Why LeBron James is peaking as a passer in 2020 

yo he really called that shi das craaazy

He saw it coming.

That's when I hit subscribe.

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@@redskullz1249 on everything

He could finish top 30 in rebounds too which is insane. Truly a once-in-a-lifetime player.

Damn that’s insane tbh.

not even a lebron fan but damn gotta respect greatness

Top 15 in steals too lol

Antbeast23 I was just about to ask that ! Where’s he in blks ?

for sure

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@Mikael I actually tend to agree with his Jokic stance. He's an unreal/unique talent to be that good without NBA-average athleticism.

@Mikael Or maby you just hate Jokic and you're the one that gets delusional with your hate :) I've never heard him say anything biased about Jokic..

Yup. BBallbreakdown masquerades like its TB but Coach Nick turned into a GS hater in the end like everyone else

people choose to ignore it cause they didnt want lebron fans to have something over MJ

They dont know basketball, because if they did they would hold passing in high regard.

None of this is overlooked we all know how great he is. But the talent level around him makes it all the more easy and attainable.

lol what??? in hs they literally used to say passing was one of his best attributes if u go back and watch those games.

@@libraalibaba nothing is easy

I see a lot of old heads try to argue that Bird was a better passer. I just don't know how you can argue: the tape shows Lebron is on Magic's level and has been there for a LONG time while scoring at a high clip.

It’s called having AD etc while being surrounded by shooters everywhere along with playing in an era that has space up the wazoo lol!

@@Josh-sk5xd spacing helps, but if you aren't a great passer you won't be able to fully take advantage of it

@@Josh-sk5xd Magic Johnson had Kareem and Worthy/Stockton had Malone/Nash had Amar’e/CP3 had Blake/Rondo had KG/Pierce and Ray but u not ready to have that convo tho

@@Josh-sk5xdthat’s every great passer. Magic had Kareem as his big man. AC green, Michael Scott, James worthy. Stockton had Malone and shooters. It’s almost like majority of the all time great passers had a great big man and shooters 🤷🏿

Our childhood is over 😭

I was 3 months old when he was drafted. Now I’m 16.

Fans of other teams pray this is the season Lebron James grows old & tired, ON A REVENGE TOUR. 😀😀😀 A fair degree of LOAD MANAGEMENT will be exercised this season to save energy for the Playoffs. Anthony Davis & Rondo have their own Team Chemistry separate from Rondo.

He got a few more peaks though

@@abhimanyupatil1148 I was already 11 when he was drafted, 27 now

Just sent this to one of my buddies who is an avid LeBron hater. I will update you on his reaction.

They should be known as the real "Bronsexuals" since they analyze Lebron's game and talk about him so much even when he's not part of the conversation

@@MrE_ I hate the term "Bronsexual" it's so fking dumb and lazy you can easily tell who's just a hating 9 yo if they say that

@@nickiii2458 Please and Thank you.

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People say the stat and analytics geek don't know the game, but this guy's prediction's are spot-on simply by studying numbers.

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That's why I love his videos. He just needs new thumbnails

a year later and lebron finished the season as the assists leader... amazing

It’s called playing with AD and being surrounded by shooters in a space up the wazoo era.

@Josh casual take. His passing attributes are so very clearly better than they have ever been whether AD is there or not it doesn’t matter

@@jshonsmith3399 Casual take. You are simply wrong lol. In this era, everything is spread wide open with tons of spacing which makes passing a whole lot easier especially when you have a dominant big like AD on your team and you’re playing in a small ball era

@@Josh-sk5xd lebron's been a great passer his whole life tho so idk what your point is? And even when the nba wasn't as spaced out as it is today (his first cavs stint) he was still a great passer

He's in GOAT debate because he's the best player of his generation. He's not IMO because "the Decision", because 2007/11/14/18 Finals where he didnt take over as much as he should have.

@@sticky-fingers 2007 he was 22, 2011 I'll give it to ya, 2014 he played great but his team was getting pretty bad and Spurs were an all-time team, 2018 wtf man, he carried bums to the finals, lost game 1 with 51 and still averaged like 35

@@MatthiasG1899 2007 yeah he was young and I would not mention those Finals if he played at the same level that he played in previous rounds of eastern conference. But what did the Spurs ? Cut his path to basket and forced him to shoot ... and he was shooting awful. 2011 well, at least we're agree. 2014 he made his stats, but when the games were over, he wasnt playing great at all in fact in you (re)watch the games. 2018 he made a fantastic game 1, then disappeared in OT and never came back mentally.

