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Why it’s impossible to make Money with Music 

Jon Sine
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@matthew_grixti
@matthew_grixti 4 года назад
A side hustle idea guys! Sell drugs in the club after your gig XD
@rajindroneel
@rajindroneel 4 года назад
😂😂🤣🤣
@DjViceroy
@DjViceroy 4 года назад
Pirate radio in a nutshell. Dealers funded the station that would promote raves they were dealing at.
@emiel333
@emiel333 4 года назад
Haha 😂
@poorkidd
@poorkidd 4 года назад
lol works for me!!
@damarezcurtis
@damarezcurtis 4 года назад
😂😂😂
@AndySimmonsOfficial
@AndySimmonsOfficial 4 года назад
8:04 December Jon: "I will hopefully go back to touring in a couple of months" Coronavirus: "You said what?"
@allahinperson6071
@allahinperson6071 3 года назад
2021: you said what?
@kedskies
@kedskies 3 года назад
@@allahinperson6071 lmao
@Richard_P_James
@Richard_P_James 4 года назад
Jon - you are open and honest. It's brave to be like this on the internet. Fantastic story so far. I'm look forward to seeing what happens in 2020.
@ElementD
@ElementD 4 года назад
Congrats Jon! I remember watching your first videos, you've come a long way, keep it up!
@IVCMusic
@IVCMusic 4 года назад
Problem for me is, I whenever I make music, I try to make something really awesome. Something I know other people will like. And this makes me kinda slow in producing. I dont wanna share shit songs. But I see other artists popping out every month a track, but I personally would never even play them. I have this strange pride, I want my music to sound good whenever its released. Not a rushed bullshit that I dont even like myself.
@pranayavnish8028
@pranayavnish8028 4 года назад
Depending on how long you've been producing u will get their if finish and make more tracks , good luck
@oledahl.
@oledahl. 4 года назад
Frog Lord I feel the exact same way Frog Lord. It's like you read my mind and wrote it down here. Feels really weird. Lol 🤝
@djx3no18
@djx3no18 4 года назад
yeah ur right man...don't ever release something you don't like, that's not artistry. There are tricks you can use to produce dope shit faster. One tip is to save the new ideas you come up with when ur working on a track, you can save them in a folder and come back to them later. Templates are a must. Also my problem my first 3 years producing was trying to "re-invent the wheel" every time I made a new track. Use the dope shit you already made to create new tracks - This will speed up your workflow immensely, and will give your sound some consistency as well
@oledahl.
@oledahl. 4 года назад
DJ X3NO thank you for the nice and good reply! 🙏
@karlt3026
@karlt3026 4 года назад
Thats good but don’t get stuck on one track trying to make it perfect, that way you wont progress. I made that mistake in the beginning.
@jdstarek
@jdstarek 4 года назад
Impossible to make money: says the guy with a 4,000 sq foot studio, with over $100,000 of audio equipment, a boat, and takes multiple vacations every year. Smh. Dont get me wrong, respect to Jon for bossing, but Jon doesn’t want to be a DJ, he doesn’t want to tour, he doesn’t really even want to just make cool music...Jon wants to be a media mogul (think Deamou5, Dr Dre, Jaz-Z, etc). Why would someone with no presence buy a huge studio, start a label, and spend 1/2 their time trying to network with industry insiders? I just want to make music my friends like. As do most subscribers. If the goal was to write a hit song and “blow up,” you can do that in a bedroom with Mac and some headphones. Pretty much every famous EDM producer went platinum on a desk in their dorm room. They didnt get the crazy studio until after. Jon is on a mission to create a lifestyle, and this channel is part of that, presenting himself as a media entity that jet-sets off to Ibiza or Croatia. Not hating at all, looks like a great life...but if we’re honest, it’s not really about the music. 80% of the videos are just self promotion. I’ve never seen a Serum tutorial on bass lines, or a video on programing drum grooves. This channel is about creating a persona and awareness for the brand.
@itsrelativ3967
@itsrelativ3967 2 года назад
LOL....
@blackatom8989
@blackatom8989 4 года назад
Nothing is impossible my maan!!
