Why Is The Day Before SUCH A SCAM?! 

hello

I’ll give you some of mine

OUCH.

That’s crazy

Hi, Act Man

@@Mr_breast_giveaway i just report you for spam

well they do, they change name and come up with new scam

​@@djmerlin2good job he's gone

They died and then rose to scam again, under a different name. This shit was a work from the very beginning.

Both the ASSET AND COMPANY its Died

It wasnt even unfinished homework, it was just EMPTY homework

Me on the last day of summer when my book report is due the next day and I haven't read shit

Hey listen bro my crumpled algebra assignment to Mr Phillips was more well put together than this….mostly

@@TheActMan Relatable

I feel like the ones I’ve rushed are more complete than this

😂

It was a Quiet Man level of timing.

It’s like they heard about all these shitty games and thought “hey, let’s do something even worse”

I Heard that you can actually Play redfall now, No execuse for companys releasing unfinished Games and fixing them in 1-2 year slowly with Patches... Its Just a Trend now except for a Few examples Like Elden Ring, gow Rag and a few Others but alot companys Just Release Games 60% finished baerly playable and then Patch it over the time, so lazy and dumb man

They probably thought they already won and got cocky knowing they didn't need to make an effort to maintain the facade anymore.

@@Verociity most likely, though they could also just be woefully incompetent

"S___ happens, you know?" -AI Napoleon Bonaparte

GOTTEM!

That's not saying much.

Not hard to improve on garbage

That's not true. Devs worked pretty hard and were abused by 2 absolute morons on CEOs. The Gotovtsev brothers were sabotaging project non-stop, changing plans every day, while shitting on all employees and making their life miserable.

Now if he would put some work into a Payday 3 video.

Or a bunch of idiots in a studio that used ai garbage to develop garbage. Probably from Russia or China becsuse they didn't care about ripping off anything.

You could be unto something

“We trained AI to develop and code a video game from scratch and it made the most homogenized, bland, unplayably-broken shooter anyone has ever seen. How could this have gone wrong?”

That would be interesting

just the fac that its all pre built assets & dialogue that sounds so stiff and robotic to the marketing copying others identically would make this claim VERY plausible in all honesty ... Have AI do all your work & run away with the profits before anyone knows what even happened

Just not on The Escapist...

*Day Before dev detected*

too bad that didn't work out lmao

@@sunbleachedangel There are exceptions where even if you go beyond the two hours/two-week mark for the refund policy would still grant a refund, those exceptions would be cases like "The Day Before." since the backlash that would then happen to Steam as a platform wouldn't be worth the PR nightmare of trying to deny people their money back if what they bought was nothing but lies.

I have returned stuff with more than 2 hours of gameplay plenty of times

@@cursedhawkins1305 yeah, that what I meant, if I'm not mistaken, the only other time that happened ever was No Man's Sky but I probably forgot something

If thata the craziest thing, you must have an extremely limited world view.

In all fairness, the game was released with a HUGE BANNER that said EARLY ACCESS aka The game is not finished yet but you have to chance to buy it now and play as is. You always take a risk with games like that.

@@michaelmonteon34”Early Access” All assets are from the Unreal Store

​@@michaelmonteon34in all honesty I was hoping more people would look into the company and see the eight years of shady releases and dealings and just turn around immediately.

Ayo who defended this😂😂😂

This whole mess is the modern gaming's take on the story of the Tortoise and the Hare. Slow and steady work will bear great fruit enjoyed by most whilst fleeting will make you pure shame and stoking the burning flames than anything else.

Ba dump. Ching! :D

4 days before...

Dude seriously I had the exact same thought seeing everything they said before launch and the promos, Skynet in its true form

That's simple. They've borrowed too much money and trying to pay what they can. Interest is racking up and no one is getting paid anymore. That's why they released it. Better to suffer criticism than be so far in debt you have to throw the game away and work to pay it off without making a single dollar. Anybody would do this. Imagine if you borrowed $1million and 5 years later the interest starts to add up to $3million and the game isn't close to being finished. You got to hope this game sells over $4million due to all fees to sell the game on platforms. Are you going to wait another 2-3 years when the debt gets around $8million and having to hope you can sell 200k copies(gotta include hidden fees)?

@@la8ball They didn't make any money from this. Steam keeps the money for 30 days and it was removed from Steam way before the 30 days mark or whatever.

