I salute Dr. Peter Sanlon and his principled stand for the way the scriptures have been understood and interpreted on these divisive issues. Educated, gracious and thoughtful people such as he are cause for us to stop and ponder the seemingly inexorable tide of liberalism and permissiveness which now seems to characterise Western society, and which is now beginning to re-define denominations such as the CofE.
I live in the southwest of England, and man... biblically sound and gospel centred churches are a hard to find luxury. I really don't know what to do. Pray for me and my family please. God bless you all.
A thoughtful consideration no doubt. Well done brother. I removed my family from an Evangelical Church in 2000 because I refused to listen to pastors telling their people to give up thinking and use more faith. I was and remain a Bible teacher to our family and others. We are inspired by men like Francis Schaeffer and Adolf schlatter and many others. God bless from New Zealand.
I left the Anglican Church because I was sick of the immorality, bullying, cover up and false teaching. I live in Sydney where the Anglican Church thinks it is evangelical but us far from it.
I heard Martyn Lloyd Jones preach twice; he wrote two booklets on this subject, The State of The Nation and The State of The Church, highly recommended.
@@SOLAplatform It seems so long ago now; some of us turned up at church one Good Friday, only to find there was no service, so we jumped into a car, drove to the Elephant and Castle and went to Spurgeon's Tabernacle instead, where he was preaching, or rather, teaching. His subject was that Jesus' suffering did not end on the cross but continued for a while in Sheol.
Thank you for this information, I am so saddened by the departure of biblical truth in the Church Of England. I am living in a small village and there is not a Free Church Of England. I am worshipping in a church on a military base. We have different chaplains, as they are usually here for three years or so. It is interdominational. If this teaching is brought I shall leave.
I hear the people who say they are called to stay and I applaud them. For myself I cannot spend all of my energies fighting the very establishment that should support biblical truth. I prefer to use every second of my life to sharing the gospel with the lost and making sure that those who receive Christ are properly discipled . In all honesty I don't believe I could recommend the Church of England as a place for new Christians to be discipled.
My father resigned from the C of E in the early 1970s believing it to be an apostate church even then, accomodating, as it did and continues to do, those who deny the diety of our Lord Jesus Christ.
I thought of leaving the Church of England but the I believed that God was leading me to stay. The church is my missionary field. If all the good people leave it is a great loss for the church. Please stay and help make the C of E a place where pilgrims get spiritual help.. Anyway that is my calling. Your calling maybe different.
I whole heartedly agree. God led you with many of us to stay and not give in to division caused by liberalist tosh and reactionary sectarianism. Thank God for all the clergy that stand their ground and do not jump ship.
I tried, and failed. You are simply isolated and ostracised if you try to oppose. No point in trying to administer medicine to the dead, nor is there any hope in trying to put out a house fire with a glass of water. The force of the swinging pendulum is too much. I wish you the best.
After watching this video, the expression Divide and Conquer comes to mind. Don't let the devil win, have faith, stick together and work together in the love of Christ.
Whatever happens to the church of England, they who misinterpreted the Holy Bible will themselves have to answer for whatever they add or take away to suite themselves. I'm an Anglican here in South Africa.
As a lifelong Christian I agree that the bible and gospel should not be diluted or compromised, but should be imparted to children and people that have not been brought up in a Christian family, in ways that they can understand. More ways should be found to reach these people and introduce them to Jesus, rather than preaching to the few converted every Sunday. This can't be done by leaving the church, but by getting out there and doing it. I am 72 now and from the age of 16 I have seen congregations decline and churches close in the area I was brought up in. Today's church has got to move forward in grace and address this. If the church does not reach out to children, then where does it's future lie.
I praise God for Peter's stand. I was very unhappy with the way things were going in the Church of England. First I believed I had to stay for the benefit of some brothers and sisters in Christ and this belief I carried into retirement. But clearly it was impossible to stay in the midst of such liberalism and compromise. In January of 2019 I was invited to preach at an independent chapel and experienced what was quite a revelation of the sheer purity of the Christian faith. I now rejoice in a freedom I had not experienced before. I am now part of a small fellowship working simply for the glory of God and love of the risen Jesus.
