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Why is Murder Wrong? 

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Perhaps due to plain ignorance or emotional bias, many religious folks think and spout divine command theory as if it hadn’t been soundly defeated thousands of years ago. The funny result is that theists are often operating under the misapprehension that nonbelievers cannot account for morality, when in actuality, it’s exactly the reverse.
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Комментарии : 11 тыс.   
@marcellomercuri5619
@marcellomercuri5619 8 лет назад
If sin isn't allowed in heaven, how did Satan fall from heaven?
@oscarpine7145
@oscarpine7145 8 лет назад
because God made do it
@vaporstrider3143
@vaporstrider3143 8 лет назад
Because Satan sinned
@sutanpuu
@sutanpuu 8 лет назад
actually, satan created his own reality. which maybe sounds great at 1st. But think about it...if you create your own reality which is not co-existable with other humans would that make you happy? I am not saying one should or should not believe in God, rather creating your own reality 4 all eternity with out not much else, how would that make one feel?
@kodyritt1681
@kodyritt1681 8 лет назад
But sin isn't in heaven, how could Satan sin?
@vaporstrider3143
@vaporstrider3143 8 лет назад
+Nope Nopenopenope That's why Satan got kicked out because he sinned
@chael9323
@chael9323 5 лет назад
I've done this argument to a priest once, he called me satanist
@nomore6258
@nomore6258 5 лет назад
Well, I wonder why? You basically claimed that murder is okay.
@nomore6258
@nomore6258 5 лет назад
@Gengonglike Arbukle it would probably be better if American Christians were more like Christians from Malawi. If you say God doesn't exist there, They will literally laugh you out of the village.
@nomore6258
@nomore6258 5 лет назад
@Gengonglike Arbukle God is real. Do you even know where Malawi is? Delusional cult. Sounds like atheists. They aren't harassing them. They are literally laugh at the idea that God doesn't exist. They will laugh and laugh until the people leave. And of someone finding your opinion funny is harassment, then you should go back to your safe space, and get off the internet.
@nomore6258
@nomore6258 5 лет назад
@Gengonglike Arbukle . The Laws of Physics. They aren't trying to do that. They are laughing. They are laugh because the idea of God not existing is humorous to them, not because it will annoy the atheists.
@literallyglados
@literallyglados 5 лет назад
@@nomore6258 saying "the laws of physics" doesn't mean anything to this argument
@benjaminmarks8765
@benjaminmarks8765 5 лет назад
"I brought you into this world and I can take you out" God and also my mom, 2017, colorized
@awesomethegreatamazing2651
@awesomethegreatamazing2651 4 года назад
Just say “but I didn’t ask to be born” and they’ll be even more fussed
@GrimSleepy
@GrimSleepy 4 года назад
Better yet, be like the clowns these days that actually waste everyone's time to try and bring a suit against your parents for not asking your permission to be conceived.
@riveratrackrunner
@riveratrackrunner 4 года назад
My dad used to tell me that.. But eventually you get stronger than parents. We are not invincible
@GrimSleepy
@GrimSleepy 4 года назад
@@riveratrackrunner My father never used that one... However, when my sister threatened to call the cops on him, he handed her the phone saying, "I'll be sure to earn my time and give them reason to put me in chains!" Lol... I think she was in trouble for skipping school to hang out with boys, I can't remember, I know he wasn't thrilled whatever it was.
@riveratrackrunner
@riveratrackrunner 4 года назад
@@GrimSleepy i just became a father a year ago. That is something od say to my daughter too.
@GogiRegion
@GogiRegion 5 лет назад
I think that DarkMatter created that god scene with the unicorn toys just to have an excuse to animate a knight fighting against a pink unicorn on a rainbow… and that’s awesome.
@literallyglados
@literallyglados 5 лет назад
The horse's tail is super janky tho
@TS-qq7vr
@TS-qq7vr 5 лет назад
My Little Pony, the ultimate little girl toys.
@lightseekerdarkdevourer7635
@lightseekerdarkdevourer7635 5 лет назад
Proof god is a brony
@ThisisFerrariKhan
@ThisisFerrariKhan 5 лет назад
I thought they were sneaking in a Joan of Arc joke for the MGTOW fans watching 😂🤷🏾‍♂️
@bettyschneider5268
@bettyschneider5268 4 года назад
Red Dead Eye.... Sorry wrong answer! 😲 ya if God 👼😇👼 doesn't exist? Well how about your evil god! 😈👿👹👺 yes the devil thinks he is God! But with a small g... Lol 😆 even the devil 👹 knows God exist! That's why him & his minions😈👿👹👺 try to turn people away from God! But Hell 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 is waiting for them! And to whoever wants to go. Lots of people running 💃🚶🏃🏃 to Hell that's why they go to evil Hollywood🎭 and sell 📝 their souls 👻 for money 💰 & fame 👑.. Omg 😲all the evil stuff they do behind closed doors 🚪 but now they aren't even hidden it much any more! 🔺🔺🔺 ya thanks for your time! Have a good Day! God 👼😇👼 loves 💝 you! Amen! 💒⛪⛪⛪📖📝📜🌈🐑🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏 ✝ ✝ ✝
@n9nex19
@n9nex19 6 лет назад
God: *_Floods earth killing everyone_* God: That's what you guys get for killing
@Lugo428
@Lugo428 5 лет назад
Praze gawd!
@nomore6258
@nomore6258 5 лет назад
Not just murder, but rape, theft, beastiality, pedophilia, and many more.
@hyrulecitizen7988
@hyrulecitizen7988 5 лет назад
Arf.
@greendash8765
@greendash8765 5 лет назад
God is the creator of everyone god decide who pases away anyway humans don’t decide when the time has come . Murder of a human by a human takes away the opportunity of that person to repent and trust in Jesus and takes the gift of salvation that god gave and stops gods plan for that person from happening and god did not chose that to happen and he or she may not go to heaven.
@dzagoproductions3450
@dzagoproductions3450 5 лет назад
@@nomore6258 weee still do those things. And if God is all powerful why doesn't he just remove all sins.
@Nine28457
@Nine28457 8 лет назад
I shared this video on my Facebook page. A distant Christian family member who had just joined facebook watched it and had a meltdown. She was so overwhelmed by the fact that she had no rebuttal to the ideas shown in the video that she attacked me relentlessly. I was called a devil worshipping witch who was trying to break down the family. She told me that she'd be happy to see me burn. This is what happens to Christians when they first come across ideas like these. Atheism turns into a witch hunt, and family would rather disown their members than have their beliefs challenged.
@dan339dan
@dan339dan 8 лет назад
Unlike you, my mom believes in Buddhas, she has no problem with me and my Dad being atheists and my dad often tells her not to be so superstitious. I've never known the situations of atheists and Christians in USA until I watched Jaclyn Glenn's video.
@Nine28457
@Nine28457 8 лет назад
Yes, it can be quite intense for atheists in the US. In the spirit of fairness, I should also include that most of my family are Christian, and the rest have treated me with kindness. Occasionally you'll come across someone like this. Usually it's someone who has never had their beliefs challenged.
@letsgo_123
@letsgo_123 8 лет назад
thats so fucked up damn
@lainhikaru5657
@lainhikaru5657 8 лет назад
Imagine if you're litterally a witch. Us pagans suffer a lot of the "burn the witch" thing. I follow this channel cuz atheists are kinda cool people to hang with,they may not believe but they also never forced me atheism down my throat neither.
@staceyj3667
@staceyj3667 8 лет назад
Wow sorry that happened.
@romanic7468
@romanic7468 5 лет назад
God: Believe in me. *Gives no evidence of his existence*
@Earoist
@Earoist 5 лет назад
@@nerdienew911 You're right, I believe in Enlil now.
@ihx7
@ihx7 5 лет назад
not even a sign
@Earoist
@Earoist 5 лет назад
@@nerdienew911 Isn't it self-evident who tf he is?
@Earoist
@Earoist 5 лет назад
@@nerdienew911 You exist, as does the rest of the universe. Is that not evidence enough that Enlil is the creator?
@Earoist
@Earoist 5 лет назад
@@nerdienew911 HERETIC! HOW CAN YOU DENY WHAT IS SO BLATANTLY OBVIOUS! DO YOU NOT SEE THE SUNSET AT THE END OF A DAY, OR RISE AT THE BEGINNING?! HOW DARE YOU SHOW SUCH DISRESPECT TO ONE OF THE GREAT CREATORS; ENLIL, WHO CREATED THE VERY AIR YOU BREATHE! AND YOU REPAY HIM BY USING THAT AIR TO SPEW SUCH VILE SCORN! YOU WILL RUE YOUR BLASPHEMOUS INSOLENCE ON THE PROMISED DAY!
@ikaros1169
@ikaros1169 4 года назад
Religion is like a kickstarter game it promises joy and happiness but you know for a fact that the game is flawed
@ninjatortise8958
@ninjatortise8958 3 года назад
I mean, just because somebody dies doesn't automatically they go to heaven though. If you went out of your way to kill an atheist and he never went out of his way to repent than he goes to hell. And, even if you say your Christian but don't go out of your way to truly, sincerely, believe in god you go to hell. And, even if you do truly believe God you could still go to hell because God has final say on whether or not you go to heaven or hell, if he decides your good doesn't out way your bad you go to hell. Also, your kind of missing the point the person who died have had friends and family they left behind on earth and they have to wait an entire lifetime to see them again. Also, the person who died wont have the opportunity to experience all the sights, sounds, feelings and sensations that you can only really experience being alive. Killing them would rob them of that.
@Vagorim
@Vagorim 2 года назад
I mean think about it, what game doesn’t have flaws?
@saltcrab6419
@saltcrab6419 2 года назад
Religion is like Yiik.
@kerrym7089
@kerrym7089 6 лет назад
"Well i was thinking - " "That's probably not a good idea." Christian logic 101
@irllcd13
@irllcd13 6 лет назад
Prof K I had a christian lady tell me I was too smart for my own good and asked too many questions. According to her the only book I really need to read is the bible. I weep for the human race. So much wasted potential.
@PokeMageTech
@PokeMageTech 5 лет назад
irllcd13 Calm yourself. I shan’t waste mine.
@PokeMageTech
@PokeMageTech 5 лет назад
irllcd13 Also, a good philosophy is “question everything (unless it will cause you harm)”
@charthezombiehound8952
@charthezombiehound8952 5 лет назад
me and my brother were debating religion and he said: "you think too much" I was like: "AHAHAHAHAHAH"
@UrbanClimber
@UrbanClimber 5 лет назад
@Christ is king a near death experience is pretty similar to a experience called ego death induced trough substances like DMT LSD.... The dmt Tree is actually your holy tree in the bible. Yes there is something that rules our lifes its called reality, if this reality is called jesus or god or hans wurst is pretty unimportant.
@adamlaurie5590
@adamlaurie5590 6 лет назад
Heaven legit sounds like some sort of dystopian horror mind control society...
@kingbugs3558
@kingbugs3558 6 лет назад
That's basically religion in general.
@adamlaurie5590
@adamlaurie5590 6 лет назад
Yeah, its a way to control the masses...
@saturatedartist1241
@saturatedartist1241 5 лет назад
So literally the plot of 1984?
@gabbar51ngh
@gabbar51ngh 5 лет назад
Lol. In Islam they forbid alcohol, Pork,etc. But In heaven they promise you rivers of wine and 72 of big breasted virgin girls. "Yeah do this job for me and after death I will give you this in afterlife" Can't believe people believe such things
@theoffchannel2054
@theoffchannel2054 5 лет назад
Heaven is a communist society with mind control.
@nourah5033
@nourah5033 3 года назад
I use to be a Muslim and I asked my mom once if I could listen to music in Heaven and she said that there is no sin in heaven and that meant The desire wouldn’t be there anymore And I just thought So I’m not going to really be Me in heaven that doesn’t sound very appealing.
@TtttTt-ub5xb
@TtttTt-ub5xb 2 года назад
😊
@ravysaini127
@ravysaini127 2 года назад
Well theres no games and nothing but clouds and air so heaven would suck
@ragsrare3771
@ragsrare3771 2 года назад
Along with sharing your husbands with hoor, and if you want a loyal husband that she wouldn’t share, allah will change our personality and likings to suit him.
@nourah5033
@nourah5033 2 года назад
Rags Rare oh gross 🤢 I’d rather stay dead
@Rudxain
@Rudxain 2 года назад
WTF, why is music a sin?
@bryanna_renaee
@bryanna_renaee 4 года назад
Lmaooo so the whole premise of creating humanity was for us not to be robots, so we can in turn choose to be robots in the afterlife by believing in gods sacrifice. I cannot 😂😂😂
@okaberintarou5020
@okaberintarou5020 3 года назад
Our ancestors were scaredy bitches who created God for any or every explanation.
