and comfortable bars. The only downside is the short travel suspension. I have a Scout Twenty and once I adjusted the suspension and drop the rear tire psi slightly. It’s not that bad. I got good at avoiding potholes too.

I just ordered one. Added some accessories, now it's the waiting game.

No way you were here in Ventura. I spat my drink out at 4:15 when I saw Tony's. Pretty cool seeing the places I'm familiar with. I haven't been keeping up with watching your videos lately, but damn was I shocked to see the first video of yours I saw in a while of you riding in my backyard. Hope you enjoyed Ventura County. Great video. I've been riding for only a year and a half, so I never knew about Victory before they went defunct (or whatever the correct term is). I've only ever seen two of them in person. One was like a rolling piece of art with gracious curves and beautiful colors. The other is my neighbor's and looks like a piece of shit, but it's a shit with gracious curves at least. I initially wanted to get a Scout Bobber because I thought it was the unquestionably coolest bike that nothing could come close to (that's how I came across your channel). The Rogue is pretty rad too, but I still prefer the look of the Bobber more with that phat front wheel and lower stance. Between the two, I probably would get the Bobber on looks alone. I haven't test ridden either of them, though, so I don't know how I'd take to the ergonomics. That said, I don't think I would actually get either of them as I've been eyeing the FTR as my new unquestionably coolest bike that nothing could come close to.

Great video mate, I was wondering what’s the jacket your wearing ? Keep up the great work mate.

I got to test ride a Scout Rogue last weekend. I'm 6'0'' @ 200 lbs. I just feel too big on the Scout frame. It was fun for sure, but too small for me. The Cheif was a little better, but ergos still felt small. The new Pursuit was a beautiful ride. She is a HEAVY girl at 900+ lbs, but the ride is soooo smooth. I still love the Springfield Dark Horse. That bike is my goal.

I found that on my Roadmaster, it is the catalytic converter that gives off all the heat. I don't like rear cylinder deactivation. It caused me to drop it doing low speed drills.

Just brought all these thumbs ups for ya algorithms 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💪🙏

You ever thought of renting a victory octane from ridershare or something to do a comprehensive comparison. I know you had the bobber for some time so I'm sure you can think of many topics to bring up. If victory was still around I think the octane would've been the one to go for hands down. It had slightly more hp and torque and was even lighter too, making it quicker in the 0-60 between the two

Awesome vid bro 🤘😎

Great honest review, thanks... Really enjoyed your video.

Great and honest review. Looked fun and you had a blast! Always liked big front wheel on cruisers. No question though that the rouge isn't the octane. So you lost some lean angle and gained some horsepower! Either way its a fun bike! Hasta luego!

Very informative video Brandon. Thanks so much.

So I run the Octane front and rear on my Indian scout as well as the octane rear pulley with mini apes. Have been running this for about 2 1/2 years now and the bike feels amazing. I'm actually glad Indian decided to combine the two and grow the Scout a little but I can't say I'm not disappointed and the Rogue seems kind of half arsed. There are so many issues they could have addressed, like the suspension issues, brakes and that throttle but it appears the changes are only cosmetic.

I remember when the size of tires and wheels were something figured out by engineers..I see a larger diameter slimmer tire on one and a fat tire on a smaller diameter rim on another. Which one handles better, or doesn't it make any difference?

Harley didn’t make the Bronx. I hope Indian makes a naked bike similar to it using the scout motor. I’d buy one.

Victory octane is such a real gem, the power delivery and the handling is almost out of a sport bike. Amazing!

Huge fan of the Scout. Just picked up a ‘19 Metallic Jade model.

i dont get why they (all bike manufactures) make these bikes with so little of rear suspension travel...do they hate other peoples butts/spines? i think the idea of the rear cylinder cutoff is a neat but i have heard other people have issues. i know they all have their issues but Indians kind of remind me of what people used to say about old Harleys lol. i do hope they get them sorted because i do want them to be competitive so we get better bikes from all sources. good vid

So here I am. Having a slow morning. Then your video pops up. Thanks for starting off my day with another good video.

Okay okay cylinder deactivation would be great BUT if it had the option to toggle it on and off at the riders preference. I personally hate any vehicle that has that. My girlfriends Malibu does that and I kinda hate it

Great review of the Rouge

Damn dude You look good on that bike. (I know, that sounds weird) Great breakdown 🔥

You would have thought by now they would have sorted the suspension issues out, good review👍

I'm wondering if an aftermarket shock could be found that would give it more than 2" of travel. It really should have at least 3", shouldn't it? Once you sit on it, do you lose 1 of those 2 inches? I would like a 5-gallon tank, a fuel gauge, and what else? A more comfortable seat I suppose but that can be found somewhere. Oh yeah, a 4-speed gearbox, and easy pull clutch and front brake levers. If a motor will pull a gear, why would you want to shift all the time?

Lol! I already know how you feel about the Scout rear suspension. Still watching but good stuff so far!

I would love to see a Scout Sport with real mid controls and a different rear end where you can run a larger rear wheel such as 17 or 18" and more suspension travel. The Scout are limited in customization where Sportsters are not. Stock the Indian is the better bike but for customization the Harley is the better bike !

That photographer riding backwards with a camera. I never thought about that. He has a lot of trust in the guy operating the bike.

Thanks for this vid, very informative. Also I definitely hope they do not add cylinder de-activation to the scout. Or as an option at least. Seems to me like just another engineering feature prone to break down at some point.

This was a great review.

That ride looked amazing!

This is a great video and an equally as great video title.

I loved the Scout Bobber when it came out, then I test rode one. I got some back problems, too, and I can't imagine riding for more than 30 minutes on the bobber. Also, it's soooo fast and begs you to lean it over and then there go those foot pegs ruining all my fun. It was a very bitter-sweet test ride.

