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Why is the Mortar so important in battle? 

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Mortars are vital to troops on the ground and will always be needed in battlefield. Let's talk about these impressive weapon systems.
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Soldiers conduct fire missions with 120mm mortars as part of military exercises. Clips include - mortar tube calibration, mortar fire, loading of shells.

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@_Matsimus_
@_Matsimus_ 5 лет назад
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@_Matsimus_
@_Matsimus_ 5 лет назад
Brian Leuthauser Lol thanks 👍
@jacklees7497
@jacklees7497 5 лет назад
can you do a vid about 11EOD regt or EOD in the britsh army in genral please
@maxwell92027
@maxwell92027 5 лет назад
It’s a very specialized weapon. It’s good because being able to suppress enemy Forces is A key in combat. I don’t see why we would get rid of such a weapon. Being able to suppress enemy troops is a great advantage two friendly troops. My coworker is an Army ranger he was deployed more than once I could see why a mortar would be a great advantage to a unit. He was deployed to multiple countries. I would like to mortars deployed more often for the security of US and NATO troops. I feel like Mortars could be deployed on a squad level that means infantry would have to carry more ammunition but it could save the lives of numerous soldiers on the battlefield. I think we could improve our military effectiveness if we deployed these weapons on a squad level seeing as these weapons are very useful in saving lives not necessarily taking lives. They do final enemy troops into a kill box which makes it easier for Friendly troops to illuminate or capture enemy troops in the kill box. I think capturing enemy troops is a very important move.
@maxwell92027
@maxwell92027 5 лет назад
Matsimus The they’re good for suppressive fire, not accurate. Even with a ten digit grid, the best it will do is fuck up the area in which they are bunkered down in. But for the most part that is the intent. Once the barrage is over they will push forward and into a kill zone, or they will die in the blasts. It’s a tactic vs a solution. Not an end game. “ words of an army ranger”
@make_m_finland
@make_m_finland 5 лет назад
Nice video! :) ...here one more (120 mm )mortal squad performance.... (fire start about 01:00 ---> ) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jFsYfOi42Mc.html
@TheIamfrustrated
@TheIamfrustrated 5 лет назад
Infantry: “I’ve got a bullet with your name on it.” Machine Gunner: “I’ve got a bullet with your name on it and I’m gonna keep firing until I find it.” Sniper: “Surprise!” Mortar man: “Group discounts for groups of five or more.”
@Harshhaze
@Harshhaze 4 года назад
Nuclear Submarine Captain: "I'm about to fuck up global climate"
@sstritmatter2158
@sstritmatter2158 4 года назад
Artillery - Pallet discount and 25% off for truck loads.
@ark-mark1
@ark-mark1 4 года назад
don't get frutrated, get even
@TheTariqibnziyad
@TheTariqibnziyad 4 года назад
The Sun : I am going to end this Solar system's whole career.
@luckent47
@luckent47 4 года назад
this is the shit i'm talking about. when we learned call for fire it was all to the charlies first. the arty fo and the air liaison weren't even part of it. plus we had four deuce which is practically arty
@typicalperson8206
@typicalperson8206 5 лет назад
From what I heard from my dad, it’s a fun and games until you had to carry one.
@nickhahn5412
@nickhahn5412 5 лет назад
Typical person or jump with the baseplate
@scottbruner9987
@scottbruner9987 5 лет назад
Or be on the downrange side of things
@NeonBoxNado
@NeonBoxNado 5 лет назад
The tube and baseplate isnt TOO terribly bad, but the rounds are a nightmare to hump for long distances. That's why your bring Rifleman on your marches they carry the rounds cause they gonna be the ones asking for them when the ish hits the fan.
@MrSolLeks
@MrSolLeks 5 лет назад
I own a demilled M29 81mm from korea / vietnam in my collection. If I ever find a place that I can shoot it im going to NFA and re-arm it... but until then, it sits as a display. Even my demilled HE round is quite heavy for its size and could not imagine having to carry a handful of those fully loaded in containers. The mortar itself is not too bad, the few times I have moved it I took it down but if I need to move my display, I typically just pick up the entire thing (note, the barrel is cut in half with torch/weld marks making it inoperable, but it also has some bent metal plate inside the tube to keep it in 'one peace' for the display making it heavier than if it was live) and it is still not too bad. I would guesstimate it is less than 150 lbs (bipod + barrel + base plate) so I can imagine that it is not too bad in individual peaces, more bulky weight than real weight. Picture - i.imgur.com/N2iSORZ.jpg
@Alligator932
@Alligator932 5 лет назад
exactly!
@ericmyrs
@ericmyrs 5 лет назад
Mortars break the engineers triangle, by being good, fast AND cheap!
@Quicksilver_Cookie
@Quicksilver_Cookie 4 года назад
Also, unsurprisingly one of the most primitive weapons in the arsenal of any army. If it ain't broke - don't fix it.
@maxiona714
@maxiona714 Год назад
Yes, but they lack range, and that breaks the artilleryman's square.
@thatfatguyinmcdonaldseatin6389
@@maxiona714 they are made for the infantry teams not the arty
@dianapennepacker6854
@dianapennepacker6854 Год назад
Simple, reliable, and easy to use.
@colincampbell4261
@colincampbell4261 Год назад
Mounted on a truck with a thermal image drone spotter team could be very efective and very mobile.
@vintageyamahasquid
@vintageyamahasquid 5 лет назад
As someone who has been on the receiving end of mortars I can tell you that it is absolutely terrifying and very effective. Anyone who says they are obsolete has never had to run from incoming mortar fire.
@JiaruiChen_
@JiaruiChen_ Год назад
Lol u cant see the results of round
@BruceMyersLBZ
@BruceMyersLBZ Год назад
Yep. TQ, oif 2.5.
@edgarvalderrama1143
@edgarvalderrama1143 Год назад
If I remember correctly (WWII) mortar fire killed more than artillery,
@senrab99
@senrab99 Год назад
@@BruceMyersLBZ FOB Forsyth Iraq, FOB Ridgeway, COB Keating, Kamu province...etc. Great weapon in defense and offense.
@Tea_And_History
@Tea_And_History Год назад
Echo that 👌
@dirkprobert
@dirkprobert 3 года назад
My father was part of a mortar team in WW2, Sicilian and Italian campaign, Pictou Highlanders, West Nova Scotia Regiment. Wounded twice by shrapnel in battle. Healed and sent back to his unit both times. He was also a coal miner for 43 yrs after the war. It was not a mechanized coal mine. I didn’t realize how tough he was when I was younger but really appreciated it as I grew older. Didn’t really talk about the war except with his war buddies. I do remember the nightmares he used to have. He passed in 1999. He was 82 and I still miss him to this day.
@walangchahangyelingden8252
@walangchahangyelingden8252 3 года назад
Tough is one thing. Very tough indeed.
@ajcook7777
@ajcook7777 Год назад
My Grandpa was from Corunna, Ontario fought for the 1st Hussars, was a Signalman and mainly fired artillery. He unfortunately had shell shock from the constant explosions, it does something to your central nervous system...as long as you are being attacked the guns have to keep firing... He left in 39' and didnt return until 45' being wounded in France in 44'... He went AWOL quite a bit, sneaking away to London, UK to be with my Grandma who he eventually brought back after the War. 1st Hussars were the only Allied Unit to reach their final D-Day objective on the first day. Also the flying ace Billy Bishop was previously from the Unit en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Hussars
@lightfeather9953
@lightfeather9953 Год назад
Legends. Cool stories!
@TheSword2212
@TheSword2212 Год назад
My grandfather killed some GIs in Vietnam
@rodneymoore7270
@rodneymoore7270 Год назад
SALUTE ...
@HBProds
@HBProds 5 лет назад
How to spot a mortar man in a room ? Just ask everyone "anyone here a mortar guy ?" he'll be the one yelling "WHAT DID YOU SAY ?!"
@jamesmcleod5545
@jamesmcleod5545 5 лет назад
Probably
@QuantumRift
@QuantumRift 5 лет назад
Also, there's a chance he'll only have one hand.
@danwatkins4923
@danwatkins4923 5 лет назад
Call out, "Are the any bubble chaser' in the crowd", only a mortarman (11C) would know what your talking about! (IE) The gunner is constantly making adjustments on the sight so as to keep the cross hairs of the sight on the aiming stakes and also keeping the elevation/ cross level bubbles in the center where they need to be!
@doubleemcastillano464
@doubleemcastillano464 4 года назад
What did you say?? One more time, didn't catch that....Oh yeah, damn straight.