I am probably not the best person for all of you to be talking with (!), or hearing from - given the types of producers, and advertising and marketing companies I have worked with in the past, and the types of work I edit now. However, as you must all surely know, the top six or seven directorates of the CIA have recently been turned over to women - real women, I should hasten to say - and 'some people in the public space' have been tasked to produce an effective vision of a female perspective of let's just say 'political and social/ideological' a media and entertainment character, in order to counter the current agenda that is referred to in the video above. By no means at all, has this subversion of churches, education, and mass media culture over the last thirty or so year been a simply accident of history, though nor is it some kind of new quietly creeping Marxist thing either - which could be fairly easily countered. You are on the right track. None of this was just an 'ideological disagreement,' nor any kind of happenstance of history. It is rooted in things quite far away from the standard 'conspiracy theories' about Communism, Freemasons, Rothschilds, Reptilians(!), Illuminati and all of that; but of course it is possible to see how groups with large social reach and ideas about education and religion are recruited to leverage power. Things will slowly come out, but for now it's as important to know you from others - independent observers - that you are reacting to a real and malicious altering of values and value systems - and which has been quite deliberate. I am such an observer who will tell you, THAT YOU ARE RIGHT.
For God does not change... He is the same yesterday, today and always. (Now, perhaps research into the truth about which actual day of the week is the true Sabbath... worship any day of the week is good... but what about remembering the Sabbath. Who changed the Sabbath to Sunday????... I am concerned) 💖
It is not that anyone is "leaving the Church of England". It is that the Church of England has left the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Therefore, if you are a Christian you have no choice but to leave any denomination or church that is in apostasy. The teaching of The Holy Bible are clear and not complicated addressing the value of human life from conception to natural death. Jesus Christ came to give us "Life and Life more abundantly". The Word is clear that there is only one way to Heaven. That Muslims, atheist, et al are going to Hell. This saddens us. That is why we have the Great Commission. But, churches/denominations that say there are "many ways to Heaven" HATE the lost. They hate those in sexual sin. They hate women by denying their correct place in the marriage relationship. In fact, many denominations/churches today are surrogates for the Devil.
The CoE is a great and enlightened cultural institution, that has shown the survivors ability to adapt. Fundamentalism in Christianity, as in Islam, is oppressive reaction to the death of a social status quo, and the beliefs that support it.
The Church’s one foundation is Jesus Christ her Lord; She is His new creation by water and the word; From heaven He came and sought her to be His holy bride; With His own blood He bought her, and for her life He died. Though with a scornful wonder men see her sore oppressed, By schisms rend asunder, by heresies distressed, Yet saints their watch are keeping, their cry goes up , “How long?” And soon the night of weeping shall be the morn of song!
Why, at 09:58, when interviewing one priest, do you show lapel pins of another priest, showing the non-Christian occult symbol of a hexagram? I think you have made an association of that interviewee with that symbol. "Tainted by association"? You also misrepresent Anglo-Catholicism by identifying it with the "liberals" who represented themselves as such. If you would be historically accurate, you would acknowledge that the Free Church of England did NOT come about as a reaction against the "liberalism" of the men whose books you showed. It was formed much earlier as a partisan reaction of a particular kind of Protestantism hostile to some authentic Anglican doctrine and practice which they disliked because it was not Protestant enough ( although it was in continuity with those of the historic Church of England). For a true representation of the Anglo Catholic position on the Thirty Nine Articles, I recommend you read Bishop Alexander Penrose Forbes' book on the Thirty Nine Articles.
Why leave? Matthew 24 Jesus told us when we see the abomination of desolation in the temple flee! Drag shows may not be THE abomination but it certainly is AN abomination.
This was an absolute joy to watch and thank you so much for sharing this amazing moment. God richly bless Rev Peter, His wife and the entire family for standing up to the truth that can never be broken!!! Btw, I became a subscriber today and I look forward to more interesting videos Many thanks and glory be to our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.
I truly believe that his decision to leave the Church of England was the right one. Only he did not go far enough. He should have got out of organized religion altogether. Any thinking person can find his own spirituality without an organized religion with all of its creeds and dogmas.
