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Why is "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free" offensive? 

Henry Abramson
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A discussion of the slogan, what people think it means, and why many feel it is offensive.
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@cinnaminson0653
@cinnaminson0653 5 месяцев назад
How about, alternatively, the idea of "from the river to the sea" simply means a truly free federal system where all people within Israel and the Palestinian areas are granted citizenship? A true power sharing arrangement as seen in Northern Ireland. That seems humane and fair to me.
@thesoules7714
@thesoules7714 Месяц назад
thank you
@urbansocrates
@urbansocrates 6 месяцев назад
The first half of that slogan is Likud's position, except that they claim all of the land for Israel. Hamas and Likud are a classic example of group polarization. But the long history of Arab aggression against Israel, and the inability of both sides to reach a workable compromise are additional factors. You don't have to side with Hamas or be anti Semitic to oppose Kahanism and aggressive, lawless settlement .
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
And your point?
@bb1111116
@bb1111116 6 месяцев назад
@urbansocrates wrote; *”The first half of that slogan… Hamas and Likud are a classic example of group polarization. But the long history of Arab aggression against Israel, and the inability of both sides to reach a workable compromise are additional factors.”* * This theory that the “Arab aggression” “are additional factors” and not connected to the literal meaning of the slogan ”From the River to the Sea,” is not accurate. * The day after the state of Israel’s existence, four of the neighboring Arab nations tried to destroy it by attacking Israel. The goal of the Muslim nations was to create an Islamic nation “from the river to the sea”. This was not a gradual process of polarization on the Islamic side. That was the Muslim goal from day one. It remains the maximum goal of Muslims in the region. Eliminating the “lawless settlement” does not remove the motives of those who believe in the literal meaning of the slogan *”From the River to the Sea,”* Gaza was given autonomy by Israel (except for control of airspace and trade) which required the uprooting of all Israeli settlements there. So even with Likud in power in the 2000s, there was no Israeli state “from the river to the sea” except for the desire of extremists. It will not happen in terms of actual Israeli policy. However, the goal of Hamas, which is in power in the Gaza Strip, is literally the elimination of Israel. Meaning one Muslim state “from the river to the sea”. It is correct that Israel has become more polarized. That happened after the long Camp David negotiations which ended by 2000 and 2001 in failure. Israel now reflects the common political stalemates in the Middle-east region such as with Syria, with the Kurds in Syria, Turkey, Iraq and Iran, with Armenia and Azerbaijan as well as with Yemen.
@khatlestad
@khatlestad 6 месяцев назад
The history of Arab aggression against Jews is shorter and less consistent than Christian aggression.
@solarpunkutopian
@solarpunkutopian 5 месяцев назад
​​@@HenryAbramsonPhD The point is there seems to be a double standard when it comes to ethnic cleansing. It's apparently fine and dandy as long as it's to advance Eretz Yisrael like extremist settlers are doing beyond 1967 borders under a security umbrella provided by successive Israeli governments.
@sebastiannickel4377
@sebastiannickel4377 5 месяцев назад
@@solarpunkutopian Jews moving into Judea and Samaria is not ethnic cleansing. It doesn't remove anyone from Judea and Samaria. Expelling all those Jews from Judea and Samaria, as the Palestinian Authority demands, would be ethnic cleansing. A separate question from whether expanding Jewish settlements in Judea and Samaria constitutes ethnic cleansing is whether it is wise to do so in light of the perennial tensions and of how it complicates prospects of eventually carving out sensible territory for a peaceful Palestinian state. That question is pretty complicated and I have no confident views on it. The only time when the Israeli government unequivocally engaged in ethnic cleansing was in 2005, when IDF soldiers forcibly expelled every single Jew from the Gaza strip, including by digging up all the dead Jews from their graves, leaving the Gaza 100% judenrein. Given how that turned out, you can understand that not many Israelis are keen to repeat this particular experiment in the West Bank (where opinion polls indicate that Hamas would be elected into power if an election were held tomorrow).
@zdzislawmeglicki2262
@zdzislawmeglicki2262 6 месяцев назад
The very fact that Gen-X and Millennials are so ignorant of geography and history is shocking. When I was a kid, admittedly a long time ago, you wouldn't be accepted by a university without demonstrable knowledge of history and geography that was scrupulously tested by various exams, similar to British O- and A-levels.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Sad but true.
@noneofyourbusiness2539
@noneofyourbusiness2539 6 месяцев назад
Gen X-ers are 50 years old, give or take a few years in either direction. These aren't Gen X-ers (or even Millennials) we're talking about here. We're talking 18-24 year olds.
@Komenya0905
@Komenya0905 6 месяцев назад
I'm scratching my head trying to think of exactly what they are taught in school these days. How to make a perfect TikTok video? The ignorance is acutely shocking and some of them attend the "elite" institutions of higher learning.
@zdzislawmeglicki2262
@zdzislawmeglicki2262 6 месяцев назад
@@noneofyourbusiness2539 Right! Perhaps we should be talking about Gen-Z here. Gen-X and Millennials are their parents and teachers. The ladies representing Harvard and U of Pennsylvania at the recent Congressional hearing would have been, at a glance, Gen-X. Incidentally, U of Pennsylvania has lost a $100 million grant over their president's comments at the hearing.
@yenakim9064
@yenakim9064 3 месяца назад
At least they know the UK promised to give the land to jews. Isn’t that true? Will you ignore this historical truth? It seems the UK, instead of your god, is more related to the promise on the land. And then you guys invaded Palestinian land and violate their human-right. That’s what it’s going on.
@amandawuerz943
@amandawuerz943 6 месяцев назад
I’m glad to be mother of young kids who teaches them history, geography, and values. They are aware of their Jewish ancestry, and it’s my responsibility to raise them to search for truth instead of following some ignorant crews.
