Why is your Gibson out of tune?! 

When you're instrument is so good you just have to realize strings aren't meant to be fretted or bent.

Just wind the E B and G string wrappings…up instead of down on the post, changes the break angle so no more binding

I fixed my Les Paul Custom tuning problem by playing my reliable Stratocaster. Rock solid and stable. I got fed up. As much as I hate to sell my Les Paul Custom, that will happen in 2024. I just don't have the patience for it going out of tune. It has been on display and in it's case throughout the years. Beautiful but, frustrating. I tried all the things in these youtube videos and even installed a string butler. A bit better here and there but, still goes out with a couple of bends and some hard playing. I can't use it performing. The Stratocaster stays in tune even if I put it in the case for 3 days, comes out of the case in tune.

Oh what a relief i must have imagined the D andG string binding in the nut because of the ridiculous angle Gibson over priced guitar headstock design and i must have imagined that when i installed the the True Glide device only $20.00 it stays in tune

Im sorry but nothing makes sense here. If it was so easy to solve this problem why hundred thousands ppl in the world are struggling with it ? And btw i have a stratocaster with floyd rose and it stays in tune forever, literally. My SG is out of tune every song, and im not playing differently the two guitars. Moreover if it is not a design flaw and only a problem of scale, a violin would never be in tune.

The interview was fine ,could hear every word and was a great listen .Thanks for posting.

It's amazing that you can make a 20-minute video on this subject and not actually share any relevant information. Actual issues that affect 3x3 tuning stability: 1. Nut to tuning peg string angle/binding/proper nut work for string gauge & lubrication. 2. Bridge to tailpiece angle & (for bigsby) binding at bridge. 3. Proper intonation at bridge. 4. Properly functioning tuning machines which hold position and have no dead spots/play in their adjustment

Having just bought an SG standard, I appreciate all the info I can to get the best of this guitar. Thank you.

The idea that the player is at fault is absurd. You can throw a telecaster across the room and still play in tune

Great video. I'd add another common tuning stability issue can be caused by an unproperly cut nut.

A big thing, maybe the biggest, is getting the nut slots and saddle slots filed correctly and lubed.

I have 2017 and haven't had this problem.

Great video, man! Specifically the oiling of the fingerboard, once every 10 years. I feel some over do it there lol. Followed you over from IG, thanks for what you do for the Gibson community!👍

its literally just the locking method for the strings that makes the difference. no guitar I have ever owned including my les paul ever goes out of tune after I started doing this a few years ago.

Interesting. I'm curious as to why he didn't mention the nut as being suspect in regards to the D and G strings due to their angle (PRS changed that angle and has no tuning issues) when you read about that all the time online. My SG can't stay in tune on those two strings.... getting ready to file the D and G positions on the nut to more rounded towards the angle and change to locking tuners. We'll see if that fixes the issue.....

OMG I just learned the right way to tune a guitar! I’m ashamed 😮. The wrap around and the loop. Thanks 🙏

I've spent $3,500 on an ES-335, and $1,800 on an SG. I've spent $80 per instrument to have them set-up (which is something Gibson should be doing at the factory). That price does NOT include strings. So far, the tally is $5,480 (with the new strings) I've spent many, many more hours trying to tune them than actually playing them. When you buy a Gibson, you should start by yanking out the 3rd string entirely and just get used to playing without it, like the guy in the B-52s. There's no possible way under the sun to tune a Gibson's G-string. Simply impossible. I now have two very expensive guitars that I can't play and would never even think of bringing on stage.

It feels like you’re not paying any attention to what this lovely old man is saying and just worried about the noise in the background.. Very sad.

Yes. Very nice video.

I have 5 guitars and they all go out of tune sitting around. I guess cause the house is air conditioned and where I sit them gets a little sunshine on them. Hot and cold does that to steel. Also if I'm not playing out I don't change the strings that often. But on my Les Paul I changed the stock tuners cause felt too much slack in the G tuner. Went with Kluson revolution locking tuners just cause I'm lazy and they're faster. Also changed the nut to a Tusc XL. Changed the bridge to a Tonespro locking bridge which has more intonation adjustability. And a alum tailpiece only because that's what Gibson used on the original Les Paul's. Also throwing each piece in got me better price for everything at once. Now my Les Paul is no better or worse than any other of my fleet of wood, metal, and wire sticks of enjoyment. I honestly believe the nut is the most important part of this tuning problem I'm always hearing about. Between the nut and the 19 to 1 ratio of adjustments, I feel like my Studio is way better than before. But I ruined the original value of a 97 ebony with gold trim ebony fretboard Les Paul. L O L ! Ooh ya forget to mention everything is in gold so the guitar still has that great classic look to it.