Decisions I don't understand - Why didn't they use the Scout rear subframe? That extra inch of travel seems like it would have eliminated (or significantly improved) one of the biggest complaints about this bike. What I'd really like to see is a Scout+ rogue with a +1 suspension. I'm only 5'9 (on a good day) with a 29" inseam and I'd happily trade an inch of seat height to get 4.5 inches of travel on that rear suspension. [EDIT: the more I think about it, the more I'm sure the right way to go is to add the rogue changes to a Scout.]

its definitely ok its like the OCtane..ppl loved that bike. great vid Brandon

Great video dude.

One of my chapter members has a 2021 scout that the tranny crapped out on him coming back from Thunder Beach. Indian said it will be a month or more to fix. I never had trouble with my 2015. For me, if I get another Indian it will be a Chief or larger bike. My wife wants another scout.

Speaking it into existence. I will one day own the rogue

Brandon I want to commend you for your honest assessment on the Scout Rogue. I am a little concerned about the throttle issue you had on a bike with just 50 miles on it. Did the Indian Representatives give any indication what the problem was and had any of the riders in your group heard of any similar issues? Thank you for your response.

The biggest difference between the rogue and the octane is the seat!! The rogue seat is pretty comfy The octane seat is like sitting on a 4x4. It cuts into the back of your legs

As always great video. Good perspective . Nice take on improvements over redesign. Look at the Harley Sportster, improvements made for many years before redesign. One of the most modifiable bike's out there. I think Indian has a good plan and I hope they stick with it. Always room for improvement, even for an old rider like myself. Thanks again. Be safe 🍻

That color, blue really good on it

looks great, but the exhaust is way too long for my style. Needs to be shorter, or a better after market option

I defecate not Brandon, that's another outstanding video. Living in the tropics of S. Fla, not having that rear cylinder deactivation is a deal killer for me. Assuming they get that straightened out someday, I would love to get a Rogue. Let me ask you something: Which would be easier, to change out the front wheel on a scout to a "Rogue sized" front tire, or to change out the rear suspension so I have three inches of travel? I'd surely appreciate your opinion on that.

Hey Brandon, great video and great videos! Question: I am stuck between purchasing a 23 Scout Rogue and a 23 Sport Chief, b/c it is the outgoing year the pricing is very competitive for both. I am an experienced rider and like both, I do not do long trips often, mostly cruise with friends, and bar hop. IYO which would you go with?

I put the bobber 20 bars on my bobber, I love those bars

Thanks brother what a great video very informative

Bought one and love it

Losing the throttle on a ride? This is why I don't like electronics. With a cable, you can always find a way to make it work to get home, even if you have to pull it by one hand somehow. I've had to do it. I hope there is a way to do that. I assume there is a throttle body that would have some kind of cable, right? Use a shoelace or something, right?

I spec'd one out and was around 15K.... a lot cheaper than a touring bike and I think it would be a great learner bike. The question is, am I too big for it? 350+lbs

I like it l just don’t like short or chopped fenders because in rain it’s gonna throw stuff all up and against the radiator

When Victory shut down it's shop, Indian who operates under overseer Polaris was trying to get Victory technology, but Victory directorate refused to release mechanical tech to Indian as it was too advanced as they put it and don't want Indian strife under their logo using Victory's blue printing. So Indian shares decent amount of parts with victory. But when people think Indian Scout is basically Victory Octane, they are extremely off. They share general frame design and some essentials like wiring harness, starter, solenoids and relays, but mechanically Octane is a power house in comparison to Scout and their motors have nothing in common other than both wrapped in aluminum blocks. So if you want Victory Octane especially rare Stage 2 factory. I am the proud owner of one. Do not buy scout but go find actual Octane and buy it. You'll have 1000+ cc super sport bike in full aluminum cruiser frame. Fact, my Octane weights in less by dozen pounds than was my 2008 CBR 1000 RR.

Thanks for sharing dude! Can you tell your story about wrecking your Indian a couple years ago and your rehab process?

I love that bike. That will be my next ride for sure.

Got a Octane. Looking at the Rogue as a lateral replacement. Would have to get the longer(3inch travel) piggyback shocks.

I put a leather shield over the rear cylinder

I have fully decided to take thw plunge, my big debate Scout Bobber , or the Rouge? And do I do pre owned or take the plunge on a new 1 with like 6 ot 7k down credit is AAA status as well. Gun to your head what you suggest? Love the content

I just would love a Scout with a FTR Engine

I think cylinder deactivation is probably one of the worst idea I’ve ever heard for this bike A lot of people by the scout for the sound why would you want to idle like a dirtbike

Polaris chose the" Indian " for brand recognition because of their Harley Derangement issues... Victory was it's own Awesome self! I'll always prefer the Victory ✌. Indian is Indian it'll be okay regardless... Harley's starting to get their shit together though, they kinda need to get over their inflated view of themselves...

Can you fit mid controls on the Rogue for better ground clearance? I’m 5’8 and not a fan of forwards.

I think a wider rear tire would make a better ride.

What part of California did you guys drive through?

cool review gonna find an octane to ride now?

I was disappointed with this bike at Daytona Bike week, bike felt cheap and the seat was small and uncomfortable, the bullet fairing didn't seem to match the lines of the bike, but this is just my observation.

If you look at the difference between the Rogue and the Octane rear shocks, the rear suspension shock angle is quite dramatic. It's just dumb to put inadequate suspension travel, coupled with a ridiculous flat-angle rear shocks on any bike, especially on a cruiser where the rider's weight is primarily on the seat. Come on Indian.