@marioques
@marioques 6 месяцев назад
Well, I hope you teach your kids what the Principle of Charity of Charitable Interpretation is. It means to listen to what people say with the premise that they are well meaning. If I chant "From the River to The Sea and millions of people have been doing, what we mean is a land in which people will experience Freedom instead of the forced occupation of the land called Israel. 99.99% of those who chant that phrase don't mean bad things to Jews. We are not Antisemitic or Racists and I'm not Muslim, I'm a Costa Rican in Canada. Don't let them learn to get offended by slogans like this man pretends. It's always a choice to get offended but in this case many (not all) Jews are very attached to being offended and victimized by words. You want to learn history of the Middle East? Look for Norman Finkelstein, he's a humble noble jew that doesn't play the victim card.
@shelvikartaatmaja3307
@shelvikartaatmaja3307 5 месяцев назад
@marioques. It’s wrong not to teach “know the difference “ . so your statement will only create confusion.
@JLinker613
@JLinker613 6 месяцев назад
Hello! Slight correction. The Country of Jordan is named after the River, not Vice-Versa. Jordan in its current borders was initially called Transjordan (i.e., the other side of the Jordan - aka the East bank). When Transjordan took control of the West Bank (ergo, Cisjordan or "this side of the Jordan") the Country declared itself to be a unified Jordan.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thanks
@hannelorestettner6965
@hannelorestettner6965 6 месяцев назад
😊😅😢
@Dragonfly657
@Dragonfly657 6 месяцев назад
The West Bank was created as a buffer zone.
@646oleg
@646oleg 6 месяцев назад
does he look like student under 30 , only product of modern education doesn't know that
@georgeparsons5
@georgeparsons5 5 месяцев назад
It was also originally part of the British mandate of Palestine until 1921, creating what was then called the Trans-Jordan Partition. Which adds to the current discourse.
@mikeklein9923
@mikeklein9923 6 месяцев назад
Did we actually teach basic geography in any core course?
@louisegordon5169
@louisegordon5169 5 месяцев назад
Sadly as many have seen throughout the ages, it takes wars for people to learn geography.
@Michael-el
@Michael-el 6 месяцев назад
Professor Abramson busting out with Arabic pronunciation. I had no idea! I’ve been watching his Jewish History Lab and other videos for a long time.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
With a heavy Canadian accent, eh?
@GeorgeOchodo
@GeorgeOchodo 6 месяцев назад
@@HenryAbramsonPhD from your both Arabic n Jewish descriptions of the river n the sea, a distant neutral observer like me quickly concludes this is a case of siblings suffering from uncontrolled/unmanaged sibling rivalry.
@pcolt4
@pcolt4 6 месяцев назад
You mean "butchering" it is more like it. His H's are way off, he pronounces the H of "baHr" as a KH, he butchers the name of the language and culture (how surprising!), and makes a complete mess of the word "miyaah" ("waters") as if it's pronounced Maya. In sum, his competency in Arabic pronunciation is commensurate with his actual knowledge (but not his ego).
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 5 месяцев назад
@@pcolt4 Unfortunately Duolingo doesn't offer an app for ego
@pcolt4
@pcolt4 5 месяцев назад
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Then they're in luck, since you're clearly available to develop the ego app for them as a certifiable expert in egotism. You actually missed the opportunity to assert that the butchered pronunciation was an intentional thematic echo of the butchery of tens of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza, as the unbroken continuation of the dispossession and butchery and gaslighting of millions of Palestinians dating back to the very formation of the Haganah, Irgun and Stern Gang -- the Founding Fathers of Middle East Terrorism, aka the Zionists.
@Logia1978
@Logia1978 6 месяцев назад
Its offensive only for colonizers and pro apartheid.... And that slogan does not mean destroying Jews, but destroying a state. You have no problem with Israel being a Jewish state.
@Logia1978
@Logia1978 6 месяцев назад
@@moshdee456 Enough of lies...
@LifeIsThePrayer
@LifeIsThePrayer 6 месяцев назад
This is basic information that more people should be made aware of. I mean it’s simple geography.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Absolutely
@nothanks8354
@nothanks8354 6 месяцев назад
I used to be young doing protests and half the idiots just there for the social aspect
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Likely
@selfwitness
@selfwitness 6 месяцев назад
Your videos (not just in this series) are extremely informative and eye-opening. I hope that your videos help to dissolve the ignorance that is used by nefarious forces to justify the atrocities. I’m not Jewish but I have watched your other videos on Jewish history and have grown in my understanding of the world from them. Thank your for all of your efforts.. I pray for your loved ones in Israel.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Amen. And than you for your kind words.
@MomErwee-jh6sm
@MomErwee-jh6sm 5 месяцев назад
Thank you very enlighting and informative.
@MomErwee-jh6sm
@MomErwee-jh6sm 5 месяцев назад
God bless Israel❤
@AaronOnTheTrails
@AaronOnTheTrails 6 месяцев назад
I realize that all bigotry is based in ignorance but still not being able to locate which river and which sea is troubling.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Yup
@CarlNipmuc
@CarlNipmuc 3 месяца назад
I think you're wrong. As a geography buff, I know most people don't even know the geography of the town they live in, never mind land features half way around the world. I noticed the one thing missing from this video is the Palestinians and the protestors themselves who use the slogan...let's hear it from their own mouths. what THEY mean when they say...they would end this silly attempt to do an end-around on the 1st amendment to the constitution.
@amybear2941
@amybear2941 Месяц назад
What's troubling is the fact you failed Geography !
@shardanette1
@shardanette1 6 месяцев назад
I was hoping you would get into the history of the phrase. For instance, is it true that the Likud Party formerly used the phrase? If so, what did they mean by it? Did others use it, too?
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
A version of this phrase has been used by groups on the Israeli right.
@shardanette1
@shardanette1 6 месяцев назад
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Then I would have liked to hear some of that history as well. For instance were they using it before the Palestinians, who then took that phrase and threw it back at them, or vice versa. That has some significance to the present usage and meaning then.
