@@jimhaug5292 and the only reason messi lost in UCL and World Cup 2018 was defence. His team scored 3 goals against the champions and the defence couldn't keep that huge lead
@@scottgomez1 winning the ucl should not determine winning the balon d'or. It's a single players performance and not a collective. Even tho Van Dijk had a good shout of winning
@@Dalooteater sorry. Since it's been a messi and ronaldo marathon. I forgot modric. That's how it is. Messi did great last season too. Now I even forgot who won last time lel.
Tbf messi fanboys and Ronaldo fanboys can be just as bad, just start a conversation about who's better and see how toxic it gets. I'm a liverpool supporter and as much as I would have liked vvd to win, I already knew messi would win it, messi carries the whole team.
Jamie Mcintosh he didn’t have a problem with it tho , either way he was ok with Messi winning it but in his eyes van dijk deserved it . I had no problem with Van Dijk winning it and im a Messi fan .
Jayhhs dude whether Stevie not worth a nickel liked it or not it won’t have matter. Messi won it officially fair and square. All this biased old idiot was worried about is the hammering he’s going to get coz he realised how stupid he looked. In other words bring on the custard pie for Stevie followed by humble pie, followed by shepherds pie & good night Nicol
@Chris bro, don't talk about 6-7 years ago if ur talking about the Ballon d'Or, it is a yearly award, ur clearly a messi fan kid, besides why vvd does not deserve it, he won 3 trophies compared to messi in 2019, and nobody has dribbled past him for 90+ hours, and ur saying he does not deserve it lol. get out.
@@OHA2468 Shut up dude, Messi clearly deserved it, more assist than any other player, more goals than any player, more chances created, more dribbles, more key passes in that year, don't talk thropies now dumass, is an INDIVIDUAL thropy NOT a team thropy 🤦♂️
@@binemisko Them bottling back to back 3 goal leads isn't on the coach, mate. Hate to break it to you but Messi isn't a quarter of the leader Puyol was...
Marlon Blade maybe the Barca keeper is better ...if the score was 5-1 for atletico...the Messi goal was not that “ genius” ...goals like that one you can see every single weekend...and much beautiful
Bogdy Bogdy so you saying a decisive, important,single the one & only goal in a derby match against arguably the best shot stopper in the world in the most cagey meaningful defensive team/coach YET you don’t rate it much or is good enough for yuh? go watch cricket & leave football please.
When will people understand that failing to win the champions league is a team failure and that the ballon d or IS AN INDIVIDUAL AWARD. If the slide at 7:13 had gone up on the board behind Drogba at the presentation, every single person in that room would have gone silent and stared at it. Individually, every professional player will agree, Messi is and has been for the past 12 13 years from another galaxy.
Because old people are in denial and they think that there can't possibly be a better player than the ones they used to watch when they were young. You know, it's the "back in my days" bullshit argument.
Someone tell Steve that If Messi was in Liverpool last season, they would not only win the Champions League, but also the premier league... This is how consistent Messi is.
Steve never change until now he is always against Messi’s winning and achievements. This old hog really wants the audience to look and think of him as a dumb sports analyst because of his nonsense comments.
They hate Barcelona for taking on the political views of Catalonia, Spain is a big seat in Uefa so UEFA strings are moved by Spain and other federations
@@Godplayzdice And don't forget Jurgen Klopp who's the master tactician behind all of their success, unlike Barcelona with Valverde smh. It is what it is.
Definitely an idiot. Karius was already goalkeeper before van dijk came in. And when van dijk came in the first year he improved the defence drastically even before alisson came the season after.
Van Dijk - incredible player, in an incredible team, managed by incredible coach. Messi - incredible player, in a good team, managed by mediocre coach.
A player like Messi is receiving an injustice from his team and coach, he represents their badge but at time like last year when Barca was against Liverpool in the 2nd game he was the only one playing with soul in his whole team.
STEVIE OUT OF EXCUSES. HE DOESN"T KNOW WHAT TO SAY, HE WAS HIT WITH A GOOD QUESTION "WOULD BARCELONA WIN THE CL WITH VVD? AND WOULD LIVERPOOL WIN THE LEAGUE WITH MESSI? stevie was out of words to answer that
Yes Barcelona might have won the UCL with Virgil and Liverpool might have won the league with Messi. But later is less probable coz Liverpool defense was shambolic before VVD but were great attacking wise
@All things are possible To those who believe it works both ways mate if Barcelona don't concede they only need to score 1 and you're telling me that this barca team is so bad that they can't score 1 goal a game in la liga. And also true if messi was at liverpool they would also have a great chance of winning the league but they would need to score 3-4 goals a game cause they couldnt defend a led.