@ELIAB424
@ELIAB424 3 года назад
THANK GOD I AM A ATHEIST 😂🤣
@sekiwannoookami5711
@sekiwannoookami5711 2 года назад
Even though it's Hella dumb alot of the time it makes you less depressed about life.
@sekiwannoookami5711
@sekiwannoookami5711 2 года назад
The main reason religion exists in the first place. Then developed to control the masses.
@ziggxy3738
@ziggxy3738 2 года назад
@@sekiwannoookami5711 which is why so many people believe it. not for me tho
@monkeytime9851
@monkeytime9851 8 лет назад
"if people are not themselves in heaven, then the only true afterlife is in hell" ... that's quotable.
@LogueDogg
@LogueDogg 8 лет назад
Todd what is "yourself" to you? By chance are you referring to that which is our human brains neurons firing around based on our experience? So the man who spent 20 years in prison comes out the new and not improved most up to date version of himself? That's what he'll lose if he went to heaven? I tell you this bro, heaven is similar to having everything you ever wanted, only it is the dissolving of wanting anything at all. It has the same effect without the fear of loss or weathering and aging of all your wants.
@LogueDogg
@LogueDogg 8 лет назад
+Jessica Corlichsdcghj It's the best theory I can come up with given everything I've experienced in this life. When doing a puzzle, some puzzle pieces won't fit, some need to be forced but some are the correct pieces. Only the correct piece will leave you doubtless of its placement. I keep giving people advice for these configurings I've calculated but I keep forgetting that I built from the ground up to know how the highest floor sits. I try explaining the highest floor to another and it falls and smashes without its foundation.
@someperson5506
@someperson5506 8 лет назад
+Logan Armstrong If a strong patriot in the US didn't hate Bin Laden, he wouldn't be himself. Our hatred,pride, lust, jealously, and all our sins and shortcomings are just as much a part of us as the things we do well.
@LogueDogg
@LogueDogg 8 лет назад
+some person if that's who you believe you truly are, then you must believe we are all monsters and there's no point investigating or trying to convince you otherwise. But it's this prejudging everything which brings grief. Worry is what this brings yes self identification with the mind and body brings hardship.
@warwickthekingmaker7281
@warwickthekingmaker7281 6 лет назад
If all emotions are erased in heaven (the concept of wanting is dissolved, you no longer have any feelings towards other people) what is left? It is a bad computer inside a human body that has no purpose without its emotions. I mean, is there anything you would ever do that is not at its core based on emotions? Why would you ever do anything if you can´t feel anything?
@pwnUgood
@pwnUgood 7 лет назад
If the only reason you are moral is because you are afraid of going to hell, then you aren't moral, really.
@sgorgardr227
@sgorgardr227 6 лет назад
No. Some people need that. What about me? I hate people, God took it away. I don't have problem slaughtering ANYBODY for no reason. God makes me different. Also it is not moral only, it is perfect, righteous and holly. Are you righteous? I doubt it.
@sgorgardr227
@sgorgardr227 6 лет назад
éric rémy Well, i consider myself pretty much VERY moral, and that is truth. It is just... i have a charcter of a barbarian, but like i said, God changed me.
@sgorgardr227
@sgorgardr227 6 лет назад
éric rémy Yeah))) thank you, that's logical, i get it, definitely will.
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 6 лет назад
Honestly, anyone who is only good due to religion isn't good at all if you think about it. That means they're only acting good to get favor and are still a horrible person whose being deceptive. Also to the responder of the OP's post, i would consider pwnUgood to be considerably more righteous than you since he, even with the possible threat of hell, is still being a good person yet you're only being a "good" person because you're being threatened with suffering by an ancient religion. A truly good and righteous person is good regardless of reward or punishment; a sociopath is good only when it benefits him/her.
@sgorgardr227
@sgorgardr227 6 лет назад
joshua kim Stop lying about me, marginalize me. You invetnet thi yourself, yeas sometimes people say "i do this because God says", but it does not mean that this person is good because only of God, he chose God, he did right already, + you never know, you just CAN'T know what is in his/her heart, how can you judge this? It is not about being in favor, you made it up to show christians as marginals, it is about that God has the most righteousness, and following Him will make you righteous, because you choose to be a righteous, good person, not just wanting some reward, stop making this up. People who LOOK for righteousness are good as well, because when you are good you love everything that is good, so you can't hate christianity and the One who said "love your enemies". I always was a good boy, i thought i am out og this world because how evil this is, you don't know anything about me. Also you will not be in ANY favor if you become a christian, trust me, you'll be hated. For no GOOD reason, or any other reason. This is just there are not only obvious good things in the Bible, there are also things that you cannot comprehend, or you had other thoughts about them, and God explains them to you. Explains things nobody can explain, if Bible would be not from God and false you wouldn't be here attacking it, there would not be 1000000000000 of atheists with burning asses trying to prove something not knowing the Bible, and not understanding they can't prove anything, they themselves don't know anything. You made this "only good because of God" yourself, there is NO such thing EVER. I can say that you obey the law only because you can be punished. You lov your mommy, relatives and friends because you can use them, you love your GF because you can sleep with her. Are you in the perfect relationship? Do you forgive her? Or you get upset? Of course you get upset because other that sleep with each other you can't give each other anything more. You don't harm people only because you're not strong or skillded enough, don't try this with me. There is written in the Bible about that law (Old Testament) only needed because of the sin, righteous are not under the law, they don't need it (but they will break the law, because they are not perfect so they still need them, it is written in the New Testament that you can't completely obey the law, it is impossible), only Jesus makes you different. Not a good guy, but a holy, Bible does not says that you need to be a good guy, it says that you need to be holy, perfect, that's why people hating the Bible and loving things that are more earthal. Also it is written about why you love those who love you, what's the reward? Sinners also love those who love them, help those who help them, give to those who they wait to get back, that's not a God's or a holy way. You, now you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Now, about me. I always was a good boy, always listened to my parents, just were hating school and all forcing around it. I just say that it is not a problem for me to torture, murder, any sadism, anything in nothing to me, i can do it and feel nothing. I'm no evil, i'm just having a monsterous character... and i am ugly, VERY deep voice, not talking but growling, i am monsterous. And it's not that only God makes me not to do it, BUT if there would be no God i would kill everyone as much as i can because you all are weaklings and evil people, and the more you weak the more i am in rage. I know that i am a berserker. Not just God, but the whole sense of life, all these things, wich from the Bible of course, showing how much God loves people, how important this is. It is not for me, but i understand it, and i apply it. So it is not about God, it is about ME, my personal things. God turns berserker into a loving person. Jesus changed me from inside, don't fool yourself, it is about my character. And this shows that people won't have morals by themselves, that's what i meant, that if there would be my moral than the whole world must die, also peole like you, because those who hate religion are a****les, they also hate law, formal things, etc. And then there will be some other people with similar approach. People can't have languages, knowledge and morals by themselves, your morals is just using other people, all this must have come from God, the kid who never were taught to talk will never talk. Also, you have no morals, because you are atheistic weakling scared scum that insults people only because they believe in God, you laugh at them, you call them stupid, you insult, threat harsh, trying to marginalize and humiliate them JUST BECAUSE they don't think what you think, so you immoral, and rest of the moral is just pressure of the law, and we can see how people threat the law - bad, they don't like it because they want no punishment, and you using abilities, time and strenght of other people, thus only those who you like, you don't like those who you don't like. Because. You. Don't. Like. Me. As an example.
@kevnhem819
@kevnhem819 5 лет назад
That is why we are not allowed to ask questions in church
@unchartedraider7547
@unchartedraider7547 3 года назад
Yup
@cookiemons9097
@cookiemons9097 3 года назад
You can if you want to. I hate that most pastors suck at answering small questions about God, it makes it look like there is no answer, but there is for every (or at least most) question that atheists ask
@ninjatortise8958
@ninjatortise8958 3 года назад
I mean, just because somebody dies doesn't automatically they go to heaven though. If you went out of your way to kill an atheist and he never went out of his way to repent than he goes to hell. And, even if you say your Christian but don't go out of your way to truly, sincerely, believe in god you go to hell. And, even if you do truly believe God you could still go to hell because God has final say on whether or not you go to heaven or hell, if he decides your good doesn't out way your bad you go to hell. Also, your kind of missing the point the person who died have had friends and family they left behind on earth and they have to wait an entire lifetime to see them again. Also, the person who died wont have the opportunity to experience all the sights, sounds, feelings and sensations that you can only really experience being alive. Killing them would rob them of that.
@ninjatortise8958
@ninjatortise8958 3 года назад
Also, you are allowed to ask questions in an episcopal church, its literally the entire point of the episcopal church
@ninjatortise8958
@ninjatortise8958 3 года назад
@Joseph I mean, just because somebody dies doesn't automatically they go to heaven though. If you went out of your way to kill an atheist and he never went out of his way to repent than he goes to hell. And, even if you say your Christian but don't go out of your way to truly, sincerely, believe in god you go to hell. And, even if you do truly believe God you could still go to hell because God has final say on whether or not you go to heaven or hell, if he decides your good doesn't out way your bad you go to hell. Also, your kind of missing the point the person who died have had friends and family they left behind on earth and they have to wait an entire lifetime to see them again. Also, the person who died wont have the opportunity to experience all the sights, sounds, feelings and sensations that you can only really experience being alive. Killing them would rob them of that.
@jernyx9139
@jernyx9139 5 лет назад
to sum up 80% of your channel in one sentance ''if biblical god exist, than he is not all powerful or all good'''
@simphiwe4930
@simphiwe4930 5 лет назад
Nor all knowing
@cesaralcaraz819
@cesaralcaraz819 4 года назад
And he's a dumb and an unjust one
@GrimSleepy
@GrimSleepy 4 года назад
Don't forget only Western translations of the ancient texts count: Theist = Christian, Religion = Christianity, God = Christian Bible God. In summary: He seems to be holding a grudge over having been raised Christian, which ruined his Sunday Morning Cartoons, EVERY WEEK of his childhood. Must've been raised in the Bible Belt of the U.S. and had the Bible slapped in his face as though the books were written by their supposed authors, even though it would be the first and only book the authors wrote post-mortem. Not to mention the simple fact that the Dead Sea Scrolls have been found, illuminating some of the 'edits' in the currently used Western Christian Bible as well as some of the adaptations from older civilizations and their writings.
@victor_.
@victor_. 4 года назад
Yeah, the real god is so incomprehensible and infinite that it doesn't have time for petty actions like enforcing a law and his existence trough an old book and judging every single person
@cesaralcaraz819
@cesaralcaraz819 4 года назад
Victor yeah if a god actually exists he wouldn't care about us mere mortals
@nonah1855
@nonah1855 8 лет назад
"Do what I say,not what I do" is the motto of 75% of parents world wide
@someperson5506
@someperson5506 8 лет назад
+Julie Megason But when a furious parent slaps someone, then tells their kids not to hit other kids, it's because what the parent did is genuinely wrong, and the parent is a flawed human being. When it comes to things like alcohol, the reason the kid shouldn't drink is because it's dangerous for the kid, and isn't actually wrong.
@supersatangod4460
@supersatangod4460 8 лет назад
+some person Drinking Alcohol is always wrong. It clouds your mind, creates addiction, erases memory, makes you agressive. It destroys specifically what makes us human.
@someperson5506
@someperson5506 8 лет назад
+Super Satan God So, having one glass of wine to celebrate something it wrong? I'm going to let you think about that one. Either you didn't think this through, or you're trolling.
@supersatangod4460
@supersatangod4460 8 лет назад
+some person I'd say drinking a neurotoxin is stupid at best.
@ScienceDiscoverer
@ScienceDiscoverer 8 лет назад
+some person Eeeem? Actually alcohol is dangerous for person of any age equally. It's one of the strongest and toxic drugs. What's wrong with you, people??
@gingerboi8773
@gingerboi8773 6 лет назад
I feel that Satan would treat people in hell really well, just to spite god.
@margaretbarrett7469
@margaretbarrett7469 5 лет назад
Julius Merino But didn’t Lucifer sin in heaven before he was evicted? So there must have been sin in heaven.
@margaretbarrett7469
@margaretbarrett7469 5 лет назад
Julius Merino It is based on elementary logic: If Lucifer sinned when he was in heaven, then it follows that sin existed in heaven.
@margaretbarrett7469
@margaretbarrett7469 5 лет назад
Julius Merino It is not MY logic- it is just logic. YOU are the one that stated that sin cannot exist in heaven, so it follows that it was impossible for anyone, including Lucifer, to sin in heaven.
