Why Isn't Wales Represented on the British Flag? 

Your music is a little too loud over your voice. Nevertheless good video!

The version with the dragon in the center of by far the best. I feel the addition of yellow to the flag constrasts poorly and the red dragon is more widely associated with Wales than Saint David flag. Plus having a dargon on your flag is just really cool.

I think the best way to do this (from purely a prettiness standpoint) would be to make the red on the bottom half of the Union Jack green, like the grass on the Welsh flag, but the grass isn’t exactly the centrepoint of the flag. The thing is, the dragon, while it’s nice, is quite a complicated design, and it would be hard to incorporate it into the simple geometric design of the Union Jack.

I grew up on the English/Welsh border and remember being asked to draw favourite flags in school. My dragon looked like a sunburned puppy.

bro turn down the music i can barely hear you

Hey Hilbert! Gread vid but just a small note you should consider rising up the volume of your voice recoring and lowering the music, which at some points is louder than you (min 6:00). Very interesting stuff as always tho :)

Being a Llewellyn myself, I certainly miss Wales representation and that Dragon in the center is the greatest.

The red, yellow and black version of the flag should seek medical attention urgently.

James the first of England was James the sixth of Scotland, not the fourth. 🤦

Its a shame because Wales’ flag is so cool

A dragon on it would be epic

minor correction, James I of England was James VI of Scotland, not IV. thanks, I love your videos

I'm not Welsh but without a shadow of a doubt the Welsh have the single coolest flag in the world imo.

Hello Hilbert. To be in keeping with the design, the yellow St David's cross would be more appropriate, despite the dragon being a great flag for Wales. Otherwise, you could say the red dragon is already there, right in the middle, but camouflaged. You could also argue that St. Patrick was Welsh. It was James VI of Scotland by the way. Back when Wales was conquered, it was really by the Normans. They had brought Bretons with them, and they saw the conquest in 1066 as restoring their homeland. An Alan from Britanny was the ancestor of the Stewart kings. See Scotland History Tours for details. I suggested before that it would be great if you did a collaboration with Bruce from that channel? He is doing a stand up tour and he asked in comments if I would be going to his Newcastle performance for us English types, but I am sure a Geordie Frisian would be welcome.

Enough Welsh men have fought under the Union flag to make it as much ours as any other British

Important fact not mentioned. Wales was considered part of England until (if memory serves) 1872, when it was made its own constituent country of the United Kingdom. That likely had something to do with the desire to represent Wales on the flag now compared to back in the old days. I personally like the yellow cross version of the Union Flag. Another idea I'm quite fond of is replacing the blue with green.

Hey Hilbert, love your stuff…could you turn music volume down?

They should just add in the dragon in the middle of the Union Jack it makes the flag looks awesome

If someone's only reason for wanting my nation's flag on the Union Flag is because it, 'looks cool', and not because they appreciate the people, history, culture and language (7vowels, btw), then i definitely don't want Cymru's flag on the UF. Also, even if Scotland and N.I. leave, I'm pretty sure we'd end up keeping the current UF because... brand recognition. Also can't see the flag getting the Cymric update unless England finds itself having to do some proper groveling.

Welsh flag is too badass compared to the others

Just discovering your channel, it's pure gold ! Thank you for all your work

Just slap the Dragon in the middle and call it a day my dudes.

Why's your audio so bad?

I'm Welsh and I don't care.

Just a note, near the end the music really picks up and gets loud and I was genuinely having difficulty hearing you. 😅

As a british person from England but with a lot of Scottish ansitory I would love to see the Welsh dragon incorporated into the union flag. It's a cool flag by itself.

The Welsh dragon inthe centre of the Union flag makes most sense. Good rhat you correctly refer to the 'Union flag' and not 'jack' as so many folk do. The jack refers to the jackstaff on board an RN ship, a short flagstaff reserved for the Union flag.

If you have a chance to put a dragon on your flag and you don't take it, you're nuts.

Do you consult with Sheldon Cooper for the flag videos?