@All things are possible To those who believe I get what you're saying but it's all hypothetical. We had a team in 14/15 that were going out and putting teams to the sword. 4-5 goals a game was the norm but we couldn't defend to save our lives until VVD came into the fold. We were 4th gave up 42 goals. VVD first full season 22 goals given up and only one loss in the league.
@@RAINPoliane Why would he be a traitor if he chose his youth home over his childhood home? I mean I don't reproach him for choosing Argentina, but there would have been nothing wrong with wanting to play with his La Masia friends
Messi almost carried this Barça team under Valverde to a treble, on his own. The fact that he won his 6th Golden shoe and now 6th Ballon D’or under Valverde is just outrageous. No other player in world football shows these kind of a abilities on a more consistent level. That’s what sets him apart.
John Buckley tripping Messi carried Barca throughout the season without Messi what was Barca record without van dijk they still have mane Salah Messi was amazing throughout the season
John Buckley Yeah VVD has carried Liverpool but so has Mane. Without Messi Barca are a shadow of themselves but without VVD Liverpool still have a solid defence (not this season) and a great attack to score. Messi is irreplaceable
@@NBaeK01 The only reason Barca would not top La liga is because they run everything thru Messi. They have enough talent to win but there would be a phase of adjustment just like what happened at Real.
Barcelona would not have come out the group stages of the champions league withotut Lionel Messi and Atlético would have had won la liga if Messi was not at Barcelona. He 100% deserved it
@@keyuantejohnson6266 liverpool scored more goals than barcelona,lost only 1 game at p league and kept more clean sheet finishing with 97 points. how many points did barca finish with. all you messi fanboys that dont see stats
@@keyuantejohnson6266 coz they drew ONE too many game, and with a team like city challenging for the title it just was unlucky season. I'm not sure if you think 97 points don't win any league almost every year.
Keep blabbing on all you want you cant change nothing now haha messi 6th balon D‘or the most ever he is the best get over it we told you long ago he is the best we were right you were wrong cause your an idiot. See ya lol
Erick Rojas we’ve seen Barcelona how dramatically struggled when Leo is not on the field, he’s basically the oxygen of that team & once he leaves FC Barcelona are going badly down, sadly but 100% not going to be the same team that can compete at all. They’ll need to get 3-4 top class players to have any chance to.
Right!! saying VVD has the most impact in liverpool is disrespecting the rest o that super defense!! not recognizing 2 full backs defending and leading the whole team assists is absolutely disregardful
he said he doesn't mind, and messi is the best player in the world. He is just making an argument for VVD. Seems fair to me, I think it's in people's head.
It's okay to love Messi but stop bro. VVD is the most important Liverpool player. Allison missed a lot of games this season and Liverpool were still beating everyone. Take out VVD and Gomez and Lovren will struggle.
@Vic Williams best in all competitions? How did he do in the copa america? Allision won it and went home a hero for Brazil for his heroics in the semi against Argentina and in the final.
In his acceptance speech, Messi gave thanks to “the journalists [who choose the award winner] and my team mates with whom I win and lose”. He added: “I remember my first Golden Ball in Paris, when I arrived with my brothers, now I pick up the sixth, this was absolutely unthinkable. “I have never stopped dreaming and enjoying football like when I was a child. I hope I have more years to enjoy, although I am aware of how old I am. Everything happens very quickly and I know that the time to retire is approaching but i probably have few years”
@@louishoek9269 no Pele didn't won any ballou dors its just prediction that if Pele played at europe instead of weak league like Brazil he would've won 7 baloon dors because back then defenders were shite and that is why even maradona is above pele
messi impacts la liga only. no cl, copa america, be serious. i love the guy but 6 BD is a lie. he is not not influential in all tournaments. he gets qf in CA , sf in CL and you give him BD EVERY YEAR? when ple say he carried barca, its only in la liga. he needs to win ca or cl to show over all greatness, but he is great. do not get me wrong
I agree, they did it to please him as much as possible knowing how much he would be angry that Messi passed him with this one. On the bright side, next year Messi will still be in the top 3 even if he doesn't win it. I can't even see Ronaldo being nominated at all given how poor he has been playing.
If you look at Messi’s 2012 team that he was playing with compared to the team Messi is playing with in 2019 and him still managing to score 40+ goals is insane! Literally, the things that Messi does are astonishing.
Still bottles the big games but I digress. You fanboys can have your cake and eat it. Doesn't change the fact this award was meaningless the moment they decided it would be journalists that vote instead of team captains/coaches.