@dannylevin1839
@dannylevin1839 4 года назад
Lol... or he could be the RPG-7 guy..... that launching charge going off behind your ear gives you a hell of a buzz in the ears
@jspec-vz3mc
@jspec-vz3mc 5 лет назад
11C infantry 120 mm mortar Platoon. 2/8 CAV "honor and courage!" Thank you, us mortars don't get much spotlight. Respect.
@jon2886
@jon2886 5 лет назад
I was 2/5 CAV "Loyalty and courage"
@cav1stlt922
@cav1stlt922 4 года назад
@Joseph Shannon... Love you mortar guys! "IF YOU AIN'T CAV, YOU AIN'T SHIT"
@Hawkeye-ef4xf
@Hawkeye-ef4xf 3 года назад
As a 13 fox I have massive respect for the 11C. Thank you guys, you have turned the tide of more battles than you will ever know.
@spiritzweispirit1st638
@spiritzweispirit1st638 3 года назад
Thank You All' For Your Sacrifice and Service 🇺🇸
@daveelsholz329
@daveelsholz329 2 года назад
Steel on steel
@jessedennis3450
@jessedennis3450 5 лет назад
I'm a Mortar Squad Leader, I've been on 120's for seven years and I can say it's the best job I've ever had.
@Tappettava
@Tappettava 5 лет назад
Once you shoot with a 120 mm all personal weapons sound and feel like air soft guns
@TheFuel89
@TheFuel89 5 лет назад
I came here looking for this comment. Wasn't disappointed.
@dirtyhlbly
@dirtyhlbly 5 лет назад
Poor youngster missed out on the 4.2 inch the real big gun.
@Tappettava
@Tappettava 5 лет назад
@@dirtyhlbly The 4.2 inch is 106.7 mm so its smaller than the 120 mm and the 120 mm KRH has a much larger effective range so which one is the real big gun?
@Ottakazi
@Ottakazi 5 лет назад
Right? Lol
@MercilessSunGod
@MercilessSunGod 5 лет назад
Naaaaaaaaaa 203mm mortar bigger the Soviet 203 b4m super heavy artillery oh shit ITS THE ULTIMATE SPG
@CyberEditing
@CyberEditing 5 лет назад
You missed the critical F.O.P., ( Forward Observation Post) 90 degree offset to the target, but equidistant from the mortar crew.....I worked with these teams in Angola, C.A.R. & SE Asia. These guys call in range & deflection corrections, often impossible to see from up to 8km away.
@CyberEditing
@CyberEditing 5 лет назад
BTW, mortars also assist with nighttime battlefield illumination (60 & 82mm)
@wolfgollnitz899
@wolfgollnitz899 3 года назад
Yip, these guys are key.
@unitedwestand5100
@unitedwestand5100 3 года назад
Our forward observers were the line platoons.
@Chris-ci3lu
@Chris-ci3lu 5 лет назад
I used to be an FO (Forward Observer). Mortars saved my ass more than artillery ever did. Mortars would always send my regards to whom it may have concerned.
@LeeZard27
@LeeZard27 Год назад
I'm a former mortar crewman. It's not a fun system to haul around and maintain, but it's exhilarating to put into action (mounting the gun) and fire! I miss the bonds I formed with my fellow crewmates in my time.
@ninus17
@ninus17 5 лет назад
i love the sound a mortar makes, especialy the older ones that has that THUNK sound
@anvior45
@anvior45 5 лет назад
I am bit curious about the audio recording from these videos. From my experience, with modern mortars the less your charge is, the more it goes thunk, instead of bang. So when they are firing a round with no additional charges i expect a thunk, not a bang: But in this video you kind of get a bang noise, but i feel that it might be a product of the recording.
@rutokelavra819
@rutokelavra819 5 лет назад
Don`t forget the impact sound.. !! Both sounds are so special. and the fact that u can shoot while fully covered.
@USSAnimeNCC-
@USSAnimeNCC- 5 лет назад
Then someone sound make music our of it
@nickhahn5412
@nickhahn5412 5 лет назад
The thunk sound isnt real man. Its Hollywood. They work just like any other gun, so they sound about the same.
@ninus17
@ninus17 5 лет назад
oh. i was so sure that i had heard the sound in a video some time ago, and not in a hollywood movie.
@stephenemerson9890
@stephenemerson9890 5 лет назад
Great to see the 173rd Airborne training in the videos, served with this unit in 1970. On battalion operations I found myself carrying not only my own gear, which included thePRC-25 radio and extra batteries, but three 81 mm mortar rounds. It is pure joy when the mortar team took one or more of them away!
@danmurray1143
@danmurray1143 5 лет назад
Now Stephen, this pissssses me off. I was told by my ROTC Recruiters that I would have an air-conditioned office well away from the battle field. Then when I graduated from college, the next thing I know, they have me serving as a Platoon Leader, getting solder's ready for the Bosnian Conflict. Was the U.S. Army not aware of my sever level of cowardliness? I'm allergic to being shot at. Yes, that's a real thing, Led is a poison....and stuff. I feel so misunderstood. LOL; hope I made you chuckle, dude, I'm in the Denver area, hit me up.
@neilgriffiths6427
@neilgriffiths6427 2 года назад
@@danmurray1143 Damn, flashback to The Deer Hunter.
@Bill-yy3ck
@Bill-yy3ck Год назад
Stephen, welcome home brother. Ah yes, I remember carrying the PRC-25 for LT Sly. And we carried 60mm rounds for the mortar the CO appropriated from somewhere, plus when the 81mm humped with us we carried those also. And each night when we stopped for the night we would turn the rounds into the 60 and 81mm crew, and then in the morning pick them back up to start all over again. And don't be late picking one up in the morning as you might get two. Bill B Co 3/8th 4th Inv Div 68-69
@bipolarbear9917
@bipolarbear9917 Год назад
My Dad was a British mortar man in WW2. He was a D-Day and Operation Market Garden veteran, and a sergeant in charge of his squad of 12 guys including himself, 2x 3inch Mortars and 2x Universal Carriers. He quit the army in 1950 with the rank of Company Quarter Master Sergeant (CQMS). Funny anecdote: I was watching TV news with Dad about 10 years before he passed away. We were watching the young green soldiers just before Operation Desert Storm in Iraq. The young guys were all hollering at the top of their voices, “We’re gonna kick ass, we’re gonna kick ass!”. Dad quietly says; “We’ll see what they’re like when the ‘nuts and bolts’ start flying”. Haha! That’s the kind of comment from someone that’s been in the ‘meat grinder’.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 5 лет назад
I used to play worms2 and my dad was really good with the mortar.
@orionred2489
@orionred2489 5 лет назад
The VietNam vet I worked for in 1985 said that when you were under attack with these, it just sounded like somebody slamming a car door. Until it landed. He said he hated it when movies show these hitting and blowing up in a huge fireball like it's 40 gallons of gasoline.
@dougmuravez
@dougmuravez 5 лет назад
Right? When I was assigned as our mortar platoon medic, the only time you saw a fireball was during night fire exercises. During the day it was just some smoke and whatever debris it blew into the air.
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 лет назад
And the shrapnel
@marrs1013
@marrs1013 5 лет назад
#Orion Red Not to go defensive on Hollywood, but there is a problem they face: how do you display danger? The shockwave and the shrapnel just not visible on screen, the camera unable to capture it. It's too fast. But we instinctively fear fire. That big orange ball of fire says 'DANGER'. Realistic? Not. But it makes danger visible. What is not visible on screen, doesn't exists in that universe.
@danmurray1143
@danmurray1143 5 лет назад
when watching munition blasts of all types, ignore all the dust and smoke, all that matters is that first 1/2 second of burst that distributes steel at illegality at significant velocities through your body. Let the under-educated marvel at all the dust and smoke afterwards--of little military importance. Our little secret. Stay with me bro, can teach you so much!
@oldtommie6782
@oldtommie6782 4 года назад
@@danmurray1143 We used 4.2" Heavy mortars, equipped with HE or Willy Pete, which had about a 35 meter kill radius. Five or six M-113's (APC's) would pull in spaced 35 meters apart, set up and drop the rounds, and there wasn't nothing left out there that wasn't burning. This covered an area about as long as 1/2 football fields. Not good to be there.
@mrreymundo5383
@mrreymundo5383 5 лет назад
I kept waiting for the part where he showed what mortars actually do. Hundreds of launches, but very little footage of hits. An animation of its intended function including the shrapnel spread would have been nice. This was tons of verbiage, but not a lot of actual information about the mortar's place in an integrated battle plan, nor how it is determined if it is hitting its target, etc. Remember not all of us have military experience.
@billpugh58
@billpugh58 Год назад
I agree. No explanation of aiming either. Lots of blabbering though.