As a poor working class lad in London, I was grateful to be part of a marvellous, loving Christian church. It introduced me to loving relationships, Biblical Studies and languages, literary analysis of texts, thinking about the big questions of life and choral music. This opened up for me a much broader experience than I had at home. Yet having studied at degree level at univetsity, I found the world opened much further. But I can no longer try to live with a first century mindset and according to a book which is rooted in the culture and thought world of two thousand years ago. My interest and fascination with the Bible and Religious Studies and the deep existential questions of life remains. But I can no longer try to live as a first century person. I am a 21st century person and any faith must be a 21st century faith. The Church trapped in the first century is not relevant or supportive or helpful to people of today like my gay son and his husband, who would never, ever go near a church. Sorry, but all this quibbling over what most would regard as jots and tittles is just irrelevant.
This sounds like you don’t like Christianity. Perhaps Unitarian Universalism or Baha’i are closer to what you’re talking about if you want a religion that cares about adapting to the times and can accommodate your interests. Otherwise: ““Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.” Matthew 5:17-18 NKJV
@@pcarr1382 I am still very much interested in Biblical Studies and Christianity and I agree that to timeless wisdom can be found in ancient traditions. But I can no longer commit myself to being a member of the Church. I would also say that views opposing our own are often useful in assessing what we have come to believe. So my interest in religion and in Christianity especially continues.
Brian Simons While traditional Christianity is the truth and this makes me pretty sad at least you’ve reached the point of consistency and resolution. Hopefully your studies can bring you around to the path that the faithful has walked prior to the Enlightenment (and for that matter the way the rest of the world has walked too).
Brian Simons The Truth is very plain . The word “mindset” is open to deception. Of course, mindset will be a more comfortable thing for you today, but the Truth is always the Truth however inconvenient that may be.
PLEASE COME HOME TO THE FULLNESS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ⛪ YOUR SYMBOL SERVICES WILL BECOME THE EUCARIST ENOUGH REPENT NOW LISTEN TO HEART OF CHRIST HE PRAYED WE SHOULD BE ONE
You really ought to take a proper look at history and not make misleading statements "The Free Church of England broke away from the Church of England in the 19th century when the Anglo Catholics were welcomed into the Church and brought unfortunately some liberalism with them". The FCE website states that it was founded in response to the Anglo Catholicism of Henry Phillpotts the Bishop of Exeter. Phillpotts was in the longstanding High Church tradition. Both the High Churchmen and the Tractarians were largely cradle Anglicans, affirming the Catholic continuity of the Church of England. They could not properly be described as proponents of liberalism, nor as being a foreign group being "welcomed into the Cof E". I think you may find (and I do not have full knowledge of the Free CoE), that the Free church was more concerned to be more exclusively Calvinistic and was intolerant of High Church tradition, which was far from being "liberalism". Phillpotts himself was at one point hailed by the Low Church as being a champion of Protestantism against Romanism. Liberalism began to influence some Anglo Catholics at a later date, and this was opposed by the High Churchmen and the Tractarians, those who might be called the true Anglo Catholics. It seems very doubtful that liberalism among Anglo Catholics was the issue for the founders of the Free CoE in 1844. It may have been more sacramental doctrine?
Thank you "anselman". Are you not willing to write under your real name? I get your point, thank you.Do you know what these "high Church" Anglo Catholics' views were on the presence of Christ in the eucharist and justification?
@@SOLAplatform From the little I have read about the current Free CoE, it appears they might not believe in real presence in the way that most Anglo Catholics do, and that they don't believe baptism always effects regeneration. High Church and Anglo Catholics believe in baptismal regeneration, and this is the doctrine of the Book of Common Prayer. The BCP wording also states that in the Communion we eat the flesh and drink the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ. Within the CoE, historically, there appear to have been various views on the eucharistic presence, influenced perhaps by Lutheranism, Calvinism and Zwinglianism. The Church only officially rejected a particular popular Roman understanding of Transubstantiation, whilst allowing for other ways of speaking of the change in the elements. There was also a "receptionist" view which held that the presence was dependent on the worthiness of the recipient. My knowledge is not extensive, but I think that some pre-Tractarian High Churchmen may have held some of the varying views, including receptionism. The Tractarian Scottish Bishop Alexander Penrose Forbes was tried for heresy because of teaching the real presence, but was exonerated. There is an interesting collection of Anglican views on the Eucharist online, called Anglican Eucharistic Theology, showing the writings of various historical figures. As for justification (again I have only limited knowledge), I think High Church views might have varied somewhat, but there were those who rejected the Lutheran idea that justification was a merely external thing and did not involve an interior change in the person. Also, the Prayer Book speaks of the faith that justifies as being a "lively faith", which might be understood as being faith active in obedience to God, as faith without works is dead. Protestants, Calvinist and Lutheran, seem to have some confusion on the matters of justification, regeneration and sanctification. Their objections to baptismal regeneration in every case of baptism seems to be due to the erroneous understanding of election and predestination, but that's another big subject. I wish you well in researching more of the history of Anglican doctrine. As I say, I am not an authority, but I think what I have said is fairly accurate. My best wishes to you.