Poor Welsh, always called foreigners in their own country.

6:57 that looks awesome

I think the best way would just to be to take the bottom blue part and turn it green

Recently read about the history of James 1 and VI when he became king of the whole of Britain including a mention of a Scottish version of the Jack in which the saltire overlaid the cross of St George, used by the Scottish navy for centuries.

the one with scotland replaced with st davids cross looks like a war banner like your watch the retern of the king and at the charge of rhohirim sort of thing

As a Welshman, I always have and always will absolutely HATE the Union Jack. I simply cannot believe the British government has not changed the Jack so that we are represented on the flag. Moreover, the Irish part of the flag is defunct because the ROI is a sovereign state, and people in NI don’t recognise it as their flag either. Basically it’s a total shit show. Wales football fans regularly burn the Union Jack (as I have done). Essentially, the UJ has remained the same because the English don’t give a flying f*** about us!

6:55 - Strictly speaking, you wouldn't have the yellow saltire because that's just flood filling St. Andrew's saltire. It would just be the arms of a solid red saltire.

I think adding a gold cross in the middle of the St Georges cross would be a better design

Impressive video, but you should work on the sound quality. Thank you. Subscribed.

Dude I love your content but the music is so loud I can barely hear what you're saying together with the sound quality from your mic being not very good. I'm a long time subscriber but it really needs to be said at some point, keep it up!!

Everyone is forgetting about Cornwall

I like the yellow cross on the current flag as a design. The dragon would be really hard to see in comparison.

It's not the Irish flag it's the flag of Ulster a part of Ireland still under British control . The Irish flag is the green , white and gold of The Irish Republic . But I love Wales and it's great flag.

The Welsh emblem at the centre would look beautiful

The Dragon on the middle of the Union Jack was pretty sweet.

Not much interest in the Union flag(always fly the Dragon) but would be more than happy to see the Driag coch take over from the lower quartering on the royal arms.

I think inclusion on the flag would solidify us visually as our own natuon in the United Kingdom. I'm not personally a unionist but incorporating us is a good step toward seeing us as equal. Personally much like many people I identify my culture with the Welsh flag since its the one that includes the foundations of our identity and the union flag feels more like it overthrows that identity.

James I of England was James VI of Scotland, not James IV. Otherwise, good work, Hilbert!

Interesting video. However, I kept losing what you were saying and started following the music on more than one occasion. Is it just me or is your "background" music as loud as you? Reducing the gain on the music would have solved that for me.

hilbert i love you too much not to be able to hear you, turn that music down and your mic UP. All love from here

I’ve always said we should elevate the status of the Isle of Man just so we can sneak a metal armoured dragon onto the Union Jack

I'm actually a little surprised that Wales retained enough of it's own identity such that this discussion makes sense. There are plenty of examples in European history where a territory was conquered or acquired by a larger neighbor and became subsumed into the larger over time. (Not making a value judgement here.)

Why bother? In a few years time England will be on its own.

3:32 James VI of Scotland

The dragon in the middle would be awsome

Swap blue for black, most aesthetically pleasing way of doing it

The dragon would be too OP

Trivia note: The U.S. game show The Amazing Race has been on for 34 Seasons, & they have traveled to United Kingdom for 8 of them; 3, 7, 17, 22, 24, 25, 31, & 33.

At this point you can actually google these shower thoughts after so many years

I emailed you Union Jack with Welsh Dragon on it.

I've long been of the opinion they need to slap that dragon on there. I'm not even Welsh, but I do love Wales, spent many family holidays there as a child. But mainly having the dragon on the UK flag would just be awesome.

Music too loud. Couldn't follow part of narration.