@sealandsand1225
@sealandsand1225 Год назад
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@jamesmoss9487
@jamesmoss9487 Год назад
I was wounded by a mortar attack in Iraq in 2004. You’d usually here the report before the incoming detonation. This particular attack that wasn’t the case. We were staging up to leave our FOB (Justice) on the banks of the Euphrates River in Kadhimiya, when the first mortar rounds detonated. The initial round blew up an ING’s car making us think initially it was a V-BED. Then the second round impacted half way between myself and the smoldering Caprice Classic. It was obvious then, we were taking indirect fire. I remember being shocked that the second round, which impacted a good asphalt road only left a shallow “splash” mark. Nonetheless, I turned in a panic looking for the closest cover. That’s when the third round detonated directly behind me and threw me over the M-1114 I was prepping for that nights’s directives. That mortar crew was shit hot. It was “Add 50 Fire for Effect” 11 out of 28 of us were wounded. Miraculous that we suffered no casualties. They had “eyes on”.
@JiaruiChen_
@JiaruiChen_ Год назад
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@leewilkinson6372
@leewilkinson6372 Год назад
No one volunteered to go down range? How odd! 😒
@macellusyolt6667
@macellusyolt6667 5 лет назад
My uncle has been hit by one of these in the croatian war in 1993. His chest was full with small shrapnels and he got very lucky that he survived this. His Cousin still has a shrapnel stuck in his leg. In the 90s this weapon was very effective. I hope that we never have to face an enemy with this thing. Have a nice day guys
@deinermuddaweed5063
@deinermuddaweed5063 4 года назад
Enemy: dies Enemy: dies Enemy: dies Enemy: dies Guy who loads the mortar: makes naruto move Enemy: dies
@sheepdog457
@sheepdog457 5 лет назад
They clean the mortar tubes with orange gatorade?!?!
@orlock20
@orlock20 5 лет назад
It's probably water to cool the barrel and prevent cook off.
@chrisgunmaker173
@chrisgunmaker173 5 лет назад
@CompleteXgaming Tell Sgt Miller Barclay says wassup
@artytheterrible7287
@artytheterrible7287 5 лет назад
Ha! No man its CLP, it's a type of oil. they just put it in a Gatorade bottle, I've see CLP carried in many more obscure places, it's just how we do it XD
@artytheterrible7287
@artytheterrible7287 5 лет назад
@CompleteXgaming wow good for you brother, 11C is a slow painful death for me XD I like to here the motivation, kind ass bro! You can keep it though, I'm headed too psyops.
@robertodell9193
@robertodell9193 5 лет назад
It's not Gatorade, it's Mortarade!
@andrewlee-do3rf
@andrewlee-do3rf 5 лет назад
Mortars are also rather quiet too. Well, at least when it comes to the mortar projectile already flying in the air, and flying FAR FAR away from the barrel. Mortars have subsonic muzzle velocities, so because of that, I don't think they produce the loud "whizzing" sounds that a supersonic howitzer shell produces
@efitchpatric
@efitchpatric 4 года назад
I will never forget the range instructor's best advice to remember first and last. "IF YOU HAVE A MISFIRE, DO NOT LOOK INTO THE TUBE!" It still resonates in my brain today, something I will never forget.
@Quicksilver_Cookie
@Quicksilver_Cookie 4 года назад
I'm actually wondering now...how do you deal with misfire? If you drop a shell, and it doesn't fire. What do you do? I'm interested in what's the safe protocol.
@thomas_is7266
@thomas_is7266 3 года назад
@@Quicksilver_Cookie Here's an answer one year later. If it's the US 60mm you can try manually firing it by pulling the trigger, if it doesn't fire or it's one of the big bois, you just lift the back end up and the round slides back out.
@JimFinley11
@JimFinley11 5 лет назад
I served as a USMC mortarman with 60mm and 81mm mortars - yeah, they are man-portable but far from light. When they were assigning MOSs at Infantry Training School, most of the guys they put in crew-served weapons rather than making them riflemen were bigger guys. The machine gunners hauled a lot of weight too, and when I was in the antitank assault men were using 106mm recoilless rifles, and that's a REALLY heavy item that takes at least three people to carry it. We carried the crew-served weapons on a tiny flatbed vehicle called a mechanical mule when we could. Also, the weight was sort of balanced out by the fact that we tended to stay in one position a bit longer than the rifle platoons. Still called for a strong back and legs, though.
@artios162
@artios162 5 лет назад
"Have you actually hit anything with that mortar ?" - random soviet soldiers in CoH2. Tbh mortar is the de facto king of infantry support weapon (there is also the MGs but you get the gist). Not to pick on the heavy artillery but the ability for a group of infantry to just set up a forward platform on near the front line and start shelling enemy lightly fortified position is invaluable. Not every time you can just pull up a coms and call the 105mm guy in the back line with coordinate for a danger close supporting fire.
@bobbemis8911
@bobbemis8911 5 лет назад
Heavy artillery is better against armor and strategic targets like airfields where a have bomber isn't practical and a multipurpose fighter isn't enough
@twelvetwenty-two353
@twelvetwenty-two353 5 лет назад
To the contrare mon cherrie. The A-10 is the de facto king of infantry support. I know you are talking about man portable infantry weapons but the infantry support crown belongs to the brrrrrrrraaaaaappppp.
@berner
@berner 5 лет назад
Dunno what it's like for other armies, but Canadian artillery regiments have mortar batteries as their soldiers will also go out into the field and perform pretty much the same job as the infantry. We have our field artillery batteries, mortar batteries and reconnaisance batteries too. Funnily enough, they pick artillery soldiers for door gunner jobs. How's that for weird?
@younglord7805
@younglord7805 5 лет назад
Two Buffalos Making Noise dude u have no idea wtf u talking about. Mortars are quick, and can travel anywhere in the World along with the infantry
@twelvetwenty-two353
@twelvetwenty-two353 5 лет назад
Young Lord I suggest you go around to every infantryman you can find and ask him if he’d rather have an A-10 supporting his operations or a mortar team. Let me know what you find out. You’ll probably get waterboarded for asking stupid questions like that.
@reddevilparatrooper
@reddevilparatrooper 5 лет назад
The 60mm Light Mortar is much more lethal especially the M224. It can be moved faster because its light, put into action quicker, engage enemy targets quicker, and used as direct lay like short range artillery to buildings and structures. The 60mm rounds are lighter and every infantryman in the company can at least carry 3 rounds of HE. The infantry squad has 2 or 3 M203 40mm grenade launchers attached to M16A4s or M4 carbines for more indirect or direct support weapons. The 60mm Light Mortar is very effective for immediate kick ass high angle death to the enemy.
@epion660
@epion660 5 лет назад
@Megas Pantelos And far too expensive to justify itself. A RC plane with a hand grenade would be more useful and less expensive.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 5 лет назад
I agree that the 60mm mortar is a great company/platoon level asset. If you want bigger, you get the 81/107/120 platoon on the radio. if you need bigger than that, you have to climb up to artillery or CAS, which is harder to get quickly without pre-planning or luck.
@Cavemale2000
@Cavemale2000 5 лет назад
I used to be a mortar maggot and have used all the mortar systems in the US Army. The 60 MM mortar is pond-for-pond the most lethal and my personal favorite. As a section SGT for a 60 MM Mortar in a light infantry company weapons platoon, we were quite devastating. I had the best crew; my gunners were like magicians on that thing. Oh yeah, I convinced my battalion commander to have every infantry soldier in the line companies carry a minimum of 2 rounds HE each. Initially they all bitched and complained but when we bailed them out of some tight spots in combat, they came around pretty quickly.
@Cavemale2000
@Cavemale2000 5 лет назад
@@epion660 Nah, a regular frag grenade has a casualty producing radius of 15 meters or about 50 feet. Also most grenades will detonate after 5 to 8 seconds, making it very ineffective when dropped from to high up. a 120 mm High Explosive round has a kill radius of 60 to 75 meters (200 to 250 feet), depending on the type of round used. You drop that kind of ordnance with precision on something, like a building or fighting position, it will break it real good :)
@epion660
@epion660 5 лет назад
@@Cavemale2000 Alright, I'll gladly correct myself - An RC plane with equivalent explosive charge would be almost as effective as a GPS shell, at likely under half the cost.
@BowzerTowboats
@BowzerTowboats 5 лет назад
You know what they say, "The Mortar the Merrier."
@koinodiscoqueen
@koinodiscoqueen 3 года назад
Remove the word "the" and we got "the mortar merrier" still sound like the more the merrier tho
@curtr.5083
@curtr.5083 3 года назад
I was a mortarman and carried the 60’s. Thank you for representing this job extremely well!
