Why LEBRON Is The Goat, NOT Michael Jordan! | Gilbert Arenas Breakdown 

😂😂😂💀 I couldn’t make it through that. This man said there strategy against Lebron was to leave a nba player open 😂😂😂. You talking about the same Lebron who’s arguably the best all time at finding the open man and with a great pass. I can’t 🤦🏾‍♂️ Then this man said they left Damon Jones the same Damon Jones that can only hit the OPEN THREE😂 You right about one thing mj ain’t never played against competition that trash. Going into the game thinking you can’t win with the worst game plan of all time lmaaaooo. I’m done

@@desomusicinc I love how we act like mid 80s and early 90s ball was the best thing smoking...smh...Jordan's own team was coming in out of shape, so that let's you know the state of "competition" the league had. It's a reason NBA was needing to raise it's profile.

@@desomusicinc he's so delusional bru. MJ is emperor

This dude done loss his mind

Man Jordan did that his whole career...I can't believe he just said that

He has a podcast. And knowledge is shared

Fr hes an actual hooper, and actually knows the game instead of bringing stats up

Only reason why he’s not is because he talks about the actual game and that’s not appealing to the masses...all ESPN and Fox analysts either don’t know what their talking about or they dumb themselves down for the casuals

The same guy who said Luka was not gonna make it in the NBA? Yeah, super great "analyser".

@@imkotable lol gilbert can get a little crazy sometimes with the physics and athleticism. I bet if Larry bird came in as a 19 year old euro player in the nba today. Then gilbert would say the same. Also about jerry west and other players not as physically impressive guys even tho guys like bird and luka are 6 8, 6 9, 6 10. But yes that was quite the bad take.

Nodding his head and sippin that milkshake or whatever ahah

Gilbert has already made his appearance on Club Shannon (skip not invited)

Him breaking this down don't make him right about it. Greatest of this era Lebron can have all day, he earned that. But it's impossible to have a "goat" because the style & rules of the game keeps changing. The greatest of the era is the best we can hope to get that actually makes sense!💯💯💯

@@chiefdymondwolf6764 # LebrongoatofthisERA

@@OnewYork fasho!

I liked Arenas as a player, but he can only sell this garbage to fans of The Choke.

@@wv8071 And you guys only follow other haters, Keep kissing Jordan

@@oof3479 Ladies and Gentlemen.....I give you "THE GOAT" Michael Air Jordan!

@@wv8071 Yeah hes def top 5 but I have a diff opinion just as you and I respect just don’t hate on Bron for no reason

@@oof3479 I got every reason to have a lack of respect for your boy. His whole persona is fake.

Jordan won 6 titles cuz the Bulls had 2 top 5 players in an era that didn’t have super teams. The Spurs and Warriors are better than any team Jordan ever beat.

Also MJ (and Kobe) got all defense teams cuz they were guards. So much easier getting it as a guard than a forward.

@@noahhanft7982 actually no. How is it easier to get for a guard?? You could argue the opposite. And no Jordan did not have a top 5 player every single year he won the chip Especially in 1998 when pippen was hurt all playoffs.

@@luminousrxk7288Okay but who was mj playing? Mj was cooking all of those guys cus they sucked. The only team lebron lost to he shouldnt have lost to is the mavs.

@@luminousrxk7288exactly, lebron went against real good players. you notice that MJ when he went against larry bird and magic in thier prime (80’s - 90’s) he never won a single championship. he only started winning when they was old and lebron went against kevin durant, curry, timduncan, allen iverson, kobe, kawai, and more.

He even asked to be an intern assistant coach for the Lakers. Free of charge 😂

I hope he gets it. He's going to be a great coach

literally said nothing new for us watching LBJ since highschool

@Michael Jordan 😂 jordan ain't making those cavs teams better than lebron that's pure cap

@Michael Jordan mj quit on his team, the league and the fans twice...

Yup he Gives the best analysis based off of fact context and situations and not bias emotional childhood memories

True I really like hearing him talk about the game of basketball he really know his stuff. He hit it right on the head with Lebron being the goat

These arguments against Jordan don’t add up. Arenas only played against 40 year old Wizards Jordan with a severed finger and bad knees. Different eras so can’t compare. He acts like Jordan only knew how to score. Gimme a break! Jordan has ten times more sensational big moments in the playoffs. The public and even NBA players today pick Jordan and it isn’t even remotely close. Yeah, Arenas is a smart guy,huh? So smart he brought guns to the locker room to put heat on another player. Downright stupid!

@@baylenjessup4719 he was a mutiple first roud exist in the playoffs they do add up u will bring him bringing guns into the arguement? yall mj fans will do anything stfu and look at the stats :)

@@baylenjessup4719 oh you big mad😂😂😂

You know you _ain't_ the GOAT when you've been to The Finals nine times and lost SIX of them.

@@mj23goat3Out of those 6 losses only one of them was actually his fault. Rest can be chalked up to barely no help exempt 2016 even though besides Kyrie, only Tristian Thompson was scoring double digits. Was the only one showing up against the Spurs on the cavs, and him and Wade were the only ones stepping up when they won a ring. Stop it.

