The way that the sword is used is by swinging not thrusting. You are correct about how thrusting is a big issue but the swords fighting style isn't supposed to be used to thrust. It's made to be used to swing. Think of it as more of a broadsword rather then a rapier.
Yea I did actually film a bit (that I didn't end up putting in) where I talked about the fact that it would make sense if the paladins used a fighting style that never used any thrusts, unfortunately Keith uses thrusts constantly so that's ruled out.
I would suspect that the grip would have more friction and the blade would be heavier than a simple wooden blade which wouldn't make it flop around as much if at all. I've also noticed that your guard doesn't touch your hand while Keith's actually clasps his hand from the side which would also stop it from moving so much
Kendrick Hering the weight would be a problem still even if the grip held his hand, due to the fact if it was deflected down he would still loose grip and it would be harder to get back into place.
I just watched the very first episode of Voltron, it seems pretty cool. I expected a lion running around in space to look cringy, but they manage to make it look epic
They said the Bayard makes a weapon that suits you so I guess their weapons are specifically meant for them and their skill set so Keith can use it better than anyone. Also maybe the handle has some sort of grip or something that stops rotation idk.
This is something I've been wondering about though as Zarkon's bayard can change to different forms... so is it more like those are the only ideas they can come up with? A sort of imagination theory here.
KibbesNBits yeh maybe something similar to Green Lantern rings. Also Zarkon is more experienced then the others so he knows how the bayard works in different ways than just one
This is exactly what I've been saying (just in better words) I think the designers purposly designed his sword to be difficult to use because he does get disarmed and out numbered a lot. Their weapons take a different form depending on the paladin using it so my theory is that it's difficult to use so that other team mates have to back him up. He's a loner and he seems to want to be friends with the other paladins but does really open up to anyone that much so his sword encourages the others to come help him without asking them. It's also pointy and long with hard edges because he's prickly but it also gives the impression that he's intimidating and can handle everything himself but actually he needs friends ^_^
Wow that's a pretty intense theory. You might be right. I feel like maybe there is just a certain type of fighting style that you need to learn to correctly use this weapon and he is too stubborn to learn it
if this was the case why would his bayard take form to something he would never learn how to use? if it transforms to fit the paladin's skill set, personality, ect, ect. the bayard wouldn't take form to something that was out of his capability to learn+, especially if it was something as evident as his stubbornness that would cause him to be unable to properly use his weapon. also, keith is stubborn for most things but when it comes to something needed for voltron/the greater good he repeatedly in the series shows willingness to accept his flaws, learn from the mistakes he made, and improve. he might be stubborn but generally doesn't put others in danger, especially if it would jeopardize voltron in some way (which would put the entire galaxy in jeprody), like not learning how to use his weapon would. just my thoughts tho, could be wrong.
Lucas Repp but thinking about it the lions put Keith in the black lion when literally anyone else could've done it better and just found a new paladin if they didn't know what to do with him so I'm not 100% sure the lions care whether or not they're jeopardizing the universe anymore :') I can imagine them giving him a sword he won't learn how to use properly right away. But even so I'm pretty sure even if there was a better way of using it he couldn't defend himself all that well and still have the same problems
Friggin Boom Toys thank you! He probably is stubborn and impatient enough to not try to use it properly actually :') but even if there was a better way of using it I'm imagining it's still going to be to use to defend yourself with And wouldn't it still flip if somebody struck it from above or below? Even if he swung it? (I don't know much about swords though :I)
Good thing Keith fights more slashy-slashy than stabby-stabby. Also, you'd need some crazy hand/wrist strength to fight with that thing. Nice video dude!
However, this sword is actually based of what keith is best with. Yes, this would be a terrible shape to give a swordman to fight with but keith, he seems perfectly capable of wielding the sword, cause after all, it was made for him.
There is one key point you missed to the bayard. The fact that they can form/de-form it at will. So as the blade starts to deflect at an awkward angle, Keith can de-form the blade, then reform it quickly in position. Note: Episode in season 3 where during a fight Keith actually deforms the blade from one hand then re-forms the blade in the other catching his opponent off-guard.
i completely agree with your logic on the sword but their are a couple of weapons that DO have perpendicular handles such as the "pata" sword of course they look vastly different from the one you built for obvious reasons
It always seems weird to me the looks and the way Keith hold this sword. Zarkons sword is more functional. Its also a bayard. I think its a matter of sword fight style or something maybe Keith has a double articulation we dont know nothing abt that allows him to use that thing XD
So this might be a long shot, but the bayards themselves have pretty thick diameters that don't seem to change after transforming. Do you think it'd be possible that the width of the grip and the "hand guard" could reduce the amount of space in which the sword could flop like that? I don't know a whole lot about katars, but Keith's sword seems decently similar. They seem to make a pretty tight space for knuckles and they haven't got this problem.
i have like four different discord chats where the mere mention of keith's bayard is enough to incite giant screaming fests, thank you for confirming what we all already suspected.
This video might just explain why Keith often magically transfers his bayard between hands mid-battle - he does it to avoid being hit by the rotation of the sword, reforming it in a better place and catching the enemies off guard.