@whomagoose6897
@whomagoose6897 5 лет назад
Thanks for this mortar video. Was a mortar crewman in the US Army. Mostly working on the M-30, 4.2-inch mortar. Spent some time on the M-29, 81-mm mortar. Both mortars are now obsolete in the US military. The M-29 mortar had nine cloth bag charges to get the range desired, the angle of the gun was also used to get the desired range. The M-30 was composed of a gun cannon, base plate, rotator, bridge, elevator and an optical sight. The "Four-deuce" used square sheets that were a pale yellow, about the size of cheese on hamburgers. Charges were calculated using fractions. Each square sheet had four corners. The corners were counted as 1/8th, so one single sheet was 4/8ths. Two sheets were sewn together making 8/8ths, or one charge. Ten sheets were sewn together to make a charge of five. There are 40/8ths in a pack of five, 40/8ths is reducible to five. So you had "five packs", "ones" and "singles" to add together to make a maximum charge of 42. Example: you need a charge of 34-4/8ths charge. So six "five packs" + two "ones" and one "single" gets you the 34-4/8ths charge. The main thing was the weight of the gun if ground mounted. 672.2 pounds, or, 305-kg. The ammunition was delivered by the ton on pallets. Not a very man portable. Range of 7800 meters if the new shells were used. The barrel was rifled.
@_Matsimus_
@_Matsimus_ 5 лет назад
Whomagoose Long ago soldier thanks for your service 👍
@dirtyhlbly
@dirtyhlbly 5 лет назад
Whoomagoose not an elevator a standard buddy. Fall out one.
@dirtyhlbly
@dirtyhlbly 5 лет назад
You certainly cut some charges my friend
@whomagoose6897
@whomagoose6897 5 лет назад
@@dirtyhlbly I don't know about the word "standard" as a name for any part of the M-30 mortar system. Maybe you are referring to some video game. The "four deuce", or, M-30 mortar, was composed of a base plate, a rotator that was inserted in the baseplate, a bridge was inserted into the sockets of the rotator, the elevator was inserted into the opposite side of the bridge, the cannon had trunnion pins on bottom of the cannon that were inserted into the socket of the bridge, the top of the elevator had a fastening pin on top that was fastened to a collar on the cannon. The optic sight was fastened to the left side of the collar on the cannon. There was an extension bar that could be used to raise the optical sight to relocated the sight around obstructions. After all the guns we're placed a special transit was used to align all the guns toward a specific direction. That transit looked just like a land surveyor's transit. Then the aiming stakes were placed at 50 meters. Then you waited for a fire mission. So the part in question was an "elevator." I still have some of my old army manuals that no name of "standard" was used. Only an elevator; an elevator raised and lowered than angle of the cannon. The M-30 was a mortar gun that was completely different from any other mortar in the world. Only used by the American Army. I never saw the M-30 being used by the US Marines. Also for a time by the Norwegian Army. Another thing about the ammunition for the M-30, Four-deuce mortar, was a Canadian engineer that designed a better seal for the Four-deuce shell that improved the range of the shell to 7800 meters. That new seal prevented gas blow by loss so all the pressure made by the charges was used to push the shell down range. That engineer was Gerald Bull. The same guy that was employed by Saddam Hussein of Iraq. He made that very long artillery cannon to hit targets in Israel and Iran. Somebody assassinated Gerald Bull in his apartment in Belgium. The cannon in Iraq was never finished. That assassin disappeared and was never found. Now a cold case with only a bullet that was removed from the body.
@filippodelstabile1512
@filippodelstabile1512 5 лет назад
Whomagoose Long ago soldier I've always wondered just how effective the 60mm mortar is. Personally it seems too small a caliber to be efficient and effective, but I know absolutely nothing about mortars.
@leroy4320
@leroy4320 5 лет назад
My dad served his mandatory military service as a mortar commander for the 81mm, so I really appreciate you making this video. Great content again as usual
@lwoods8660
@lwoods8660 5 лет назад
I was a 11C (81mm mortar) in Vietnam in 1970-1971, Company C, 4/3, 11th Light Infantry Brigade, 23rd Infantry Division (American). Carrying the 81mm mortar in the central highlands in the jungle was very difficult. We only used it twice in six or seven months (fired 2 or 3 rounds on each of the two fire missions). I have to admit that I was glad when the decision was made not to replace 1 mortar when the tube was damaged by an enemy mortar attack during the Lam Son 719 offensive. It's a great weapon if you have the right terrain and a good supply of mortar rounds. In triple canopy jungle and a very limited supply of rounds, it was just a lot of extra weight that the 4th platoon had to carry. Still a big fan of mortars. Really a bigger fan of the 105 howitzers firing from the Fire Support bases that saved our butts more than once.
@johnponton7958
@johnponton7958 5 лет назад
I was in Vietnam in 70-71 with the 1/1 Cav Americal but I was 11D
@neilgrant6876
@neilgrant6876 4 года назад
Was fighting in Vietnam for helicopters and heroin worth it mate? Fighting farmers worth it?
@ralphriffle1126
@ralphriffle1126 4 года назад
@@neilgrant6876 should have been mate. Shoot'em up, burn'em up. Anything that breathes
@elli003
@elli003 4 года назад
What kind of range could you get from that 81mm ?
@shadowwolf7622
@shadowwolf7622 4 года назад
I served on a 105 towed howitzer from 82-89. Thank you sir for all you did. @John Ponton.
@Word187
@Word187 4 года назад
To let you know, a year after you uploaded this video this got recommended to me. Was a really good video cheers!
@firepower7017
@firepower7017 5 лет назад
Because it is free artillery?
@ericjohnson7234
@ericjohnson7234 5 лет назад
Nothing is free.
@firepower7017
@firepower7017 5 лет назад
Eric Johnson I mean it as in already deployed.
@thelittlestmig3394
@thelittlestmig3394 5 лет назад
Your mortars are too short ranged to serve anyone else than you. Which means they're yours and yours alone.
@GoldenAura32
@GoldenAura32 5 лет назад
Almost as good as free real estate.
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 лет назад
A mini artillery, can't direct fire though
@johnparrish9215
@johnparrish9215 5 лет назад
So lugging your Mortar around is getting you down? Introducing the New and Improved Lance-Grenade MLE F1 a 51mm mortar with electronic aiming that only weighs 4.8kg, it also only produces 52 dB of noise so the enemy will have a hard time spotting you. Buy in the next 30 minutes and get a SECOND ONE FREE (just pay the usual extorsion fees) plus shipping.
@iamkurgan1126
@iamkurgan1126 5 лет назад
But wait, theres more...................
@danmurray1143
@danmurray1143 5 лет назад
you had me at 51mm; I'd kiss you through the internet, but my wife is watching.
@virtuousvillain9874
@virtuousvillain9874 4 года назад
Sounds a bit op, especially if your can aim with gps.
@mackk123
@mackk123 4 года назад
taxation is theft brother. taxation is theft
@johnnapier5127
@johnnapier5127 5 лет назад
I was in the U.S. Army from 1988 through 1990. I was a mortarman ( 11C ) assigned to an Armored Cav Unit ( the 11th Armored Cav ) in Germany. We used the 107 mm M2 mortar, which was carried in the M106 Mortar Carrier. We had two guns in the Mortar Section, and we provided Fire Support for the Tanks, mainly Smoke and Illumination rounds with some HE. I'm glad to see that the Mortar still has a place on the battlefield. PFC Napier, signing out.
@rodneymoore7270
@rodneymoore7270 Год назад
As a Cav 19D Cav trooper I saw a 80mm mortar platoon light up a target area at about 1 kilo range just about at evening twilight .... it was an amazing display that made me glad that my job description very seldom called for us to remain still very long.
@GenePalmiter
@GenePalmiter 5 лет назад
I provided ambulance support at training ranges in the 70’s. I got a day's practice with mortars. When given the chance to drop a live one late in the day the tube was dirty and nothing came out. I got to see how an officer catches the live round from an inverted tube. What fun!
@kevinc9065
@kevinc9065 5 лет назад
I thought they needed rotations while in flight to arm. At least that's what I would tell myself if I had to do that.