My prs stays in tune and my Gibson doesn’t. Either way you look at it it’s Gibsons being a bit shit. They should come out of the factory without any of this stuff needing to be done

I have two SG's and won't buy anymore. They're both for sale because they don't stay in tune. I always restring like in the video, and I just got locking tuners for one of them - still doesn't hold tune. I'm just done with them - they're pathetic and very overrated instruments. I'm losing a lot've money on them.

Curious thing about it, epiphone and gibson are the same scale and the same (some would say worst) materiales, and you can bend strings and play them hard without going out of tune 🤷🏻‍♂️

Turned video off as soon as you cut to the masked interview.

Strings are easier to bend on a shorter scale guitar. Not true. Only very slightly different, almost negligible. There’s a loss of tone with lighter gauge strings. Not true. Not on an electric. The Gibson nut needs to be dressed to compensate for the too sharp angle of the D and G strings. Wind them from the bottom up to help even more, especially the G.

Get the String Butler

I have 3 1980's Yamahas that all stay in tune. I hanve an epiphone les paul silverburst that I upgraded the pickups and electronics and it stays in tune better than any other guitar that I have. I also have an old '57 Les Paul Junior that stays in tune, a fender tele and strat that stay in tune. Enter my Gibson Les Paul Modern, and that guitar will absolutely not stay in tune. Changed the bridge, tuning keys, and 3 nuts by two different luthiers, still will not stay in tune. It's been setup multiple times and to date no one has been able to fix the issue. I'd buy another Epiphone before I'd ever buy another Gibson. I know that experience varies but it's obvious to me that, when it comes to Gibson, it's not necessarily as simple as a setup, strings, nut, bridge, etc.

I like the 70's porn music in the background of the demonstration.

so basically don't buy it

But Gibson made the guitar and my other brand guitars don't have the same problem 😕

Excellent Video

Sorry! This isn't as simple as it appears. One thing that most younger players don't comprehend is that these guitars that we are so enamored with were designed to be used with a .012 or .013 high E string, a wound G string, (in Gibson's case, a .028, later dropped down to a .024), and a .056 low E string; often faltwounds. Back then, as far as Gibson strings were concerned, .011-.052 were Light, .012 were Medium, and .014 were heavy. At one point in time, Gibson offered more string sets than any other manufacturer, and made them in house. I've owned three different SGs in my nearly 40 years of laying. I've always used .012-.056 gauge strings, and not one was without tuning issues. I've changed nuts, had different nut materials, had different fret sizes, and it made NO difference. I have always strung my Sis in the same way as inn this video. Whether you play with a touch lighter than a feather, or heavier than a boulder, it should have little bearing. Let's look at some examples: Robbie Krieger uses .010-.046 and Angus Young uses .009-.042 sets. I've never seen either of them have tuning problems. More to the point, Pete Townsend who has used SGs and Les Pauls, has just about always been able to keep his Gibsons from going out of tune. He used .012-.056 Sonomatic sets; and he hits pretty damn hard! This doesn't mean that none of these players ever went out of tune; but it wasn't so often. On the other side, Carlos Santana said he stopped using SGs because he ghad problems staying in tune. The tuning machines are not as critical as the general public has been mislead to believe; of course, a quality made product is always preferred.

I feel like most people have tuning issues because they don’t stretch their strings. Everything he said was definitely true.

4:30

WTF does "DM" mean !?🤪

This luthier is saying a whole lot of nothing.

Didn't watch yet! I'm guessing it is because it is a guitar! Duh

Awful video. Gibson and their very design is why they don't stay in tune

Loo

Yawn fest!

Anyone who would wear a stupid mask to do an instrument video is not someone to trust to be giving advice.