Should be top comment

Gotovci? Are they russian? I thought they from Singapore

​@@TenomasYes. They are Russian. I don't even know if the actual studio is in Singapore. Look for an article called 'I tried visiting The Day Before developer Fntastic’s offices in Singapore, and this is what I found' Here's an excerpt from it. "The truth, however, is a lot more mundane. Having found their business address via Singapore’s Accounting and Corporate Regulatory Authority (ACRA), I popped by their office, which was located inside a mixed retail space in Balestier, an area in the central region of Singapore. I tried looking for the company’s name at the tenant directory, only to discover it was a co-op working space. Since that was the case, I figured there was no harm to head up to look around. I had also planned to check in with the other tenants should staff from Fntastic not be around. Alas, I was greeted by the co-op’s cheerful centre manager, who told me that Fntastic merely used the co-op’s address as a virtual office space. That possibly rules out having staff here who were working on the game. I also looked up their original address based on their filings via Google Maps, which puts them in Peninsula Plaza. However a quick check online in the building’s online directory showed no such tenant. Instead, the original address belongs to a management consultancy."

​@@Tenomas They are. And it turns out, they only have offices in singapore to grift for allowances from Singapore Government, no ones actually there 😂

⁠​⁠​⁠@@TenomasEduard and Aysen Gotovciv. And if being precise - from Yakutia, Republic of Sakha. But yeah, they registered their company in Singapore for…multiple reasons honestly which I won’t number here, but in short - it was done to ease the activity for the company on global market

Wow you watched the vid too?

my condolance to anyone that got the game outside of steam... somehow

Common steam W ​@@ArariaKAgelessTraveller

​@@ArariaKAgelessTraveller I bought it at walmart

💀💀💀

I know this is a joke, but... this irks me. Because in all honesty, the Payday 3 beta didn't really look so bad. It was fun and it worked well, it's not like anyone could've exactly known that it'd release in the state it did. Suspect it, maybe. But absolutely know? No. And Payday 3 wasn't a straight up scam, it was just a scuffed release like most games nowadays.

It's easy to trash a game when you are not being paid to overhype it

Well say after should have sponsored him that way he could have a different opinion to the audience.

@@nathanaeldiegofariassantos4926 What do you mean nowadays? Granted I don’t play as many games as I’d like too but I watch my sons play and they look pretty amazing Growing up in the 80s and 90s. Nearly every game you rented was dog shit. Hell in the 00s as well. Now people say it’s a scam when the game is shitty?

Well, what can you expect from the studio that used the hype FOR The Day Before since its announcement to make other games like Propnight, because that was made by the same studio if not the same developers as The Day Before as well.

To be fair - most scammers don't feel ashamed. That's why they're scamming to begin with. They don't give a fuck.

Fntastic studios reminds me of Fantastic from Fallout New Vegas

They didn't "take the money" though. Act Man covered that in this video. Steam takes upwards of 60 days to pay out, and since Steam keeps their 30% cut from every sale even when a game is refunded, Fantastic will be lucky to get anything from the sales of this game. Even if only 70% of all purchases were refunded, they'd still get $0 since the remaining unreturned sales would go towards paying steam their 30% for all the returned copies. Steam would just deduct that money from their account.

They didn't take any money though, steam waits a month before they pay you.

Nah, I would not call The Day Before the entire circus but rather the Bayeux Tapestry of everything wrong with the Triple A market in general.

At least 'clown' is a legitimate profession

Nah, that's the people who believed the devs and even defended the game

Not even the whole circus. It's the fucking industry.

Ace Attorney reference moment

To be fair. Those investors could be assholes.

Yeah and Ubisoft is behind it

​@@FlamespeedyAMVreal

What marketing? These guys didn't do any research for a target audiance. Ooohhhh, you mean advertising. A minor facet of marketing...

I'm convinced this entire game was a product of AI in its entirety.

​@@Overlord277🤓

TRUE! Although I don't know how fast that studio dissolved

oh that was 100% a scam, the culling 2 was a silent release PUBG clone made out of unreal engine assets, it got around 1000 players for 30 minutes, everyone quit, then only around 5 people were playing for the rest of the uptime reason people quit so fast is that it was literally impossible to win a match because the game didn't work, that was a massive scam but nowhere on this level, FNTASTIC had a shit ton of players, marketing etc

Cant forget when the culling 2 devs charged people to literally play more then 2 times a day with "Purchasable Spawn Tokens"

It's such a shame too, the first culling was actually super fun to watch, idk about playing but I remember watching and thinking it was really cool. I didn't see a single gameplay video of the culling 2, the only videos about it are how bad it is and how fast it failed, you literally can't even get into a game because there's only 1 player, the person making the video.

@@Destinylover14wait it was a scam, wasn’t it made by the same people who made the culling and didn’t they apologise for making the culling 2

Didnt they fixed it?