@@sticky-fingers I mean that 2014 Spurs team triple teamed him and 2018 I can't bring myself to hold that against him, he carried bums to the finals, played ridiculous minutes in his 15th year and then ran kind of out of steam.

@@MatthiasG1899 exactly. How many nba players can carry that 2018 team to the finals? probably not even Leonard.

He could be the QB and the WR. Truly special talent

@@krunkformula True. He could throw AND catch the ball...

He actually used to play football

Welp, he just dropped 30 PPG, so he's clearly got some more gas in the tank.

@@sharifbrown3567 Yea still one of the best but not as athletic as he was when he was young. Still genetic freak though to be playing better then most young players in the NBA right now

@@ILoveCostcoPizza I'd love to see how 2009 or 2013 Lebron would abuse the spacing of Today. I could legitimately see a 35-10-10 season being put out if he had a team of 3 and D players with a good in and out Big Man

@@sharifbrown3567 if you have the maturity and experience of Lebron right now and the athleticism of Lebron 10 years ago, IMO, he would beat Micheal Jordan as the GOAT and probably have as many titles as Bill Russell but I guess you can say that about any all time top 10 players of the NBA.

@@ILoveCostcoPizza I feel like the hypothetical really only applies to LBJ, since his Peak Athleticism doesn't match up with his Peak IQ and Fundamentals. His Passing Peaked in 2020 while his Verticality and Speed Peaked in 2009. His shooting and post moves is always improving as well.

Roadkill Bingo Lebron would be a bench warmer without his athleticism lol.

Sydney Cole does that make his passing better? No

Sydney Cole ok?

2018 rockets were so good. The closest thing to the warriors that year. BUT, I feel like they were only made to beat the warriors. Meaning that I believe Cleveland had a chance against the Rockets that year.

If the Warriors hadn't existed, they would have rings at this point.

@@MrE_ I can see that point of view. A player with the strength and speed of LeBron would have punished them hard.

That Cleveland team had no defense though and the Rockets were loaded with great defenders between, Tucker, Paul, Capela, and Ariza

@@RonRyder Not surely I think (though of course 2018 would have been their best year in every way, because of their form, so peak Harden-CP3 teams Rockets, and of the others too and without the 4 all stars 2 mvps Warriors, but especially the most relevant one, their Finals opponents's one, so year 15 Lebron having to carry cadavers till the end and for 4 gamges/7 games), definitely not their past years when against Lebron with the good past years Cavs supporting cast before 2018, but even as a one man army in 2018 Lebron would have still had a chance and the Rockets would have it hard against him still, or at least definitely better than his odds against the most stacked superteam of all-time, but yeah, those Rockets were over everyone and would have had a very good shot at the title if vs that obliterator form Lebron but on the "Cleveland Lebrons" with cadavers, max 7 games I would say and not that many problems.

or jason williams "White Chocolate"

That tracking simulation really displays lebrons greatness. But yea nash would have a perfect circle fa sho that man was insane

Exactly I think him and Magic are the two best.

He cant passed MJ 🤪

@@SeanD19 THIS VIDEO IS ABOUT PASSING. STFU

Asean Dungo he can’t passed mj.... u might want to check ur grammar lol

@@ly7017 English is my 3rd language. I beg your forgiveness sir.

Hell he will be Best Scorer Of All Time soon 😎👍😃

@@koba2209 Thats not how that works. Kareem is not regarded as the best scorrr in NBA history, MJ is even though Kareem scored more total points. The only people that care about longevity stats are Bronsexuals. But even they dont really care otherwise they'd have Karl Malone in their top 10. Its just that that's really the only thing Lebron has over MJ so they have to bring it up because they have no answer for 6-0, 5 MVPs, 6 FMVPs, 10 scoring titles, 3 steals titles, 9 times first team all defense, DPOTY and first all time in damn near every advanced analytic. When Lebron hangs up his sneakers for the last time he'll be the all time leading scorer and amongst the top 10 in almost every category. But the statue in front of the United Center will still say "The best there ever was. The best there ever will be." And it will be as true as its ever been.