@@ihatecrowbars3572Oops. I actually misspoke. It's TEN times and lost six of them. And when you're supposedly the GOAT, it's ALWAYS your fault that your team lost. Which is why he AIN'T the GOAT.

The bulls is the best team of all time that don't Jordan is the best player lmfao championships are TEAM STATS You don't wanna talk about ​Points Ast Blocks Steals He kill mj in every category thats for players@@mj23goat3

U lucky to have Gil as a coach, mans is gifted

Your coach brother i thought u were a rapper

Was your name?

@@jlove1945 😂😂😂😂

Condolences on your career. I think we both know you're not pro.

The Goat never calling himself Goat idiot, everybody know that Jordan is Goat but Lebron is jst calling himself Goat but no one admit lol, this is the link ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VDV2qe7uUMo.html

@@phucjack1334 only an idlot would consider a choke artist like jorfraud to be the goat

@@Bungycb Everything u said is jst tell u r an idiot and jeolously, come on kid if u ask ur mom who is the greatest basketball player of all time the answer will always Jordan ok

@@phucjack1334 when I asked your mom who her greatest lover was she always said me

@@phucjack1334 when I asked the person who gave birth to you who her greatest love was she said me

👍 blinded by that street ball mentality of yesterYEAR, which has no place in "this era" of NBA

Killer mentality is many faucets of the game. # jordanfan

Dude makes good points but Jordan will always be the GOAT. If you haven't watched Jordan's career you will never ever understand why people call Jordan GOAT. Jordan dominated the NBA when he played. They changed the rules because of him. People who watch lebron will always feel he's the GOAT and i understand why because that's all they know. Its nothing Lebron has done or continue to do that impresses people who watched Jordan's career for the fact we can actually compare them. We got a chance to watch both of their careers. There is no comparison. They are two different players. Lebron is the best of this generation and he should be. Look at how weak the Nba is now compared to when Jordan played. Its sad. Jordan greatness is on a completely different level. Jordan had no weakness in his game. Its disrespectful to compare anyone to him. Jordan will forever be the True GOAT. Accept it.

@@BallSoHard78 the NEW era NBA aint weak, they play the game the RIGHT WAY .. the OLD ERA brought that "playing on concrete, in the park" slug fest, disrespectful type BS .. which is exactly why the NBA rules in "this era" changed for the better ... out with the "old" in with the NEW you oldheads got grandchildren 😂 go sit down, YOU had your turn

#LebrongoatofourERA

He “single handedly” whooped “your team” with no Arenas/Butler that year, and then an old Pistons team with no Ben Wallace/coach Brown. Have a feeling you weren’t born yet or were too young to remember.

@@eazyduzit-tr3nx I was high school so I remember enough. He still whooped those teams so why make excuses? You just proved that you're older than me and still a LeBron hater 😅😅😅 I thought hating celebrities was something only teens do. Looks like you still got some maturing to do 🤷🏽‍♂️

@@CitizenoftheWorld1 ehh seems like you don’t, a Wizards “fan” who doesn’t even bring up no Arenas/Butler in that series. Hilarious. I just find it odd how LBJ fans are quick to bring up injuries when he loses to certain teams to excuse his losses but we can’t do the same against him? Also, how is me telling exactly what happened hating? Just say you’re a Bron groupie pretending to be a Wizards fan & that my comment offended you bc you’re that much of a Bron fan.

@@eazyduzit-tr3nx Wow very insightful.....All I said was he's a great player so that automatically makes me a LeBron groupie and a fake Wizards fan 🤦🏽‍♂️ Just admit you're a hater, ok boomer? I don't even think he's the GOAT, so you're wasting your time with me 👋

@@CitizenoftheWorld1 oh look the victim card...and all I said was that the Wizards were missing Arenas/Butler two very key important players. Just keeping it fair is all. LBJ fans love to point out injuries he had with teammates when he loses but we can’t do it for other teams he beat? I called you a Bron groupie bc of how defensive you got for him and how little you cared for your teams injuries. I call it how I see it but whatever, I’m done here •shrugs•

Larry Bird is the original bro....and the 1st

Chris Mullin you mean.

GSW fans know exactly who he is... he started his career with the warriors

Intergalactic facts bron had bums whose names we would never never know outside of a 1 year zeke in Cleveland. Jay leave bj armstrong is an all star pip 3 conference appearances. Cleveland players 0

Agree man. Haters are just hatin

It was the right play. It was the highest probability play. Most importantly, it was the sort of play that is the Lebron way. I am glad that he doesn't try to be like Jordan or Kobe. He is LeBron and the choices that he makes on court are the reason why he is so special.

There’s no hate. The Lebron system is great. But Magic was a tad better at running it. 5 out of 11 years is better. They both need killers to the left and right. It’s a good enough system. But there’s another system proven in Chicago and LA but that takes a different type of cat.

@@StraightLEFTfromPAC But that's a reasonless argument here. The original point was that LeBron made the absolute right play. Any pass to Kerr or Grant by MJ, if missed, would be a blemish to any commoner idiot fan. Bron made the correct call with more defenders on him than any player ever sees, and that's a fact.