I thought the same thing. The way the handle is placed would definitely be a problem, if used in a real life situation. Even if you do have fast reflexes, it'd still take some times to be able to reposition it back into your hand, and once your opponent know this, it'll be easier for them.
The way you stand on the wood while you're cutting it is SUCH an Aussie thing to do.When you started talking I thought you sounded Australian, but when you did that, I was like 'yep, definatly an aussie'
I've been thinking about this ever since I saw his weapon I knew something was wrong with the way you had to hold it but I couldn't quite place my finger on why it was so bad so thanks for this (Also, casually making a sword)
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The shape of the handle on this sword would have bothered me if it was literally any other sword than one that magically appeared from advanced space tech. I was just kind of figured it was heavy when it needed to be, light where I needed to be, and maybe even more firmly attached to Keith's hand when we were aware of.
I'm glad someone addressed this! I've been thinking about this almost every time I see him use it. Keith thrusts a lot and swinging it would make sense but even holding it forward for a thrust feels like it would fall forward unless you have a super strong grip.
I believe the sword uses more of a "slash" technique rather than the "thrust" that you demonstrated in the video which would make it less likely to do the flip in his hands. Although I agree, the first time I saw Keith's sword I thought the same thing
i honestly think its because of some variation of the "double edged sword" meaning. it would be hard for a kid to pick up, but someone who pays enough attention would be able to figure this out. To be honest, this video is what ive been looking for! thanks!
I think the grip/handle/pommel of the Bayard is actually rounded as opposed to a rectangular prism, as you have it. I don't know if this would make it easier or harder to keep level if thrusting, but I assume it would have a least some effect. Also, the Bayards could very well have grips to help prevent the issues you described.
I would think that the grip on the sword would be more squared or boxy so its easier to hold on to as well as their gloves to both soften the squared edges and also keep a better grip. Just my theory
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Keiths gloves would probably act as enough grip to stop the sword from swinging though. Plus the bayard would’ve probably automatically had a grippy bit on the end since they have to be durable weapons.
Hey so I was watching the show and I noticed in 1x09 when Keith is fighting the training robot as Lance is being sucked out into space, Keith's grip on the sword changes from being perpendicular with the blade to being horizontal like what you typically see with swords... looks like not even the animators can decide how the sword works XD
oh my ancients, you've no idea the rants my friends & I have had over the ridiculousness of Keith's bayard. We've basically, for our sanity, decided it must be a Galra thing with the help of Altean technology magnetism science, since that's how the seats have been explained as holding the Paladins in place without them being thrown around in the lion's cockpits
Make a seahawks sword with the seahawks as the blade please and make it long, thin, skinny, and curved at the blade for the beak. Also add the colors of the seahawks on the grip and the blade a little please.
I love seeing all your builds and cosplay and stuff but this kind of video was also really interesting to see from you and I really enjoyed it. A RU-vidr named Skallagrim does similar videos like this where he takes analyzes what works and doesn't about swords and weapons from tv and movies so if you were ever looking for similar kinds of videos he also does that kinda thing
i am nowhere near even slightly experienced with swords but i know a fair bit about keiths sword as i have been educated from my own viewing of the show and my friends who know about actual weapons and his weapon is a fairly good one as keith mainly swings his swords and doesn't thrust, you're right; thrusting would create an issue but he swings his sword
I may not know much about swords but I do know a lot about fantasy and sci-fi. Keith's sword is made out of a metal with some sort of magic in it, something we on earth cant understand, so that could play into why Keith can use it so effectively in the show
Yea there must be something going on. I wasn't really trying to say the show was wrong, just that there is more to the sword then we now about because in the real world this sword wouldn't work.
Well yea SOMETIMES it does. Sometimes he gets parried, sometimes blocked. The sword works like light SOMETIMES depending on plot really. The weight seems to change a lot also.
Definitely something I was thinking about while watching the show. I just assumed that Kieth was experienced enough to learn how to counteract that particular weakness with the Bayard. It is actually like the Katar dagger, which of course was used for a thrusting motion no doubt, but I would think that any experienced user has already thought about the possibility of the sword being deflected. I would hope anyway. Basically my geek reasoning for trying to get you not to think about it so much Lol
Great that you made a sword and credited a metallurgist. Granted if Keith uses his sword like that, he'd be a goner. But, I don't think Kieth thrusts with his sword like that though, with his knuckles facing upward but outward. He trains in his space time and would have easily figured this our. Perhaps if you'd try that again with knuckles facing outward from your body, the sword may seem to offer more resistance than a regular one when deflected by an opponent.
Maybe Keith has giant powerful hands that can wield this sword That's actually terrifying to thing about A man actually being able to use this blade and not face that issue of deflecting I'd probably scream "WITCHCRAFT" and run away.
Watching Keith's fighting style, it seems that if his sword is hit perpendicularly he accommodates for the force of the hit by carrying the force of the upwards or downwards rotation, bending his elbow to minimize the range of it. he also steps back slightly, and in this time period he's not only corrected his stance but also used the inertia of his opponent's attack to increase the power of his next one
Adding on to this, we can assume Keith has been fighting with a dagger longer, which uses a different range of motion in order to make up for the force exerted by the offensive party on a smaller object