@@Youngster543210 Jordan played 15 seasons and only made the finals SIX TIMES. That means HE LOST 9 TIMES before the finals. So Jordan is 6/15 for championships, but didn't even give his team a chance in 9 of those seasons. Lebron made the finals 4 more times than MJ, and is still looking to get more rings. Also, Jordan never beat a team when he was the underdog, Lebron has won two championships against superior teams, and has only lost once when they were the favorite. Jordan lost when the other team was better, and won he had the superior talent on his team. Lebron has actually won when he has been the weaker team. That being said Lebron will always have to pay for his Mavericks performance, even though people point out he had two hall o' famers around him and they couldn't win two games when Lebron had a slump. So which is it...are Wade and Bosh actually that great if Lebron can't have a bad couple games?

@@orclover2353 Everything you mentioned is a team accomplishment/failure. I dont determine a players individual greatness on team successes. Bronsexuals seem to do that though. But to address your points. I dont knowmif you're aware of this but in the NBA playoffs there is a 16 team, two conference bracket system. Making the finals doesnt mean you have the second best team in the league, it means you have at worst the 9th best team in the league. Every playoff team in the other conference could be better than yours and you could still make the finals. Hell, even the teams that missed the playoffs could be. Lebron's Cavs made the finals in 07 playing against two teams with a less than .500 record. They then got swept in the finals. The best psrt is Bronsexuals admit that those Cavs had no business even being on the same court as the Spurs lol. The Cavs were the only team the Spurs swept in 07. There were 4 teams in the west that would have dismantled that Cavs squad, the Cavs just never had to play them. In fact, in both MJ and Lebron finished their 4th season with a 50-32 team record. MJ averaged 35/6/7 with 3.2 steals and 1.6 blocks on 54 percent shootimg and won MVP and DPOTY, it was literally one of the modt dominanat seasons in NBA history. Lebron averaged just 27/7/6 on 47 percent in 07. The difference is MJ's Bulls played the Pistons in the second round of their own conference, that Pistons team would go on to win the championship the following two seasons. Lebron's Cavs played no relevant contenders in 07 in their own conference. The story was the same in 2014, 2017 and 2018. Hell, the Rockets pushed the Warriors to 7 games in 2018, Lebron's Cavs got blown completely off the court in 4. There was one team in the league good enough to beat MJ's Bulls in 88, 89 and 90, that tram happened to be in the same conference. There were multiple teams good enough to beat Lebron's Cavs and Heat in 2007, 2014, 2017 and 2018, none of them were in the eastern conference. Jordan never won when he was an underdog because teams he was on werent underdogs...because he was on the fucking team lol. Somehow you think thats an indictment against MJ lol. Lebron's Heat were barely underdogs in 2012, it was debatable whether they even should have been. The Cavs won in 2016 by the skin of their teeth after Draymond's suspension and Steph Curry completely choking the series away. Lebron choked away the 2011 finals. Lebron didnt play well in the playoffs 2014 finals. And once again, saying that MJ's teams were never underdogs doesnt actually make a case against him, in fact it makes a case for him. The Bulls had a +3.6 (average. Below average for a playoff team) net rating and the 14th best offense in the league in 94 without MJ, they had a ridiculous +13.4 net rating (still a record) and the no.1 offense in the league with MJ in 96. And ALL of that increase in net rating came on the offensive end. MJ was the Bulls offense, he won 6 championships with 5 of the 10 lowest scoring championship supporting casts in NBA history. Also, you included 2 seasons of MJ's at age 39 and 40 to help build your case, Lebron just turned 36. If you wanted to make an apples to apples comparison you'd want to compare them through age 35. Anyway, arguing that Lebron is better than MJ because his teams made the finals more is even sillier than arguing that MJ is better because his teams won more rings. MJ led teams were undisputedly the best team in the world 6 times. Lebron James led teams were undispudedly the best team in the world 4 times. Both MJ and lebron led somewhere between the 2nd and 16th best teams in the league the rest of the times, nobody really knows because again, 2 conference, 16 team, 2 bracket system. So yeah, you're going to always frame the argument in such a way to make Lebron look good and MJ fans will always do the same for him. But neither of you have any good reason to believe one is truly better than the other, you just.. believe it, arbitrarily. Its a sort of blind faith.

