Why Isn't it Called D&D 6th Edition?

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The history of edition changes is varied, and it must leave the designers of Dungeons & Dragons (2024) feeling nervous about the success of their product. Why the odd name, then? Let's discuss the history of edition changes, why we are keeping "5th edition" in the title, and why adding 5.5e will never happen.
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@TheDelver Месяц назад

Hey, guys! I just wanted to clarify a point in the video that I did not explain well. 🙂 The title of this video does not reflect my support for "D&D 5th Edtion 2024" as the official title, as stated in the video. Personally, I enjoy the numbering convention of 6th Edition and wish this new core ruleset followed it. However, my personal belief does not supersede the reasons listed in the video that I believe WOTC has for not naming it that. We are free to disagree and agree, but my opinion is: I wish it were 6th Edition, but naming it something related to 5th Edition makes a lot of sense - although I wish it were something less wordy.

@accountid9681 Месяц назад

the .5 numbering system was already introduced with 3.5, using anything other than that would be unnecessarily confusing. It's 5.1, 5.5, or 5.24. Pick one.

@Antdevamp Месяц назад

This new 12th Edition of D&D will reveal many things to us. In September, we learn.

@bl00dywelld0ne Месяц назад

The only thing WotC has done with changing up the naming convention is sow a lot of confusion. Players are going to end up shortening what they call the edition, so it's going to be D&D 5.5, D&D '24, or something similar. New players are going to start thinking that this new edition is the 24th edition and be really confused. Also, the title 'One D&D' only got changed after the OLG fiasco, and was probably done to disassociate the edition from the debacle.

@ValinusAeverie Месяц назад

If im not mistaken 3.5 was originally refered to as "revised" and the 3.5 was only embraced because thats what the community called it. I don't know for certain what the community will call this rules revision, but 5.5 is probably the main contender because despite the assertion that it's "clunky" its honestly a rather convenient shorthand compared to "5e 2024".

@TheDelver Месяц назад

Honestly, I would love something like "Revised D&D 5th Edition" as the official title and 5.5e as the shorthand. Its simple, clear, and effective. Someone ought to get you on the design team! Also, the covers for 3.5 seem to refer to it as "v3.5," but that may have been a later change.

@ValinusAeverie Месяц назад

@@TheDelver So in the case of 3.5, it started as an internal name, which supposedly wasn't originally intended to be the official name of the revision, but as I understand it that name leaked onto hobbiest forms and it became popular in the community. In the end both Revised 3rd Edition and 3.5 were used as the D&D community had lached onto it. I suspect that's part of the reason why they've switched to using code names like "D&D Next" and "One D&D". In regards to officially calling it "Revised 5th Edition" and calling it "5.5e" as a short hand that is probably what will happen. That being said at this point other shorthands like "R5e" are still potential contenders I've seen. It's just 5.5e seems like the most likely one so far.

@TakaD20 Месяц назад

I'd better go with Advanced Dungeons and Dragons One 5.5-2024/2025

@TheDelver Месяц назад

That's it! Get this person to Hasbro, stat!

@sambro6657 Месяц назад

It should be called 5.5 5th edition 2024 is a dumb name

@thactotum Месяц назад

5.5 is clunky, so we're going with 5e 2024...? The One was because they are trying to create an evergreen core that they don't have to fiddle with, and just hang new things from. you suggest it's not a different enough to be 6e... but 2014 fighters are screwed, subclass selection is at different levels, the magic system is different, smite doesn't work in the same way between what we are currently doing vs the new approach. Exhaustion, feats, backgrounds, heritages... you honestly think the difference between 2014 and 2024 is not as big as between 1e and 2e or 3e and 3.5?

@TheDelver Месяц назад

I agree that D&D 5th Edition 2024 is also wordy and clunky. This new core ruleset is as different as AD&D to 2nd Edition; and much more than 3rd Edition to 3.5. The issue is not that it warrants the change, but that WOTC won't name it 6th Edition to avoid leaving behind their casual audience.

@IcarusGames Месяц назад

Hey, at least Battlefield 1 (incredible game, BTW) was about WWI so it made sense! I'll be calling it 5e24 for brevity, but I am frustrated that its going to be really important to clarify which book you are talking about going forward because they are quite different, even though the core game engine is the same. I'm also in the camp of being glad for the "nerf" to paladins, honestly. My favourite broken-not-broken way to play BG3 was to respec the entire party into paladins and just CRUSH the entire game, regardless of difficulty.