Am I having a deja vu moment, haven't I already seen this video? Also lower the damn background music so that I can hear what youre saying

It's on the back, no one ever thinks to look on the otherside

The Union Jack would look so much cooler with a dragon in the center of it 🐉

Interesting stuff. Honestly though, the Union Jack looks really cool and is so iconic that it should not be changed

Couple of mistakes in this video: it was James the 6th, not James the 4th (I on the other side of the V), and during the Scottish independence referendum there was no discussion of republicanism. Scotland would have become another commonwealth realm although, yes, that would still mean taking them off the flag as they wouldn't be in the UK. Good video overall though

The Dragon is a magnificent emblem but I do like the St David's Cross option.

6:13 Oh so THAT'S what the Union Jack in Watchdogs Legion means!

I think a union jack but the white in the bottom half replace with green might look good.

Correction. James I of England was also James VI of Scotland, not James IV of Scotland. James IV of Scotland was the great grandfather of James I/James VI.

I do not like the flag at 6:58 because it does not have any white, which is one of the St George colors. If you remove the white St Andrew solitare cross, there is no need to offset the St Patrick cross. If anything, it would need to be the St George and St David crosses that would need to be altered so that each one was distinct.

i think that the 2 first designs are very nice

1282, most of Wales occupied. 1284, Welsh Principality (Gwynedd) Formed. 1409, Welsh autonomy resored by Owain Glyndwr. 1415, Owain Glyndwr goes into Hiding with the British Crown. 1485, Wales conquer England at the Battle of Bosworth Field. 1536-42, Wales Annexed to England by the English born Welsh Tudor Henry VIII because he lacked the Crown of the Britons that could have unified both Kingdoms legally. The fact it was annexed proves it’s autonomy.

Please lower the volume on the distracting music.

Great informative video, it has a lot of information which is useless for me. nevertheless I like it. Thank you

Can we turn down the music a bit next time. It was good, but distracting in the beginning and I could barely hear what you were saying.

Errata: James 1st in England was 6th in Scotland - not 4th (misread the Roman VI?)

The old flag of Great Britain is prettier than the current Union Jack.

The “it’s been incorporated into England” explanation often said itsnt quote correct: It’s because wales isn’t a kingdom and hasn’t been for 1000 years, it’s a principality. Scotland and Ireland are kingdoms. European symbology is big on this kind of hierarchy.

I think Wales should be represented in both the flag and the royal standard. As it is, it makes Wales look like an irrelevant afterthought. Personally I like the flag with St David's cross incorporated because the dragon is too different from the crosses of the other flags to look comfortable. But at this point I'd settle for anything rather than have Wales just be ignored. Definitely the dragon should be part of the royal standard, though.

The one with the dragon would be a decent compromise.

the old flag of just England and Scotland, with a dragon ornament on top of pole.

It is represented, the red diagonals in the cross band is the flag of St David.

The last one

I prefer the first two but not the third. Also would all of the countries that have the Union Jack in their top left corner have to change it as well if it does change?

music was a bit too loud

Oh dear - James the first of England was James the SIXTH of Scotland, not the fourth, and although he wanted a combined flag, the one that you show didn't come into existence until the Act of Union in 1707

The music is a bit too high to listen to the content.

The version that incorporates the dragon is hands down the best.

We should put a dragon in the middle of the Union Jack, and it should be facing out of the flag and breathing fire. It should look like Smaug. That would be awesome.

Wales was conquered and incorporated into England, whereas Scotland and England joined up as equal partners to form the United Kingdom. After the devolution in 1999, Scotland was granted a parliament while Wales was only granted an assembly, lower in legislative powers.

James VI of Scotland. That's a 6.

James the I of England was VI not IV of Scotland

As an Englishman I think it’s ridiculous that Wales isn’t represented on the union flag. I’m all for it.

The UK flag is just too perfect. Perhaps a stylised Welsh dragon specifically made for the flag would do, or just not make a square background for the dragon.

Because it’s our flag and you can’t have it! Bydd Cymru yn annibynnol eto! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🤍❤️💚🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

James 1 was james vi of Scotland

Independent Wales, the union doesn’t work anymore and has never really been a fair union for Wales

Cymru - Diolch i chi

James I of England is James VI of Scotland not James IV.