Miguel Vale Fan girl* you obviously can’t read a name. Also, how is what I said in any way undervaluing your favorite? You’re literally attacking me simply because I said Messi carried Barcelona? Don’t know how that could get you mad upset that you had to reply to my comment like a sore loser.
@Cocho Calentano I reckon all three can touch 40+. Barcelona nearly did it with Messi, Suarez and Neymar. I think Neymar finished with 39 goals. Suarez under Messi had 59 goal year. Messi setting up Mo and Mane would easily all hit 30+
E m e r s o n but still bottled it twice. Atletico and juventus. My point is that even right now they have better forwards than mane and salah. Salah. Now imagine before with msn
tajwuani grant sadly most of all the times ,it happens when a person retires or passed away and I called that BS!!By the way,In future it will be name about Messi or cristiano awards.
"Personally I think we should get rid of this and say who's the best player in the world, then give it to them. And he would get it". That is what the Ballon d'Or is for, omfg he just said we should scrap it then give someone a trophy for being the best player in the world. Hahahahaha
Messi truely deserve this year m very happy for him as a fan bt bt lawandoski had a greater chance for nxt year as compare to current performance bt i believe messi can do it either as he is still a geniuse
@@moazali-calisthenics2188 true because klopp formation makes them look too good but individualy so good,,,, i mean klopp made a player like henderson look good
Allison and players missing 3 clear cut chances created from messi is more reason than vvd performance in that anfield game with Allison vvd was bad in both games
@@thewonderofyou1 your an idiot if u think messi is overrated. If u dont care if vvd won and dont think messi should have won ...then who should have won? Overrated penaldo?
9:50 I’m not sure Messi will retire that soon. He loves the game more than any player i know and has never shown any sign of being tired of it all. He just wants to play. As long he’s got 30-40 goals in him per season, I doubt he needs to retire. He’d still be leagues ahead of most players. He’s scoring and enabling over 70 goals at 32. I might be wrong about this. But i just got this feeling. As long as he’s physically able, his mind is not getting in the way of his game. He’s come so close to grabbing some of the biggest tournaments and they keep slipping out his grasp. So many times. The World Cup and the champions league of late. A lesser player would’ve called it quits. He still keeps coming back. I hope I’m right
@John Cornell I dont know why people talk about that liverpool lost. 4-0 4-0... He scored hat trick in the first leg and barca team was absolutely ridiculously bad. Messi had best rating of barca that game. If 10 other players and the tactics are underpeforming and you expect one player to save them its just stupid. And I havent heard anything about ronaldo unable to save juve from ajax. As I told I dont get this one game thing. And always when I see the little cr7 fanboys in the comment, i know i should just ignore them, i feel bad for them. They are blind for the truth and it makes me sad. Even tho there would be all the proof, they will still thinking, ronaldo is better. What a shame.
I believe someone will surpass his stats in the future(may be in the next century) . But I don't think anyone will be able to reach his level at playing the game. Pleasure to watch.
@@tsheringdorjee Humans dont evolve in a matter of decades or a single century. I don't think anyone will reach his level without being genetically modified at birth or be a cyborg. Even Messi wouldn't have reached this level if medicine was lagging 30 years behind.
@@pepehimovic3135 actually he was always that good but he wouldn't be able to become pro football player if medicine was lagging 30ys behind. the treatment he was taking for his growth problem has nothing to do with his lvl of playing the game
I don't think Messi's body has the durability though because he's been injured more than some players which is understandable because he gets fouled a lot and that gets worse over time
@B Liang lool Messi is stronger than Ronaldo trust me physically but just cos Ronaldo has an athletic body he's considered stronger ask players who's harder to knock over and they will say messi
@@gr7scott969 U can't really say that tbh, He was phenomenal but people make excuses that he would had been way better if he wasn't injured, Who knows what might have happened even if he wasn't injured, Brazilians really fast lose their forms tbh and are pretty injury prone
Mane won the Premier League golden boot (shared with Salah and Aubameyang), won the Champions League, and led Senegal to the finals of the AFCON. Not to mention that Mane was completely unplayable at the right time when Liverpool was struggling to score goals near the knock out stages of the Champions League and down the stretch of the title race. Mane carried Liverpool for a very important stretch. Criminally underrated.
Wungramthing Luithui you Messi fanboys are the most hypocritical fanboys I’ve seen. Ronaldo got the MOST number of goals 2017-18 season club and country and won MORE trophies than everybody that season and carried Madrid in UCL with the most goals that season. When Messi was voted 5th, you fools were enraged when it was correct. But now you’re making fun of other fans for realizing the truth. Award is rigged and you know it
No, Van Dijk was million times better. Messi plays in the Spanish league where there is only 2 teams. Non-competitive league. Saw how Barca got destroyed by Liverpool ? :)
@@michaelalexander9386 You mean you are talking about Barca destroying the "then" English top team like almost 8 years ago for a 2019 prize award? urmm ok cool.