@kre8orez561
@kre8orez561 4 года назад
Hey bro, do you know what the word “impossible” means?
@Geva555
@Geva555 4 года назад
happy for you that you got to this stage man !
@martinmicor7822
@martinmicor7822 4 года назад
i've been here since your first studio. im proud of you jon!
@Jonsine
@Jonsine 4 года назад
Thank you for being part of this for so long
@videoneco
@videoneco 4 года назад
I love this type of videos. It's like to talk with somebody who has more experience and tries to open my eyes. Thanks
@rawstarmusic
@rawstarmusic 4 года назад
No-one buys music anymore. You have to perform
@JohannesNielsen
@JohannesNielsen 4 года назад
I am studying a Diploma of Electronic Music Production, at the same time I am doing a Bachelors of Security Studies and designing secure PC’s for Music Production, secure file servers and building custom equipment for DJ’s based on arduino boards
@sailfishoneday2145
@sailfishoneday2145 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing ur " secrets " .....the inspiration / motivation is powerful . Stay positive and keep moving forward!
@hcmusicofficial
@hcmusicofficial 4 года назад
Wow man love your soul and your attitude towards music, you spoke 100% truth wish you all the very best :)
@GarrettMusic1
@GarrettMusic1 4 года назад
You are doing amazing man! Just keep going if you are living a normal life because of music then thank God! Just keep building on it like you are and amazing things will happen
@diegooliveirabenjamin
@diegooliveirabenjamin 4 года назад
This is awesome Jon, I totally got you on this one, I know the feeling. Keep it man!
@echahbinabil1980
@echahbinabil1980 4 года назад
I love music to enjoy it. I play the music I love.As for the money, it comes to improving the level of production. And don't wait for money from music. If some think this. Enjoy yourself and others with beautiful songs. Then the money will come alone. Thank you
@tjthedj2612
@tjthedj2612 4 года назад
From East Texas...”howdy!” I’m a big fan of your mixing skills. Everything you produce is so clean. Thanks again.
@zurkram
@zurkram 4 года назад
Curious, in one sentence you say the old way of using A label to sell your music doesn’t work, and they rip you off, but then you say YOU have a label and you have artist. How does that work?
@Jonsine
@Jonsine 4 года назад
My label is different with very fair contracts making sure the artist gets the most out of every release
@poorkidd
@poorkidd 4 года назад
That’s the trick becoming the )ew is the only way to profit....
@mts2639
@mts2639 4 года назад
Nice to see your progress. When I first saw your videos, you had a few thousand subscribers, and struggling in that little art studio of your father's, and monitoring through awful Yamaha HS8s. Must feel very wonderful now with these achievements. In the same amount of time, materially, I only managed to achieve a decent control room and a fair income. My best wishes and cheers to the future!
@snakemont
@snakemont 4 года назад
Keep makin the Vids! I thought man this guy is amazing.... and all these tipps and great vids...and than,,...lebt der Kerl auch noch in Düsseldorf! Keep it up my friend!
@DjDontStop
@DjDontStop 3 года назад
I was done by my management too. Wow and you should be sooo proud of yourself. That's amazing and such a goal for me too.... Thanks for your honesty and thanks so much for this video, it has given me hope to carry on and push myself!! Please don't stop making video. Big fan of you and not just your music bro.
@mr.stick3rsk
@mr.stick3rsk 4 года назад
i can understand because i am also a producer and a studio owner from India and i am also broke every month.sometimes i have to lend some money from my friend,some times i have tears in my eyes because i always pray to God that one day everything is going to be fine.Love your videos man.
@harshsranjan8551
@harshsranjan8551 3 года назад
Thanks for the information :)
@mk_alexander
@mk_alexander 4 года назад
I enjoy your content and admire your daily sharing/contributions! I feel that you're about to turn a corner and experience explosive growth in your subscriber base (and soon sponsorships), so here's an early congratulations! Wishing you continued success.