@margaretbarrett7469
@margaretbarrett7469 5 лет назад
Julius Merino But YOU said that sin cannot exist IN HEAVEN. So if Lucifer sinned IN HEAVEN, then sin existed IN HEAVEN which contradicts your statement that sin cannot exist in heaven
@margaretbarrett7469
@margaretbarrett7469 5 лет назад
Julius Merino So are you saying that sin DID exist in heaven when Lucifer was there? Are you saying that sin exists in heaven NOW , but “will not” in some future date?
@Lizotte100
@Lizotte100 5 лет назад
4:25 WTF! since i am not english i heard the word "arbitrary" and was like, wtf does that mean? so i paused the video to look it up... just to return to god looking it up himself xD
@DeMiTriDreams
@DeMiTriDreams 5 лет назад
This animator is quite humorous isn't he? And your situation makes it even funnier haha. Nice.
@aaronfairchild7090
@aaronfairchild7090 5 лет назад
Few things make me erupt in laughter, alone, while surfing the web. This did. Perfect symbolism too.
@sulsimsn0579
@sulsimsn0579 5 лет назад
🤣🤣🤣Awesome bro!!!
@tooiiiootbunny5800
@tooiiiootbunny5800 5 лет назад
You resemble god lol
@ratbatnufftime2861
@ratbatnufftime2861 5 лет назад
Are you amish or something???
@ContagiousRepublic
@ContagiousRepublic 6 лет назад
If you're forced to not be yourself and love the murderer of you and your family because he believed too and went to heaven, does that mean the only afterlife you can be yourself in is in hell?? Good question indeed, LOL.
@montee3766
@montee3766 8 месяцев назад
Well it all comes down to sin. Sin ruins your life even on earth so these aren't rules made up just cause but to help is here on earth to live a good lifeand to have eternal life. You are pretty much rewarded for living a good life.
@Stunt877
@Stunt877 7 месяцев назад
⁠@@montee3766sin doesn’t ruin your life unless it’s something extreme like mass genocide. Which the god of the Bible has committed so many times. Everything is in accordance to gods plan so whatever any person does good and bad he or she was programmed to. So they not getting a reward they just following their path
@montee3766
@montee3766 7 месяцев назад
@@Stunt877 you create your own Path. You have a choice. So instead of having such blackpilled mindset keep improving.
@PebkioNomare
@PebkioNomare 8 лет назад
The hypocrisy of a parent telling a child not to drink alcohol and then drinking alcohol themselves depends on the reason given why the child shouldn't drink. If the parent tells the child not to drink because the child isn't old enough to handle an addictive substance responsibly, then it's not hypocritical for the parent to drink as the parent is remarkably older than the child. If, however, the parent tells the child not to drink because it's wrong or amoral, then yes, it would be hypocritical for the parent to then drink anyway. If you did that, you're only teaching the child that it's okay to be amoral or do bad things when you're an adult or when you're older.
@PebkioNomare
@PebkioNomare 8 лет назад
Next up on Parenting 101: Why assigning the same punishment to each type of misbehavior doesn't actually teach them any morality.
@humbertojimmy
@humbertojimmy 8 лет назад
+Pebkio Nomare Its hypocritical regardless. Even in the first scenario its still the father making the assumption and enforcing it, giving no chance for the son to prove him right or wrong. I have seen MANY adults drinking and then not acting responsably, so it is hardly an age matter, at least in full. Besides, the age factor is completely man made, there is no rule in nature stating that you gain special rights after 18. It is perfectly plausible to believe that the kid would act more responsible under the effect of alcohol than his father, and he deserved at least a chance to prove it. Furthermore, the scenario was about the son asking his father for ONE beer, and there is no reason for his father to equate one beer with nacessary loss of sobriety. We can fabricate excuses all day, but the truth is that the father has absolutely no valid reason why to deny his son the right to have the very same beverage he is having himself.
@PebkioNomare
@PebkioNomare 8 лет назад
Jimmy David​ Just because some, or even most, people cannot responsibly handle alcohol doesn't make the concept of an age restriction inherently hypocritical. Which person has a better chance of drinking responsibly: A person with a mostly-formed frontal lobe or a person with a still-forming frontal lobe? Who's more likely to understand all the risks and effects of consuming alcohol: younger person or older person? So, even if the adult cannot *personally* handle the drinking at age 30, it's still not hypocritical to restrict the child based on age. It *would* be hypocritical to later try to restrict the child when that child becomes an adult.
@NeraMT84
@NeraMT84 8 лет назад
+Jimmy David Some adults can get pretty buzzed off of one beer. It also depends on what type...is the kid adult sized? Then maybe so, but it's likely that kid will get QUITE drunk from a whole beer. Especially if they're female or smaller even than average, and more so the younger they get.
@sagerider2
@sagerider2 8 лет назад
+Pebkio Nomare But too often, parents say really stupid stuff. Like "Because I say so." Or, "This is my house, I set the rules." Or, "I brought you into the world, I can take you out."
@stefanarmas9411
@stefanarmas9411 7 лет назад
- God, I was thinking! - That's probably not a good idea, Jeffrey! Best line of the video!
@flowers1038
@flowers1038 6 лет назад
these episodes make you think. :)
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 2 года назад
@@improover113 Darkmatter is Right up there iwth Healthy Atheists, together with Prophet of Zod, Telltale, GMS, Viced Rhino and Spongebob.
@BrassPlayr
@BrassPlayr 2 года назад
@@slevinchannel7589 Don't forget Telltale!
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 2 года назад
@@BrassPlayr I never would!! I bet you would like to see the Issue-Tackling that 'Some More News' does.
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 2 года назад
@@flowers1038 - They actually Make You Not Think. The Objective is to make You Not Think and to Blindly Accept the Claims of its Creator.
@kateboone5848
@kateboone5848 5 лет назад
Jeffrey: God, I've been thinking... God: That's probably not a good idea. 🤣🤣🤣
@aetherofthenorth9700
@aetherofthenorth9700 3 года назад
God in a nutshell
@silasr20
@silasr20 Год назад
@@aetherofthenorth9700 God loves us, but because of our sinful nature, He allows these things to happen. He knows that by allowing us to experience failure, pain, and struggle, we will grow stronger in our faith and to become closer to Him and moving away from sin.
@silasr20
@silasr20 Год назад
God loves us, but because of our sinful nature, He allows these things to happen. He knows that by allowing us to experience failure, pain, and struggle, we will grow stronger in our faith and to become closer to Him and moving away from sin.
@nyarangitirimba7679
@nyarangitirimba7679 5 лет назад
I love such conversations. These types of questions actually humanize us, whether atheist or theist. I believe it's important to have nuances behind our rules. So thanks for making this
@iori7370
@iori7370 3 года назад
Humans are constantly envolving and I wouldn't be surprised if religion, all religion are eraticated and destroyed in the future by vastly enhanced intelligent humans. This will soon likely to happen for the advancements of our race, this is one of the roadblocks of our evolution that has cost many lives and wars makes alot of humans very stupid and dumb.
@unchartedraider7547
@unchartedraider7547 3 года назад
@@iori7370 yeeee
@ninjatortise8958
@ninjatortise8958 3 года назад
I mean, just because somebody dies doesn't automatically they go to heaven though. If you went out of your way to kill an atheist and he never went out of his way to repent than he goes to hell. And, even if you say your Christian but don't go out of your way to truly, sincerely, believe in god you go to hell. And, even if you do truly believe God you could still go to hell because God has final say on whether or not you go to heaven or hell, if he decides your good doesn't out way your bad you go to hell. Also, your kind of missing the point the person who died have had friends and family they left behind on earth and they have to wait an entire lifetime to see them again. Also, the person who died wont have the opportunity to experience all the sights, sounds, feelings and sensations that you can only really experience being alive. Killing them would rob them of that.
@Shutyourmouth20
@Shutyourmouth20 2 года назад
@No One why do u view god as a monster why would an all loving god send people to hell to be tortured forever why would u believe that would u want people believing u send people to hell would u want to be worshipped and feared ur whole life
@kirkstanfield3773
@kirkstanfield3773 Год назад
Are you kidding? This is a direct strike at Christianity and nothing more. Atheist have no moral foundation and that's why they do crap like this, until something happens in their lives then they want someone to pray for their behinds.
@JeanLucPicard85
@JeanLucPicard85 8 лет назад
God murders in mysterious ways. Also, people in Hell get to listen to metal all day? Hell yeah. \m/
@admiralspire8867
@admiralspire8867 8 лет назад
Hell yeah! A
@MobiusMundUr
@MobiusMundUr 8 лет назад
+Jean~Luc Picard YEEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!
@TaigaXsenpai
@TaigaXsenpai 8 лет назад
+DancingPotato16 all that screaming is true death metal xD
@JeanLucPicard85
@JeanLucPicard85 8 лет назад
***** Probably. After all, the late Mr. Nimoy appeared in J.J. Abrams' movies, it's not like we have standards.
@deepsea5348
@deepsea5348 8 лет назад
+Jean~Luc Picard I see what you did there! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@iwalkwithroaches9611
@iwalkwithroaches9611 6 лет назад
Jeffrey for god 2020
@irllcd13
@irllcd13 5 лет назад
Tony 247 Make the universe great again.
@jimothyworldbuilding3664
@jimothyworldbuilding3664 5 лет назад
Jeffrey: *catches God doing some fucked up shit* "[You're an awful God!]" God: "Oh, you think you could do better?" Jeffrey: "YES!" God: *makes alternate universe for Jeff to have infinite power within, possibly makes some rules that Jeffrey points out as unfair as God has no rules but follows anyways* Prove it. Jeffrey: *proves it by making an intergalactic utopia, or giving humanity the tools for it* God: You failed. Jeffrey: Wut? God: "The point isn't to make a utopia it's for everyone to worship you. I can't help but notice you never revealed yourself to the people of this universe and changed the heaven/hell system to one where individuals are judged on actions not beliefs and aren't directly punished with hell but instead convinced to become better people by showing them how their actions affected others before being sent to heaven, as well as helping humanity along to its utopia from the shadows. I fail to see much worship. Grade: F-" *Thanos snaps the entire alternate universe out of existence* Jeffrey: *cries*
@codyd7841
@codyd7841 4 года назад
That should be a video if Jeffery was good 😀
@TonyStarks23
@TonyStarks23 4 года назад
Ductah Jimothy Zea
@estinsidebottom
@estinsidebottom 4 года назад
I Am From The Year 2020 And Agree Fully!
@insertyourfeelingshere8106
@insertyourfeelingshere8106 4 года назад
“Atleast we still have our minds”
@ProgramViBee
@ProgramViBee 4 года назад
*creepy heaven noises*
@nielvosloo
@nielvosloo 4 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣 nice one!
@kima5316
@kima5316 3 года назад
Yeah... but the pain would make it insane. So I would prefer to be mindless in hell. 😂
@insertyourfeelingshere8106
@insertyourfeelingshere8106 3 года назад
Lyan Kima I haven’t seen this video in years but pretty sure heaven was the mindless place
@kima5316
@kima5316 3 года назад
In the video, yeah. I meant who would be sane in hell tortured for infinity bruh.
@tiger6654
@tiger6654 4 года назад
God: *is all-knowing * Also God: *looks up the definitions of elementary words*
@jiralishu
@jiralishu 3 года назад
Plenty of people don't know some of those words. Because, in America at least, it's possible to graduate high school and read at a second grade level or lower. Trust me when I say that I've met these people.
@Mii.2.0
@Mii.2.0 3 года назад
@@jiralishu We Americans are a special type of people in this world...
@ninjatortise8958
@ninjatortise8958 3 года назад
I mean, just because somebody dies doesn't automatically they go to heaven though. If you went out of your way to kill an atheist and he never went out of his way to repent than he goes to hell. And, even if you say your Christian but don't go out of your way to truly, sincerely, believe in god you go to hell. And, even if you do truly believe God you could still go to hell because God has final say on whether or not you go to heaven or hell, if he decides your good doesn't out way your bad you go to hell. Also, your kind of missing the point the person who died have had friends and family they left behind on earth and they have to wait an entire lifetime to see them again. Also, the person who died wont have the opportunity to experience all the sights, sounds, feelings and sensations that you can only really experience being alive. Killing them would rob them of that.
@ninjatortise8958
@ninjatortise8958 3 года назад
@@jiralishu I mean, just because somebody dies doesn't automatically they go to heaven though. If you went out of your way to kill an atheist and he never went out of his way to repent than he goes to hell. And, even if you say your Christian but don't go out of your way to truly, sincerely, believe in god you go to hell. And, even if you do truly believe God you could still go to hell because God has final say on whether or not you go to heaven or hell, if he decides your good doesn't out way your bad you go to hell. Also, your kind of missing the point the person who died have had friends and family they left behind on earth and they have to wait an entire lifetime to see them again. Also, the person who died wont have the opportunity to experience all the sights, sounds, feelings and sensations that you can only really experience being alive. Killing them would rob them of that.