@@Youngster543210 awards are a joke...jordan could have been MVP every season or none of the seasons because the vote is arbitrary, we all know Lebron is the best player in the league by June at least 14 times...yet he doesn't have 14 MVPs...when he should. All defense is a joke, DPY is a joke... Lebron has consistently been rated at the top as a wing defender year after year when it comes to analytics but poor offensive players are always the choice for defensive awards as if they are somehow better just because they save their energy for defense. Lebron shuts down anybody he guards in big situations, and then takes on the playmaking responsibilities as well. The main difference between him and MJ, MJ needed a perfect situation in Chicago to be created for him to flourish because he wasn't a great passer, and not a super efficient scorer with a below average 3 game...his mid-range game we all know wasn't the most efficient use of resources. Lebron took FIVE different coaches to the final, won with three different coaches on three different teams, with three dramatically different rosters. His supposed Hall of fame stars have flamed out spectacularly without him and the teams he leaves are awful without him. Jordan left a championship team and they still made the playoffs...Lebron left cleveland twice and miami once and they became lottery picks. Best Ever

TheDAWinz he’s still out of his athletic prime tho

His head gets slightly under the rim but still amazing for his age.

@@jackklnet2458 that's amazing for anyone to jump so high that he's just about eye level with the rim.

Lebron being out of his prime is still one of the most athletic players in the league and that coupled with his experience is what makes him so dangerous in his progressed age

@@AllucB Exactly. Still top 10 in the league easy.

Well, he is amazing but saying he is undoubtedly better than Jokic is crazy

@@jdsilvestri I'd still pick bron over jokic in terms of passing...bron is such a threat offensively which makes his passing all the more deadly

Undoubtedly is abit of a stretch tho. A case can be made for jokic to be better than lebron but I wont argue if you say lebron is slightly better than jokic but not by a big margin

Jordan Silvestri he means like physically stronger passes I think, not necessarily better

Lòs Padrè he’s undoubtedly better way more versatile passe

Ironically LeBron is an underrated passer, since his assist numbers aren't as high as most point guards. But in terms of passing skill, I'd put him over anyone.

Jay Money he’s a clown he’s the best passer in the league currently maybe behind chris Paul

Theres so many people that say lebron is a terrible passer and it isnt even funny anymore

@@burner1303 eh idk LeBron falls on both ends on the spectrum, some think hes an upassing ball hog and others think he's the second coming of magic, I for one most definitely disagree with the common notion he's a better passer than scorer

he is a good passer, but not a great playmaker, and at the crunch even his passing becomes obsolete, especially against disciplined defenses like GS and Spurs, they simple know the kind of passes he likes and they just close the lanes, thats why whole team movement is way superior, like the Kobe/MJ playmaking, in the triangle system, or the Parker/Tim/Manu system, or the Curry playmaking, these guys move off ball and set screens, Lebron doesn't, hence, outside of the predictable Lebron system he is a bad playmaker.

nblade66 great question! I'd love to know more about this as well 🙂

If he averaged one, they’d only say he’s a ballhog

you can tell he doesn't stat pad (at least to the degree of a guy like Russell) because he has a ton of near-miss trip dubs where he fell one rebound or assist short, and only realized after the game was over. Stat padders tend to keep an eye on their numbers in-game

@@muhammadputera6593 yeah it's so easy, for lebron to grab the ball and find the open man, or score. He doesn't need to box out teammates, or purposely hunt for assists

His missed them 79 times due to one rebound or assist🤫

@@showtimelakers3737 Yeah, crazy, and really the proof for that bs take and accusation (either for triple doubles or even with for his insane all-time stats and in all those categories-at the top of those too as a SF).

You should watch his 2018 playoffs highlights

95%

there is benchwarmers etc. 500+ player in nba. u can name 25 player that is more athletic then bron at best.

And he's well into his 30's too

Till this day lol . And it’s his 18th season . His 19th starts in like 6-7 months .

No 65 percent at best.

kareem said this himself, good job.

Cp3, trae young are better, others are just about equal to him aswell.

