An Israeli adult serves 20 years for manslaughter, and a Palestinian child would be sentenced to 20 years for throwing a stone. That’s a sickening fact.
20 years is the maximum of the sentence for throwing rocks. The courts in Israel usually sentence for a year or two in prison or even lighter penalties.
@@Userx36625 so letting them throw stones and put Israelis lives in danger? When you hear about them throwing stones you probably think they throw those small stones in the size on your AirPods case, they throw stones in the side of your phone or even bricks. That’s deadly
It definitely is no wonder that the Palestinians feel anger towards the Israeli state, when they face such an oppressive system of judicial military courts
if the Palestinians could create a lawful, peace keeping state, they would. but they are a nation of bloodthirsty violent people which non of their allies support. They get no support because they are in love with death more than they crave life. When they lay down their way of violence, peace will be in the middle east.@@Boogalyhu
@@8isyes, every state has military court, but it only used for military personnel or rare case civilians. But when you have basically two separate court system on the base of "who did the act" it's no longer serve it purpose of "military court". The fact Palestinian almost always went to military court, while Israeli went to civil court for doing the same crime is clear evidence of the injustice
Remember when Israel called for the UN Secretary General's resignation for daring to say that the Oct 7 attack "did not occur in a vaccuum" and called for a ceasefire?
The West gave him heat for that, too. Even though, what Guterres said was an unremarkable truth. It was bare minimum the Secretary General could have done, but even that was too much.
@@8is It is true that this is a military occupation. But in most military occupations, the occupying power does not seize land to establish settlements for their citizens.
“the problem is that the focus is on reforming this system, rather than asking if the system is fundamentally flawed” is both a very powerful sentiment and tragically applicable to so many ongoing injustices in the world
Reformism is an instrument to hide power imbalances under the rug, used by those who don't want any compromise because they are afraid of losing their privileges.
@@jojodroid31 "fundamentally flawed" means that its fundament, the underlying idea, is flawed, not just the execution of that idea. Reform will never change that underlying idea. Instead, the system needs to be abolished and replaced by a better system. Reform in this context would mean ensuring Palestinians have access to lawyers and translators. At best, it means getting rid of the two-tier judicial system in place. Which would be a good thing. But the underlying issue is the occupation of the West Bank and the blockade of Gaza. And ending those injustices would mean not needing this two-tier system, not needing to imprison thousands of Palestinians. This can't be tackled by judicial reform though. It needs diplomacy and good will, two things Netanyahu is unwilling to give.
Everyday I learn more about Israel and everyday my support for Palestine grows. Yesterday Motaz shared footage of a man's arm sticking out from a bombed building. A tea bag nearby. He just wanted a cup of tea, a moment of peace. This isn’t self defence, this is murder.
And before you say "innocent". None of them are. None. Some civilians also entered Israel on October 7, and help with the killings and kidnapping - it is literally in the capture videos. You can spot kids and even old people. (None of them!) Some of our hostages were died in hospitals by civilians when they underrstoof the people are Jews. One of the hostages even confirmed she was held captive in an UNRA employee teacher house, at his basement and was beaten to stay quite. Again, all of them. And even if it not all, only 50/50, I would certainly not bet my life on it.
@JorgeRiverosTales who asked about your opinion? Your comment is nonsense, he appreaciated the video. What's your problem with him appreciating the video? Making suppositions that he wouldn't like it if it's another story. Instead of focusing on the real matter and on reality of what's happening, you're living in the clouds in your own world fantasizing about an alternative reality while showing madness to someone who appreaciates the quality of real uncensored journalism. You should really get some help and just take a moment, a simple minute to see what's wrong with you
Because Palestinians of the West Bank have their own Goverment, their own laws, and their own justice system which vox just ignore. The military court is used only when Palestinians involved in terrorism against Israelis citizens.
I sat next to a Palestinian on a train for 3 hours and they talked about this. That Palestinians are so crowded when they leave they’re shocked at the open sky. That people related to people Israel killed are imprisoned on the anniversary of the death in case they’ll commit violence in retribution. Every year his friend is arrested, imprisoned. He can’t complete school or have a life. He’s constantly in prison. This kind of injustice doesn’t exist without reaction. God help us all. Let their be justice without violence.
@@jkromes20 It's been going on for years. Some of the kids being held literally grow up in these prisons. But in a way I understand. The States is huge and people are mostly doing their thing rather than finding out what the foreign policy is about. But if the politicians are bought and paid for then up to the grass roots movement to push for change.
I see it in another light. It's amazing how many people knows this fact and using it as an excuse to ignore other facts. Just like the ones sticking to children are dying when trying to shut down people sympathetic to Israel. It is more complex than that, but Vox failed to ask Israelis officials to put some context how this came to be.
Well i don't believe that they are doing real journalism, comparing when rus vs ukr war, Vox and Johnny Harris personal channel have more cover on that than isl vs pls, not because they have more time to do it, but because they willing to do it. You can see their upload date time, frequency, even to this day, they still talking about rus vs ukr war.