@bjornlindqvist8305
@bjornlindqvist8305 6 месяцев назад
It was coined by revisionist Zionists during the Mandate of Palestine era 1917-1948. They demanded that the area between the river and the sea be exclusively Jewish and not divided between the Jews and Arabs.
@nnazem
@nnazem 6 месяцев назад
The quote from the charter is: The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty. Also, revionist zionism has followers who believe Israel should extend into what is current day Jordan, as that made up parts of the original Judean kingdom.
@soniccz100
@soniccz100 6 месяцев назад
Likud has in its charter from the river to the sea and Israelis repeat this. Why isn’t this brought up the same way?
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Because they are not chanting it in the streets of New York and London.
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 6 месяцев назад
read the original plo charter read the 49 armistice agreement likud charter is based on reality the fakestinian chant is based on delusion and the want to genocide the jewish people
@juliannaruffini
@juliannaruffini 6 месяцев назад
​@@HenryAbramsonPhDhaha what a weak argument. They are not chanting the slogan they realize it with settlements over the last 50 years.
@getout2012
@getout2012 4 месяца назад
Israelis repeat this where? I'm Israeli and haven't heard this being "repeated"
@juliannaruffini
@juliannaruffini 4 месяца назад
Netanjayu in front of the UN for example and in his statements all the time.@@getout2012
@johnkingsley9525
@johnkingsley9525 6 месяцев назад
You are correct in that the younger generation lack knowledge in basic geography. I am ashamed and sad to say that my daughter graduated high school and was unable to tell me the name of the country that borders the U.S. on the south. Time for the schools to get back to the basics and leave the social agenda to parents. By the way I enjoy your videos very informative and with a very pleasant delivery- thank you!
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thanks! Buy her an Atlas? If they still print them.
@grahamfloyd3451
@grahamfloyd3451 6 месяцев назад
Any recommendations on how to express solidarity with the Palestinian people without being ignorant of basic geography or antisemitic? In this current conflict I posit that the majority of westerners supporting Palestine are merely appalled by the amount of civilian death that Israel is causing, and not trying to support violence by anyone.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Good question. I would suggest simply stating it clearly: wishing for the peace and prosperity of the Palestinians, living in peace with Israel. Two-state, one-state, whatever.
@processandbeing
@processandbeing 6 месяцев назад
My Arab friends in the Middle East (an admittedly small sample) tend to mean this same thing - being appalled at the loss of life (though also, probably unconsciously, influenced by anti-Israeli news networks). Mostly, they want a future of potential prosperity and safety for those in Gaza, which is something we can all agree on.
@johnathandoe7079
@johnathandoe7079 6 месяцев назад
My father believes that the attacks on Israeli citizens by Hamas, and the killing of their civilians is a legitimate act because all Israeli citizens must go through military service and are legitimate. No amount of argument can change that, because his social circle all believe that, and he has lived all his 80 something years believing that. Man did we have loud heated arguments. Honestly I stopped supporting either side. Opting instead to convince whoever I am talking to that the otherside deserves their sympathy too.
@beans4853
@beans4853 6 месяцев назад
2 points to ponder, a: the amount if civilian death has not been verified by any independent source besides Hamas for whom the higher the number, the better it is for their pr. B: the deaths are not caused by Isreal, it is caused by the war Hamas started and by their practices of mixing with civilians. Bonus! Please look into the civilian deaths in any other war to compare numbers and see how the amount of civilians are not any higher. America itself has flattened cities with way more civilians in previous wars and no one criticized them. It's only when Isreal defends itself that people care about civilians. It is startlingly clear if you take an unbiased view on world history, though im not sure you're willing to do that
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 6 месяцев назад
the first protests happened before israel responded you have no idea how many civilians have been killed, because all of the numbers come from hamas calling for a cease fire while hamas still exists clearly means you and your pals support a terrorist regime
@pbreedu
@pbreedu 6 месяцев назад
Shows a real failure of our educational system.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Sad but true
@bnibni123
@bnibni123 6 месяцев назад
Just annoying so many did not know what it means in terms of its geographical context. In regards to the possible interpretations, it appreciated your descriptions of the possible interpretations.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thank you. I am encouraged by the fact that polling indicates people stop using the phrase when they understand its basic meaning.
@juliannaruffini
@juliannaruffini 6 месяцев назад
this slogan is the official doctrine of the israeli government. This is ok why?
@Jo_Em909
@Jo_Em909 6 месяцев назад
I'm an Australian with Jewish ancestry interested in learning. Thank you for your videos Dr Abramson. I see the study re the age difference in perspectives playing out here somewhat too. I had an understanding of why the chant is offensive, but didn't know there were actually other overt versions. Great to have this information for conversations - thank you 😊
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for this thoughtful comment!
@joelgaulton3565
@joelgaulton3565 6 месяцев назад
Antisemitism is pretty rampant right now among young people. I'm a Jew and I've head so much of it in the community and it work it's quite disturbing.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Yes
@pcolt4
@pcolt4 6 месяцев назад
No, what's rampant right now is intentionally conflating anti-Zionism with antisemitism. Don't get it twisted.
@richardpage7323
@richardpage7323 6 месяцев назад
​@HenryAbramsonPhD we have each other. you are not alone. it is as shocking as it is disturbing, but you are not alone.
@user-te4of2fq5d
@user-te4of2fq5d 6 месяцев назад
❗I'm always offended by people who want to kill me. I'm funny that way.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Well put.
@user-te4of2fq5d
@user-te4of2fq5d 6 месяцев назад
@@HenryAbramsonPhD ✡️ Rak chazak amats eretz Israel. Thank you rebbe.
@shahidahmed1766
@shahidahmed1766 6 месяцев назад
Who are those people in every scope of language prefer the word "genocide" or "genocidal" - what s obnoxious mind set! World's populace love peace makers but not war mongers. O Allah! Please free peoples from apartheid and oppressions & makes your world live worthy!