@thermoskan
@thermoskan 5 лет назад
mostly the smaller mortars have a smooth barrel. The french Hotschkiss-Brant 120 mm Brandt Rayé (rayé means rifled) witch the dutch artillery also uses, is one of the few mortars i know with rifling. So because of the lack of rifling the other mortar munitions use the acceleration of the projectile to arm themselves. @@kevinc9065
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 5 лет назад
@@thermoskanThe mortars I learned in the 1980s were 60mm and 81mm (smoothbore) and 107mm/4.2inch (lands and grooves). Getting a misfire out of a smoothbore is quick and scary. Getting a misfire out of a tube with lands and grooves is like a well-made slow-build terror film. And you can hear the round coming slow down the barrel as air passes the rubber ring.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 5 лет назад
One range day, we were firing 107mm/4.2inch from APCs, and the sergeant on the gun called for rounds faster than the listed rate of fire on a hot tube. The last round he fired that day didn't make it all the way down the tube. it bounced out on a spring of expanding hot gases, tumbled out of the tube, and bounced three times down the ramp, on the detonator end. - - - I have never seen people jump out of a tracked vehicle without touching the sides before then... That sergeant had to be ordered to go recover his misfire and carry it to the dud pit while the Lt. put in a call to range control and EOD.
@cav1stlt922
@cav1stlt922 4 года назад
@Gene Palmiter.... Yep, that was the scariest thing, dumping the dud round back out. I had to do it once, had the shakes for a long time after!
@jagannathbarman6712
@jagannathbarman6712 5 лет назад
First rule of combat...don't let Germany make light morters.....(seriously, have you even seen some of their WW2 era light mortars)??
@dr3yfusz
@dr3yfusz 5 лет назад
Jagannath Barman what u mean
@jagannathbarman6712
@jagannathbarman6712 5 лет назад
@@dr3yfusz ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XnQkLt3VJF8.html
@dandhan87
@dandhan87 5 лет назад
Watch Gun Jesus preaching about WW2 German light mortar ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XnQkLt3VJF8.html
@jagannathbarman6712
@jagannathbarman6712 5 лет назад
@@dandhan87 All hail Gun Jesus.. He got his hands on a G11 for chrissakes
@dandhan87
@dandhan87 5 лет назад
@@jagannathbarman6712 jai Hind nice to meet you again after a long time
@drewskee6607
@drewskee6607 5 лет назад
That guy with the Antenna is my buddy Rojas we went to Boot Camp Together
@randydewees7338
@randydewees7338 4 года назад
I had a Rojas in my boot camp platoon, good guy
@13ivanogre13
@13ivanogre13 4 года назад
@@randydewees7338 Everybody had a Rojas in boot camp.
@moeb9561
@moeb9561 4 года назад
@@13ivanogre13 shit had one in 2007 great guy
@13ivanogre13
@13ivanogre13 4 года назад
@@moeb9561 Yeah, I never talked to ours. We had a Black guy named White and a White guy named Black!
@joskarifinaukr6503
@joskarifinaukr6503 5 лет назад
Former Rifleman here. The number one reason I respect the Mortarmen is the math they have to do on the fly to get rounds on target from a position outside of visual range. Trig or calculus, I don't know, but calling for indirect fire only requires my position to be known as well as distance and direction to the target. On top of that, when we walk the guns on for an accurate effect, we give the mortar crews directions from our perspective, so they get to translate "100 meters left, 200 back" into whatever adjustments they require from an angle up to 90 degrees or more from our direction of fire. I bet the Army got some sweet gadgets that do the calculations automatically for the crews, but knowing our supply situation, our mortar guys had to do them by hand, and they had to be perfect to prevent friendly fire with AP shells.
@shorttimer874
@shorttimer874 5 лет назад
The flare on the end of the tube is a GREAT improvement. When I was stationed at Ft Knox, (early 70's) each platoon in our troop had one (carried by a 5/4 ton thankfully) and if we tried to cowboy it using only one hand it would really hurt when the web of the thumb was pinched between the round and the tube.
@billsandford3901
@billsandford3901 5 лет назад
the speed of adjustment makes doing the BC’s fire plan a lot faster. Get a corrected grid from the mortars, then one round from each gun on that grid to get gun data. 360 fire arc good for forward deployment. Volume of fire is great, book rate 20rds per min, but an experienced crew could reach almost 30rds per min, sustainable ten rounds per min.
@EMvanLoon
@EMvanLoon 5 лет назад
As a former artillery observer (1989-1990 conscript, Dutch army) I appreciate this video a lot! I was part of the mortar company of an infantry battalion and I had a very good time there.
@nicholasturner9881
@nicholasturner9881 3 года назад
Just got back from a deployment, I wasn’t too fun lugging the 60mm and rounds; but handheld is absolute greatest. Love being a mortarman. Thanks for some love for us Chucks.
@_Matsimus_
@_Matsimus_ 5 лет назад
For those correcting me about the birth of mortars.... please.... I know they were part of warfare long before WW1. My point is they were most extensively used and realized then... 🙄
@geoffreymowbray6789
@geoffreymowbray6789 5 лет назад
My father served in a mortar platoon in Jan-Feb 1942 (Malaya-Singapore). When the battalion was been over-run, by using 3 loaders they fired from their 3-inch mortar 21 ten pound bombs into the air before the first one hit the ground. He said it was a bit scary and they had take care with keeping they timing correct but the situation was desperate. In 22 days the battalion was effectively destroyed twice and reformed twice have suffered nearly a thousand battle casualties; not a fun time especially followed with the surrender of Singapore on the 15th Feb 1942 to the Japanese.
@craig147680
@craig147680 5 лет назад
Yes siege weapons , totally different to modern mortars that started in WW1.
@cptant7610
@cptant7610 5 лет назад
There were man-portable mortars before WW1, one of the best known is the Coehorn mortar: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coehorn
@biggusballuz5405
@biggusballuz5405 5 лет назад
There are, mortars first appeared in Ming dynasty China in 1372 and all of them were man portable, weighing in at 37 kg. It actually got increasingly larger from then on because gunpowder was not as volatile as modern day propellant so the range and explosiveness was heavily dependent on the size of the mortar. They were though quite extensively used in naval combat, then siege.
@g0lanu
@g0lanu 5 лет назад
But you were right about one thing, they became standard equipment during WW1, regardless of when they were invented.
@janronschke7525
@janronschke7525 5 лет назад
in my eyes Pretty much the most ingenius weapon of modern Battlefield fast, uncomplicated, coparebly cheap as well as the ammonition, indirect fire ...
@normanfrostjr.6912
@normanfrostjr.6912 4 года назад
In 1974 I was in the U.S. Army. I was a field mechanic in a mechanized Infantry mortar unit. I had a blast doing it. It really is a major strategic factor, my unit were in armored person/mortar track carriers. We were multi-role tasked missions. The drivers were totally INSANE..LOL, example: we get the scatter call, the drivers all would pick a direction in a randomized way according to your lead and floor it. Mind you our carriers were capable of 65 mph when kept top shape, however the braking system above 50-55 mph failed to work very well and in some cases failed all together. As a result you could not use the brakes above 50 mph, you had to use engine braking. That being its only major downfall. We were a Infantry Mortar Unit. In our War Games we supported a tank battalion. Anyway, we were inside a metal box on metal bench seats with looping straps hanging from the ceiling and your bouncing around at 55 mph across open fields and also not so open ground. This is on time you use your chin strap or your helmet to keep from becoming a casualty of war..lol. really it is a crazy ride. These ammusment park rides hold nothing on a ride in one. I can't for life of me remember their designation the carriers. Our unit Bravo 2-2-2, Fort Riley. Oh 3 120mm mortar tubes and infantry support... I like your videos...!
@adrianscorch
@adrianscorch Год назад
I was a corpsman stationed with 3/7. I first got to them in the middle of their Mountain Warfare Training package in Bridgeport. They couldn’t figure out where to stick me, so I was put with the mortar squad. What a great group of guys. Kinda mean and scary, but they’ll bend over backwards for you.
@Battleship009
@Battleship009 5 лет назад
Fun fact: The mortar dates back to the 14th Century
@tommyfred6180
@tommyfred6180 5 лет назад
fun fact; the mortar appears to have been invented ether in india or china in the 700s and not as a weapon of war. but as a way of getting big firecrackers high into the air at religious festivals
@stevebutler4629
@stevebutler4629 5 лет назад
The siege mortars of the civil war and those from prior times provided the high angle of fire of a mortar but were quite different from todays mortars. They were heavy and required a lot of time to set up. The trench mortars of WWI are basically the grand daddy of today's mortars.
@gladonos3384
@gladonos3384 5 лет назад
@tommy fred fun fact; gunpowder was invented in the 900s...
@Stripedbottom
@Stripedbottom 5 лет назад
@@stevebutler4629 There were smaller versions (horse/mule portable) though meant for mountain warfare, forested areas and the like. The british for example used them in colonial warfare to good effect. I think he was just a little bit inaccurate there, the modern mortar indeed was invented in WW1 (because the basic form is essentially unchanged since then) but the principle of mortars - high angle, high trajectory artillery able to fire over obstacles without LOS - is almost as old as gunpowder.