@@Banned4Life Never said it was the wrong play. His success rate doing this is ok. But don’t say he’s a killer, ‘consistently’ takes over games when it’s close, never shrinks under big lights, on the line. Don’t say that tho. He’s really good, with a really good system. That’s it. For ex. over 50% of Federer’s majors came under close quarters. He pulled through. Great players don’t fold or rarely do. James has pulled through ok and enough with the pass first mentality. They were ok. I ain’t gonna hype higher than what it really was.

Skip Bayless always says when a player praises Lebron they have beef with Jordan. Well what about Gilbert? He lost to Lebron and they aren’t best friends for what I know so what can Skip use for this? Lol nothing 😂

Facts

@@coldwolf7014 I know he spit nothing but facts, most other players, *PAUL PIERCE ESPECIALLY,* would’ve just hated on him without acknowledging how great he is

Crazy bse when Jordan left Pippen had one good season and the next year he quit on the team bse he wasn’t wasn’t chosen for the last shot but kukoc was and nailed it. Pippen had the team out of playoffs and Jordan came bck and lead them to the playoffs but lost to magic.

I've always given Lebron his proper respect. I think MJ is the greatest but I believe Lebron will get more respect after he's done playing. However, this notion that MJ played on this bomb squad, all stars everywhere, Pippen ran the team, etc and then on the other hand Lebron carries everyone, it's all him. It's nonsense. Lebron has always had help and alot of it at that.

Fairly stupid take, given Jordan still averaged 5.3 assists per game. Sure, Jordan shot more at 22.9 attempts per game vs. 19.7, but that's only because LeBron can't shoot.

@@Xenon-h9z You know assists are last passes right? And don't show the reality of what happens on the court? Watch the games please don't be a box score watcher.

@@Xenon-h9z Not to mention that MJ (and Kobe) were _shooting_ guards. Their entire job is to SHOOT. By the way, Money is 3rd all-time in assists per game among pure SGs.

jordan was playing against washed up superstars and plumbers

Jordan never played the warriors 😂

@@HowlingHashibi True but he wouldn’t have ran to get superstars. Jordan faced a Celtics team with like 5 hall of famers. He lost, sure. But he ain’t run away from the competition 🤷🏾‍♂️

@@m.ahmed.y1723 Hakeem Olajuwon alone is already more skilled and athletic than any other big man in the game today not arguably named Jokic. The plumber argument is played out

@@bigcheech1937 naah dude giannis over hakeem all day

Facts

He’s amazing but I got Jordan #1

We look at a GOAT by how good they were in their prime, almost prime position, offence/defence and scoring. Longevity and injury does not affect GOAT status, especially since leBron is spending millions on health and longevity meanwhile MJ was stuck in a time of cigars and drugs, he’d even smoke a cigar before every game. MJ only needed one play style, and that style got him GOAT status, and “humble student”? What has this got to do with how good a player is, MJ was cocky and had a big ego because he was insanely good. LeBrons efforts outside the court have nothing to do with his skill. MJ is the GOAT and undeniably better at basketball.

Sorry forgot to mention as well, I don’t think you’ve seen enough of MJ playing because something both Lebron people and MJ people agree upon is that MJ is more athletic, it’s just fact. Not many people come close to Jordan’s athleticism.

@@l1ll4rd48 You clearly have a lot to learn about basketball and are undeniably influenced by mainstream sports channels. You speak of “we” as if you’re the entire world. You’re not. You’re just one man/woman. That being said, there’s obviously more to basketball than scoring. MJ was elite at scoring, there’s no denying that. But if you’ve ever played the game, then you remember the most joyous thing to play next to is an elite scorer and especially an elite passer. Conversely, if you play next to somebody who doesn’t pass (and there were countless moments where MJ refused to pass, I’ve seen the good, bad and ugly passing games of MJ), you’d tell him to stop hogging the ball! Prime is nothing, absolutely nothing compared to longevity. If a GM wants to build his team, why would he care about about a player’s prime or peak? He wants sustained excellence. If a company has a choice between hiring somebody with a prime or somebody who can give you years and years of excellent work and most of all availability, you’d know who’d they choose. Be honest with yourself. About the health thing, it’s astonishing to see how in-objective you are when you praise MJ’s habits of cigars and drugs and indict LeBron for taking care of his body, you know, the number one thing teammates/players/coaches ask you to do as part of your job. Being humble has got EVERYTHING to do in being good in LIFE let alone basketball. Having ego in any situation, especially in basketball is never appreciated. When it comes to skill, sure MJ has a better offensive package. Beautiful highlights. But that’s where it stops. Passing, chase-down blocks, defending all 5 positions (you’ve seen LeBron front the post and neutralize bigs in their prime), communicating, getting teammates involved. All skills LeBron possessed that are way superior than MJ’s footwork. There’s so much to teach you, but I’ll leave it with these couple of jewels. Look, it’s been a nice run for MJ, and he was phenomenal, but people are slowly waking up to the obvious fact that the bigger, faster, stronger, healthier, more unselfish and smarter LeBron James is the greatest basketball player of all time 👑

But only 4 Wins..

@@lr44810 Yes because his competition is adequate.

@@michaelwoods6272 His competition wasn’t adequate to get to the finals tho

@@edrushhh In '07 and 18?

@@bilindameen6302 What great team did he faced thoses years before reaching the finals?