Unfortunately, people won't be better informed because people The West especially Israel and the US simply don't view Palestinians and Arabs as humans. So the truth, even if shown to them, won't sway them
@@FitraRahimyour statement doesnt make sense, but i give u benefit of the doubt… so what constitute “real”journalism? How equal should it be to be considered “real”?
Cover more detail, example "it's start from british colloni...." you know, blame all this to britsh won't tell ppl the truth and it's also a technique for hiding something, why don't they tell who sign the treatry and who ri-ch people influence to do it? Dont picky words. Example : Dai vs kllid. where's the upload frequency just like ukr vs rus? And demo-ni-zations to opressor side, such as targetting important leader like : "Putin"? Off course, they don't wanted ended up to be backrupt because lack of funding or donor from some important people : Example : Vice. @@arel4333
actually I think the first few seconds where Vox mentions that Palestinians killed over 1000 Israelis o start this war is the only informative part of this video.
Excellent piece. Accurate, concise, and easy to understand for those not well-versed in the the complexities of Israel's apartheid "justice" system. Well done Vox to you and your team of researchers and producers.
According to article 66 in the very 4th Geneva convention they mentioned, residents of the area at war shall be judged by a military court. Furthermore, the claims of abusing that power are baseless - I invite you to look at the prisoners Israel released in return for its innocent citizens a few weeks ago, it is public. All of these “Children an Womem” are convicted terrorists who have either stabbed or threw stones on IDF soldiers, sometimes murdering them or citizens.
Accurate? An outsider view using the common language used by " resistance " with selected talking points and the opinions of 100% of pro-palestinians people. There are truths in it, but no Israelis to put it in context. That is not true journalism. Numbers without context, like at the end are just used to force an opinion on you.
"It is with great sadness that I must also conclude that my country has sunk to such political and moral depths that it is now an apartheid regime. It is time for the international community to recognise this reality as well." -Michael ben-yair, former attorney general of Israel
Well one thing we can be sure of Isreal better hope the west US government stays strong because china russia and most of the global south have absolutely no love for them
Go tell that to the US which is still praising Israel as being "the only demcoracy in the middle east" while every human rights organization, even those in israel like B'tselem, are screaming that israel is getting closer and closer to building its own gas chambers
Chomsky is one to talk. On a separate note of his description of Palestine, his fabrication of the Bosnian genocide in the 90’s or Bangul genocide by the Pakistani shouldn’t be trusted, just saying in case you find those works!
Nope, comparing their jobs, excitement, word picking between rus vs ukr war vs this war, I don't think they doing real journalism here. You know it's obviously they playing safe on this topic.
@@FitraRahim Classic move--when new information is presented which makes you feel uncomfortable and conflicts with what you already want to believe, discredit the source. Dig your heels in further.
Vox thank you so much for your meaningful journalism on this topic. You did a wonderful job of explaining the facts of the oppression that can be observed in the Isreali system. You did a wonderful job of removing "religion" as a talking point and focusing on the undeniable truth of what has happened. I hope this gets shared far and wide.
According to article 66 in the very 4th Geneva convention they mentioned, residents of the area at war shall be judged by a military court. Furthermore, the claims of abusing that power are baseless - I invite you to look at the prisoners Israel released in return for its innocent citizens a few weeks ago, it is public. All of these “Children an Womem” are convicted terrorists who have either stabbed or threw stones on IDF soldiers, sometimes murdering them or citizens.
It is very much about religion. the quran calls for the killing of everyone who isn't muslim and specifically to the destruction of israel. and yes the quran mentions israel as the land of the jews.@@KenBladehart
In the 80s, when Israel invaded Lebanon, my father and all men of his village (around 500) were imprisoned without charge for 3 months under horrific conditions. Open air prison with no toilets, washing with ice cold water bucks. After this experience he joined armed resistance and they managed to force the Israel military occupation out of Lebanon. So these prisons are basically breeding places for resistance fighters.
It's interesting to see how a simple choice of vocabulary can define the narrative. So basically when hamas takes captives they're 'hostages' and when israel takes captives they're 'prisoners'
It’s sad, and people still wonder why the Palestinians won’t agree to capitulating the Israeli agenda for “peace,” if you can even call it that. How could anyone take an “offer” like that seriously when this is what’s happening to their people?
Because Palestinians are weak and if people are weak, they have to compromise to a deal which might not give them the best benefits, otherwise they suffer more like what Palestinians are having.
Apartheid was more about Segregation of race and discriminatory laws which were called Petty apartheid laws in order for white people to gain complete control of South Africa we had what was called
Thanks Vox for being honest about this topic. It was interesting though how you managed to avoid calling it an Apartheid system. Please dig into any aspect of this conflict, and only showing the truth will be a big victory for those people who were neglected by all the international organizations.