@@heliosb3714 trae young? Nah. If anything you could say Luka maybe but still a little early for that

@@heliosb3714 No

He did on backpicks.com

Mike G The best of the league today yea he probably is, but of all time? Being the scoring threat he is in the era of infinite spacing and thus far more wide open shots, I'd vouch for players like Magic, Stockton, Kidd and Bird who might be the most underrated passer ever(might add MJ and Kobe to this too but Lebron over them is fine ofcourse). They actually had to find the tiniest gaps for passes and especially Bird is unequaled in this. The one thing Lebron probably has above anybody is his bullet pass. Its so crazy on point(although he misses them often too, thats fine. Just like Westbrook, high volume great passer tend to turnover some of these passes too). I think that Lebron's ability to lob is actually one of the most underrated parts of his passing. As for playmaker as in pure playmaking skills, hes IMO also not the best of his generation. The ones that are were clearly CP3 and Rondo(Rondo didnt even have a shot so teams could clog his passing lanes which makes it even more amazing same with Simmons who is for the same reason severely underrated). Not here to downgrade Lebrons passing because IMO its the most exciting thing about him as a player, but lets keep it neutral.

Seriously 😂😂 he don’t like giving nothing to lebron but you gotta watch him sometimes he boost lebron abilities up so he can rip him apart for not being able to do something nearly impossible in certain situations 🤦🏾‍♂️

@@mr.anderson1562 i never thought about it like that but u right

Parsa 7672 skip is an asshole he puts lebron in a situation to lose every time he do something great it’s “aw cmon he’s supposed to do that he’s better then everybody” then he makes a mistake “he’s the best player in the world right? How did he miss that shot?” i can’t lie I wouldn’t want another guy on the show with Shannon tho skip is hilarious 🤣🤣

They're honestly equal as passers, LeBron just scores more

Pablo I think you've read his breakdowns on both on backpicks.com, I've seen your name all over the comments

I know that Ben believes Magic to be the clear best passer ever And the best playmaker ever by a slight margin, he's mentioned before that LeBrons definitely below magic (in terms of passing)

@@qwikscopez6619 Yes, I've read most, if not all, of his breakdowns. I just didn't remember how he compared the two players. Thanx

Coz he CHOKES when he's needed the most.. especially when his team is down by points..he can't even make a FREE THROW.. you know why it's called free throw? Coz it's free.. nobody is guarding you😂😂😂😂😂

@@JetEngine85 How is any of what you just said relevant to what that person wrote?

Jerome Yudiet what’s the most free throws you’ve ever made out of 10?

Jerome Yudiet Shut up nerd

Hahahaha super team on the First three peat?? U the type of dude that can't understand great chemistry and thinks It was ALL talent. LeBron never won a title with equal or slight less talent.

Having stimulus package, a Second Guy who was playing like MVP on his own team and Multiple injuries on the other side....hajahhahha against ALL odds my ass.

@@Sg6CrossOver Lakers got the first threepeat of merged ABA/NBA you twit. And they went one better with 4 in a row in 82-85... You weren't even old enough to appreciate Jordan... Was lucky enough to see prime Magic, Jordan and the players who followed. Saw old Doc J but not in his prime. Bet you were born in the 90s as NBA been around well before Jordan played in the NBA!

@@Sg6CrossOver lmao. on second dude playing like an MVP. Kyrie was good but not that consistent in the finals. Scottie and Kukoc did a hell of a lot of lifting for MJ too scrub. Not to mention some of the role players hitting clutch shots in those titles... The Bulls roster was ridiculous compared to everyone else. They were deep. Compare that to the other teams they met... Utah was likely the best MJ faced but they were not as deep nor as young as Stockton was old. GSW is the best team I've seen. Both iterations with and without KD were abhorrently strong. Spurs and OKC in the early 2010s were also pretty ridiculous talent wise.

@@omnitheus5442 Kyrie created way more on half court than LeBron on those playoffs and next years, LeBron got his scoring on open 3s and fast breaks. Kyrie was insane for 5 games on those series and his numbers shows he was playing at MVP level on his own right.

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You missed the point of the video.

he did a breakdown on backpicks.com

@@qwikscopez6619 Thanks for that!

@@joshuathompson4461 no problem

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Eh, what happened?

Care to enlighten?

Yunan β Ronnie was asked about all the backlash on him and nba2k and he said he was happy cause his game was that “important” to people they keep complaining😂😂😂👌

locknight read the comment I said to other guy

Yeah true just hoped that he could become a reasonable shooter as well as a fan of his iq on both ends