Not only that, he played against Jordan as well

........you're literally Gen-Z trash.

Neither one played a prime Jordan.​@@Rctfy1

Worst comment ever

L it’s not true

I agree

@@wergooder Facts . I see you a Thinker also.

Jordan had no holes in his game.

@Michael Jordan jordan couldn't get out of the first round of the playoffs until he got Pippen on the squad

@@ingemarsmith4154 jordan never lost the finals not once is that not what a goat would do? Never lose when it really counts. You can’t use Lebron constantly going to the finals win or lose as a great accomplishment but overlook Jordan also going 6 times and never losing even 1. How is that not what a goat is never losing the big game?

@@Mir2Nastyy MJ was great. Not taking anything away from him. But I'm considering the situation. He had Pippen a team around him.

Sir ingemar I respect you so much for appreciating the new GOAT but Kevin Durant is the real GOAT than LeBron and Jordan

These takes are stupid all im going to say lebron is a second but not close to jordan im not javing a whole day conversation just read this if you see and to answer back ok because i have days and days of arguments all im saying

@Michael Jordan lool

He’s still wrong lol

@@sij809 and to be honest I think he deserves it.

He's not a basketball genius because there's a lot of basketball geniuses that would disagree with him...

@@dfkgym4400 you don't know much about the game of basketball

@@louburgunde9719 such as?

@@louburgunde9719 Genius is not confined to one point of view. Picasso can be a genius and paint COMPLETELY different than the genius that is Rembrandt. Just because some basketball geniuses have different points of view doesn't mean Arenas is not a genius.

When Jordan left for them 2 years the bulls was still a championship caliber team.

The Bulls would only be a 40 win team with prime Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman? Lol ok.

You the goat MaxIsNicee

@Christian Wood hope u get better goat wood 🙏 we need u to continue your historic run

Ain't the goat tho lmao

@@riquetc0060 he ain’t your goat

@@jemirtoussaint3440 Nah, he just ain't the goat in general.

no

So that’s just means most of Jordan’s losses came in the conference finals and earlier rounds lol, how is that a debate

@@spencerpremier There's no reasonable argument that Lebron is better than Jordan. Lebron had his chance and failed.

@@spencerpremier LECHOKE ONLY 4 RINGS IN 17 YEARS,NOT TO MENTION HE IS THE BIGGEST army deserter IN ALL TIME NBA HISTORY

@@spencerpremier lechoke missed 4 playoffs😂

My biggest thing about Arenas and all these lebron the goat fans fail to realize conference play. Its like Bron gets participation points as the goat for just making the finals. If everyone just took 5 to 10 mins to do some research of nba basketball after Jordan left Chicago the west actually won all but 5 of the first 20 nba finals, so what exactly does that say about the eastern conference. In fact it was so lopsided that in my eyes the final was between the lakers and spurs, lakers, dallas or GSW from 2000 to 2019 for the most part. We all expected that Cleveland team to be there in the end and to get smashed by one of those four teams. Also the proof in my argument is exactly why the allstar game format change when the west had 8 of the top 10 players in the league or so most seasons. The commissioner got tired of west winning the game 164 to 125 or so. Also the reason why they considered changing the nba playoffs format a few years ago because it wasn't fair for the #8 seed in the east to be 30 and 52 meanwhile #8 in the west was 44 and 28 or so. My point is lebron and those Cleveland teams wouldn't sniffed the finals in the west until he had Kyrie and Love and that possibly would've only happened one season or so

@@jamessims9298 okay but lebron don’t get discredit for making it to 8 straight finals. no matter how you want to look at it that is impressive. Also content matters. In the early 2000s lakers and spurs were the two super teams in that era. Then there were finals where the eastern teams were as good as the western teams. Packers vs lakers, spurs vs pistons, lakers vs Celtics, mavericks vs heat, warriors vs cavs first time were all Evenly matched teams. And you contradicted yourself by saying we all knew cavs will be in the finals yet saying it was spurs or lakers in the west in the finals. Both conference was dominated by a dynastic team. When warriors was winning it was always gonna be them in the finals. From 2000-2010 it was lakers or spurs coming out the west, from 2011-2013 was the only year the west was open. From 2015-2019 it was warriors easily. What made lebron run impressive is he held his dynastic run for 8 years

Yea but they don’t talk about that🤦‍♂️

@@UPxYOURs2 what about his first 8 years in the league they brush over that as well.

@@jamessims9298 What are you saying right now. You're talking out the side of your mouth. If you're going to try and diminish LeBron's success at least use facts. You are saying that LeBron wouldnt have made the playoffs most of the years if his team had the record they had but in the Western Conference, which isn't true at all. There is only one season the Cavs would not6 have made the Playoffs if that was the case and that was in 2008 when they were 45-37 which isn't bad and the West's 8th seed was 50-32. Just admit you're a hater because that's so sad that you would even put that out there to make what he's done less impressive.

That would be iverson actually

@@tonyavant1773 Can't really argue that one...

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, so is Gilbert Arenas. Now, you can't be the goat with 6 losses in the finals!!! But for Gilbert, Lebron is the goat just by making his teammates better? Yet those teammates failed you 6 times. Gilbert really has the best Breakdown of the GOAT argument. Wooow!