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Peace.
@user-gc1ty8db2k
@user-gc1ty8db2k 6 месяцев назад
I am, sometimes, asked to sign a petition from either side of the political arena. I always ask one question: "What are you asking me to sign?" It is rare that they really know. One young girl gave me a answer: "I don't now, but those that sent me know."
@milamihaylova-blagoeva9909
@milamihaylova-blagoeva9909 6 месяцев назад
Shalom and Thank You! Is there any historical record of the name Palestine being derived in accordance with Pallas Athena?
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Not to my knowledge.
@milamihaylova-blagoeva9909
@milamihaylova-blagoeva9909 6 месяцев назад
Thank You, dear Henry Abramson! And Happy Hanukkah! @@HenryAbramsonPhD
@erikkison
@erikkison 6 месяцев назад
It's equivalent of me saying "From west coast to east coast America will be Islam free. Free America"... Students should be held accountable for their hate speech.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Agreed
@bjornlindqvist8305
@bjornlindqvist8305 6 месяцев назад
A better analogy would be if they had shouted "From west coast to east coast blacks will be free". Would you still have complained?
@klf33
@klf33 6 месяцев назад
Fully agree with you as an Arab Pro-Palestinian person I find it naive at best, and I fully understand why this is offensive to Jewish populations, the biggest problem we have is the image of 'Free Palestine" is almost Utopic and essentially not practical given the current state of all Arab nations (which collectively fail to protect minorities), That criticism though should not be used to suppress the opposition to the occupation, one thing I did learn in life, Victims are not always angels, sometimes they are full of anger and hate themselves, that does not stop me from supporting them until they are no longer oppressed! It is tough to talk to Palestinians about being politically correct (which they should be) while they are being slaughtered daily 😔😔I am having those difficult conversations with friends and family, and it is as hard as trying to convince Israelis to cease fire because of the human suffering, the polarization is scary
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for this very thoughtful comment. I wish there were more voices like yours in the public square.
@whereitsfrom
@whereitsfrom 6 месяцев назад
As an Israeli I also sympathize with the pain and suffering of any human.. Despite all the propaganda about Israel and IDF, I don’t think you’ll find a soldier in our midst that enjoys the suffering of civilians. In the case of Gaza, you have to understand, the potential for freedom and prosperity were amazing. The leaders received massive amounts of funding that could have been used to make Gaza into a haven, heaven for tourists and wealth for all its citizens. What they did instead is build tunnel systems and armed bases under schools, hospitals and mosques. I urge you to research and find that yes these people are oppressed but it’s by their own leaders who mostly are not even in Gaza but in other countries, living high with all the money they stole from the poor families in Gaza. Lookup the fatwa council and what they wrote about Hamas, that Muslims shouldn’t even pray for them. They are the oppressors. Many Muslims live in Israel in peace and would openly tell you they’d rather live under Jewish government than sharia government, or even worst Hamas gov.
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 6 месяцев назад
which land is occupied?
@nohisocitutampoc2789
@nohisocitutampoc2789 6 месяцев назад
​@@thewkovacs316Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan and parts of Iran. And China (in this case, and it's the only one, against Muslims),
@cristiano7ronaldoTHEGOAT
@cristiano7ronaldoTHEGOAT 6 месяцев назад
IDF want to eliminate Hamas and its infrastructures in Gaza so that it can never do terror attacks again. The problem with pro-Palestine folks like you is that you only seem to criticize Israel but not Hamas who caused this war. They use their own people as human shields. Ceasefire only benefits Hamas. Once Hamas regroup, they will do terror attacks again. You are all just want to bully the Jewish state.
@arthurmark2013
@arthurmark2013 6 месяцев назад
Quick question: were the students from Harvard or UPenn?
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Funny
@l.sweden
@l.sweden 4 месяца назад
I am glad you made this video 💝🙏 So sorry about people who use this slogan to create chaos and trouble.
@SimplyApollo
@SimplyApollo 4 месяца назад
What program did you use to do the subtitles?
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 4 месяца назад
CapCut
@SimplyApollo
@SimplyApollo 4 месяца назад
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Thanks! You are the first lecturer on RU-vid that I have found using subtitles and I really like it. Helps me focus and makes the video more entertaining.
@anthonyjat1964
@anthonyjat1964 6 месяцев назад
I think alot of it is from the generation of people aged 18-24 being emotionally immature and not realizing the complexities of geopolitics and conflicts. People in this demofraphic are still children and they have a lot of growing up to do
@louisegordon5169
@louisegordon5169 5 месяцев назад
Easy to put down a younger generation. I don't think that their opinions come from immaturity. I think they use other media different than the mainstream media and they are influenced by some common sense of humanity
@anthonyjat1964
@anthonyjat1964 5 месяцев назад
@@louisegordon5169 I'm 22
@soltantio
@soltantio 6 месяцев назад
One thing that's disturbing right at the outset is how these young people in particular are out there angrily chanting slogans when they don't even know the most basic things about the underlying conflict. If you think that they are talking about the Nile River and the Atlantic ocean, then maybe you should take a break and spend some time studying basic geography before you run around angrily shouting opinions
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Agreed
@yehuditchannen5447
@yehuditchannen5447 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for the clarity!
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
You are so welcome!
@ZoFromOh
@ZoFromOh 3 дня назад
The majority of the younger generation grew up with much more available information from all sides than previous generations who did not grow up in the digital age.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD День назад
Information, yes. But much of it fragmentary, distorted, and false. The challenge is to filter out the signal from the noise.
@An_Economist_Plays
@An_Economist_Plays 6 месяцев назад
As always, many thanks for sharing your thoughts and learning. I myself believe that true freedom emerges from nonviolent effort - otherwise, we can be bound in a cycle of violence. There is a myth of redemptive violence that resonates among people seeking a supposed swift and decisive conclusion, but I have yet to see violence truly attain such things.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for this comment.