Palestinians have a de-facto state and they are judged by their authority (the Palestinian Goverment) under Palestinian law. Only security-related crimes against Israelis are judged under the military court. So it's not an Apartheid...
@@idonahshon1118it’s apartheid against Gaza though, there’s no PLO there. Israel controls all water and electricity supplies and limits it as it wishes. Clear apartheid.
@@therealgenju9429 they are often prosecuted under Israeli military courts, under Israeli law, a system that does not have Habeas corpus as a essential principle, that often do not provide public defenders, that use a language that the defendant could very well not understand well if not at all. and only security related crimes might be the official definition but its clear that the laws give Israeli military courts a much wider scope.
Like JFK once said, when peaceful revolts failed, violent ones become inevitable. It's hard to grasp how under the continuous bombing, mass murder, and humiliation, Palestinians still show heart, for instance, to their release captives, and overall steadfastness and character to the world.
Mandela said the same thing too. Also there’s this quote by Stokely Carmichael: “in order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. The United States has none.” The countries that support Israel are shams and only use Human Rights laws when it suits them…
It’s unique that Israelis have Arabs in their Parliament. The two cultures really don’t like living in the same neighborhoods. The hostages released by Hamas lived in damp and dark conditions in the tunnels, food provided was hit and miss.
I should also add that the west bank, according to international law, is illegally occupied and is not israeli territory, meaning that israel has NO RIGHT to arrest any palestinian civilian there as it's not within its jurisdiction an illegal occupying force, and still does it in huge numbers
Oh, i should also mention that under the same articles of international law, palestinians in the West Bank have a right of armed resistance, so killing an IDF soldier (or an illegal settler) shouldn't be considered a crime
Everyone needs to condemn Israel for allowing their settlers go rampant in the West Bank the same way we need to condemn Hamas for their terror attack. This way we may be able to come to a 2 state solution with gradually increasing peace in the region overtime. We need to quit seeing one side as evil and bring both sides to concessions and peace.
If you would focus on the matter enough, you'll realize that there are no sides, but the media doesn't show the historical and political details which leads to make foreigners (Americans / anyone with recent knowledge of the matter ) believe that the case is 2 sided.
Evangelicals in the US esp the South see it as a crusade to regain the holy land. The ones that wave Confederate flags, loved Segregation, Jim Crow Laws, supported wars in Iraq & Vietnam. I'm not saying they are racist bigots but....
Thank you for your honesty and integrity, the truth has always been there for anyone who`s looking, unfortunately, there are very few who care enough to look for it.
"Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East."--------Father John Sheehan
@@kingace6186 nope actually they would still hate the us if Israel didn't exist - see it's called radical Islam, like the 9/11 guys... They hate the US because of it's support for moderate Muslim countries such as Saudi (yeah I know but they're the moderates)
The Ottoman Empire was not exactly friendly, to the point that Europeans began the Age of Sail and subsequent colonization of the rest of the world just to get around what was effectively the Turkish blockade of the Silk Road.
The world hesitates to expose crimes of Israel because they would have to act accordingly. Suffering of Palestinians has been swept under the thick rug of blind devotion to a deeply flawed culture.
Not “as always”. Vox was once one of the most neoconservative of mainstream media. Look back at any video of theirs around the middle east that’s over 5 years ago. This is a real shift and a very recent change in Vox. I’m very glad to see it
So if I get this right, if a settler move into your house and throw you out of the house, and you tried to get back into the house, but the IDF soldier behind the settler told you not to. And if you still do, you would be sentenced to 20 years in prison?
Wow! We americans often discuss having two different judicial systems for ppl of different races, but not even we literally have that! We really have made this place the worst version of us!
@@8is But you have to be military to be court marshaled to a military court here in the US. Even if a family member commits a crime on a military base, they are not put before a judge in a military court. at most, they will be sent before a federal court. Israel is putting civilians in front of a military court claiming that those civilians are committing crimes against the military or the peace and thus need to be sent before those courts.
At a certain point, you have to assume people are just choosing to ignore to the facts. You can't constantly claim self defense, while at the same time controlling the courts, the economy, the roads, the water, the food, the borders, the sea, and the airspace for a country that doesn't have a functioning government or a standing military. It's not a war, it's a military superpower carpet bombing people throwing stones.
I thank you and applaud you for your journalistic integrity in detailing the context of the Palestine crisis, for simplifying the issues to those who argue its complexity as a means to divert the attention from the truth. The only criticism of the video is that you explained in essence the definition of apartheid without mentioning the word apartheid. Nonetheless I am glad Vox are doing more journalism than practically every major news corporation in the western world.
That was very informative, specially for anyone who questions whether it's an apartheid state. My eldest kid is 12, I can't imagine them going to prison for 20 years for throwing a stone.
@@KorotkovAntonmaybe u should stay in ur home in Europe and colonize a peaceful inviting country who was kind to you yet u created a genocide against them