@wisey105 Месяц назад

I love Paladins. I'm pretty OK with the change. Is smite nerfed a bit, yes. But, Paladins got some good things too. Lay on Hands as a bonus action and can be used to harm undead is a pretty big buff. Being able to attack AND heal for a large amount on the same turn is really good. I also like getting earlier spell casting and always having Find Steed prepared.

@gorillaguerillaDK Месяц назад

Definitely enjoyed hearing your take on this topic - glad you decided to go ahead and make this video…

@aurvay Месяц назад

Not gonna delve into how many things are there that I disagree about this video. All I'm gonna say is there's nothing about this "new" edition to warrant or justify a $180 three-rule-book purchase. Their strategy seems to be driving away the sensible customers so that they could rip off the people who doesn't know any better.

@aaronwyrd Месяц назад

Calling it 2024 is going to date it real fast. Imagining calling 5e, DND 2014

@Picklescape Месяц назад

Really enjoy your videos 👍🏻

@ElocNodnarb Месяц назад

The Multiple Books situation doesn’t go away, specifically because of all the explicit Backward Compatibility callouts “here’s what to do if you’re taking a race/subclass/background from another book” all over this book. Even in this book, the guidance is that you only HAVE to use a race/subclass/class feature/background/etc. from this book IF the thing you want was reprinted here. Otherwise, if something wasn’t reprinted here, you can use the old one. Beyond that, we’ve already heard from CP and JC that there will be more in the future, including a new Artificer that’s already in the works.

@kurtoogle4576 Месяц назад

I'm happy about the new edition, but will be playing both editions simultaneously until everyone has access to the new rules. We play a lot, so the $180 cost is nothing when we consider the enjoyment my friends & I will get out of it. Note: The standard setting will still be Forgotten Realms - Greyhawk is just a worldbuilding example in the new DMG.

@TheDelver Месяц назад

Thank you for clarifying! Still excited to try Greyhawk out. 🙂

@jaysw9585 Месяц назад

Backwards compatibility is an illusion. Everyone likes it, but no one uses it. Its like when a new video console gets announced. Everyone demands to be able to play their old games but when the consoles.come out, they want to play the new games on their new system. Truth is, a year from now, no group will be using the 2014 editiom and anyone that doesnt have the 2024 book will burrow a copy from someone at the table that does.

@Dracoaurion Месяц назад

Call a spade a spade. It's the last edition WotC will ever make before going bankrupt.

@03dashk64 Месяц назад

Fingers crossed.

@Tazer_Silverscar Месяц назад

Ah... I see Lupins are STILL not brought back. Rather disappointing. I don't want to have to play a were just to play a dogman :O

@Noamalmoggg Месяц назад

so it's 6th edition... yes it should be called 6th edition and the title is just a joke/clickbait....

@lalalachacha248 Месяц назад

Mmmm excellent video Delver

@BLynn 17 дней назад

I've gotten into the habit of calling it 5.24 but YMMV, so enjoy. The rules released in 2014, I am calling 5.14 & it seems clear so far.

@RIVERSRPGChannel Месяц назад

Well it took our group 5 years or so to try 5e. It will probably take that to change again. I don’t think it’s backwards compatible. Not to mention what WotC has done in the past 2 years, I won’t support them. I’ll need to get the books second hand if at all. Good video

@Jimalcoatl Месяц назад

WotC did this years ago with 4e Essentials. Same game, completely redone classes and class format. Updated races and feats. It was meh then and it's meh now.

@FattyMcFox Месяц назад

I have been Calling 5.24 or DD24. Some people still call it D&DOne. Whatever it is called, it is going to need work. Sounds just as unfinished as 2014 5E was, and has a bunch of rules that will be ignored by most tables i am have talked to.

@jaysw9585 Месяц назад

Other game systems have new editions that are still using the same mechanics. There is no reason to not call it 6e other than marketing. By not numbering, they put them selves in a corner when a new edition does need to be made.

@cordellrecording Месяц назад

i’ve been referring to it as “5e24” which is a little easy and flows well. but completely agree, it’s a terrible name.

@sirellyn Месяц назад

Who cares if it's called 6 ed or not. At this point it shouldn't even be called Dungeons and Dragons.

@spooderous Месяц назад

One D&D was never the name. They said this a thousand times. Just like 5e in 2014 was never going to be called D&D Next.

@03dashk64 Месяц назад

There is a ton of changes in this update (from what I’m hearing) It is a 5.5. Or it’s a new edition. Call it what it is. But, bigger issue, why are people still supporting WOTC? I can’t respect anyone who is moving over to this new edition and continues to support WOTC after everything. It just blows my mind. Try out any of the other thousands of RPGs out there, or, if you can’t live without your branded D&D, just keep playing 5th edition. Stop supporting this awful company.