@ninjatortise8958
@ninjatortise8958 3 года назад
@@Mii.2.0 I mean, just because somebody dies doesn't automatically they go to heaven though. If you went out of your way to kill an atheist and he never went out of his way to repent than he goes to hell. And, even if you say your Christian but don't go out of your way to truly, sincerely, believe in god you go to hell. And, even if you do truly believe God you could still go to hell because God has final say on whether or not you go to heaven or hell, if he decides your good doesn't out way your bad you go to hell. Also, your kind of missing the point the person who died have had friends and family they left behind on earth and they have to wait an entire lifetime to see them again. Also, the person who died wont have the opportunity to experience all the sights, sounds, feelings and sensations that you can only really experience being alive. Killing them would rob them of that.
@mivapusa
@mivapusa 8 лет назад
Yet again, you continue to amaze me, Darkmatter. I'm honestly surprised you can still find material after this many vidoes, but Hel, I'm not complaining. You deconstruct a ton of BS, and do so with humor and intelligent arguments.
@thulyblu5486
@thulyblu5486 8 лет назад
+Michael VPS I think he sometimes asks in the comment section if anyone has a good idea
@Sorann14
@Sorann14 8 лет назад
+Michael VPS I notice you have the Caldari logo from EVE Online as your RU-vid channel icon. Do you play it?
@MOPEDBRAD
@MOPEDBRAD 8 лет назад
The material writes itself.
@DChatc
@DChatc 8 лет назад
+Michael VPS The ammount of flaws in the scripture both in terms of chronology, logic and basic common sense are endless, you can pick away at it forever and find a new angle, a new detail (and the more you learn about the actual culture and politics of the bible and the world it was all happening in, even more startling conclusions and inrigues start emerging, like how propagandistic this thing really is in the context it was written and how the whole thing really was just a bunch of small-time gangsters trying to control their population as well as frighten off and quell potential invaders from the East (and later North), and the further implications of that and how these ideas have very likely set us back in every conceivible way for centuries..
@MOPEDBRAD
@MOPEDBRAD 8 лет назад
DChatc Isiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness. I create good, and make evil. I the Lord do all these things.
@merikmalhads1676
@merikmalhads1676 8 лет назад
I still don't get why the devil punishes people. Isn't he evil? Wouldn't sinning be a positive for him?
@krackothunder
@krackothunder 8 лет назад
He's not so much an evil as a chaotic force: Any logical evil would have understood by now that punishing others for no reason will make them stay away, whereas a chaotic entity doesn't have such an advanced though process. That goes twice for the fact that if the whole bible-busiess is true, there is no reason the devil couldn't create things to kill himself.
@pdoylemi
@pdoylemi 8 лет назад
krackothunder Did you spot the flaw in your thesis? It's quite subtle, really. You used the word "logical" in reference to religious belief. You have to remember a few things about the Christian belief system. One is utter disdain for humanity. In that religion, humans are depraved sinners who are easily tempted by evil. The second thing to remember is magic. If you open yourself up even a little to the devil, or are not properly protected by god's magic, then the devil can use his magic, or Jedi mind tricks or whatever, to make you do evil things. And once all that happens, people have no choice to stay away - god will send them to the devil gift wrapped for eternity.
@krackothunder
@krackothunder 8 лет назад
Pat Doyle ...Yeah, ok, sorry, now that you mention it, it seems obvious. I derped^^°
@pdoylemi
@pdoylemi 8 лет назад
krackothunder Don't worry - it is easy for logical people to forget that religion has little to nothing to do with logic :-)
@jasonx7501
@jasonx7501 8 лет назад
Is there any reason to speculate that a fictional character has any of these personality attributes mentioned to justify his actions, or that he is merely just a poorly written literary invention, so none of it has to make sense?
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 5 лет назад
"Did you see anything?" "No, I didn't see you playing with your dolls again!"
@hxntaicx9757
@hxntaicx9757 5 лет назад
AntiCitizenX hey dude I’ve been watching a lot of you videos recently, i like your style because it helps me learn how to argue properly.
@xxjayxx7740
@xxjayxx7740 4 года назад
I sent this to my bible teacher
@xxjayxx7740
@xxjayxx7740 4 года назад
Still no answer
@ProgramViBee
@ProgramViBee 4 года назад
XxJayxX YT I think you done got shunned my dude
@nielvosloo
@nielvosloo 4 года назад
XxJayxX YT that’s fantastic! Good for you! I sent this to the address on a random postcard I bought online, from a shop that’s just off the wall in the South Pole!
@banana4814
@banana4814 3 года назад
Did he answer ?
@deanholderde5959
@deanholderde5959 3 года назад
What’s a bible teacher? Is it a church provided service, a freelance thing, something much worse?
@Blackgoats
@Blackgoats 7 лет назад
I'm laughing at the fact that Christian's aren't understanding this video.
@Blackgoats
@Blackgoats 7 лет назад
Most of em at least
@derdingsreturnsnochmal5177
@derdingsreturnsnochmal5177 7 лет назад
SHORT description of my religion: I'm christian, but I'm not out of my mind. ;)
@khansen6736
@khansen6736 7 лет назад
amen to that, most of the bible is crap anyway. but Christian in name we shall remain
@josephdillard9907
@josephdillard9907 7 лет назад
Kåre Hansen But why though? If you know that most of the bible is crap (and I'm betting that you don't believe in magic or anything like that either) then why keep clinging to a belief that you adopted in the first place only because you were raised to? I am, of course, going by the fact that nearly every religious person in the world was raised to believe whatever religion they hold Nearly every religious person in the world never actually chose their religion, never went shopping through the thousands of religions mankind has come up with, but simply had the religion of their parents and their local community thrust into their minds from the earliest possible age with the effect being that, by adulthood, it would be such an ingrained part of their psyche that they would never question it and even take great personal offense from anybody else questioning it But if you know it's crap, why cling to it? Fear? Comfort? Superstition? It doesn't make any sense....
@wiritpollapcharoenporn3168
@wiritpollapcharoenporn3168 6 лет назад
I am Buddhist. I am never religious and the first thing Buddha taught is to have faith but it have to be provable. Basically you can believe but not blindly believe. What Jefferey said is totally sound and logical? We don't have to prove existence of god. The evidence already prove it. True wisdom only born from questioning and the answer is obvious. I mean if I chose the life of a murderer over a family would it be a sin. What if that murderer have a family as well? Can I have a right to judge a person who kill to save a hundred without being in his shoes. Contradiction is so obvious if the bible have a right to judge someone it meant the writer must experience being in the position he have to chose and know the consequence and since the source suppose to be all good how can he judge the action that blurred the line.
@phantasiai
@phantasiai 8 лет назад
Yup, I'd rather suffer in hell than be brainwashed in heaven.
@BobbyBlockable
@BobbyBlockable 8 лет назад
+PsalmChapter117 You would have to have a sub 30 IQ to belive in a magic space fairy that created the universe and knows an loves you.
@6023barath
@6023barath 8 лет назад
Hey, look on the bright side! We can meet other atheists or sinners who we wanted to meet! Xd
@kidslovesatan
@kidslovesatan 8 лет назад
You'd have to be brain washed to believe in hell.
@thesarcasticfantasticman1488
@thesarcasticfantasticman1488 8 лет назад
+Barath Raj Yaaaayyyy!!! :)
@MozartPrado
@MozartPrado 8 лет назад
Hell is a sweet deal, well even heaven is better than reality if you get this line of tought.
@platosocrates9350
@platosocrates9350 3 года назад
The catholic teaching is that hell is simply the absence of god. Which ironically makes hell sound more like heaven than heaven itself.
@khalev7232
@khalev7232 2 года назад
I'm not a Catholic, but let's continue in Catholic thought here. I'm pretty sure Catholics observe James 1:17 that "Every good and perfect gift is from above." Which means absence from God necessitates absence from anything that can be called "good." No good night's sleep, no coca-cola, no love, no friendships, not even sex, drugs, and rock-and-roll. Only suffering and Hawaiian pizza.
@felicityc
@felicityc Год назад
@@khalev7232 I've never heard such a strong argument, I am converting back right now
@Calembunial
@Calembunial 2 года назад
This is something that always confused me about heaven. As someone who values their time, and is constantly wondering about what I'll be doing whenever I'm going somewhere, I was always bothered about the fact that everyone likes the idea of going to heaven, but nobody knows what they'll be doing there. What's even worse is that whenever I bring this up, I always get hit by a bunch of vague answers. Almost as if it's something nobody wants to actually think about.
@entique4216
@entique4216 Год назад
Well what ever will happen to the people up there, i bet its only good stuff
@ideitbawxproductions1880
@ideitbawxproductions1880 Год назад
@@entique4216 I heard Jesus has the best cocaine...
@lazarus8018
@lazarus8018 Год назад
It's like Jeffrey said in another episode. We all hype heaven up to be the ultimate paradise, and yet we spend our entire lives trying to avoid going there.
@mcflyingfury
@mcflyingfury Год назад
To be fair, if God is in control of everything, he could just manipulate your mind to feel happy and joyous all the time - similar to how endorphins work in the brain. We wouldn't really be ourselves, but scientifically it's possible for an entity to be permanently happy forever. Although knowing all the other stuff that God has done, I somehow doubt it's that good.
@jamespriddy8275
@jamespriddy8275 10 месяцев назад
I hope DarkMatter will be making a response to Hamass attacking Israel with the thought that it’s all according to gods plan
@jimscobie6646
@jimscobie6646 8 лет назад
God's plan + free will equals...? nope, doesn't add up.
@jimscobie6646
@jimscobie6646 8 лет назад
+Joshua Harris I see, so, God made us because he wanted us to worship and serve him. I made a couple of kids. I should do what God does and make them worship and serve me. yeah! ungrateful little kids! If they disobey me, I'll burn them. That's how it works!
@jimscobie6646
@jimscobie6646 8 лет назад
+Your Mom there is a little known in between area. When you die, you may end up in heavenell. It's not as good as Heaven but not as bad as hell. People that have petty sins go there. The punishment isn't quite as severe. Mostly smelling dirty socks and armpits.
@sorenjensen3863
@sorenjensen3863 8 лет назад
+Your Mom You realize that there isn't any description of hell in the bible right? And being denied heaven has nothing to do with hating god.
@sorenjensen3863
@sorenjensen3863 8 лет назад
+ scares Do you believe in the prophesy of the prophets? Revelations and all that. Or even Jesus prophesying his death and resurrection?
@sorenjensen3863
@sorenjensen3863 7 лет назад
+ scares so you don't believe in free will...
@MorningstarVODS
@MorningstarVODS 8 лет назад
1x1=1
@DumpsterFire.92
@DumpsterFire.92 8 лет назад
+Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell Not according to Common Core!
@MorningstarVODS
@MorningstarVODS 8 лет назад
***** I get that a lot"
@JeanLucPicard85
@JeanLucPicard85 8 лет назад
The final 1 only confirms the trend set by the previous two.
@BonJoviworstbandever
@BonJoviworstbandever 8 лет назад
+Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell what about midichlorians though?
@thulyblu5486
@thulyblu5486 8 лет назад
+Calico Sack too bad that there's an 'is' instead of an 'are' (mitochondrion is singular, mitochondria plural) so... Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell ? REALLY? JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEAL BEAMS!
@conantheadventuror2531
@conantheadventuror2531 3 года назад
"Heaven for the weather hell for company" Mark Twain
@laytondrake289
@laytondrake289 4 года назад
Wow, honestly I thought I was the only one who thought about "if we go in heaven and only be happy, wouldn't that mean I would lose my free will? Plus wouldn't that mean if I go to hell and feel suffering and pain from remembering my sins, that means I keep my free will?" That is when I thought I break away the illusion of going to heaven.
@willievanstraaten1960
@willievanstraaten1960 4 года назад
You see.
@diablo.the.cheater
@diablo.the.cheater 4 года назад
Much talk about going to heaven but zero talk about invading and colonizing hell, plus enslaving demons for domestic ownership.
@prodecks2005
@prodecks2005 3 года назад
@@diablo.the.cheater I dont believe in hell but if we do assume hell is real.. We can also assume the demons there are immortal unstoppable monsters with the ability to cause suffering unlike anything imaginable. meaning even if it was 100 quadtrillion humans versus 10 demons the human likely would be tortured and enslaved because not one of them can possibly overthrow something so far beyond their comprehensions.