@@gallusuniverse805 well said

@@gallusuniverse805 I try the tell people the main reasonl why Lebron can’t be the goat because he has a losing record on the biggest stage Also it’s completely false that Kobe and Mike wouldn’t make it to the playoffs with the cavs roster when they did it with teams that was just a bad if not worse than what he had.

Jordan came at the perfect time era wise to get a ton of worldwide exposure like no superstar had before in the NBA and also benefitted from an incredible marketing campaign from Nike, again the first of its kind. If LeBron had played in that era and been in MJ’s shoes, I think he would’ve been similarly popular. I know what you mean though, I think Jordan is still the most well known player internationally, but it’s because of his play. A legendary mythical figure outside of their sport to me is someone like Ali or something and Jordan as a figure outside of basketball wasn’t quite as transcendent as that IMO 🤔

@xo 4u ok yea like now that's just not true lol, MJ would be an MVP candidate ever year if he played now the same way Bron is

​@xo 4u LOL im literally 23 you're honestly dumb if you think anyone would make MJ "look like a high schooler" WHO lmao

@xo 4u Well I wouldn’t say a handful, the only player I can think of is Kevin Durant, arguably the most unstoppable scorer to ever play the game. Other than that, the game has changed too much to where it doesn’t make sense to compare anymore.

@xo 4u bro don't talk basketball anymore

That’s for mj

@@aidanchernenkoff4426 lebron*

@@302tyty9 Powder*

@@aidanchernenkoff4426 no it’s for lebron

I appreciate the Micheal Jordan compliment

Larry Legend

@@jeffcook2570 in his career, Larry had Kevin McHale and Robert Parish (equivalent to having Tim Duncan and Karl Anthony Towns), Dennis Johnson (equivalent to having Drew Holiday/Lou Williams), Danny Ainge (equivalent to having Gordan Drajic), Nate "Tiny" Archibald (equivalent to having 5'9 Isaiah Thomas at his best), Reggie Lewis (equivalent to having PG-13), Bill Walton (equivalent to having Pau Gasol), and as head coach and GM he had K.C. Jones (equivalent to Doc Rivers), and Red Aurebach (equivalent to Pat Riley). Now ask yourself what would LeBron have done with that caliber of support?

@@mobetta2092 just thought I'd leave this here for you. Pay close attention to Kareem's part ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cAtySAPhFW8.html

@@jeffcook2570 players respect Magic and Larry not only because of their greatness, but also because they made the NBA a part of popular culture, so I know Larry Bird's value. However, MJ, LeBron (Kareem and Wilt to lesser degree) are the reputable names in the GOAT conversation. (Give Bird LeBron's Cavs teams and they're not even contenders...give Bron Bird's Celtics teams and they're still winning). Edit: I've NEVER heard any credible basketball mind ever consider Larry Bird the GOAT

@@jeffcook2570 here's something for you to view. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7DyTMEiORok.html

Everything you said in the lebron kobe debate can bd applied to lebron jordan. Kobe was a carbon copy

@@devinsmart1547 Kobe replicated Jordan's game but was only about 85 percent as good.

Then no body can call nobody goat bcoz nobody played mj and bron in their prime

Put Lebron on MJ bulls when the faced the Celtics in the first round he wouldn’t have made the playoffs. Just like he didn’t make the playoffs his first 2 years in the NBA.

You do know when lebron left Cavs first time He wasn’t the only player that left. Right only 3 players off that roster stayed.

I am also considering it, but not quite ready, not quite sure, but this breakdown is great and again shows how incredible LeBron is. Very different from the "best guy shoots" style of star player. However, there's no doubt in my mind that he is a better team guy, and that he can lead bad or mediocre teams the furthest, by believing so strongly in his team mates that they start believing in themselves and turn into value. And then again he can just do so so much, he has great versatility and obviously he's longevity!

It's a good breakdown but if you gotta do all of this analysis to consider someone a 🐐, he's probably not. Eye test is best test.

@@markied2873 When people believe popular analysts' views without doing their own research then yes, you gotta breakdown your own point for it to be even heard. A well thought out and explained breakdown is better than a casual saying 6-0 vs 4-6 with no context

@@maxwiththeimpressions9217 you made a very crucial point and I want to reiterate on that when you said he trust and gets he's team mates involved and ultimately they have confidence in themselves and make the game easy for him I totally agree with that and that's the reason why most players become more productive when they play with Lebron and when they don't play with him anymore they don't seem to meet up the same standards after he's not playing with them anymore

@@brannybrannylo1706 Yea exactly, exactly.. Do you think he is the greatest basketball player of all time though, skill wise? I think he is a greater team mate than Jordan, a better team guy, but still don't know about player.

And Steve Kerr for the 5th

Bruh the beat the lakers 4-1

Who took them to the finals. Daddy MJ so shut up.

It was a broken play, stupid casual

Jordan didn't pass it to Paxson

@Rodrick Wimberly I agree with you. Am not a crazy Jordan fan. Jordan is the goat....the only possible player close to Jordan is kobe Bryant ....

@@dru400 in the playstyle maybe but lebron's better than kobe in everything except kobe has 1 more ring

@@dru400 Kobe is great but he isn’t on the same level as Jordan or Lebron. His play style was like Jordan and he was certainly more skilled than MJ but he lacked the 48 inch vert and wasn’t nearly the shooter that MJ was.