@leialee6820
@leialee6820 5 месяцев назад
You need to explain this to the Metropolitan Police in London, England who think it is ok & fine & allow huge marches with people shouting this with Palestian flags. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧
@lebojay
@lebojay Месяц назад
The police should stop people from marching and shouting?
@davidtyler3116
@davidtyler3116 6 месяцев назад
Thank you Dr. Abramson. It is truly a difficult time for Jews.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
I hope you found the video useful!
@abdulsameekanth821
@abdulsameekanth821 6 месяцев назад
lets say that mexico comes and takes over half of the US and for 70 years it occupies that land, and then people say from atlantic to pacific united states will be free is that problematic. In that case would US is just demanding their land back "problematic".
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
An analogy
@bodysuit1134
@bodysuit1134 6 месяцев назад
I hope you show the same offense with the Lakud party that originally made up the "river to sea.." banner that was then taken by Palestinians.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Here’s a key difference: Likud is one of many political parties in the democratic state of Israel.
@zoeherdman670
@zoeherdman670 6 месяцев назад
I'm not Jewish, but very much appreciate the wisdom in your talks.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thank you very much!
@ryandstailey
@ryandstailey 6 месяцев назад
My Facebook page needed a reasonable take on this topic. Thank you.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful
@TheMalka770
@TheMalka770 5 месяцев назад
Im getting a glimmer of hope, Dr proffessor Henry Abramson w your enlightening young students.thanks we need your help
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 5 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@spacedoctor9334
@spacedoctor9334 5 месяцев назад
That was brilliant, the best discussion/analysis that I have heard about the river to the sea slogan.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 5 месяцев назад
Thank you
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 5 месяцев назад
Thank you
@ninorpereira
@ninorpereira 6 месяцев назад
Dr. Abramson, I appreciate you commenting on the individual comments in a measured way. It's how a discussion should be had IMHO, by trying to understand what the other side is saying, in words and in feelings and yes, even in prejudices and misconceptions. From what I can see, neither Israelis nor Palestinians seem to understand, or rather, almost never express that they understand, how deeply felt their principal traumas are. Rarely do you hear a Palestinian trace back Zionism to antisemitism in Europe (especially to the east) and the pogroms in the Russian empire (as you do in some of your videos), or Israelis acknowledge that Palestinians got displaced by violence around 1948 and their related frustrations (although Israeli historians do). At some point, I hope, both groups will be able to hear each other and then, finally, come to some peaceful agreement. Let us pray.....
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Agreed
@Komenya0905
@Komenya0905 6 месяцев назад
At the same time people who talk about 1948 fail to mention the mass expulsions of Jews from the Muslim lands that happened at the same time and scattered pogroms against them that accompanied it.
@louisegordon5169
@louisegordon5169 5 месяцев назад
Bassem Youssef in his talk with Piers Morgan did precisely that. He spoke of the migration of the Jewish people throughout the centuries. Listen to it .(it is on you tube) He is a cardiologist AND stand up comedienne, friend of John Stewart who brilliantly goes through many issues involved in this conflict.
6 месяцев назад
Thank you for posting this. I certainly learned even more (as always from your videos)
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for the kind words
@euphemiariley4523
@euphemiariley4523 3 месяца назад
Thank you for the explanation. This is what I need to hear.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 3 месяца назад
You are most welcome.
@naseemsadiq9090
@naseemsadiq9090 6 месяцев назад
Apart from that, thank you for explaining your point-of-view
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Hope you found it useful.
@robertmcdonnell3117
@robertmcdonnell3117 6 месяцев назад
Great video as always.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate that
@legrand3138
@legrand3138 6 месяцев назад
I believe it’s as offensive as calling West Bank Judaea & Samaria. Funny enough is a survey conducted in Israel, Palestinians said that this slogan means one state for everyone with equal rights, and Israelis said one Israeli state from river to sea means Palestinians to be displaced. Isn’t that ironic ?
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
I’d like to see that survey. But I don’t think it’s comparable to using the Biblical terms for two parts of the West Bank.
@zev3143
@zev3143 6 месяцев назад
I'd be surprised if the Palestinians would agree to be citizens with equal rights in the state that's already there: Israel. The Arabs of East Jerusalem were offered citizenship, and I believe most refused it.
@legrand3138
@legrand3138 6 месяцев назад
@@HenryAbramsonPhD I apologize that I couldn’t find the link for that poll, I read it few years ago and it was conducted in west bank by a Palestinian group. The question we always face by Palestinians is where we can have a state with the current map full with settlements & if it is gonna be one state are we gonna get full rights & where should the refugees from 48 line go. No one has answers for such questions which makes the slogan flare when things turn ugly like nowadays when both sides are furious. I don’t personally believe that there is a chance for two states solution left as there is no land left for a Palestinian state anyways so the future is becoming vague. Regarding Judea & Samaria even with its biblical source, it just represents the right wing of Israel ideologically from the Palestinian view which is a call for annexation of land and either kick Palestinians out or let them live in apartheid system. You can see that the prospective of both groups are different and fuelled with fear from the other. Even Palestinian flag is considered by Israelis as unrecognized state of Israel and considered by Palestinians as symbol of their struggle for freedom. So we have to step a little bit to the back and recognize the two sides of the story in order to move forward.
@juliannaruffini
@juliannaruffini 6 месяцев назад
this man is really ridiculous. Israel pursues and realizes the idea of a great Israel for decades thats not a problem but people chanting it.
@legrand3138
@legrand3138 6 месяцев назад
@@HenryAbramsonPhD So I found the poll I mentioned discussed in an article Though RU-vid doesn’t allow to share links and your email in not in you bio
@11UncleBooker22
@11UncleBooker22 6 месяцев назад
Thank you, Dr. Abramson.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
You are most welcome
@Anonymous------
@Anonymous------ 5 месяцев назад
If someone said "From sea to shining sea, black slaves will be free.", what did he mean?