@fss1704
@fss1704 Год назад
Sure, study how to make an air conditioner first and we're golden.
@hondahousey1127
@hondahousey1127 7 лет назад
If people actually read the bible, it's actually not that difficult to see who's the real hero in the story and the real villain. Who liberated humanity with the gift of knowledge, and encouraged humanity to embrace our "god-given" instincts, rather than repress them? Who committed mass genocide, endorsed slavery, murder, and bigotry? Who has the greater kill count?
@alankusparmakov9330
@alankusparmakov9330 6 лет назад
Satan haven't killed shit. He's just stuck in Hell doing the only thing he's allowed to do - torture the dead. God, on the other hand...
@dillman6514
@dillman6514 6 лет назад
TrashedGt lol you an anti-Semite
@mrkanin8457
@mrkanin8457 6 лет назад
The Bible is boring
@SavageGreywolf
@SavageGreywolf 6 лет назад
I mean, Satan did kill Job's children but he asked God's permission to do it
@griffinoleary1694
@griffinoleary1694 6 лет назад
God created the tree in Eden because he wanted to see if they had curiosity to disobey him.
@thepip3599
@thepip3599 8 лет назад
Wait a second. Hitler was Christian. That means, according to Christianity, Hitler got to go to heaven. That's just messed up.
@thenopasslook
@thenopasslook 8 лет назад
You haven't read a bible have you?
@lovelldela3919
@lovelldela3919 8 лет назад
+Bryson Townsend he probably doesn't read myths
@thenopasslook
@thenopasslook 8 лет назад
+Shoot Klay Shoot Do some homework on the New Testament. You probably are one of those people who thinks Jesus wasn't even a real person.
@thenopasslook
@thenopasslook 8 лет назад
+Alyasor firelord Mythology? I can tell by your disrespect that you aren't interested in learning the truth, you just want to belittle Christianity. Continue to bask in your ignorance. If you read the Bible, you would know that Hitler would not be considered a Christian.
@lovelldela3919
@lovelldela3919 8 лет назад
Bryson Townsend Zeus is way more fun God.He got to fuck so many bitches
@brunozeigerts6379
@brunozeigerts6379 4 года назад
'I didn't see you playing with your dolls again!' 'Good!'
@bobthellama6988
@bobthellama6988 4 года назад
5:26 Sounds like a way to justify child abuse
@aetherofthenorth9700
@aetherofthenorth9700 3 года назад
Well it IS in the bible that parents can abuse and even kill their children since they made then
@bobthellama6988
@bobthellama6988 3 года назад
@@aetherofthenorth9700 Really? What verse?
@kleptomania2631
@kleptomania2631 3 года назад
@@bobthellama6988 don't you literally remember the story where a man has to sacrifice his child due to god instructing him, but the child itself is given no input. It happens multiple times. Children are treated like property. In the story of job he loses his many children, money, cattle and land. They are taken away as a test for job and his faith. They are killed to be his father's test , how is that fair. After he overcomes the trials of God and Satan, in the end he is given children to reimburse himself as if that is moral. This is emphasised when you realise he didn't take all family away only his children, not his uncle, wife or mother. They already took I believe over 10 of his children. The children are treated to be repalcable.
@deanholderde5959
@deanholderde5959 3 года назад
Very good llama.
@BlueSmokie
@BlueSmokie 8 лет назад
i never understood why Satan would torture people souls, is the forever battle between god and the devil over and now there buddies helping each other? im just saying wouldnt it help satan's plan too destroy god, by trainning the souls he gets? lastly, why would god even be that angry or whatever to the souls that dont believe and send them to the devil's ever growing army?
@BlueSmokie
@BlueSmokie 8 лет назад
***** which makes be wonder that they are buddies and the so called war is bs.
@leo16mmiv
@leo16mmiv 8 лет назад
+simone4447 I'm not exactly sure that it explicitly says in Christianity that Satan tortures soul, and that this isn't just folklore based on some metaphor. However, if he does, it's likely an extension of his role in Judaism, where he serves as a tempter, tester and prosecutor to help people spiritually evolve (or something) like that. However, he still works for God, so Satan doesn't really want you to fail the test. The comparison has been made to Mr. Wilkinson in the 1971 film of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. As for the forever war between God and Satan, it was patched from bits and pieces, mostly from Revelations, probably when the Orthodox tradition had been formed, and even in Paul's time, it seems that it wasn't completed yet. A lot of it seems to be supported by the fall of a Babylonian king with the title "Son of the Morning Star" who was then conflated with Satan. This is off the top of my head. I actually haven't had to deal with the Bible in quite a few years. My point, though, is that the forever battle was probably made up towards the end of the closing of the canon and that it isn't as well put together as Satan's prior role of tempter, tester and prosecutor.
@BlueSmokie
@BlueSmokie 8 лет назад
leo16mmiv so wait is the devil and satan different beings or the same? im even more confused. they make satan to be everything that evil...
@NebulaBlackF
@NebulaBlackF 8 лет назад
+simone4447 There are four different "Satan"s in the Bible. Christians appearently can't read their own Bible correctly for some reason. 1- Nachash (Serpent) This one actually has no connection to Satan. This is the serpent of the Garden of the Eve. Bringer of Knowledge. This is where humans are first given free will. God denies humans free will and wisdom and punishes them when they accept an offer. But it's ok... since God is "good". 2- Satan (Adversary) (Bible) This one is the most confusing one, the world itself is plural. It doesn't mean one being. Satan means "the Adversary" which means that anyone/anything who doesn't believe or are against God is a Satan and/or part of Satan. 3- Satan (Adversary) (Torah) This one is an Angel of God, in this case the word refers to the spirit that tests humans on how faithful they are to God. He's just a normal Angel. Nothing important to see here. 4- Helel (Lucifer) This one is not even evil, he just sees God for what he is and calls him out. He is then punished for his rebellion. (If God is all-powerful, why God is so scared of a rebellion in the first place?) Angels who stood with him are also punished. I keep calling Lucifer him, but the word itself is pretty feminine, so "he" could be a female or genderless. Now, none of this information matters, why? Bible, like Torah, is a culmination of older cultures and religions. It's not original at all. Almost all known world religions come from one source, Hindus. They are the oldest source and yet hardest to understand. (You have to know Sanskrit) Not to mention that Hinduism when broken down to basics, is somehow compatible with Atheist and even Modern Worldview, because deities are just properties of nature. Other religions corrupted Hinduism's non-literal view. Torah, Bible & Quran trio steals from older religions heavily. 1 - Nachash comes from Nagas who protect the treasures of the Underworld. 2- Satan is also dumbed-bown version of Ahriman/Angra Mainyu as the original was equal in power to God. While in Judeo version is not. 3- Helel is basically a corrupted version of Mātariśvan.
@BlueSmokie
@BlueSmokie 8 лет назад
NebulaBlackF thanks so much for clearing this up for me, i do appreciate it!
@mstr293
@mstr293 8 лет назад
3:06 Jeffrey: "God, I was thinking." God: "That's probably not a good idea, Jeffrey." That one-liner from god is proof enough that Darkmatter2525 can make a perfect re-enactment of what the christian god is like if he exists.
@dogiz6952
@dogiz6952 8 лет назад
There's no need for a question mark.
@314official6
@314official6 8 лет назад
+Gabriel Blas what the fuck do you want?what do you believe in?
@mstr293
@mstr293 8 лет назад
Hmm...I find it weird that I don't get notifications for this? Anyways, I was just fucking kidding! I know he doesn't exist.
@mstr293
@mstr293 8 лет назад
+asificam1 "God will cast Jeffrey out like the rest of the demons." Of course, he will! So you're telling me that this version of god is nicer. You know? You're kinda proving the point shown on most DM videos about god being a no different from most dictators.
@314official6
@314official6 8 лет назад
i onestly dont believe in the old testament.its just a piece of crap with lies in it.i dont eve belive in adam and eve because its impossible from 2 to make billions.but i think god is in the somewhere watching us an he is desparate about what we have done
@bestgameplay831
@bestgameplay831 5 лет назад
Isnt it more logical to not kill as an atheist I believe there is nothing so i will end it for ever for you. As a Christian, you think you will send the person to heaven even faster
@margaretbarrett7469
@margaretbarrett7469 5 лет назад
best gameplay Exactly! Also includes abortion - if christians believe that aborted souls go straight to heaven, they should welcome, indeed encourage abortion. After all, if the child lives beyond the age of reason, the chances are they WON’T go to heaven (the narrow path and all that). It makes more sense for atheists to be against abortion if they believe that this life is all there is.
@alinastanescu4430
@alinastanescu4430 3 года назад
@@axstmn7670 Technicly we have control of our own actions, we are sentient chemicals
@Cobalt985
@Cobalt985 3 года назад
@@axstmn7670 you’re scratching the most basic surface of ethics. What you’re describing is called “nihilism” and it’s not the same as atheism or agnosticism.
@ninjatortise8958
@ninjatortise8958 3 года назад
I mean, just because somebody dies doesn't automatically they go to heaven though. If you went out of your way to kill an atheist and he never went out of his way to repent than he goes to hell. And, even if you say your Christian but don't go out of your way to truly, sincerely, believe in god you go to hell. And, even if you do truly believe God you could still go to hell because God has final say on whether or not you go to heaven or hell, if he decides your good doesn't out way your bad you go to hell. Also, your kind of missing the point the person who died have had friends and family they left behind on earth and they have to wait an entire lifetime to see them again. Also, the person who died wont have the opportunity to experience all the sights, sounds, feelings and sensations that you can only really experience being alive. Killing them would rob them of that.
@jbrown5955
@jbrown5955 5 лет назад
That ending was literally the best and most chilling thing I’ve ever seen. I instantly subscribed and this is the first video by him I’ve ever seen.
@HellishSpoon
@HellishSpoon 6 лет назад
"Your DEATH is in gods PLAN!" Should be a song lyric
@jesussaves9974
@jesussaves9974 6 лет назад
HELL SPOONtheJojoMain is your own plan
@renwulf1695
@renwulf1695 6 лет назад
Maybe a revenge song.
@leekwak2132
@leekwak2132 6 лет назад
if only drake had mentioned it :/
@dt-lg2oc
@dt-lg2oc 6 лет назад
Oh my god this guy predicted Drake's God's plan
@cryptidcreates9942
@cryptidcreates9942 6 лет назад
HELL SPOON I'll get on that.
@Vloke6
@Vloke6 8 лет назад
When I question religion, my parents and their friends say: God works in mysterious ways! Obviously this is true as God has MANY USES in allowing 80 people to die! Makes soooo much sense! I love you adults!
@MrCrisscrash
@MrCrisscrash 8 лет назад
What 80 people? Millions of people die each day. And millions are born as well. We can't hold God accountable for everything, it's our responsibility to not do this shit in the first place.
@Vloke6
@Vloke6 8 лет назад
vasil tsakov The 80 from the lorry in Nice. Millions ARE born, but lives aren't just replaced or something! Besides, God could have just changed somebody's mind, or left food around for kids to eat. Did you know that 3000 die every year in India simply because predicting the monsoons is hard?
@MrCrisscrash
@MrCrisscrash 8 лет назад
Nathanael Gould God doesn't control us when we are alive. Doing so would interfere with free will. Besides if you look at it, it's all just choices and consequences. Maybe those people shouldn't have settled in a baron land. No one forced them to. God doesn't owe us anything. Besides it is all just temporary, we'll all die eventually.
@Vloke6
@Vloke6 8 лет назад
vasil tsakov God had no problem interfering with free will in the OLD testament, though! Why change his mind, he's supposed to be consistent! Besides, if a man rapes a woman, it is not the woman's free will to be raped, but it's the mans! So God is favouring the man by inaction, I think.
@MrCrisscrash
@MrCrisscrash 8 лет назад
Nathanael Gould Well it is called the ''OLD'' testament, so at this point the New Testament is the one you should be looking at. Also God isn't favoring anyone when rape occurs. At this point God knows we're a total failure in following his rules, so now he doesn't care about our bullshit. Hell, even at this point all you have to do is accept Christ into your heart, not try to live a moral life. That's pretty much like a teacher trying to give out an easy grade to someone who is going to fail their class just so they don't have to go to summer school or fail the year.
@IvanSensei88
@IvanSensei88 3 года назад
Even Islam is guilty of this. According to Islam, when you get to heaven Allah will eliminate and expunge all negative feelings from you. You will be in a state of perfect bliss. I called that brainwashing, and when that is done, you are no longer you. Being able to feel resentment, hate, remorse, sadness, anger, jealousy, envy etc etc is what makes you, YOU. Remove that, and you are now You 2.0 - not the same person Also considering how Christians like to say life is just a test to see your true nature and decide whether you'll go to heaven or hell, then what's the point if God's going to mentally modify you anyway? He may as well have done so with the sinners, fixing them to his liking and changing them to be genuinely good people. It makes that test absolutely redundant and pointless.