Nobody can be WRONG in this GOAT debate, Jordan and LeBron are good but I think LeBron is greater.

@@grubgamer8383 how so?

Respectfully

Same. He just isn't the same type of player. He is a team first kinda of guy. Jordan is a win first kinda of guy. Lebron tries to elevate bad to average players. Jordan didn't waste his time with that and won 6. Kobe didn't waste his time with that and won 5. Lebron won 4. Maybe if he wins five you could reconsider the arguement but at this point it's guetting too late in his career.

@@razgaros Michael Jordan did make thoae around him better. However, Lebron does not have that winning mentality that Kobe or MJ had. All these flops and walking out of games early are things that keep lebron from reaching MJ. MJ wanted to win at all costs, Lebron gives up when things are bad.

@@MonkehEgo but Lebron's still the GOAT, too bad for Mike and Kibe, they tried tho

@@chrisvu7260 He could be the GOAT but, he is running out of time and he is ruinning his legacy. If he keeps leaving games early and being a man child, then he will be remembered for that only.

Me Jordan had the best mindset in the world

Most deft I never thought of that, the way he explained it

Nope mj was underrated by arenas

@@shawn17g Dawg it was fair. If he talked about MJ how he talked about Bron there would be no “he underrated Bron”

@@MrAlvarez23 6 finals and 6 rings on the same team and 6 times defensive player I thinks that's consider an goat 🐐. Never lost in the finals . So stop it

@@anthonyhogan5878 in 90s weak era and no zone defwnse 1 v 1 against 6 feet plumbers and thats your goat? Lol

You know nothing about basketball if you think Kobe is the goat.

@@LeChina what gave u the audacity to comment if we all liked the same thing we would all chase the same girl enjoy your day brother

@@LeChina Don't talk about other people OPINIONS.

@@LeChina Yeah, huge respect to Kobe but he's just not on Jordan's level.

@@drewfilson6795 Jordan’s era was weak..easy era to go iso one on one...compared to Kobe’s 2000-2010 era run 😂

I’m not even that big of a lebron fan and I cannot wait for them to make a documentary about him once he retires. Man deserves his own last dance documentary.

He’s the best ever and I think he’ll get another ring to change your mind

@@carlosa9467 It won’t matter what lebron does he’s hated and MJ is loved. Lebron can 3peat win 3 more mvps and finals mvps, and he’ll still be ranked below jordan by most people

Definitely top 5

He is number 1 if you disregard your childhood heroic moments, and the brand Jordan. From a basketball player stand point that plays all 5 positions, yes LeBron is more versatile and skilled overall than Jordan.

What JR Smith numbers before and after playing with Bron? What Kevin Love numbers before and after playing with Bron? What AD numbers before and after playing with Bron?

@@imkotable how many rings did they have before and after?

@@qwerty-rv4ty exactly

@@qwerty-rv4ty Lol stupid argument. How many rings Scottie had before and after playing with MJ? How many rings Gasol had before and after playing with Kobe? So based on your perspective, Kobe and MJ make their teammates better. Lol.

@@GD-ue4ty thank you😂😂 hes so dumb

so delusional

Lebron is the most complete player ever

Jordan was clearly better. Many people that did not even see Jordan play or just see some clips and assume he was not good at defense or assume he was not good at assists. Sadly they often get very disrespectfull too, truth is Jordan was such a big icon because he was simply the perfect basketball player. Best at defense in his time, best at shooting mid range, best at layups, best at dunks, best at assists and the man in the clutch. Always the mentality to go all out. Lebron simply cannot compete with that.

Wasn’t great going left. Weakness. Didn’t have amazing ball handle. Weakness. Jordan wasn’t a good 3pt shooter. Weakness. All that slurping you Jordan fans do really causes brain damage. 😂🫵🏼😂

Oh brother. LeBron coming to the rim full speed, no one in NBA history can stop that. Plus LeBron can shoot, you must never watched games of LeBron. LeBron shoots jump shots just about as much as he drives to the rim. Plus he can pass.

Um no

No

@@benigogo elaborate

Thats not saying much since nobody puts the Wizards on the all time great defensive teams list

@@MrMilez-ic1vlthen it doesn’t mean much when Jordan was dropping 35PPG on farmer teams

He still in shape, he probably could come back and actually do that

@@jwwashere888 Lmao, calm down

Nope Lebron is

@@Travel_Ventures_ its matter of opinion, don't be a dweeb.

Kareem has a better case than LeBron.

@@kaywill9677 Kareem has a better case than anybody and lbj has a better case than everyone else and bird,magic,and shaq has a better case than kobe...but can anyone tell me how can mj be the goat when he never beat bird and bird destroyed him everytime they played?Bird would be the goat fr

M.L.E. MOB LIFE ENTERTAINMENT again 5 in 7 attempts is better then 4 in 9 attempts... plus Kobe played in the west and has two Repeats and 1 3peat...