@michaelv2904
@michaelv2904 4 года назад
Without RU-vid you would not be where you are today. In this digital jungle you need Facebook, RU-vid, Instagram and others to help you. In my eyes, no disrespect, your a youtuber who makes music. You made it all yourself of course.
@JapanReels
@JapanReels 4 года назад
You can make a handsome living from your music.
@treec7930
@treec7930 4 года назад
I've just to say it, I'm really enjoying it to see you making it in the music business
@reggiemaron6310
@reggiemaron6310 4 года назад
hey mate ! good job with everything, the struggle must have been real but you made it Cheers ! keep it up
@closertothemic
@closertothemic 4 года назад
Shout out from Shout Africa, watching this from my small studio, this was my first year professionally, Inspired to build mine like you did yours, thank you for sharing brother.
@oledahl.
@oledahl. 4 года назад
Such an inspiring video! You are really one of the hardest working people I know Jon! So I am so thankful that you share your knowledge with us, and I have wished for your success all the time, and now that it's finally working out for you I am so glad! Thank You again Jon!! 😊🙏 Ps. Can't wait for your next release btw! Kindest reg from Ole Marcus 🇳🇴
@oledahl.
@oledahl. 4 года назад
I'll apologize if my thankfulness and admiration for everything you have achieved have made you uncomfortable. I am really NOT trying to suck up to you! All my posts with thanking and positive talking about you have been honest and from the heart! I am one of your biggest fans I'm sure. But I will take it easier from now. I can tell that you don’t like it because I haven't got even a like or comment for ages from you. And that makes me feel a little bit stupid. I'm really trying to support you as best I can. I bought your song on Beatport twice, I have listened to your last release on Spotify on loop for hours each day to get the count up and I have joined as a member on your channel. One of the reasons I comment a lot is also so RU-vid reads more activity on your channel. And I have done all that because I really respect you and łike you. But it has never been my intention to bother you or to suck up to you! So please accept my apology. I will continue to be your fan in a more silent way. Sorry!! Ole Marcus
@emiel333
@emiel333 4 года назад
I’m not as big as you are, but I can pay my bills, and have some spare change to buy expensive gadgets when I want to. I’m definitely eager to progress and make the most out of it. I can tell that you are a great source of inspiration for me, Jon!
@GrantStinnett
@GrantStinnett 4 года назад
Hey man! Thanks for sharing some of your story. You got my sub for this message and story and this is the first vid I’ve seen of yours. Well done building the awesome business!
@xlcoldj
@xlcoldj 4 года назад
I halfway expected to see you weeping over a guitar. Very funny. :-)
@jackedkerouac4414
@jackedkerouac4414 10 месяцев назад
Congratulations. I bet you finally gave your family the peace of mind that it's not all a pipe dream. Now if any relative gives you a hard time during the holidays about getting a "real" job you don't have to say a word. Just send them this video link.
@alexpriftis85
@alexpriftis85 4 года назад
I really admire what you've done with the passing of time. After a lot of sacrifices, personal time, a lot of effort you've reached a point where you do something you love for a living! That's amazing! Unfortunately i belong to the category you mention : Release a song and wait for the money haha. On top of that i have a day job to support me so time for producing is limited. What do you have to say to someone who doesn't know anything about branding or marketing and isn't comfortable in front of a camera? Can you recommend a few basic steps or an online course (if there is any) that helps you with the aspect of music branding, promoting and marketing? Other than my website and socials i have no idea what to do to make a brand of my self over time. I've been standing still with zero plays for the last 2 years and i've been producing for 12. All of that just because i thought: "oh i will make a dope song, upload it everywhere and i will make a hit someday" boy was i wrong..
@JohnJesus
@JohnJesus 4 года назад
Awesome man, congrats on the space!! Great tips too!
@djflx3313
@djflx3313 4 года назад
Good to hear honest opinions and facts for once. Seems like every creative soul on RU-vid screams for attention these days and throw all kinds of magic potions at us. However, very very few are honest about their life and living (business/money wise.) Thanks for sharing and keep up your good work Jon! :D // DJFLX
@Guuster00
@Guuster00 4 года назад
Love your video's. Greetz from Belgium.