@KezyORoan
@KezyORoan 4 года назад
For me it's Jeffrey's butt cheeks when he turned around. 🤣 🤣
@cookiemons9097
@cookiemons9097 3 года назад
Got that dumpy
@ninjatortise8958
@ninjatortise8958 3 года назад
I mean, just because somebody dies doesn't automatically they go to heaven though. If you went out of your way to kill an atheist and he never went out of his way to repent than he goes to hell. And, even if you say your Christian but don't go out of your way to truly, sincerely, believe in god you go to hell. And, even if you do truly believe God you could still go to hell because God has final say on whether or not you go to heaven or hell, if he decides your good doesn't out way your bad you go to hell. Also, your kind of missing the point the person who died have had friends and family they left behind on earth and they have to wait an entire lifetime to see them again. Also, the person who died wont have the opportunity to experience all the sights, sounds, feelings and sensations that you can only really experience being alive. Killing them would rob them of that.
@fundamentalistsrdangerous9472
@fundamentalistsrdangerous9472 8 лет назад
that ending is perfect. I've heard this before from some theists who are family that when they are on heaven it'll be pure joy and bliss and won't be aware of the family that is not there. that's when I realized they are talking about brainwashing and I asked them about it. they said I'm misunderstanding. lol I don't see how
@user-yv2fb4mi1k
@user-yv2fb4mi1k 2 года назад
hello Satan glad to see you in this comment section
@skwills1629
@skwills1629 2 года назад
You Realised it was Brainwashing when You heard an Atheist Video or Read an Atheist Website calling it Brainwashing. Why Lie about that? Its bad Enough You have to Lie about what Christians Believe then cover that Lie by the "45000 Denominations" Lie or the "You don't Speak for all Christians" Lie, but it gets Old hearing the Lies to defend Lies to defend Lies. Militant Atheists are the Ones Who brainwash People, and are themselves Brianwashed. Repeating the same Garbage then saying they Think for Themselves and got all this before they ever Watched their First Atheist Video or Read thei First Atheist Website. its all Garbage. its all Lies. its all Brainwashing.
@brandonjones7235
@brandonjones7235 Год назад
@@user-yv2fb4mi1k You're funny...not.
@user-yv2fb4mi1k
@user-yv2fb4mi1k Год назад
@@brandonjones7235 You're gay...yes
@brandonjones7235
@brandonjones7235 Год назад
@@user-yv2fb4mi1k Lol, did you just assume I'm gay? I'm heterosexual, you moron.
@4um360
@4um360 6 лет назад
5:16 “It’s not murder when I do it.”
@sassylittleprophet
@sassylittleprophet 3 года назад
My family actually believes this.
@kornshadow097
@kornshadow097 4 года назад
I've always said this. Theists are either bribed by heaven or threatened by hell.. Doesn't sound like free will.. Prizes if you are a good, slave n punishment if you're not... So nobody does things just to be good people... Only atheists care about being good people... Just for the sake of being good.. Also In heaven if everyone must get along, this means no personality, bias, race, experiences, memories or opinions can go along with you as all of those would create conflict with someone, somewhere... Which can't happen... Glad this video touches briefly on this subject... I believe your life on Earth is made into heaven or hell based on choices... But things out of our control can still screw us just cause... Sad life n sad death... But at least we come back after our soul gets back in line for reincarnation... Still.. Tangible existence seems worthless but spiritual existence must be worse if interdementional beings/spirits always seek tangible bodies to possess..
@trippydippiehippie3958
@trippydippiehippie3958 4 года назад
I feel ya, but I hate to break it to ya' lad, there isn't any reincarnation.
@Mantaforce2
@Mantaforce2 2 года назад
Even if there was such a thing as reincarnation, if you don't remember anything from your previous life then reincarnation is meaningless.
@brucecook502
@brucecook502 9 месяцев назад
I find it disgusting that Christians believe this way, that an older person that is allegedly not saved can kill a person much younger than himself who likewise was not saved, essentially sending that person to hell, but the murderer can convert later on in life while in prison and get to go to heaven yet that younger person who did not get to live long enough to possibly convert is in a fixed state of Torment forever. Why didn't the younger person get a chance to live long enough to possibly convert yet the murderer got to? This would suggests that adults they have gone into schools and committed these atrocities on children killing many children that are allegedly over the age of accountability for whatever that is supposed to mean, yet the murderer gets to go to heaven if they are already saved or get saved later on. There is no justice at all for people who die young and get thrown in Hell forever by a god that wants us to believe is merciful and just, but let's others live much longer and convert later in life. It is so obvious that all of these claims are purely man-made and made up by people who didn't think their claims through before they made them.
@corvax8644
@corvax8644 6 лет назад
6:56 that does bring up another point. If everything happens according to God’s ultimate plan, then how could anyone have free will?
@divinity5987
@divinity5987 6 лет назад
Richard Hopkins He does that because something good comes out of it
@kierstencreates958
@kierstencreates958 6 лет назад
The Bible actually doesn't say that everything happens as God plans. It has several accounts of man's will interfering with God's. It also says that satan is in control of alot of the world. The whole idea that God controls every single event that goes on is made by man
@sanhakim1335
@sanhakim1335 6 лет назад
@Richard Hopkins you forget a very important point. Only the good parts of the Old Testament aren't erased by Jesus's sacrifice. None of that "if you rapw someone, you gotta pay the father 500 silver to marry the girl" but the whole moses story still flies
@sanhakim1335
@sanhakim1335 6 лет назад
@Richard Hopkins I bet that if christians had to read passages from the bible that were paraphrased and told that it was part of the toran or some shit, most of them would say that the toran is immoral and full of lies
@sanhakim1335
@sanhakim1335 6 лет назад
@Ben Smith I don't think you understand how fragile free will is. It's so fragile that it may not even exist in the atheist world view. For example, if time travel or even foretelling the future is possible, and we just don't know how to do it yet, that means free will is impossible. If you can travel or see into the future, it must mean that the future exists simultaneously with the present, because you can't travel or see into something that doesn't exist. This means that everything anyone ever does or ever did cannot change the future, since it's already happening. This basically means there cannot be free will because everyone is mocing very precisely according to the events needed to make the future true. Free will is even more fragile if you believe a god that can see into the future and is all powerful is real. If God created everything to go exactly as hebplanned, we cannot have free will because even our disobedience of god's plan would have been foreseen by god and be a part of god's plan. It's like if I claimed that my in game avatar has free will just because I set it to auto battle instead of manual battle
@bindihaizi
@bindihaizi 8 лет назад
"Murder must feel good to God too. He does it all the time. And are we not made in his image?" - Hannibal Lecter
@Tyreece190
@Tyreece190 6 лет назад
Liam Mckullin it's not murder if God does it if HE MADE YIU he can take you back.
@joker9in
@joker9in 6 лет назад
egyptian wolf by that same logic It's perfectly ok for any parent to murder their child.
@Tyreece190
@Tyreece190 6 лет назад
joker9in parents aren't god God's different he made us all he gave us a soul he can take it so no there's no compare
@Tyreece190
@Tyreece190 6 лет назад
joker9in god* not good I
@joker9in
@joker9in 6 лет назад
egyptian wolf Even if God gave us our souls (which is quite the stretch considering that no one has ever produced a shred of proof that souls exist or that we have them), and I accept your premise that God and only God gives us our souls I must then ask you, so what? Even if God gave us souls explain how that gives him the right to arbtraly end our lives on his whim. I still can't see any justification. I still think my analogy is correct after all my parents gave me a lot more than just a soul, they gave me flesh and blood, my mind, my DNA, they gave me their time, money, and love, they gave me a lot more than god ever did, and even with all that I still would not say that they have the right to end my existence whenever they want. So what gives God the right?
@bharathsp8171
@bharathsp8171 4 года назад
Mann, this was actually SO disturbing to me...
@JanKwapis
@JanKwapis 3 года назад
One year ago I was a believer. When I saw these videos I finally realized that Christianity makes no sense. I'm so satisfied I don't believe in this PURE EVIL God anymore.
@akaniotevanos9861
@akaniotevanos9861 3 года назад
Having a personal belief in god is better than believing the god of organized religions.
@Mii.2.0
@Mii.2.0 3 года назад
@@akaniotevanos9861 Explain yourself.
@ninjatortise8958
@ninjatortise8958 3 года назад
I mean, just because somebody dies doesn't automatically they go to heaven though. If you went out of your way to kill an atheist and he never went out of his way to repent than he goes to hell. And, even if you say your Christian but don't go out of your way to truly, sincerely, believe in god you go to hell. And, even if you do truly believe God you could still go to hell because God has final say on whether or not you go to heaven or hell, if he decides your good doesn't out way your bad you go to hell. Also, your kind of missing the point the person who died have had friends and family they left behind on earth and they have to wait an entire lifetime to see them again. Also, the person who died wont have the opportunity to experience all the sights, sounds, feelings and sensations that you can only really experience being alive. Killing them would rob them of that.
@alexandrk.5052
@alexandrk.5052 6 лет назад
God’s Plan argument goes against free will. If God has a plan, then He already predetermined what you will do, thus, you are not acting on your own accord, you are acting according to what God already put into motion and His plan, so if you commit a sin, you aren’t doing it, God is doing it, so you can’t be held responsible for any action, thus negating the whole need for Jesus to die on the cross and any form of forgiveness.
@pyknicamv
@pyknicamv 6 лет назад
Alexandr K. u just made me question literally everything i know
@alexandrk.5052
@alexandrk.5052 6 лет назад
To be honest, I didn't even think anyone would read my comment being that this video is almost 3 years old, but I'm glad I can help someone.
@CoxyNormus
@CoxyNormus 6 лет назад
If everything happens because of God's plan, then does that mean that God got his own son killed?
@alexandrk.5052
@alexandrk.5052 6 лет назад
A. Grape Yes, because that was the plan from the start. Jesus comes down, lives 33 years, and dies to be the perfect sacrifice to wash humanity of their sins, but you can also say that God got himself killed because the more traditional sects believe that Jesus is God in human form for lack of better words.
@chrissonofpear3657
@chrissonofpear3657 6 лет назад
And then it remained somewhat messy, and still didn't answer about the origin of evil, or why satan used to be more a title (accuser) than an entity...
@Devster41
@Devster41 8 лет назад
Always love a new Darkmatter video. Love your vids!
@coleroper4393
@coleroper4393 8 лет назад
Hey pal, nice name. Loving the dark matter videos as well.
@jacobpatterson7276
@jacobpatterson7276 3 года назад
And who says that we need religion to have some existence after this one?
@dratinibrah
@dratinibrah 2 года назад
No one i think
@TheKermit2110
@TheKermit2110 3 года назад
“Do what I say, not as I do”. Sounds like a celestial dictatorship to me.
@deanholderde5959
@deanholderde5959 3 года назад
Sounds about right. Although to be fair it also is said a fair bit in real life.
@uhname3574
@uhname3574 6 лет назад
So if hate is sin and god hates sin that means god is a sinner and therefor isn't perfect.
@MaleficHuman
@MaleficHuman 5 лет назад
this was the dumbest comment bro if god has hate he would hate the devil witch would lead to him erasing the devil but no he does not therefore he does not hate dumb fuck he just let everything do as they please until judgement time
@ninototo1
@ninototo1 5 лет назад
@@MaleficHuman you sound like a triggered idiot
@josephkerr5018
@josephkerr5018 5 лет назад
@@MaleficHuman it's actually not the dumbest comment ever but your response is pretty close.
@avalonaiii7177
@avalonaiii7177 5 лет назад
bean bop SOMEBODY WHO WORSHIPS SKYDADDY CALLING SOMEBODY DUMB LMAO
@betrayu
@betrayu 5 лет назад
@@avalonaiii7177 I CHOKED
@BenMPMercer
@BenMPMercer 6 лет назад
“Look on the bright side, at least you get to keep your mind” That pretty much sums up why I would beg to go to hell if I ended up at heaven’s gates after death
@camelkingofthemediteranean949
@camelkingofthemediteranean949 6 лет назад
In hell you aour skin is ethernally burned away, recreated and burned away. Everything you hate will happen to yout ehre so i would not really wish to go to hell.
@derp8575
@derp8575 5 лет назад
@@camelkingofthemediteranean949 How do you know this information?