Lebron os trash he lost 6 finals

@@geraldwilson1705 yeah because we all know its better to lose in the earlier rounds

@@geraldwilson1705 like championships aren’t team accomplishments. Bunch of idiots on here

@@johnnycoop8694 Making it 10x is also a team accomplishment 🤦‍♂️

@@killmeinorder who said it wasn’t?

Facts!!...he did win the dunk contest at Bronny's game though🤣😂✌

He coaches highschool level right now I think. With his son

Naw not hs.. his kid only 10.. but he is coaching an Aau team

@@BRAWLIC215 No guns allowed on school property

He says om his youtube show he will coach. He is just not sure which level(highschool, college, nba) suits him the most at the moment.

There’s nothing about this video that shows that he could be an nba coach.

U talking about physical power with IQ of Lebron. We talking of Heart, Mindset and SKILLSET when talking of MJ and Kobe!

If you also look at the positions he plays...he can play PG, SF, PF, SG and this season for the first time he played C. He is a multi skilled player who can switch when it is necessary unlike Kobe or MJ who played shooting guard and defense for most of their careers. Meanwhile, Lebron also plays defense. You can't be the greatest civil engineer for doing bridges only while another civil engineer has done bridges, water structures, hotels etc...if that makes sense Gilbert made a good point about scoring. Lebron could score 60 and still lose a game. That's why lakers stopped making playoffs even though Kobe was scoring many points until his retirement. It takes a TEAM effort because it's 5 players. You need others to contribute. MJ was successful because Pippen, Rodman were consistent too

@@edobwoy BUT HE IS A AWFUL PERSON

We’ll find out few years after he retires. I don’t know why but something is telling me not only he won’t be mentioned as the greatest, but he wouldn’t be mentioned at all. Like Kobe Bryant before his death. And I’m pretty sure on the platform they will have another kid aiming at Jordan and replacing him.

@@edobwoy Lebron stop playing defense after 2014 and he was great defender for 2,3 years not more. Jordan was consistently great defender throughout his career with the Bulls.

Specifically that 2018 Cavs team is what he is referring to here. Or even the 2007 Cavs

@Larry Terry MJ, 3 titles before Rodman; Phil Jackson coached 0 championship teams before MJ; Lebron can wait for Pippen to develop into an All Star for 3 years; in the meantime, MJ gets to play with Bosh, Wade, Kyrie, Ray Allen, AD, Love.

@@josephmanzella7456 Phil Jackson won 2 championships as a player.

@@josephmanzella7456 LeBron waited 7 years with the cavs. Lmao

@@josephmanzella7456 and left because the gm wouldn't get him help.

Wrong lebron in a diff league

Which is why he pulled a gun on his teammate

@@82and0lmao

are you high smh

Shits crazy 😂

@@keithcooper6231 his game winners are so underrated. That Raptors one is so disrespectful 😂

Mj has 25 game winning shots. More than lebron. Has 9 buzzer beating shots. More than lebron and he played less. What are you babbling about.

@Raymond Sims how many more games did he play? How many did he miss? Can you actually play defense post 2009 anymore? How many game winning shots has he hit in the Finals where it mattered? Clueless emoji shrug.

Guys Lebron PLAYED more in the playoffs😂

Yeah, that was a play set up FOR Kerr

No Jordan does not make his teammates better. And yelling doesn't make anyone better.

Jordan fans keep forgetting the 80s existed... He was a high volume scorer but he couldn't even get out of the East... He had amazing stats but his team lost in the playoffs multiple times

@@dje.z.e9091 so?

@Ryan Bino I can write exactly the same argument abt lebron so...

Jordan won an mvp at 36 lol

Kobe didn't spend 1.5 million on a biochemist 💉

@@DemonKing-oi4jd Maybe he should have been smart enough to do it if he was that competitive. Or maybe, even if he did, he wouldn't have worked as well it did for Lebron. Lebron is a businessman, and smart businessmen care about the quality of their assets.

@@federalfreemoneylackofrese9937 I'm sure Kobe did, but LeBron is just indestructible. I'm not really comparing them since LeBron is gifted physically. Just hinting how LeBron is juiced since he is still amazing at 37, but I'm sure everyone else is also.

Lol mj was playing at an MVP level at 34/35

Mj could only guard small guards , Pippen and Rodman took on the tougher challenges , LeBron if he wants is a better defender, we saw it in Miami and his early Cleveland days

@@zod548 true...6'8 270 will grant u ability to guard bigger but when he's matched on PF and C.....he gets cooked bra....check the tapes....he great vs SF and good vs SG but just decent vs pg....MJ was great vs pg and sg....decent vs sf and short pf....no contest vs C lol and MJ played D 60 minutes...bron only chooses to play D 50/60% of the time to conserve energy...thats why he fell short of the award and mj won it....and even at 40 mj was still playing 60 minutes of D....bron stopped playing d at like 31/32....u only see small samples of his d now...but he was a great one when he did give effort 💯

@@areoinstylz yeah I agree

And there's more than that why Jordan is the GOAT!

@@bryrashad Winning mentality, never quitting and the list goes on and on

@@akshayrao4473 "Winning Mentality" is very subjective, we can't simply know what burns inside the heart of the person.

That is true. It's not just about stats. MJ actually had a greater impact in the overall performance of his team than Lebron ever did.