@realityplay8181
@realityplay8181 4 года назад
I'm having a hard time making it onto playlists. I'm tooling over to be more EDM, pop. I have a music background but my expectations have been like he said. The idea of just reaching out to people seems impossible at this point. I like to produce, selling is the fact I don't know what Im doing. I'm at the point like he says, choosing a brand. He is proof I can just be me though, thanks. I still dream of a million streams a month Which makes it EDM or Metal?
@TheAthavanleon
@TheAthavanleon 4 года назад
Just started watching your contents... Love it... Happy for you mate. been there were you were... trust me you will show all of the people who look down on you... :)
@tesquimusic
@tesquimusic 4 года назад
You knw what I like on this Guy, Cause he's really honest !! Keep going Brother
@dj30a9
@dj30a9 4 года назад
Great Video Jon! Thanks for the positive message!
@CallumEddings
@CallumEddings 4 года назад
Mate I can’t believe the growth. Still remember when you barely had 5,000 subscribers. Feels like I know you personally 😂
@DoctorJRx
@DoctorJRx 4 года назад
thanks Jon !! i appreciate your videos ..i learn alot
@djstuntel6026
@djstuntel6026 4 года назад
Ik heb nog nooit geluk gehad om een keer mee te mogen kunnen doen in het echt met de muziek in Nederland Ik heb nu drie geweldige nummers om te kunnen laten horen maar ik heb nog steeds niet mee kunnen doen
@ezeokaforchima
@ezeokaforchima 4 года назад
i still don't get why someone will dislike this video.
@JohnJesus
@JohnJesus 4 года назад
jealousy.... it is also meaning less. It takes no effort to click on the dislike -- it takes a lot of effort to record the video, edit, upload.... not to mention all other things that make it worth watching the video -- like the effort it took him to gather the skills and knowledge he shares
@gilmertugahan
@gilmertugahan 3 года назад
love your videos!
@djstuntel6026
@djstuntel6026 4 года назад
ik weet dat ik niet snel genoeg ben geweest en ik begin het nu te begrijpen wat ik moet kunnen doen en hoe ik het moet kunnen doen en wat ik moest aan kunnen
@jcmorse563
@jcmorse563 4 года назад
ok buying the pack and going to see if I can get a good mix in the competition... Thanks for the info on the income streams..
@bashanborlangkhongshei2851
@bashanborlangkhongshei2851 4 года назад
Can't wait to see you Dj in your vlogs in a couple of months👍👍
@doowopshopgal
@doowopshopgal 4 года назад
Hey guy, if you were my son I would be so proud! What a bright star!!!
@oledahl.
@oledahl. 4 года назад
doowopshopgal that's what we call a really nice compliment! 👍😃
@KatStuMana
@KatStuMana 3 года назад
Awesome video!
@Lacrom23
@Lacrom23 4 года назад
I really enjoyed this video and very glad for you!
@TonyThomas10000
@TonyThomas10000 4 года назад
To be fair, it IS possible to make money making music. You could ghost produce, produce remixes for other artists, co-produce for and with artists, produce music for commercials and industrial videos, produce demos, produce trailer music, produce music for scores, produce for music libraries, etc. You are just trying to produce music for an extremely competitive genre and a few competitive platforms: Spotify and Apple Music. However, you are right that brand building and generating multiple income streams is the way to go.
@itsrelativ3967
@itsrelativ3967 2 года назад
Only if you know the right people and are allowed to be in the same studios with them.
@itsrelativ3967
@itsrelativ3967 Год назад
I've never seen anyone that was a working musician successfully retire from only music by the age of 55 between 60. They all die or go broke living in a car/RV. There's so much investing you must do outside of music in order to have a retirement plan.
@TonyThomas10000
@TonyThomas10000 Год назад
@@itsrelativ3967 And many of the successful ones had their money stolen by agents and managers.
@JayfkProductions876
@JayfkProductions876 4 года назад
this perspective is onesided jon as beat sellers vary on sales doing good without chasing too much
@CEOGAMING829
@CEOGAMING829 4 года назад
Factssss
@sarahvlo
@sarahvlo 4 года назад
Inspiring
@oledahl.