Jesus did not found the Catholic Church and even if he did it wouldn’t matter, as it has long since been corrupted and teaches various doctrines totally contrary to the contents of the Bible
"Answer not a fool according to his folly lest he be wise in his conceit'. It is impossible to argue against ingrained bigotry, so it is impossible to answer your comment here, unless i were to indulge in a very long argument indeed. God bless... but try to prevent your bigotry from clouding your judgement.
@@nicholasreid1836 That is not bigotry. You are misusing the word. The RC "Church" is infested with false doctrine like a termite-riddled plank of wood.
@@scottpalmer9475 Dear Troll - as I said correctly , one cannot argue against ingrained bigotry. Think carefully. In the largely secular society in which we now life, ANY Christian doctrine is likely to be labelled as "infested with false doctrine like a termite-riddled plank of wood", because more of society now rejects ALL Christian teaching, Catholic, Protestant, Eastern Orthodox etc. I beg you not to resort to saying that your version of Christianity is somehow more "authentic" than Catholic Christianity. If so, you are likely to go down the shaky fundamentalist path ("we hold only to the Bible" etc.) ignoring the fact that the New testament itself grew out of diverse doctrines..PS I have never heard of a bigot who admits to his bigotry. He always asumes that he is speaking the plain truth.
@@Chris_Sheridan Sorry Chris, but a flippant one-liner doesn't respond to the issues I raised. Intelligent arguments can't be nullified by mere insult.
I do disagree with you! You don't give up on or abandon The C of E because of the troubling Progressive influences. Resist it!! Division is a slippery slope that will continue to divide over time until there's nothing much left....
These people denied the authority of the Fathers of the early church. People with a physical connection to Jesus like all protestants. They started their own churches and shattered the church into 1000s of pieces. Against the will of God.
I'm afraid that a lot of the attitudes displayed here are perfect examples of I find most repellant about religion - any religion (yes, some Moslems and some of the Jewish faith also). It's the arrogant certainties that in the past led to appalling religion - based persecutions and in the present make life miserable for those not of the stnadard sexuality in almost all the Middle East and in many countries in Africa. And which also try to hobble scientific advance in the USA, in Turkey and in many other regions where religion interferes in politics. Religion needs to show some humility and give due credit to those aspects of modernism that are humane and liberating, which for instance allow those on the LGBTQ+ spectrum to come out into the open. You can surely live the Gospel without continuing in the spirit of the persecutors we thought consigned to history. Holy Book literalism is the curse of ALL religions!
Indeed, you are right. It is especially shameful how preachers who should know better continue to neglect modern biblical and archeological research in their teaching, willfully continuing to keep the laity in ignorance of real learning.
I am confused by these remarks. You quote a group speaking of the 'foolishness and powerlessness" of the gospel (12:40) as leading inquisitions? You highlight the importance of moral relativism and then the importance of science that is predicated on the presumption of a single truth? I obviously don't know you but you seem very angry at the world? We certainly wish you the best and hope that you can continue a search for the truth. Peace
Start by getting rid of those "old covenant" gowns. Under the new covenant, which we are under, all believers are priests. Do you really think that Jesus, Paul, Pete re John etc. wore those "religious" gowns. Watch a you tube video of Dick Reuben (a messianic Christian) who preaches on the priestly gowns and learn what they represent. Christians are all equal and don't need "pride"
You guys should follow the Church founded by Jesus Christ which is a Catholic Church. Don’t invented Churches by Peter or Calvin. The Church of England is founded by a denominations. You guys are very happy for division instead of unity
@sabaghebreghzabhier .. the Catholic Church has some very liberal and corrupt priests that the Vatican just moved around from place to place where they continued the largest scale of child abuse ever found with the Pope's blessing. Spotlight ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EwdCIpbTN5g.html