Timeout is lebron done tho ? Stfu Jordan won’t be remember by the time this man done

@@ronnycabrera8895 Jordan would be remembered. Lebron will never be the GOAT.

@@AhmeenTheDream ummm lebron bout to repeat and probably on the three headed monster the nets have . After that plenty of people will give him the GOAT title trust me .

@@ronnycabrera8895 lol u think Air Jordans and the brand gonna die when he does. The legacy gon triple. He got football player turning his shoes into cleats he is the GOAT

@ELJAY THANK YOU

You dont watch basketball

@@kitwalters5949Lmaoo how could you possible tell?

@@kitwalters5949 And we supposed to take your opinion on Basketball over Somebody who played & studied the game & played at a high level give me what your smoking on 😂

Not really. Every other great did the same thing LeBron did... Gilbert just made it seem like he was the only player EVER to do this.

@@kaywill9677 every other great came back from 3-1 against a team that went 73-9 and had the unanimous mvp?

LBJ fans don’t like facts though, they also act like MJ was the one who played with more all stars/HOFamers when it’s the exact opposite lol.

Scottie, Rodman ?

@@hope494 neither were on AD’s/Wade’s level. Rodman was just a defender/rebounder, no were near the overall player as AD/Wade. Pippen was a great defender and is obviously a better defender than Wade but he was not a legit go to star, wasn’t a scorer or clutch either. He also developed into a great player next to MJ. AD/Wade were both established all-NBA players before LBJ. Same with Bosh/Love/Kyrie.

@@eazyduzit-tr3nx anyways the difference between Miami and bulls is that bulls was a superteam Miami was a good team but not on the level of a supersteam like bulls warriors or spurs But I still do think if u look a the prespictive of mj and lebron, lebron is a better more complete player than mj. And the reason why I’m still putting mj no 1 all time is because of accomplishment.

MJ never played against anyone as good as the superteam warriors/2014 spurs/underrated dallas/07 spurs/73-9 warriors

Didn’t that Dallas team also take out Kobe going for a 3peat?

@@noahhanft7982 yes but were still way less talented than that heat team. And they still lost. because lebron underperformed

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Exactly, even Pippen and Kerr said Lebron was better and they played with Jordan!!!

@@davethompson8912 idk where u saw Kerr say this cuz I don't believe he said it. I'd bet money if we could!....& Gilbert is all 🧢 bruh. He's on a crusade to say the goats weren't in the 90's. He even says that Michael Jackson & Prince are "from the 90's" & he also says they aren't the goats. Y do ppl act like all the goats are from the 90's? Everything has evolved..this is what Gilbert is preaching. He full of it

Give an factual example of what you stated/posted 🤔

3-1 . 2014 Spurs were no joke. Playing some of the best team basketball of all time, Kawhi playing at an all time great perimeter defensive level. Plus on paper I'm sure you just look at the names on Heat roster on paper and think it was a super team , but honestly they weren't that year. Wade averaged 14ppg never made another allnba team. Bosh was the 2nd best player but he was all NBA once his entire career, an East perennial Allstar wouldn't have been as much in the West. Ray Allen was 40years old.

@@juju-vl7oj no way Jordan would have elevated Bosh, Chalmers, Dwade, Kawhi couldn't stand up against MJ's offensive arsenal where LeBron is more predictable in his offensive approach

Intelligent compared to a pile of 💩👍🏿

@@jessepetite2468 compapre to you keyboard warrior. You're nothing compared to Arenas

@@jessepetite2468 that’s your opinion but Arenas gave solid and objective points here with no bias. not some ESPN opinionated responses. my heart will say MJ but that’s my heart and there’s obvious bis, Arenas is using his brain here which is impressive considering he grew up with Jordan and it’s easy to be blinded by nostalgia but props to him for putting his biases aside and actually making an objective analysis. he actually got me thinkin twice here

@@ethantampus6021 different people have different perspective about the greatness. MJ has the most impact on basketball culture. Almost Everybody knows MJ. He is more popular than anyone in the world. Greatness is not just about being good at sport but what impact does the person bring to the sport and people around the world. Looking back all these great people in history. Every one of them impacted our society or culture in different way. That’s called greatness. The goat. LBJ might be the goat in next 20 years when next generation know only about lbj and he would be bringing more influence to the generation but until then , no lbj is nowhere near MJ.

Best part is Jordan accomplished far more in far less time if that makes any sense

I mean, first of all, LeBron isn't so much worse than Jordan in bodybuilding. Jordan's best parts are his vertical jump and his big hands. Bron don't have both vertical (at least not using it so much) and big hands like Jordan, but against these he have longevity and speed (I'm not saying he's faster or something like this, because idk, but for 6'8 big body man, he's very fast). Their bodies is the actual reasons why they're playing SG and SF. LeBron could've played PG if not his big body which is very useful on SF position. Jordan is the middle between PG and SF, that's why he's a perfect guy for a SG position. And also, because of that stuff that was happening before, players started to shoot better. Not only Jordan and Bron, literally most of the basketball players are shooting because they can't always go into the paint and score. And problem not in scoring itself, but because it's easy to predict your moves if you always going to the paint. Jordan's not only an athletic acrobat, he's also a mid-range god. And the second, I don't know how player's body is deciding who's the goat.

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