@ninototo1
@ninototo1 5 лет назад
@@derp8575 probably says so in some ancient book
@MrLukitha
@MrLukitha 5 лет назад
​@@camelkingofthemediteranean949 you'll get used to the pain after a few million years, hell is eternal anyway, right? and if god is "love", why would he create an immortal body for you to suffer for eternity if he already knew you would go to hell?
@canilo_7672
@canilo_7672 5 лет назад
@@MrLukitha dam thatd fucking deep
@gaagsl
@gaagsl 2 месяца назад
This is why the believer needs to consider these ideas and accept them without questioning. If you give yourself a small chance to think about this, you would find this doctrine revolting. The whole story of Jesus is hideous. They insist on calling the dead of an innocent man "justice" Redemption is actually, the suspension of justice.
@rujo2k
@rujo2k 2 года назад
In Hell:, "at least you get to keep your mind".🤣🤣🤣
@mrstrawhat9227
@mrstrawhat9227 7 лет назад
I can enjoy this channel so much more after ditching religion.
@doom694
@doom694 6 лет назад
@water tastes so good Well atleast youre a theist
@btdfw
@btdfw 5 лет назад
@water tastes so good Well it looks like you just made up your own religion. Congratulations.
@captainbearclaw1167
@captainbearclaw1167 5 лет назад
Ditching religion ditching your ticket to hevan
@arhamshahid5015
@arhamshahid5015 5 лет назад
@@btdfw it's kinda like Hinduism
@arhamshahid5015
@arhamshahid5015 5 лет назад
@@captainbearclaw1167 did you even watch the video .1 heaven is not real 2 if it is its dumb and you no longer have free will
@bigstank7638
@bigstank7638 8 лет назад
i thought lucy was satan
@Lucifer-iw1fr
@Lucifer-iw1fr 8 лет назад
Yea, me too.
@YaBoiDREX
@YaBoiDREX 8 лет назад
+poper Pooper It was just a random demon.
@bigstank7638
@bigstank7638 8 лет назад
ProfessorCrooks i didn't know that
@NoirpoolSea
@NoirpoolSea 8 лет назад
+poper Pooper I thought Lucy was Lucifer, the bringer of light. You know.. the old Promethius legend. He was punished by the gods for bringing fire to mankind.
@bigstank7638
@bigstank7638 8 лет назад
Jes.e B. isn't that a greek mythology
@thatoneguy2886
@thatoneguy2886 3 года назад
I love that Christianity still exists when the simple question "is killing bad?" Corners people into not being able to have god be what he says he is or to admit that one of his core commandments is meaningless
@cookiemons9097
@cookiemons9097 3 года назад
Not really, you can answer this question. I can try if you're willing to listen
@thatoneguy2886
@thatoneguy2886 3 года назад
@@cookiemons9097 the floor is yours? Though conversations can move somewhat slowly via youtube.
@cookiemons9097
@cookiemons9097 3 года назад
@@thatoneguy2886 okay, ill try my best :) There are a few times he messes up 0:40 Apparently according to this man, no one can sin in Heaven. There is no scripture in favor of this, so its safe to assume this brainwashing scene is a logical deduction rather than anything else. Also, yes, sin CAN exist in Heaven, Satan himself sinned in Heaven. God will just throw you out like He did with Lucifer. 1:30 You very well ARE yourself in Heaven. No one said Heaven would just wipe all your pain away. You'll probably still deal with grief for losing your loved ones. There are no happy pills in Heaven. Remember that God is ancient and does not change. He wont just magically take away all of the mourning you feel in Heaven, because thats a pretty modern idea, especially considering how God is likely more than trillions of years old and has seen a lot more pain than just grief. Basically, He knows you'll get over it as harsh as that sounds 4:02 Technically, murder is (usually) wrong just because it is. But God is the context of what "is". Think of it like this. God made His world. He is a perfect God, and cannot do imperfection (This is proven as there is no standard of perfection before Him and he, therefore, is the standard of perfection). What God says is good is preserving this perfection. That's why being homosexual is bad in the eyes of the Most High. A woman and man marrying is what is perfect and what is good. And straying away from this willfully is destroying this perfection, which is bad. Murder is bad, because you are destroying (at least in your context as a human) what is good. Life. And God made this life. All of this is contingent on what God is and makes. So its both. Murder is wrong because it is, but its objectively wrong because God made the objectivity of its wrongness. 4:15 this is foolish. The argument hinges on not truly understanding what it means to be the creator of existence. He create objectivity. What he says is objective, isn't arbitrary. He created the objective. If there was no objective there would be no idea of arbitrary for this argument to stand on. There has to be an objective for there to be an arbitrary. To call Gods claim of murder being wrong, "arbitrary" is saying there is objectivity higher than the literal Most High. That's false. He is the beginning. Therefore, He has the power to make objectivity, because if He couldn't, it would never exist. Lol, this sounded a lot more simple in my head, now that I explain it, it sounds way more complex. A lot of the bible is complex once you think about it. Like hell is a lot more complex than you think. 4:40 No idea. This is like asking who gave God His power and knowledge. How can he tell the future if we have the free will to make our own decisions? I have no idea. He's God though, so things can get really mind numbingly confusing trying to break it down. This doesn't disprove anything though, as I already described the satan, Jeffrey's question. Why did he give us free will? So we can love Him. Why does He want us to love Him so badly? I dont know. He just does; he for some reason finds it particularly important that His little ant people loves Him, which is kind of wholesome tbh
@cookiemons9097
@cookiemons9097 3 года назад
@@thatoneguy2886 5:17 This god character is a jerk. But God can technically kill someone and it not be bad. What is bad is contingent on what you can control. A person killing is bad (usually) because they cannot control the sould of that person and has destroyed the only thing they can. The intention of entirely destroying this person, even though they cant destroy the soul, makes it evil. God has power to destroy the soul. If He did, that would be evil. But He doesn't. He does destroy the flesh though, which is not the whole person, and arguably not them at all. This doesn't absolve God from hurting people though. I mean, technically He can murder and it not be bad, but its still really bogus. God has done some pretty horrible stuff (at least in our shortsighted view), and there is no debating that. But things like the flood, the killing of the Amelakites; stuff like that was justified, even though its was harsh and quite horrifying. If I could be God, I would've done things differently. But 1. We still don't understand the full context of His acts and if we were God and knew every path of reality caused by His decisions along with the full philosophical implications of distorting reality to suite empathy, who's to say we wouldn't do that same thing? Nothing. Trust me. We are way more shortsighted than this guy teaches you we are. And 2. What's the merit of calling God evil, if you arent going to change anything by doing so? There is no end but Him. Everyone will have to answer to Him in due time. This is not like overthrowing a dictator, no one can overpower Him. Literally, conceptually and entirely, no one can overthrow Him. No amount of complaining will end His power. He'll just be really hurt that you don't love Him.
@cookiemons9097
@cookiemons9097 3 года назад
@@thatoneguy2886 5:57 What is this guy talking about? When was it good to be godly? Satan thought that was good and now he's going to hell. God and humans have different roles from each other. We don't control justice, God does. We cant call Him a hypocrite for destroying evil. He has to do that in order for there to be justice. Lol, the god figure in this video himself, shut him up. 7:05 Now we have found a real question. Why is murder bad if they are just sending the victim to Heaven? 1. We arent sure if they'll go to Heaven, so the gamble on their eternity is deserving of calling it evil anyway. 2. Think of this idea. Gods plan is to save 10 people with 1 person who knows the truth and will eventually give the other 9 people the truth and way to eternal life. Then a murderer kills the 1 person who knew the truth. Now the 9 people are going to hell. This murderer unintentionally sent 1 person to Heaven, sure, but he also sent 9 people to hell. I think that's pretty evil. We don't know exactly how many people we are damning to eternal hellfire when we kill, so God just tells us not to do it. He still has to destroy evil though. That's why He never said "killing is wrong" he just said "don't do it". Yes you can be forgiven for murder, so technically the murder was not punished and was inconsequential. That's just the double sidedness of forgiveness. Would it have been better to just send all sinners to hell? Then we'd all burn in hell. I don't think you'd want that, and in fact you'd find this guy making a video about how evil God is for not giving anyone a chance at redemption. God can't win here, lol.
@lanascunt
@lanascunt 5 лет назад
I rather burn in hell than to live with someone that has killed my loved one.
@charliedilltarde9881
@charliedilltarde9881 5 лет назад
pffft, if you only comprehended that everytime you waste seed you have killed millions of babies.
@ilhesstz817
@ilhesstz817 5 лет назад
charlie Dilltardē no he hasn’t
@yotamkaspi8508
@yotamkaspi8508 8 лет назад
I hope that's just a random demon in Hell, you aren't changing Lucy's design are you?
@DarkMatter2525
@DarkMatter2525 8 лет назад
+mr box Lucy stays the same. It was a random demon
@insertcreativeusernamehere9132
+DarkMatter2525 oh good
@bestrafung2754
@bestrafung2754 6 лет назад
Eternity in Hell while still being myself and having free will? Eh, alright then. Hell isn't great but I'd get use to it after a while lol.
@xandror
@xandror 6 лет назад
That all depends on what level of hell you find yourself in. The parts of your mind that allow you to cope with suffering or get used to things can be taken away.
@MrDigztheswagking
@MrDigztheswagking 6 лет назад
I don't care eventually u would get bored of hell it make suck the first 200 years but after that you'll be like this shit is BORING
@xandror
@xandror 6 лет назад
You be could there 200 years but have no memory so every day would seem like the first. You may not even know who or what you are or why you exist at all except to suffer, no identity.
@xandror
@xandror 6 лет назад
This would be reserved for only the most evil and irredeemable of souls, not your run of the mill sinner.
@MrDigztheswagking
@MrDigztheswagking 6 лет назад
xandror where u getting this from
@malfaro3l
@malfaro3l 4 года назад
I remember getting sent to the office in grade school (I went to catholic school) for making the point that it didn’t sound like I would get to be “me” in heaven. I didn’t get an answer that day or any day thereafter. I still don’t get how theists don’t see the problem with their worldview.
@ninjatortise8958
@ninjatortise8958 3 года назад
I mean, just because somebody dies doesn't automatically they go to heaven though. If you went out of your way to kill an atheist and he never went out of his way to repent than he goes to hell. And, even if you say your Christian but don't go out of your way to truly, sincerely, believe in god you go to hell. And, even if you do truly believe God you could still go to hell because God has final say on whether or not you go to heaven or hell, if he decides your good doesn't out way your bad you go to hell. Also, your kind of missing the point the person who died have had friends and family they left behind on earth and they have to wait an entire lifetime to see them again. Also, the person who died wont have the opportunity to experience all the sights, sounds, feelings and sensations that you can only really experience being alive. Killing them would rob them of that.
@tochoXK3
@tochoXK3 5 лет назад
That unicorn vs knight fight on a rainbow was epic
@Freudianslip.
@Freudianslip. 6 лет назад
*gods plan starts playing
@Knevix711
@Knevix711 6 лет назад
She say "do you love me?" I tell her "only partly. I only love my son And my angels. I'm sorry."
@saeedbaig4249
@saeedbaig4249 5 лет назад
God: "I hold back, sometimes I wont." (floods the Earth)
@literallyglados
@literallyglados 5 лет назад
@@jacktincknell3233 Alexa play gods plan
@davidhatcher7016
@davidhatcher7016 5 лет назад
Haha
@ProgramViBee
@ProgramViBee 4 года назад
literallyGLaDOS She say “Fo you love me”
@nickyrichtofen
@nickyrichtofen 7 лет назад
Random black hole to erase everything you have XD I wish I had that
@rockybarry
@rockybarry 7 лет назад
I wish I had that for my browser history...
@1ksubsnocontentchallenge745
@1ksubsnocontentchallenge745 7 лет назад
Nicky Richtofen same
@DangerZone200
@DangerZone200 7 лет назад
i wish i had that for my room in general.........i mean if you had one of those blue lights to detect liquids it would just be just a mess over here -_-..............also i got big boxes of the worst porn imaginable :D
@miragic
@miragic 6 лет назад
That's the good ol' void, come on down to "Bill's reality destroyers" to get yours today!
@Matt-ec5jn
@Matt-ec5jn 6 лет назад
Rockybarry I was about write that
@LA-sz6yo
@LA-sz6yo 5 лет назад
This video is mind blowing, I never thought about it like that. Thank you for giving me other things to reflect upon
@imTEWcynical
@imTEWcynical 5 лет назад
This was one question I had an issue with giving a rebuttal to... Thanks DarkMatter! This is possibly the best way to refute a theist on the topic of murder.
@neurectoblaste9248
@neurectoblaste9248 8 лет назад
Was that the Invisible Pink Unicorn?