@marieandersson3290
@marieandersson3290 5 месяцев назад
The most astonishing is that they don't understand that their "palestine" IS free from the river to the see. Everyone can see it, because God has put Israel between the river and the see, which probably no one has missed, and by that their chanting is fulfilled, the "palestines" are by their own mouth really freed from that place. People do not understand that their "prayers" can be fulfilled without that they recognizes it. So, their own chanting actually helps the fulfillment of God's Word by the establishment of Israel on that place. You shall be careful what you allows go out of your mouth, because "man shall be judged by every word" says the Lord.
@colchiandragon7396
@colchiandragon7396 5 месяцев назад
Well done! I enjoy all your videos.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 5 месяцев назад
Thank you very much
@Pituqat
@Pituqat 6 месяцев назад
Didn't the original Likud party platform from 1977 state ""between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty." ? How is that any different? Any less threatening?
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
I imagine it would not be well received by Palestinians
@7.2
@7.2 6 месяцев назад
The jewish people are always educating people and ahead of our times. Yes, it's very offensive! Thank you!
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thank you
@m.a.p.g.
@m.a.p.g. 6 месяцев назад
You’re a breath of neutral fresh air. Thank you for these videos.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate that!
@PC-lu3zf
@PC-lu3zf 6 месяцев назад
Thank you Dr Abramson for a very good and informative video. What happened on 7th October was genocide really upset us we are Jews.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Glad you found it useful.
@AntiQris
@AntiQris 6 месяцев назад
Serious question here but does the pipe where a yamica? So sorry I’m sure that isn’t spelt right but I mean it with a serious respectful way.
@zev3143
@zev3143 6 месяцев назад
Do you mean, does the pope wear a yarmulke? I read that popes and, I believe, other clerics, are following the tradition of the Jewish priests to wear a head covering in the presence of G-d as a sign of humility.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
I think so.
@AntiQris
@AntiQris 5 месяцев назад
@@HenryAbramsonPhD thank you I appreciate you!
@AntiQris
@AntiQris 5 месяцев назад
@@zev3143 sorry for the spell I have never read the word. I’d be curious though of any deeper meanings there and not as any insult whatsoever just that all the cards are not on the table for pawns to view ya know?
@AntiQris
@AntiQris 5 месяцев назад
@@zev3143 the Basque languages have an ancient understanding of the letter Y that is “part” of the problem in seeing the histories correctly I think. Rabbit hole the word Anglican and you’ll find An-glicc-an rubs real close with Algonquin and even Alchon tribal origins. The cone heads that had their capstones rejected. When you view a pyramid, which is the true “cornerstone”? It’s the cap.
@Corwin256
@Corwin256 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I'd never heard the slogan you discussed in this video, but I share your optimism that discussing geography and other nuances of the situation can help those lacking relevant knowledge gain a better appreciation of the danger involved.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thanks
@princesskaitlinhazelwood4703
@princesskaitlinhazelwood4703 6 месяцев назад
Well American has never been good at teaching geography. I have to admit, when I first heard the slogan that it was just a rhyme. And did not point to any actual river or sea. But it is hopeful when they learn what the slogan is saying, hard change their mind.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Agreed
@TheNotehead
@TheNotehead 6 месяцев назад
An excellent and thorough explanation. I hope that I can be as patient and articulate about this when the need to explain it inevitably arises. Earlier today a throng of people, including neighbors of mine, were chanting this as they marched through my town. Some of them, without a doubt, knew exactly what the expression implies, although I suspect (and hope) that many did not. A question for Dr. Abramson or any other scholars out there: what books on the history of Israel are considered best in terms of completeness, objectivity, and (dare I ask) readability? I don't have a schedule that allows me to take a course, but I do want to have a much more complete knowledge of this subject.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the kind words. See my 3-part series for some book recommendations
@josephomolo8407
@josephomolo8407 6 месяцев назад
The singers of river to the sea should read the Bible book of Exodus. Pharaoh had similar thoughts - from Nile to Mediterranean sea. It was his people who eventually ended in Red sea; remember whatever you wish upon Israel will come to you. Esther 6 shows a man called Hamann ended that way
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Hope you enjoyed the video
@marcusblockson2900
@marcusblockson2900 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for this video!
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
You are most welcome
@RG-pj1tt
@RG-pj1tt 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for this information, it is invaluable education for everyone.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 5 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful
@daveh893
@daveh893 4 месяца назад
Excellent commentary on this phrase. I really think these protesters would do well be staying off the streets and taking a course in geography.
@geertdecoster5301
@geertdecoster5301 6 месяцев назад
Good posting yet again. It's very much like the why does the Spanish national anthem has no words question. If one doesn't know the history nor are Spanish oneself there's a definite disavantage. As a foreigner I don't need the words and I can claim that I like the anthem just because of its musical qualities. However, accepting that I'm a human being and not a robot I need to also add that I'm a royalist and have had a Roman Catholic upbringing with some military and rural conservative family members thrown in as well. It's thus always a two way street, and never black or white
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Glad you found it useful
@Luv7Bella
@Luv7Bella 3 месяца назад
From the North to the South, the East and the West Humans shall be free!!!
@H2_O2
@H2_O2 5 месяцев назад
I totally agree with the slogan, but not before adding a few things: From the River to the Sea: 1) Palestine will be free from Hamas. 2) There will be peace. 3) Arabs and Israelis will live together peacefully in their respective states. Arabs in Palestine and Israel, Israelis in Israel and Palestine.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 5 месяцев назад
A nicer version
@bushwackenbubba3988
@bushwackenbubba3988 6 месяцев назад
THE QUESTION IS WHO ARE THE REAL CRIMINALS?