@alvindurochermtl
@alvindurochermtl 5 лет назад
Historical Chinese military text Wu Jing Zong Yao shows that mortars have existed in China since the 13th at least.
@FINALLYOUTAFTER7
@FINALLYOUTAFTER7 5 лет назад
11C here! I have to say your information is spot on!! You did your research my friend!! I’ve seen a lot of shit on RU-vid that wasn’t 100%. But by far this video has been the most accurate and well put together one I’ve seen on Mortars. Well done my friend!! High Angle Hell.
@_Matsimus_
@_Matsimus_ 5 лет назад
Thanks brother
@ronaldsmith4153
@ronaldsmith4153 Год назад
I was an 11C 20 at one point. The 4.2 was heavy, had a great illumination round and could destroy troops in the open. Our truck, a 6-wheel monstrosity had a turbine engine and was so loud it could be heard for miles. At 672 lbs it was too heavy too carry.
@MountainDewComacho494
@MountainDewComacho494 Год назад
Great video! Very comprehensive. I like that you shows crews with different sized mortars. And of course, everyone love watching stuff blow up.
@wtfronsson
@wtfronsson 5 лет назад
I think the natural evolution of the mortar system is to somehow allow robotics to help with the carrying. Possibly a unit like similar to the Big Dog could be carrying around a modular mortar. And when you give it the order, it just lays flat with the weapon immediately ready to go. Other possibility is to equip a soldier with an exoskeleton, so maybe only one person can lug around the most of the necessary weight.
@nealdolphin
@nealdolphin 5 лет назад
and with computerized loading, auto fire and aiming. Could you imagine it firing off 9 rounds in under five seconds in any sort of pattern needed using either manual aim, or gps assisted?
@wnose
@wnose 2 года назад
good way to retask m113 imo.
@Titus-as-the-Roman
@Titus-as-the-Roman 5 лет назад
From what I've seen/heard/read about mortars on the battlefield they are indeed deadly. When the marines were abandoned on Guadalcanal with only about half of their supplies the mortar units were instrumental early on preventing them from being overrun. In much of the jungle fighting in WW2 they were the most lethal weapon the average platoon had for penetrating the thick cover.
@JustRootsAndLeaves
@JustRootsAndLeaves 5 лет назад
Mortars allow rifle companies to walk across enemy positions and bayonet the wounded.
@neilgriffiths6427
@neilgriffiths6427 2 года назад
Well...you could take the bastards prisoner. Sometimes.
@Ehsggsh12747
@Ehsggsh12747 2 года назад
@@neilgriffiths6427 prisoners are liabilities and slow your mission down.
@ras573
@ras573 2 года назад
@@Ehsggsh12747 well you can disarm and tie them, and send them far behind your lines. You don't need many soldiers for a very large number of well tied prisoners.
@Ehsggsh12747
@Ehsggsh12747 2 года назад
@@ras573 true but it will still slow your mission down regardless, also you have to feed and shelter your prisoners which costs money. But from an ethical standpoint taking prisoners is much better then lining them up in front of a rifle squad, then moving on.
@coreyreynolds3535
@coreyreynolds3535 Год назад
Good video. I was a mortarman for 12 years on 60mm, 81mm and 4.2 inch. Most of my time was on 60mm in an airborne unit in Alaska (A Co. 1/501st PIR) You just haven't lived until you have jumped, at 0200, in the midst of the northern lights with an arctic ruck, a 60mm tube, bipod and small baseplate.
@ramadhani201
@ramadhani201 5 лет назад
do you remember that video of a mortar team, and it shows that one of the guy just chilling there being lazy and everything
@GCJT1949
@GCJT1949 5 лет назад
The bloke sitting behind the mortar base plate is the gunner and he should be adjusting fire based on the info from the radioman, who should have a fire control computer to direct his fire. Geoff Who notes modern times.
@tom23421
@tom23421 5 лет назад
You mean this video? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gsxaeIPOJIs.html
@aritakalo8011
@aritakalo8011 5 лет назад
Also sometimes teams have a mortar leader. His most visible imminent job being pulling the firing string on models with non fixed firing pins. Though in reality that is rather their smallest job. The leader of course leads the team given tasks etc, he also determines the base direction of weapon, checks the calibration of the sights etc., receives incoming orders, keeps track of available ammunition and rounds fired etc. Also that is the person most imminently getting their head bitten of by infantry platoon leader, if mortar accidentally aim bad and land on friendlies. Sometimes elevation and azimuth are on different persons, depending on mortar model. Most again heavier stuff might have separate elevation and azimuth scopes, adjustments. there thus being gunner, assistant gunner who aim one of the axis each and loader who lobs rounds in the tube. the lead pulls the string. Ofcourse this is mostly based on my Finnish experience and we are known to be rather artillery&mortar crazy and have usually massive teams on guns. Just to make everything that few seconds faster. And since we are conscript army, there isn't exactly lack of personnel. Plus it speeds up transport, maintenance etc.
@GameFreak7744
@GameFreak7744 5 лет назад
Ah, you're Finnish? The ones who built the giant double barreled 120mm MRSI-firing self propelled mortar of doom?
@aritakalo8011
@aritakalo8011 5 лет назад
@@GameFreak7744 you must be referring to Advanced Mortar System. And yes I'm a Finn. Though I must add AMOS was kinda joint project with Swedes. Though the single barrel NEMO follow up is ours only. Apparently AMOS kinda was even too heavy and powerfull. Which lead to smaller single tube variant to allow smaller mounting platforms and vehicles. Still it is one amazing mortar I must say. Both technically and just the 'we have epic looking double barreled scifi turret' factor.
@zlionz
@zlionz 5 лет назад
Served as a mortar man in the British Infantry, oh how i miss it.
@NeonBoxNado
@NeonBoxNado 5 лет назад
Mortars hit it from every angle!
@TheBing65
@TheBing65 5 лет назад
andrew dunkle In fact, 45 (longest range) to 85 degrees, that's call 'uper angles'.
@y.z.6517
@y.z.6517 5 лет назад
@@TheBing65 What about 0 degrees? Maximal kinetic energy? Useful to destroy things at close range, I guess?
@No_Face1313
@No_Face1313 5 лет назад
Was a mortarman. I used the 60mm, 81mm, and the 120mm both ground mounted, trailer mounted, and out the back of strykers and 113 tracks. 60mm is my shit I can carry that thing all day. Doing a shake n bake with the 120mm is beautiful.
@mkw2555
@mkw2555 5 лет назад
Very good material! Thanks man.
@king_blackbirdoutofaus8550
@king_blackbirdoutofaus8550 5 лет назад
i think all of the support company roles would be an awesome addition to the series maybe something like why is recon, signals, assault pioneers,surveillance snipers or DFSW so important?
@wardaddyindustries4348
@wardaddyindustries4348 5 лет назад
Those "ear muffs" at 3:00 let you hear a casual conversation from about 50 yards they amplify sound but block out the sound of the mortor. We got to play with em' when we went from M777 to the 120.
@ls200076
@ls200076 5 лет назад
@@alaric_3015 kraut
@Ice27076
@Ice27076 5 лет назад
Need those peltors lol a 120 gave me gnarly hearing damage
@LuciferRTI
@LuciferRTI 5 лет назад
Ice27076 we had to wear earplugs together with earmuffs when firing the 120.
@needle444
@needle444 5 лет назад
First time I used those it freaked me out because I couldn't figure out who was talking to me, then I realized it was the FDC Humvee that was nowhere near me I was hearing.
@de0509
@de0509 5 лет назад
@Alaric its resonance. Everything has its own natural vibrating frequency. Try hold a string with something tied to the end then shake it. First swing it slow, then shake it fast, then try to swing it at a rate where it actually can swing nicely. Thats the natural frequency. Some sounds are too high and some are too low. Engineers can design stuff to filter off different sounds while leaving different sounds to pass through
@ogedaykhan9909
@ogedaykhan9909 Год назад
I always thought mortars as the most OP weapon in battlefield. You can deliver that much explosive so fast that its mind blowing
@1djtraxx
@1djtraxx 4 года назад
I was the senior medic for our mechanized infantry battalion‘s mortar platoon. It was a lot of fun and I even got to qualify with the 4.2” (four-deuce) mortars they carried around in the back of their APC’s. They could fire from inside, but more often we set them up on the ground.