Payday 3 is overpriced, but I'd hardly call it a scam lmfao

Payday 3 definitely is not a scam. It's release was just scuffed like most games these days. And I'd argue that TheActMan shouldn't be bashed for that video since... well, he played only the beta. I played the beta myself and I can confirm the game was pretty fun and good, I didn't think that with how it was it'd release in such a poor state. Suspect it? Maybe. But absolutely know? No. If he were to review the game positively after the launch, the criticisms would be more valid.

@@Timeward76 why is the day after a scam? Isn’t it a beta early release meaning it’s u finished and update before the actual release as games do to raise money? Just because a game is shit doesn’t mean it’s a scam.

Did you even bother to watch any of the dozens of videos about it? My God, you people are hopeless. ​@@oldironsides4107

If i remember correctly steam gives them an "allowance" and its only once a month or weekly based on sales due to taxes and their cut So yeah hilariously funny

They were avoiding getting sued that's it

saw some people commented on their videos and according to them, they might be after some russian government benefits or something to get money by pretending to have "a company", which makes sense when you remember that they only hire volunteers, means they can get the money and not paying their workers because they are volunteers and why it took so long to finish such an embarrassingly empty game while also not needing to actually put up a crowdfunding in the first place to prevent legal actions

I think they will be back again after changing company name, they didnt complete their objective. Keep your eyes open

@@DameWhoGames623 oh for sure. This us their 5th or 6th scam. They will definitely be back. Can't wait.

I'm not sure if they will understand the sarcasm. You deserve a candy bar.. A PAYDAY Peanut and Caramel Candy Bar perhaps 3 of them. PAYDAY peanut and caramel candy bars are a delectable treat right for almost any occasion.

Payday 3 is a scam? Had no idea.

The Payday 3 beta didn't really look so bad(the version he played). It was fun and it worked well, it's not like anyone could've exactly known that it'd release in the state it did. Suspect it, maybe. But absolutely know? No. And Payday 3 wasn't a straight up scam, it was just a scuffed release like most games nowadays. Payday 3 is nowhere near as bad as The Day Before and you're coping *hard* if you actually think that.

I hate weird looking glitches too just makes my skin crawl🤣

Now that you say this, I might have the same thing.

​@@kingpeso4240now imagine someone glitching in real life. NOW WHAT

@@FrozenPantiezzz imma freak out to lmao video games tend to mirror real stuff so that might be why Cause if you ever played or looked at WWE 2k20 that was insane

Hey to be fair they weren't calling out to people, they were calling out to a (one) person.

My sincere condolences to the lost of your father. May he rest in peace.

Everybody losing their fathers I lost mines as well

That's how I feel about the dogshit sequel to Tales from the Borderlands; my dad loved the first Tales from the Borderlands, and he was considering trying it out not long before he died. Seeing somebody rant on it, I'm glad he missed it.

@@angelabryant9766 I’m sorry about your pops. I hope he’s resting easy.

R.I.P to your dad… But Atleast he isn’t disappointed when it released.

you're overthinking it. They're just scammers. This was a scam from the very beginning. What is surprising is people still falling for it after so many red flags

This is Skeletor level villainy

The real enemy is anyone who bought it.

I did. Sorry guys, i was hungry

​@beenguy5887 it's OK lizzy just look at the flowers

sounds like a great opportunity for Naughty Dog to release TLOU factions if only they didnt cancelled the game. i mean all this hype built by Day Before was to go somewhere

Using assets isn't a problem or sign of a bad game. Not disclosing that you are using those assets and being dishonest is however bad.

The fact that it graphically looks good says a lot of UE and epic should be proud

Unfortunately the game itself looks as any UE survival shovelwares saturating the market in early access.

I'd like to see a list of things that AREN'T assets lol

They should have sponsored a video, and Actman would have loved it. Throwing his mask on and shilling hard lmao

​@@Jared-e Just stop🤦🏻

​@@Jared-e nice

@@mikehawk2235 Sponsor my comment and I’ll stop

@@Jared-e this comment sounds insecure

What moderators dude? It was a bunch of 15 year olds and absolute morons that moderated the discord. None of them were professionals or fit for the position they occupied in the first place.

Poor bastards deserve much better. I'd honestly leave this off my resume

moderators for what?

The Act Man would have a lot of insight into scamming being one himself. The Act Man is a deceitful piece of work that doesn't care about games or his fans, but only money. What a shallow piece of work Act Man is, he's so low he swims with the scammers.

So they'll easily find new work then since a lot of them companies do this nonsense.

They also went on a massive tirade about fact checking and misinformation, but on that asset tweet the community notes pointed at the link full of every single asset they flipped.

Who is going to say? Russians who signed NDA with these two yakut clowns?