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Kidnappers would be my answer
@aballer2809
@aballer2809 6 месяцев назад
Happy Hanukkah Henry 🕎
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thanks you too
@tshwenyegomakhaza1263
@tshwenyegomakhaza1263 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for your explanatory videos
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
You are welcome!
@RichardManns
@RichardManns 6 месяцев назад
Small point, but the River Jordan was not named after the country. The country was named Transjordan originally, the other side being Cisjordan.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Ok
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
And you think Hamas lifted it from Likud?
@diandenmark
@diandenmark 6 месяцев назад
AWESOME!!!! Thank you!!!!
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
You're welcome!
@hilleyify
@hilleyify 6 месяцев назад
You do incredible work in general but you’ve exceptional during this war! Thank you 🙏🏻
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thank you. It's a challenging time.
@hilleyify
@hilleyify 6 месяцев назад
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Absolutely
@rexgigout1472
@rexgigout1472 6 месяцев назад
Well-stated. Thanks!
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@joemosely9383
@joemosely9383 6 месяцев назад
This Guy is so Logical & Reasonable. I like this Guy.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thanks
@doman362
@doman362 Месяц назад
The map which had been used by Prime Minster Netanyahu, in his recent U.N speech, was showing an Israel from "River to the See", too. How about that? Was that offensive? Or would it be offensive merely if Arabs use this phrase? Let's not have a double standard. Let's there be peace between Israel and Palestine. Amen.
@Retarmy1
@Retarmy1 6 месяцев назад
I wish every person would watch this video, and get some type of basic type of understanding what is going on.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thank you
@amadosegundomansilladelval9026
@amadosegundomansilladelval9026 6 месяцев назад
Again clear AND interesting...real knowledge surmounts all, even nonsense...yes, .Palestine really must be freed from Hamas...
@ramblingrootscamp
@ramblingrootscamp 6 месяцев назад
The ruling Likud party has used this exact same slogan in regards to the West bank hasnt it?
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Yes, there is a right wing element in Israeli democracy.
@juliannaruffini
@juliannaruffini 6 месяцев назад
​@@HenryAbramsonPhDnot only this government all israeli governments refuses an Independent state of palestine. The plan was always a great Israel
@The_obstacle_is_the_way
@The_obstacle_is_the_way 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for investing the time to create your videos. I believe it's crucial to comprehend the context before forming a decision or expressing agreement or disagreement with the presented content. I am baffled at the younger generation ignorance. I wonder what my generation did or did not do to have created it.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
I hope you find them helpful.
@stephenfisher3721
@stephenfisher3721 6 месяцев назад
Realize that many young people don't want to be confused by facts. They like clever slogans and wish to be in the "in" crowd. They don't even have the patience to watch a normal length video.
@stephenfisher3721
@stephenfisher3721 6 месяцев назад
Technology has no doubt played a great role. When I went to college, you had to look at real books and journals from the library to research a topic. The paper had to be typed using a typewriter. No Internet, no cell phones, no social media.
@stephenfisher3721
@stephenfisher3721 6 месяцев назад
When today's college students are running the world, what will happen? Will it lead to another dark ages? Will democracies willingly allow the world to be taken over by Hamas-type groups?
@jessicamessica2271
@jessicamessica2271 5 месяцев назад
As a person and former educator, I am really concerned with how common it is for young people to take up political causes and slogans without doing significant research on the topic beforehand. This is not to put the blame solely on teachers or students but as a whole culture, I wish america would put more emphasis on research
@jeffreyschweitzer8289
@jeffreyschweitzer8289 6 месяцев назад
Just reinforces the terrible job American public education has done in teaching basic knowledge of geography and history….which has the additional effect of suggesting that these subjects are unimportant
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Sadly true
@beans4853
@beans4853 6 месяцев назад
Its completely intentional. Uneducated people are easier to control, as we see so clearly. You say the byline and everyone parrots it, not knowing what it even means
@guitarsandbongos
@guitarsandbongos 6 месяцев назад
Fantastic video.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thank you very much
@emilianosintarias7337
@emilianosintarias7337 2 месяца назад
I am a bit disappointed in the biased language of this video, I apologize for saying. It's good to rep your own opinion, of course, but not if in a way that frames it as "reality" or "understanding", without mentioning or ruling out other possible interpretations. For example , and with respect, I noticed that a popular viewpoint on this planet about Oct 7th is just not acknowledged by you. This view is that while it happened through Hamas, it or something like it would've happened through whatever organization existed in Gaza eventually - even if they weren't Islamist, antisemitic or intentionally targeting non IDF personnel- and futher, that armed attacks of some kind are a legal right of the annexed Palestinians. In other words, hamas are the only game in town in order for desperate young men growing up stateless, to enact military resistance to Israel, and from the view of many, Israel has not been willing to leave post 1967 land and settle the conflict according to UN resolutions. Further, this view sees Israel and the IDF as also a "t-rrorist" group in certain respects, given its past operations such as in 2018, and its blockade of food, "starvation plus" diet, holding onto territory acquired in war, periodic civilans massacres, etc. Living in a Buddhist majority country where antisemitism is a foreign concept, and nobody even questions the right of Israel to exist, this is a pretty common view here - but i see it all over world media as well. The idea that we all know and agree on what Oct 7th is really about seems a bit too much, after all there were also attacks by the Palestinians when many of their forces were secular leftists , and there have also been civilian violent uprisings, and unarmed protests as well. Best regards from Asia. Let's hope there is a future for both peoples.
@tonyholmes962
@tonyholmes962 5 месяцев назад
Free and equal citizens? That's ok isn't it? No matter whether one or two states I don't care. Justice is the only path to lasting peace.
@averynunley8872
@averynunley8872 6 месяцев назад
Can you do a lecture on Slonim Hasidic dynasty history?
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Maybe in the future. I am working on other topics now.