@AlpenSkyWatcher
@AlpenSkyWatcher 5 лет назад
THEN YOU EXPERIENCE THIS... *MISFIRE*
@Ottakazi
@Ottakazi 5 лет назад
Aeth Alpenglow oh sweet jesus. My private gave me a misfire cuz he fucked up one of the cheese charges while I was gunning. Had to kick that bitch to get it to fire xD felt my heart sink when I kicked and heard the 0.5 seconds of it sliding down till BOOM. Thought I was dead xD
@Johnnybegood468
@Johnnybegood468 5 лет назад
MISFIRE MISFIRE MISFIRE
@AmericanIdiot7659
@AmericanIdiot7659 5 лет назад
Reminds me of that training camp scene.
@xmeda
@xmeda 5 лет назад
240mm Tulpan is nice :) Small portable mortars were almost replaced by grenade launchers and automatic grenade launchers.. AGS17 can lay down pretty nasty fire support, while being 1-2 guy wapon only. And there is a lighter variant too. Vehicle mounted automatic mortars are also nice... they can spray multiple rounds quickly at the enemy and move to different position very quickly.
@andreasleonardo6793
@andreasleonardo6793 3 года назад
Too nice video clearly explaining important and historical explaining of motors ..thanks for sending
@themodernmusketeer877
@themodernmusketeer877 5 лет назад
Great video. You hit most of the biggest points. The reason why mortars are considered infantry weapons, and what makes them invaluable to an infantry commander is that he commands them and doesn’t need to request support from them in the middle of a battle. If a company commander wants air or artillery support, he needs to call for it and hope it’s available when he needs it
@dhoffman4994
@dhoffman4994 5 лет назад
Well done on your mortar video. Very informative. Kept my interest. Thumbs up for sure. 👍
@MatoVuc
@MatoVuc 5 лет назад
I served on a 120mm for a training exercise, before I was unceremoniously picked up to do desk work in battalion command because they demanded, and I quote, "send someone who knows how to work with computers". Following that I was shuffled around a bit more so I got to do more shit and experience more variety in my 2 years of professional service as a soldier than some officers do in 20. anyways, that exercise was great fun and it is a really cool feeling when you are part of 2 sections, so 6 guns firing off in sequence. When it gets to the closest ajdecent gun and ours going off, you can feel the sound wave in your chest. They let me pull the trigger on the last round we fired out of the gun I was on and it's a weird feeling. Basically I've been listening to some very loud booms all the damn time, probably about 25 shots all told per gun and then when you are actually pulling the short rope on the trigger, I barely even heard the firing of the weapon a meter behind my back. Pro tip from my squaddies: keep your mouth open when rocking that sucker. Small authors note: I've not had a sweeter lunch in the military than when I was eating canned beans one spoon at a time between running 120mm mortar mines between the prep spot and the weapon itself. It doesn't hurt that Croatian IBOs (Individual Combat Meal) are actually quite decent.
@soldieroflove247
@soldieroflove247 5 лет назад
As a Veteran Mortarman of the US Army and a I love this. The unit in this video was my unit. The 173rd Airborne Brigade. You are right. When we parachuted into Northern Iraq. Each member of our company carried a mortar round and dropped it off our mortar firing point once we were set up.
@narril4884
@narril4884 3 года назад
I served my time in Finnish military as a part of mortar platoon some 20 years ago. I got trained as mortar crew leader, calculator or signal crew leader and did most of the time leading signal crew. We got trained to use both 120mm and 81mm mortars and 3 ways of calculating the values to mortars. 1.Cordinate method, setting up includes measurements and calculations of own position(F.O.P gives their own cordinates, direction and distance to enemy and then we calculate right values based on our own cordinates). 2 "lyhyt kanta" translation would be something like "short base", it's used when on the move infantry encounters enemy and forward observers and close by, it's simpler and faster way to calculate the values and shoot, no need to measure and calculate own position. 3 Direct method, point the mortar to the enemy, either set a pole where to aim or aim straight to enemy and estimate the distance, if it misses, correct and shoot again During the 2nd worldwar also fourth method was used, using a phoneline as a measuring tool for distance to forward observer, just follow the line and set mortars up immediately the line stops to move forward and hook up the phone. Lenght of the wiring is known and it's good enough estimate of distance and direction to F.O.P, quite simple and really fast way to get those rounds towards the enemy and if they miss, correcting order will come fast. Point of this was to fire asap and correct the fire, not to be accurately on the target with 1st salvo.
@scottwoods9071
@scottwoods9071 5 лет назад
In my 4 years in army and 4 years national guard, I got to go through all 4 mortars starting with 81s for 3 years and 60s for 1 in army and 3 years 4.2 inch and 1 year with the 120. I liked them all. Hiking 35 miles with 81 mm tube is not fun though.
@garypiont6114
@garypiont6114 4 года назад
To bad you didnt borrow a pack animal or use a farmer
@onelyone6976
@onelyone6976 3 года назад
No hiking with an 81mm definetily isn’t fun, let alone the ammo crates, but it is very deadly as an infantry support weapon
@user-hg2lp8uz7h
@user-hg2lp8uz7h 5 лет назад
Thanks Matsimus, Good Work .👍👍👍.
@jstep100
@jstep100 4 года назад
Great video. ThNks much!
@mikebrase5161
@mikebrase5161 5 лет назад
I was on the receiving end of 60's, 82's and 120's in Baghdad it ain't fun.
@danmurray1143
@danmurray1143 5 лет назад
I have only been on the giving of artillery in training... that was enough to convince me... that can't be pleasant to experience. Lost 30% of the hearing in my left ear before I left Fort Sill, OK. Love you my brother-in-arms.
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 4 года назад
Significant emotional event
@ras573
@ras573 5 лет назад
In many armies, mortars are respected almost like some holy weapon. Greeting to all my 120mm brothers out there!
@warskye5686
@warskye5686 2 года назад
REPEAT
@warskye5686
@warskye5686 2 года назад
REPEAT
@johndoe-es7zh
@johndoe-es7zh 5 лет назад
The bar none most important factor that makes mortars better than other fire support assets is their speed and ubiquity as an organic asset to the manuever. All fire support assets have their advantages and drawbacks for example air support's advantage is it's lethality but has a lot of limits on use and availibility. Artillery is slow but the range of it and shear amount of fire it can send is what makes it so dangerous. But often it is too slow (or atleast slower than mortars) for manuever because it is not organic and in general has to worry about the bigger fight. I don't think mortars will ever be replaced they may change shape but their role on the battlefield as the initial big gun to be used will never be replaced. Edit: I see a lot of questions about the effects of indirect on MBTs. You're likely to do damage to things like sensors, reactive armor if they have any, tracks (idealy), and concuss/harrass the crew with bigger munitions. But to effectively destroy an MBT is a hell of a task. Hence why the best counter to tanks is not light infantry. Though there are tools they can use to counter tanks, the only true effective recouse they have is using terrain and obstacles to slow them down.
@arsaeterna4285
@arsaeterna4285 5 лет назад
very cool! I'm glad I finally learned about these
@DJSbros
@DJSbros 5 лет назад
Watching these Mortarmen makes me feel like they're probably the most proficient soldiers in their trade. They all surely know their shit...Just my humble opinion.
@armyman-ig7qs
@armyman-ig7qs 5 лет назад
Nice video keep up the good work
@windwalker5765
@windwalker5765 4 года назад
"Hey you! Catch!"
@griplove
@griplove 5 лет назад
Thank you for your content. Very educational!
@Jacob-W-5570
@Jacob-W-5570 5 лет назад
I like your shots of the cleaning of the barrel, hadn't ever thought about that.
@Range2212
@Range2212 5 лет назад
Out of that entire movie length video, I didn't see a single mortar land...
@zachdurocher1166
@zachdurocher1166 4 года назад
6:04
@13ivanogre13
@13ivanogre13 4 года назад
@@zachdurocher1166 This is how reliable witnesses to a crime would be, all of us.
@Zeuts85
@Zeuts85 4 года назад
What cameraman is stupid or crazy enough to get close to the landing point to film it?
@irvsstella
@irvsstella 4 года назад
Neither did the enemy...
@dandhan87
@dandhan87 5 лет назад
Will you talk about Nato forces reusing M40 recoiless guns In Afghanistan
@thedudeabides3138
@thedudeabides3138 Год назад
Excellent essay, really well compiled and edited, thank you.
@user-qd6bt9hi5u
@user-qd6bt9hi5u Год назад
105mm 자주박격포 120mm 자주박격포 155mm 자주박격포...
@andrewd3525
@andrewd3525 2 года назад
Great video man!
@Anlushac11
@Anlushac11 5 лет назад
Mortars add a insane rate of fire and heavy Mortars like 120mm are large fairly thin skin shell with as much HE as 150mm rounds. In WW2 a 120mm mortar was capable of knocking out a tank if it got a direct hit.