I don’t think college is the right analogy since at least with college you have to be willing to go there, the devs weren’t even willing to make an asset in their game

These guys did the equivalent of copy-pasting an entire Wikipedia article, and praying no one notices.

I guess they really did make the entire game... The day before

​@rd2680 I briefly worked for a company that literally did that for their training manual. In fact, it was such a shit job. When they printed out the manual some sentences were underlined, which happens when it is a hyperlink. The parts they actually did write were not even ran through a spell check. Or ever reread. They spelled a person's last name three different ways in two paragraphs. I was let ho after pointing out what a shit job of plagiarism it was and was part of the reason they had a 90% turn over rate.

I would say its more equivalent to scrambling to make a presentation "the day before" you were supposed to present and instead of actually presenting the shit show you send it to your teacher and while they're just flabbergasted looking through this garbage you immediately drop out to avoid the embarrassment

The "apology" they put out gaslit harder than a disappointed Asian parent

​@GH0STST4RSCR34M Apparently not. The one example that comes to mind is way back when Bioware was developing Kotor the character of Bastila Shan was originally supposed to be Vima Sunrider a character who first appeared in the Tales of the Jedi comics in the 90s. However the name Sunrider was trademarked and copyrighted by somebody else in a completely different field, Bioware tried to fight this and lost so we got Bastila instead.

@@GH0STST4RSCR34M Copyright is about protecting an original work. Meaning a physical or digital product created by a person. If a person takes code from or assets made for a game and uses it for their own product that is copyright infringement. Trademark is meant to protect a brand or name from market confusion. For example the Coca Cola logo is trademarked. Nobody else can call their company Coca Cola or produce a label that even looks vaguely similar due to that trademark protection. Trademarks must be registered for specific market segments and the word(s) chosen must *not* be seen as overly broad. Apple was only allowed to register "Apple" for trademark because they registered it specifically for the tech industry. This is why made up words are often the best for trademark as they can be registered for multiple market segments and have little difficulty holding when challenged. This is why the South Korean calendar app developer lost the court case. They registered the trademark for like all industries. Which normally would never stand up to like even the smallest challenge from anybody. But since nobody challenged that developer during the period of time a trademark application is allowed to be challenged, it went through. FNTASTIC argued that their game would not cause brand confusion for the calendar app and the South Korean court ruled in their favor. Intellectual property law across countries is always complicated because a lot of the time it comes down to honor rules. China often ignores US copyright and trademark and there's nothing much the US can do about it.

Another fun fact about trademark, at least for US Trademark law, is that a trademark *must* be maintained. If an entity does not challenge or sue people attempting to use their trademark, the trademark is seen as abandoned and is fair game. There's also the case when a brand name becomes too ubiquitous and therefore can no longer be trademarked. Hoover and Kleenex are two famous examples of this. Hoover basically became the default name for "vacuum cleaner" is a lot of countries (especially the UK) and Kleenex became synonymous with tissue paper. Google actually fought extremely hard to allow their name to stay trademarked despite their company name becoming the de-facto verb for searching for something on the internet.

Equal parts fascinating and baffling.

@@GH0STST4RSCR34M It depends on how the trademark is registered regarding how it can be used. If a trademark is registered for like everything then it doesn't matter what other industry wants to use the term, they can't. As for trademarks registered in other countries, like I said, it's an honor system. Technically a trademark only needs to be registered once and other countries *should* honor that trademark within their own countries even if the trademark isn't registered within their country. The reason for that is international trade. If a foreign company wants to do business in the US, which has a massive economy, they are expected to follow US law for any business done within the country. So if a small computer company wants to call themselves Apple in Sweden, if they plan on doing *any* business within the United States, then they are expected to follow US trademark law and would not be allowed to call themselves Apple. If a company only plans on doing business within their country and not internationally then it's harder for any foreign country to sue. It is for that reason larger companies will sometiems register trademarks in different countries, but they don't have to. In The Day Before's example, FNTASTIC did not register a trademark for that name in any country. But the South Korean app developer registered a trademark for the name in South Korea. But the app is sold on app stores Internationally. Meaning any country which wishes to do business in South Korea needs to uphold that trademark. Valve does business in South Korea even though they are a US company and so they followed the South Korean trademark dispute and delisted the game. FNTASTIC works out of Russia but is incorporated in Shanghai. Since they listed their game on Valve's storefront they have to abide by Valve's rules which means following international trademark laws. This is why they went to South Korean court to fight the trademark and not like some court in Russia.