@oledahl. 4 года назад
Barry Samphier indeed! 😃✌️
@Dikkedimi
@Dikkedimi 3 года назад
time for a retrospect?
@chrisridenhour
@chrisridenhour 4 года назад
It is/was possible to make a living with music with PROs such as ASCAP and BMI supporting us. But now some greedy networks like The Discovery Channel and Netflix are actively trying to circumvent the royalty system and screw over their composers from collecting performance royalties. It sets a horrible precedent. Once that spreads throughout the industry it’s RIP for us music creators.
@realgilla108
@realgilla108 4 года назад
keep going bro I'm inspired by you
@anthonynunez560
@anthonynunez560 4 года назад
Thanks for making the videos :)
@jannik9361
@jannik9361 4 года назад
thanks for the insight!
@mrdinjemek
@mrdinjemek 4 года назад
How does a label screw you, can you be more specific in a next video maybe
@kevinoriol
@kevinoriol 4 года назад
Thanks for the inspiration.
@Groho
@Groho 4 года назад
Was mir gefallen würde wäre eine Tutorialserie analog zu den Masterclass Sachen! Das was Armin van Buuren da macht könntest du zb auch anbieten - auf deinen Musikstil bezogen! Und vl sogar zusätzlich auf Deutsch... sowas gibts überhaupt selten!! Du hast das Equipment und du hast das Know How... Ich glaube das wäre eine weitere Top Einnahmequelle... ich würds mir jedenfalls was kosten lassen! 😉
@nomdutilisateurism
@nomdutilisateurism 4 года назад
So rad!
@idontknow-lc8bz
@idontknow-lc8bz 3 года назад
Can you talk about how much Spotify takes and how much you actually make?
@lukaskerf2760
@lukaskerf2760 4 года назад
Thank you for advices! If you’ll make your videos more like this one (shorter and without involving too much of your personal life) it will be way more useful for people and less time for video editing for you. Of course it’s just an advice from my point of view. Anyway thank you for all you doing! Sometimes thing you say are pushing me to move my ass a bit faster to make something=)
@sup_nim
@sup_nim 4 года назад
congratz brother
@Moonz-
@Moonz- 4 года назад
Good Knowledge as always!
@housemachine509
@housemachine509 4 года назад
Your doing great on RU-vid blessings J
@horstlippitsch
@horstlippitsch 4 года назад
Hast du einen Plattenvertrag? Oder vertreibst du deine Musik selbst? Braucht man in der heutigen Zeit überhaupt noch ein Label, da man ja heutzutage über die ganzen digitalen Anbieter alles selbst machen kann oder?
@Jonsine
@Jonsine 4 года назад
Mach beides je nach Song. Nen gutes label kann schon helfen.
@deez6102
@deez6102 3 года назад
Jon is a 🐐🐐🐐
@UltimateMoralizer
@UltimateMoralizer 2 года назад
This is why I decided to do the TEFL course. Music doesn’t put money on the table. There’s millions of underground conscious emcees who have more talent in their little finger than mainstream rappers do in their whole body, but they get no recognition because of their content. Screw the music industry and the close-minded morons in the hip-hop scene.
@7738guitmadness
@7738guitmadness 3 года назад
Impossibile is a word for Who does not make it😊
@gautamgunecha5963
@gautamgunecha5963 4 года назад
No money ! Either join Mr Walter White Classes or take lessons from Professor .
@damarezcurtis
@damarezcurtis 4 года назад
Best advice ever
@stanqrow1434
@stanqrow1434 4 года назад
Another question: does crowdfunding services like Patreon can be a good way for a musician to make incomes from his fans?
@Jonsine
@Jonsine 4 года назад
Yes I used to do it at the beginning.
@aashhofficial
@aashhofficial 4 года назад
From their* fans
@6884
@6884 4 года назад
fuuuuck man are those Kii Three???
@stanqrow1434
@stanqrow1434 4 года назад
What do you think about huge k-pop entertainments? They earns hundreds million dollars. Why are they so successful?