@alexanderbutler2989
@alexanderbutler2989 4 года назад
No not the same, not even close. 3 lbs HE with the 120 mm mortar and about 14 lbs HE with the 155 howitzer. Thats a modern howitzer Maybe the effect comes from a much higher rate of fire. If you can fire 4 or 5 rds to every 1 from the big gun its kinda the same
@jonathanschrader7881
@jonathanschrader7881 4 года назад
A 120 motar would break the track on a m2 but maybe a shitty track apc or a palidan .... A ww2 tank u ever stood next to a sherman a "tiny" tank
@stephenpowstinger733
@stephenpowstinger733 4 года назад
Almost impossible to hit a tank with a mortar. And mortars overheat like any weapon so you have to wait after a burst (I think it was about 6 or so) - otherwise you cook one of in which it pre-ignites and fires short.
@jonathanschrader7881
@jonathanschrader7881 4 года назад
Ok what tank? Like a ww1 tank then yes a sherman doubtful anything larger you honestly dont know cause the answer is NO a 120mm could hit anywhere but the tippity top and like the hatch or driving scope otherwise no
@Jan_372
@Jan_372 5 лет назад
The music before your intro deserves a derp-thomas-face
@abryg8655
@abryg8655 4 года назад
Deadly and precise weapon. Once you are spotted and not have way to run away, lie down and pray.
@ChristianThomas-wf5dl
@ChristianThomas-wf5dl Год назад
One of our 113A2 4.2 inch mortar crews were short, as a 19D we were not parked very far away from them. TOP came over and said "hey Specialist I want to show you something" so of course I followed him. Our 1sgt was an 11D with 4 tours in Vietnam so he was widely respected by the scout Platoon. We walked over and we sat down in the APC... He said congratulations... Your the loader for today , I know you'll do great and he walked away giggling. I had some of the most interesting and fun experiences in my career with those guys. Burning the Cheese charges at the end of the night was pretty cool. Mortars are very deadly in the right hands.
@franktank4360
@franktank4360 5 лет назад
If any weapon that still remains in the battlefield for many years if not centuries to come is the mortar cuz you just can't replace them!
@shazamguy3145
@shazamguy3145 5 лет назад
While I would agree with the sentiment, people said the same thing about swords, spears, and bows
@irishsavage8715
@irishsavage8715 5 лет назад
Frank Tank they did with the recoilless rifle, mortars are antiquated and really rarely used by conventional forces
@franktank4360
@franktank4360 5 лет назад
@@irishsavage8715... although it is true that mortars are quite old they are still being used the only difference is mortars well, morters of the U.S has tracking capability which allows the operator to aim and fire with pinpoint accuracy!
@harharhahrahrharo
@harharhahrahrharo 5 лет назад
And the ak47? It was I think used in ww2 or ww1 made by Mikhail Kalashnikov
@GoodVibes-xq4yi
@GoodVibes-xq4yi 4 года назад
@@harharhahrahrharo fail. Go read about it -_- AK47 was post WW2... the 47 is 1947.
@dustinshadle732
@dustinshadle732 5 лет назад
generally having a mortar, even a little 60mm can be highly effective because of the mobility. the biggest problem is supply lines and sustained high volume power. WP rounds used to be used on enemy vehicles. the weirdest experience I had was working SAR as a civilian, and worked under the swinging and circling flares under the parachute. something akin to fighting on an open dance floor with sole lighting being strobes. it made some dizzy and some sick. early mortar rounds had also been dropped from some prop planes and early helicopters. there were early mortar using older and sort of different versions of what we have now. very cost effective for it's capable and versatile role. I'd like to give you some of my dad's old stories, since I have no kids of my own. Danka
@ronaldsmith4153
@ronaldsmith4153 Год назад
I was in the US Army and served as a mortar crewman. The 4.2-inch mortar is now defunct. We used it and found that it was too heavy to carry and did not have enough firepower to justify a crew of six, plus a vehicle per gun. Our section had 4 mortars plus a fire direction team. Weighing 672 pounds it needed 5 trucks plus a jeep for our platoon leader. It fired an excellent illumination flare though. With a range of over 5 kilometers it was well suited for Korea where I was stationed. Most of Korea was stripped of trees from over exploitation by the Japanese which left a lot of open space and troops were vulnerable to mortars.
@hildonschoeman8828
@hildonschoeman8828 5 лет назад
Love it man. Respect from SA
@MrBandholm
@MrBandholm 5 лет назад
A factor that also makes Mortars really awesome, is the share volume of fire they can bring down. A quote regarding the medium mortar (76,2mm) during WW2, in use by the British army... "the 25-pdr gun (medium artillery) is able to put down a total of 125lb of projectiles in one minut of "intense" rate, while one 3in mortar can put down 200lb at rapid rate in the same period." Given enough bombs, the Mortars are absolutely dominating, and I suspect that is part of the reasons both Norway and Denmark has started looking into getting 4-6 AMOS systems into their regular battalions (ofc 120 mm is somewhat different from the man portables, but still).
@Gman6365
@Gman6365 5 лет назад
The WW2 British Medium Mortar, the Ordnance ML 3 inch, was actually more like 3.2 inches = 81 mm!
@MrBandholm
@MrBandholm 5 лет назад
The quote is from the British army training memorandum, of oktober 1942, and only talkes about a 2" and 3". The historian that wrote the book, only talks about 3" = 76,2mm. Now he might have not measured the mortar, or he is talking about earlier (he only talks about a ML 1 and 2)... But does it really matter?
@DragoonZeroAlpha
@DragoonZeroAlpha 5 лет назад
What is more hilarious is that in terms of HE power the 120mm mortar=155mm howitzer... this is due to more explosives fitted into shell and a thinner case
@somerandofilipino6957
@somerandofilipino6957 5 лет назад
So you're saying there's *MORTAR* this fancy contraption than it lets on? I'll leave now.
@incompetentgaming8400
@incompetentgaming8400 5 лет назад
Make sure to lock and close the door behind you
@twelvetwenty-two353
@twelvetwenty-two353 5 лет назад
You forgot your fanny pack. Don't come back. We'll mail it to you.
@dam11232
@dam11232 5 лет назад
Bah dunn. Tissshh
@austinpundit6321
@austinpundit6321 5 лет назад
Boom boom! So to speak....
@DejanSmaic
@DejanSmaic Год назад
I was a former 11-C on a Four Duce (107 mm) mortar with the 4th ID. Always wear hearing protection when dropping rounds and watch your fingers. I loved WP at night.
@sstritmatter2158
@sstritmatter2158 4 года назад
former Captain US Army Artillery. This was a concise but VERY thorough and excellent presentation. You really covered a lot including questions people prob had before watching this video. My only contention would be the aspect of artillery you mentioned. While true, artillery normally uses low angle fire that has a flatter trajectory, we are just as capable of high angle fire, which is what mortars use. We can hit trenches and enemy behind deflates the same way as mortars would. Besides splash damage, the key difference is TIME. I was on 155mm howitzers (this is Medium Artillery btw) and for us to shoot high angle we had to first load the howitzer at low angle, then crank it up to the right quadrant elevation (QE). After it is fired, it must be lowered to a low angle QE in order to load again because the angle of the breech is so low we wouldn't be able to load a round if left at that angle. This takes time and is hard on the crew to raise and lower the cannon constantly. Side note - as punishment, we would sometimes do this by calling a lot of high angle missions (dry fire) but they had to act as the real thing and raise and lower... straightened them up in a hurry. Mortars are designed as high angle only so this wouldn't apply. Anyway - all correct about not needing same strength of the round causing better fragmentation because less pressure on the projectile, base of fire being much faster than artillery, the different mortar sizes and what support each is used for, the reasons we still use mortars today - ALL very good and 100% on. Lastly, so you know - for the U.S. Light Artillery is 105mm, Med is 155mm and Heavy is MLRS/HIMARS Missile Systems. The MLRS replaced the 8 inch howitzers probably sometime in the 1980's.
@hadrianbuiltawall9531
@hadrianbuiltawall9531 3 года назад
Don't forget the morale factor. Artillery, armour and aircraft require specific weapons to typically cause them harm (i.e., ranged, AT and AA). Infantry can be killed by a rock. Mortar crews frequently share the same dangers as other infantry and if operating close enough to the infantry, have a minimum range that makes "friendly fire" very difficult. The fact that they can occasionally see their target means they can adapt and almost follow it as it moves. Add in "danger close" missions which are far less dangerous to friendlies than your "earth movers", they feel a "little" safer.
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