@jacobedward2401
@jacobedward2401 6 месяцев назад
Ok so I understood the slogan correctly when I first heard it, and I still support it. Israel is an illegitimate state, Palestinian jews are under no threat from a future democratic Palestine, settlers should leave.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
“Palestinian Jews are under no threat.” October 7
@jacobedward2401
@jacobedward2401 6 месяцев назад
​@@HenryAbramsonPhD"from a future Democratic Palestine"
@TheresaGraf
@TheresaGraf 6 месяцев назад
@@HenryAbramsonPhD You don't talk about "mowing the lawn", the continual carpet bombing of Gaza. You don't speak of October 6,5,4,3,2,1 or about 70 years of occupation and oppression of native Palestinians by EUROPEAN Jews with less than 10% levantine DNA. Stop with your fakery now!
@lebojay
@lebojay Месяц назад
It’s a de facto legitimate state because it’s recognized as such. How it came about may be questionable, but so are the origin stories of many states that we accept as legitimate.
@nohisocitutampoc2789
@nohisocitutampoc2789 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for your explanation. I'm from Barcelona and I'm feel offended as well. But I'm sure that's it will be a naive fashion like the keffie (the foulard-scarf-hat etc.).
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Glad you found it useful.
@nohisocitutampoc2789
@nohisocitutampoc2789 6 месяцев назад
@@HenryAbramsonPhD your explanations, at least all I watch so far, has been more than useful. They are a little space (here is not the right space, I guess) of debate and discussion. And just for that's I'm feeling not glad, almost blessed. Thanks sir Abramson and the people who have answered in a polite and constructive way. (However, I would like to put a question to you, in reference an interview to another rabbi (a man really prepared) but I don't want to disturb you and because my eyes decline and for me it's quite difficult to find the information). In too short summary and in an excellent speech, he defends issues differents that professor Abramson (and the rest of the people who discuss here in a comfortable way). Thanks and sorry for the long comment.
@spankflaps1365
@spankflaps1365 6 месяцев назад
Americans who sing this nursery rhyme, should consider if their own country should be given back to the British, or the natives?
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
True (although the Israelis are also natives)
@GregorySherrill-le4fd
@GregorySherrill-le4fd 8 дней назад
the terms peace and freedom are not commonly agreed upon.
@amadeepl9643
@amadeepl9643 6 месяцев назад
Straight to the point no wishy washy and yet so well articulated I mean this is golden on a rethorical level as much as content wise, thank you very much professor Henry
@easy_sleko-sz4bq
@easy_sleko-sz4bq 5 месяцев назад
Israel's crimes against Palestine have been very real since the arrival of Askhenazi Jewish refugees in palestina in 1946 who were Zionists, land confiscation and the murder of Palestinian figures for defending. Palestine.
@venice9438
@venice9438 6 месяцев назад
Great video, thank you
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
You are welcome
@sazenycbx
@sazenycbx 6 месяцев назад
So what's the difference when jews call for a "JEWISH STATE?" With a nation state law that measures how JEWISH you are? Tired of false academic sophistry.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
It’s not “from the river to the sea, no one but those like me.” Israel is 20% non-Jewish. Tired of stupid comments.
@xxno_namesxx
@xxno_namesxx 4 дня назад
From the river to the sea, 🇵🇸 will be free. Calling to free a country and give them equal rights doesn’t mean we hate Jews. Enough with the sensitivity. My Jewish friend also says that, does that mean she’s anti-semetic?
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 3 дня назад
There’s a different term for that. It’s also not nice.
@JasonPengo
@JasonPengo 6 месяцев назад
As you point out, Israel allows Muslim Arabs to be citizens of its country. And when polled, those Israeli Arabs prefer living in Israel to moving to any of Israel's neighbors. Conversely though, it should be pointed out that Jews are NOT ALLOWED to live in Gaza. End of story. So under the premise that "From the River to the sea, Palestine will be free". From the Palestinian point of view freedom clearly means freedom from Jews and Israelis. The expression is clearly an existential threat to Jews and Israelis. It's more than offensive, It's a deep existential threat.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
I hear you.
@beans4853
@beans4853 6 месяцев назад
​@@HenryAbramsonPhDyou mentioned that in this video, didn't you? Maybe I just interpreted it that way...
@alma6911
@alma6911 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for clarifying this slogan.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Glad you found it helpful.
@alma6911
@alma6911 6 месяцев назад
Am Yisrael Chai Forever!🇮🇱🇮🇱
@davidprice9792
@davidprice9792 6 месяцев назад
I can proudly say I did not support the from the river to the sea. I have seen Christians saying this didn’t know what was even going on. Which to me was even worse because they were going Hamas so much power and blindly following along
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Thank you.
@marcinbenedek789
@marcinbenedek789 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for clear communication, I would however diverge as to dichotomy you propose, between being pro Hamas or supporting Israel, we don't need those divisions. In fact the popularity of the slogan "From river" stems from it's vagueness. It can mean many things and for sure means many things to different people. It will mean something different to US audience, which especially cheriches the idea of freedom. Worth noting that Likud speaks in it's charter about "From river to sea Israel sovereignty". In fact, Likud's slogan is much more precise, specifies how many states would be in this area. In contrast, free Palestine can be an area of multiple states or one, it just speaks about freedom of the people in those lands, but freedom can be provided equally to population of multiple states within an area. I am sure campus kids in USA mean Palestine will be free through US perspective of a democracy loving country, and simply wish equal rights for all people of the region within one or two stetes. The panic surrounding this slogan is absolutely unjustified, and as I clarified, concern should be directed equally at Likud's charter. Thank you and very best.
@RobinHerzig
@RobinHerzig 6 месяцев назад
See the Likud party platform for more on Eretz Israel (from the river to the sea) 👀
@gilleek2
@gilleek2 6 месяцев назад
To be fair most Americans need a geography lesson for lands outside of the US.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
@HenryAbramsonPhD 6 месяцев назад
Agreed
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