Honestly this year was probably one of the best and worst year for videogames we had so many game announcements yet so much trash

From abandoning games, to abandoning a studio

This was the year of scams

nice

Great person and it's great video🎥👍👍

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Yeah hard-core on my tolerance

Nice

how long ago did that dev quit? reminds me of some other scams where high level people leave before they get caught.

@@Verociity it was around 2021-2022 like a few months after they dropped the trailer and mainstream media starting talking about it (I didn’t like it cause it looked like a cheap version of the division with zombies), I don’t remember why but the dev said that they quit and that it was all “unfinished” they weren’t getting paid enough some other shit, there was a RU-vid video talking about it so I might try to find and link it

they spended all that money on the game just to quit. Idk I think they should’ve work on the game to make it better

I remember dodging the game as soon as the environmentally controlled trailer has car physics competing of Mudrunner on an MMO openworld.

Frfr 😂😂

Unfortunately nobody is beating Karl Marx

No, that goes to religion.

It is a guinness world record for worst scam attempt...in my heart lol

@@xer0c I mean, I guess but at least religion is under the guise of pretending like they actually want to help people while they sit in their golden palace lol

What happens after? They promise all the poor rich kids refunds and season passes. Years later, I get a PS5 and play a great game then pay for the DLC just like all those that cried from happiness and then from sadness on Christmas whilst still having a dad. Yes, I got to enjoy Cyberpunk and the Netflix series while many of learning you'd pay for the new DLC started getting rough around the hedges again. Day 1 was over 700 of me trying to get a PS5 so I'm sorry if your parents loved you and you caught the CDeez Project Ded: John Wild Stallions.

It delivered scams

😂​@@sleepisthecousinofdeath7395

They wanted to pull the rug but were too stupid to realise Steam has a protection to a certain degree regarding such schemes.

Why wouldn't you expect this? Major gaming drama. This is right up act mans alley. You must not watch act man.

@@joshchaplin3705 not really lmao. All he covers is COD, Halo, Diablo and fromsoft. With the exception of a few other controversial games. This game is so far off the mark of his content that if wouldn't be expected. He also liked the comment which goes to show. "You must not watch the act man". One of us is a member, the other isn't. Figure it out chief.

@shoobydoo he has multiple videos relating to scam/shit/bad games. He hops on trending drama with games. Also I don't believe in God, but relating to what you said. Just because you donates money to the church doesn't make you any more godly than me.

​@@joshchaplin3705 Lol he edited the comment to get rid of him pushing his religion.

Remember Identity RPG game?

won't even be remembered in a few years

"The best survival experience this year!" *Commits dishonorable Seppuku*

You should check put chronicles of elyria then lol

The ones who should be sued for fraud aren't the devs - it's the owners, the Gotovtsev brothers Gotovtsevs don't even understand what a video game is, all they wanted was money and fame gained from cheap labor of junior-level devs They didn't even allow the devs to release a big, major patch just because big streamers like Dr. Disrespect were streaming the game

Imagine joining the server and this is the first thing you see

@@Alex-gg9ht yeah that discord server was wild as fuck mate

It's not even bankrupt They only changed their name to continue scamming

It's all a lie. Don't believe anything they say.

Yeah which means that we need to fight much harder to prevent that from happening. Since it's going to wreck all media as a sort of disaster point, like the Great Depression. Or honestly, let it happen but have the Indie scene be the savior of media.

Indie is already the savior, modern games are ass.

could be good thing if the "scam" dev market got oversaturated. since everything will be so monotone and nobody will buy it, in result games with good quality shines

It’s already happened to Netflix and major movies.

@@zzzzz-em2jpidk man, people still fall for gacha games

Identity RPG

Reminds me of my unity project with bootleg assets, and tomorrow was it's deadline.

I don't know why it's so hard for most gamers to be at least a little skeptical, especially when games nowadays are regularly released unfinished and filled half-full with lootboxes and slot machines. Like, you CAN be a fan of something and still criticize it out of a faith that the game can be good.

I had it on my wishlist because it looked interesting from the trailers. Probably less than 1% of the people that wishlisted this game ended up buying it.

So….theres more too it. They had investors including business grants from Singapore to encourage commerce. They likely committed fraud and got away with it there and delivered a product to satisfy businesses. At minimum, they got a steady stream of money to enjoy during the projects 5 year span, putting out just enough to keep investors interested. At the end, they will still get money from thise who dont refund. They sold over 1.3+million copies. Even if 80% of people refund its very possible 20% dont and they still make 1-2 mil.

@@notatrollll Interesting, I didn’t think about that

I'm hoping they absolutely sued to hell for this because if they do get away with it, it's gonna become a framework for future scam games/projects

Gullible folks will buy it

That’s gonna be hard to prove in court

Good luck suing a russian