@Alaniasty
@Alaniasty 4 года назад
Merch stats show that You have 14310 opinions from selling T-shirt that brings 307 000euros, or Am I mistaken?
@Jonsine
@Jonsine 4 года назад
hahah we made 5 shirt sales this year I don't know where you get your numbers from :)
@freiheitsmeinung28
@freiheitsmeinung28 4 года назад
Lasst euch nicht erzählen das man mit Musik oder irgendwas anderem an das Ihr glaubt, mit Geld machen kann! Die Leute verkaufen heutzutage Müllprodukte und machen damit Geld. Das heisst nicht das es einfach ist. Der Sinn dahinter lasst euch nicht so schnell von eurem Weg abbringen! MFG
@TheEstateOfHoHu
@TheEstateOfHoHu 4 года назад
Es stimmt aber leider. Ich habe von 2014 bis 2017 bei einem Künstler-Management gearbeitet, die einige namhafte deutsche Musiker betreuen. Und auch die können sich (nur von ihrer Musik) nicht mehr finanzieren.
@Matiazzak
@Matiazzak 4 года назад
Good luck! You are a man! Remember You from the beginning. Its time to build a family;). It motivates a lot
@mitjalubej6743
@mitjalubej6743 4 года назад
Save the day is amazing my man!
@aphexish
@aphexish 4 года назад
Is that custom desk?
@sanjeelvasta8540
@sanjeelvasta8540 4 года назад
how to upload song on youtube channel after releasing on a distributor?
@kaiaphasful
@kaiaphasful 4 года назад
how expensive is insurance for your gear and this place? you said you also rent the studio so strangers come in. did things got stolen from you? do you have a video security system or something?
@Jonsine
@Jonsine 4 года назад
We never had any items stolen we have a safety deposit insurance is fairly low
@anthonyb8994
@anthonyb8994 4 года назад
So basically your music can suck as long as your an Instagram model with a couple hundred thousand followers... Or you could always sell your soul for fortune and fame. I hear the price when down tho since everyone is doing it. Just be prepared when the devil comes to collect.
@anthonyb8994
@anthonyb8994 4 года назад
@happy pibble Thats what someone with over 16yrs of experience WORKING in the industry that has songs with famous ppl says. Name any top Artist and they could pull a bumb off the street and make him a top 10 artist. Its not about talent these days look how big 69 got and he is completely trash. you can make anybody a star with the right connections. Money talks and bullshit walks
@oledahl.
@oledahl. 4 года назад
Anthony B I totally agree with you sir!
@ReddyReddy-yn5uf
@ReddyReddy-yn5uf 4 года назад
U r still great atleast u have started
@Alaniasty
@Alaniasty 4 года назад
You forgot about Patreon and mixing/mastering service ...
@JeromeBanaay
@JeromeBanaay 2 года назад
Music is free that's why its hard to make money on it
@groundhog7871
@groundhog7871 4 года назад
Very interesting. But I never thought that the Music alone makes you the money. But do it for music Not for the money do it with Passion
@George-fk3yq
@George-fk3yq 4 года назад
big week on the gear m8
@hitsbygruv2188
@hitsbygruv2188 4 года назад
dope... All due respect if you don't mind me asking, whats your age? Only asking because you brought it up early in the video. #respect. #keepworkingkeepwinning
@avatr7109
@avatr7109 4 года назад
So should i also Do Jobs and sidebyside do music? anyones here has experience with that?
@poorkidd
@poorkidd 4 года назад
Pickarius I Doordash, and Uber on the side. Tried a paper rout but was to much commitment.
@Kjohny44
@Kjohny44 4 года назад
it's not impossible
@palashkonde4912
@palashkonde4912 4 года назад
U should not tend to make money through music....u should should just enjoy making music and anyone other things can't give the happiness like music does not even money✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
@jmajortronic8443
@jmajortronic8443 4 года назад
Das ist irgendwie nichts neues... Die ganzen großen DJ‘s verdienen ja auch hauptsächlich durch ihre Gigs und productplacements.
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