@admiralspire8867
@admiralspire8867 8 лет назад
Fuk IPU! Glory to the FSM! RAMEN PIRATES BROTHERS!!!!
@keesdenheijer7283
@keesdenheijer7283 8 лет назад
+Neurectoblaste Yes, peace be upon her!
@horatiotrismegistus616
@horatiotrismegistus616 8 лет назад
+Kees den Heijer And blessings!
@hannibalbarca8248
@hannibalbarca8248 8 лет назад
yeah my 19 billionth horse
@keesdenheijer7283
@keesdenheijer7283 8 лет назад
William Bailey That's only because it's impossible for you to see Her (PBUH). Anyone who sees Her and thus believes will be saved.
@tarasov9794
@tarasov9794 6 лет назад
* Scrolling through the comments looking for a triggered Christian to entertain myself *
@HullsColby
@HullsColby 6 лет назад
I'm triggered, change my mind.
@MaleficHuman
@MaleficHuman 5 лет назад
you wont get one because everything he said was false bro we have are own free will god did not plan anything its says dat in the bible but dont forget that about 95% is fake
@themartialartgod5425
@themartialartgod5425 5 лет назад
I will entertain
@themartialartgod5425
@themartialartgod5425 5 лет назад
God is a slaver and murder/ask why if u want to know how
@alexissaldana7683
@alexissaldana7683 5 лет назад
@@themartialartgod5425 Why?
@adelascotland
@adelascotland 3 года назад
I used this video in a research paper that examined the source of morality. I discussed the belief of murder held by theists and atheists. I did a questionnaire and the Christian’s believe me that murder was wrong because god said it was wrong, They believed when god killed someone it wasn’t murder They believed god is a prerequisite for morality
@albertskunik
@albertskunik 3 года назад
3:06 china
@Daniel-wr9ql
@Daniel-wr9ql 3 года назад
HAHAHHAHAHA god damnit your comment made my day
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 8 лет назад
I want a video game of God on horse vs pink unicorn on rainbow - someone make it happen!
@michaeliv284
@michaeliv284 8 лет назад
No one can beat the power of Flufflepuff
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 8 лет назад
wait - that unicorn should be invisible!
@michaeliv284
@michaeliv284 8 лет назад
thewanderandhiscomp Flufflepuff devours you all!
@michaeliv284
@michaeliv284 8 лет назад
***** No, Flufflepuff img02.deviantart.net/db8d/i/2013/166/b/7/fluffle_puff_wallpaper_by_brandatello-d696w1w.jpg
@maythesciencebewithyou
@maythesciencebewithyou 8 лет назад
+Deconverted Man I want a video where the Gods of Agard pummel Gaawd.
@alrickshaw2227
@alrickshaw2227 8 лет назад
well, I would rather keep my mind in hell than to be a mindless zombie in heaven cause to me, that is worse than death
@emmanuelnwogu3673
@emmanuelnwogu3673 8 лет назад
creating a shit scenario and then calling it shit is pretty stupid. ANd seriously the last point he made, that without god, people will see their only life more significantly knowing they don't have another chance, and also treat each other better because when you kill someone, you basically erase them and all appeal to emotion. That would make sense if only people who believed in god murders. or people who gives a fuck about the after life or there lack of. it seems pretty stupid to make a claim that people will treat each other better if they knew ones they die, thats it, when they still do it after eternal damnation has been promised to them. Sorry just rambling, but the first sentence was to you.
@jasonx7501
@jasonx7501 8 лет назад
That's hardly the point Darkmatters2525 was trying to make, nor did he make any such assertions. He is rightfully pointing out that because everything that happens is according to God's plan, then the whole debate on why murder is wrong is irrelevant so long as people believe God exists. If you still don't understand, then re-watch the video.
@emmanuelnwogu3673
@emmanuelnwogu3673 8 лет назад
JasonX i watched the video, and he made a claim that people would value their lives if they new they only have one life to live. And am saying its a stupid statement to make. around the 7 to 8 minutes mark. It only makes sense if killers cared about the afterlife or there lack of.
@christophercombs7561
@christophercombs7561 7 лет назад
ekelo ekete there is a reason to believe what darkmatter says is more accurate and less "stupid" check out the murder rates in majority secular countries like Japan Norway or any similar nation where religion plays a minor role in public discourse you will see he was more or less correct
@emmanuelnwogu3673
@emmanuelnwogu3673 7 лет назад
***** so you are telling me that of all things that could affect the trend of killings in this countries, you pick religion as the factor. Japan, the country running around Asia 60 yrs ago killing and raping their neighbors, Japan known for large number of suicide per yr is the people that value their life more because they know they only have one. Yeah right.
@VENOMdeVINO
@VENOMdeVINO 3 месяца назад
"I was thinking..." "That's probably not a good idea!"
@xplane6693
@xplane6693 4 года назад
As an Atheist, I love the Believers, but hate the beliefs.
@bestrafung2754
@bestrafung2754 4 года назад
As I have always said: I hate Judaism, Christianity and Islam for their evilness, but I don't have anything against individual Jews, Christians or Muslims.
@trippydippiehippie3958
@trippydippiehippie3958 4 года назад
Good on you, there's no reason to hate those who have been tricked into believing mindless bullshit. In fact we should help them.
@gaminggod2789
@gaminggod2789 6 лет назад
So If you go to heaven God gives you a drug that makes you happy for eternity no matter what but you lose your mind.Damn where did he get that drug.
@reneemerritt6572
@reneemerritt6572 5 лет назад
Gaming God, But that will not be true happiness.
@reneemerritt6572
@reneemerritt6572 5 лет назад
whomever chase after the Lord must denied heself. And beside the world ain't got true life for us. I believe that there is a greater purpose in this world than we have plan in your mind. I believe that there is a greater purpose and greater meaning in life.
@reneemerritt6572
@reneemerritt6572 5 лет назад
@Walt Whitman ok
@LadyOfTheEdits
@LadyOfTheEdits 5 лет назад
@@reneemerritt6572 I use to be a Christian
@DeMiTriDreams
@DeMiTriDreams 5 лет назад
@@LadyOfTheEdits yeah me too.. my iq was actually lower at the time lol.. when my IQ rose, my beliefs fell.. interesting isn't it? Haha.
@tcjak12
@tcjak12 8 лет назад
Darkmatter, is the power corrupts series going to continue?
@andrewtall2047
@andrewtall2047 8 лет назад
+Jack Jebediah I suspect it will as it lets him explore a different aspect to Yahweh, but those vids in particular take a long time to do as they are so detailed.
@kobron1559
@kobron1559 8 лет назад
Exactly he's definitely cooking the next one up..we just have to be extremely patient and be surprised one day lol quality over quantity 👍
@ericsbuds
@ericsbuds 8 лет назад
+Jack Jebediah I was just thinking about those videos. it makes watching these so much more interesting. genius. I would say the ones he made so far have explained enough.
@redthompson4927
@redthompson4927 8 лет назад
+Jack Jebediah DarkMatter2525 animates in mysterious ways
@willaville
@willaville 8 лет назад
+Jack Jebediah I second the motion
@tehvespy5578
@tehvespy5578 5 лет назад
I've literally had all these thoughts from all your videos as a little kid and still think about it to this day. It's good to see someone who had the exact same thoughts
@RaynorsProphet
@RaynorsProphet 4 года назад
"Look on the bright side, atleast you get to keep your mind" was amazing. That ending was so well written, I am loving this channel more and more wow.
@pineapplefarmer7352
@pineapplefarmer7352 8 лет назад
Gotta love that double bass drum as the camera pans down to hell.
@pineapplepenumbra
@pineapplepenumbra 7 лет назад
Yup!
@TheNakedAtheist
@TheNakedAtheist 8 лет назад
One problem I've always had with the "thou shall not murder" commandment is that what constitutes murder is subjective. How can a theist claim that murder is objectively wrong when by definition what constitutes "unlawful killing" (murder) is based on man made laws which aren't consistent from country to country, or generation to generation. Essentially saying murder is immoral is like saying immoral killing is immoral. Their God never defines under what actual circumstances killing equals murder. As societies we (including theists) base that determination on our subjective consensus.
@manamaster6
@manamaster6 8 лет назад
+TheNakedAtheist I don't remember the exact verse, but in the Bible you can read how murder is justifiable if you do it to defend your nation or something of the sort. Luckily, they weren't that intelligent to make it bulletproof so now we can pinpoint this loopholes.
@TheNakedAtheist
@TheNakedAtheist 8 лет назад
+manamaster6 "I don't remember the exact verse, but in the Bible you can read how murder is justifiable if you do it to defend your nation or something of the sort." And in other cases it's justifiable to kill gays, adulterers or even disobedient children, but they will argue those are no longer justifiable killings. Of course groups like Isis have different opinions, and believe they are following God's objective morality as well.
@hameythehamster
@hameythehamster 8 лет назад
+TheNakedAtheist Scary subject isn't it? Maybe just to me.
@kurvos
@kurvos 8 лет назад
+TheNakedAtheist Killing is bad... and wrong. There should be a new more powerful word for killing, like, badwrong... or, badong. Yes. Killing is badong. From this day and forth, I shall stand for the opposite of killing... gnodab.
@msihcs8171
@msihcs8171 8 лет назад
+kurvos Swinging a chain, swinging a chain? ok this is getting off topic but that's one of my favorite movies
@barnabybarnips2710
@barnabybarnips2710 4 года назад
“God works in mysterious ways.” - Every theist ever
@ninjatortise8958
@ninjatortise8958 3 года назад
I mean, just because somebody dies doesn't automatically they go to heaven though. If you went out of your way to kill an atheist and he never went out of his way to repent than he goes to hell. And, even if you say your Christian but don't go out of your way to truly, sincerely, believe in god you go to hell. And, even if you do truly believe God you could still go to hell because God has final say on whether or not you go to heaven or hell, if he decides your good doesn't out way your bad you go to hell. Also, your kind of missing the point the person who died have had friends and family they left behind on earth and they have to wait an entire lifetime to see them again. Also, the person who died wont have the opportunity to experience all the sights, sounds, feelings and sensations that you can only really experience being alive. Killing them would rob them of that.
@beth-rg8bm
@beth-rg8bm Год назад
Why does there have to be an existence of a god or god's in order to have an afterlife? Who and when did they determine that this was an absolute truth that the only way to have an afterlife was to believe in a god?
@ethancornelius7163
@ethancornelius7163 8 лет назад
hell seems better than heaven.
@ethancornelius7163
@ethancornelius7163 8 лет назад
and the devil seems cool to.
@reizel8204
@reizel8204 8 лет назад
lol
@helloihavedepressionyethan1066
Facepalm
@InfernalLeo777
@InfernalLeo777 8 лет назад
It's Pretty Sp00ky.
@pineapplepenumbra
@pineapplepenumbra 8 лет назад
In Hell there will be nothing but gambling, loose women, cool music, interesting colour schemes, intellectual debate, free thinkers, in short, all the things discouraged by organised religion. In Heaven there will be nothing but endless praising of the most narcissistic being in the Universe. Choose carefully, mortals!
@LarlemMagic
@LarlemMagic 8 лет назад
5:34 When god kills its more "farming" than "murder"
@andrewtall2047
@andrewtall2047 8 лет назад
+LarlemMagic Given that the world is allegedly due to end within the lifetime of those who hear the message of Jesus, in the theistic view murder is more like giving you some of god's personal attention before he gets swamped with the mass market crowd, or you 'leaving early to avoid the rush'.
@NavnikBHSilver
@NavnikBHSilver 8 лет назад
+LarlemMagic ... that would mean that if you kill someone, that'd be the equivalent of doing the harvesting for someone else.
@LarlemMagic
@LarlemMagic 8 лет назад
Navnik BHSilver Why do *I* have to be the theoretical murderer?
@BosonCollider
@BosonCollider 8 лет назад
+LarlemMagic Damn, well you opened one big can of worms. Is it inherently wrong for a cow to kill another cow? Is it inherently wrong for us to kill a cow in order to eat it, and does the fact that the cows wouldn't exist if not for us matter? Of yes to both, is either more wrong than the other?
@LarlemMagic
@LarlemMagic 8 лет назад
BosonCollider *shrug* I am currently enjoying this casserole however.
@craigedwards2411
@craigedwards2411 3 года назад
This episode was rather sad.. especially the last few moments of them two dudes on the swing thingy without a recollection about who they where or what they did. Black Mirror episode should be made based on this :)
@rjspiteri5758
@rjspiteri5758 Год назад
I feel like if heaven is as the bible describes, essentially people stripped of their free will and forced to worship god for eternity and like it, then the best torture for compassionate people is to force people there to watch their loved ones in heaven while they remain free in hell.
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