*Behind Van Dijk, this years best GK Allisson was there* Both had an enormous contribution on winning CL. Messi had no one backing him up. He dragged Barca from a shameful season. He dragged them to a LaLiga title AND to a freaking semi-final of champions league. For me, that's why Leo deserved it the most.
@John Cornell compare the number of tackles and saves are made between Dijk and Allison. Now compare the goal difference between Suarez and Messi last season.
@John Cornell and do you see Suarez as *best* striker last season? Alisson won the best GK last season. I hope you get my point. That's my pov. If you don't agree with it, that's fine. Everyone has their own opinions. So peace.
2019 season clearly belongs to Messi so he won ballon d or, wat is d fuss all about..if giving Luka modric ballon d or was right then why not Messi b awarded, don't know why Messi's achievement always questioned over others
Modric won off performances in the champions league that Real won, and croatia's performances at the world cup. Messi knows nothing about performances at a world cup hahahaha
@@jehadislam1874 la liga is an absolute joke. He ain't carrying Argentina. He's a non factor these days. Why they not win anything? He's the guy responsible for Icardi not being in the team. Watch some premier league, you know, the hardest league in the world, to understand what Virgil contributed.
definitely, after all he won a non-competitive league, scored less than Lewa, had the same per game stats as Mbappe, failed with Argentina, failed in the UCL, failed in the cup finals, Barca would have won the league without him. and Van Dijk? - finished a season without being dribbled by, was a major factor in his team having the 2nd highest amount of points in Europe(10 over barca), won the UCL after winning Barca, won the Super Cup definitely, Messi deserves it he scored way more goals than Van Dijk and the reason he really got is that he has way way more youtube highlights videos and Instagram followers. if it was based on football and common sense Messi would have been around 5th but its a prom queen contest and Messi is the most popular girl in school
@@bsman321 aaah sorry boss but Leroy Sane dribbled past him 'van Dijk" get your facts right. Messi is a play maker we are all privileged to live in an era with a footballer like him,that liverpool boy his good but Messi his a goat.
@@bsman321 non competitive league...lol...valencia gives chelsea a run for their money...lol...sevilla kills man u..lol..barca beat liv 3-0 in first leg....and lewa scored more than messi...fucking messi won golden shoe...u know the meaning of golden shoe?
Man, even the haters will miss him when he's gone. Appreciate this man, you won't see another like him perhaps in your lifetime. Just hope he wins the 2022 world cup and Argentina's defense becomes good before the world cup !
The irritating thing about the Balon d'Or and just about every other individual award in football isn't who wins but rather the wildly different criteria that seem to be used every year. Some years it's about stats, others it's about storylines...
Lewandowski ranked 8th was disgraceful in my opinion. As long he keeps scoring goals and possibly even win the champions league he'll surely be the favorite next year
Lewandowski has just done great recently. He will be nominate Ballon d'Or for next year. However, he needs to keep up his current performance. It's not just a job well done for a few months. It has to be for a whole season.
Leo was amazing almost every game, he is so consistent he shines so much brighter than others he has faced or plays with. He won barca the league then to semis of the ucl final, of cdr, balling that hard needs recognition for real! He is the greatest!!
Alison was amazing almost every game. Most clean sheets in the prem. Winner champs league. Winner of the copa america. Knocking Messi out in both cups. It was more of a team thing in champs league but in the copa america it was all allision he faced 20+ shots from Argentina and Brazil had 4 they won 2-0. Got keeper of the tourney in the league champs league and copa america. Went home a hero in Brazil for is heroics in the semis and the final. On a personal level this year it's way above messi.
Gary u clearly haven’t seen the difference van dijk has made since he joined us either. We had the worst defence in the league before he joined, and now look at us. It is down to the whole defence, but he’s made it much better
@@Adz90 Sometimes I don't understand why people focus on VVD.. Allison was a bigger reason Liverpool has been better.. Liverpool would have won the UCL previous year if you just replace Karius with Allison..
Interesting fact is that without those statics just alone messi's playing styles put him at very top of as world-class player that's level of good he is.
2009 - Treble 2010 - La liga, WCC, UEFA & Spain super cups 2011 - La liga, CL & Spain Super cup 2012 - Copa del rey, WCC, UEFA & Spain super cups 2015 - Treble 2019 - La liga and Spain super cup This' team stats and you guys already know Messi's incredible individual stats!
@@gr7scott969 ur so called goat knows exactly who is goin to win the ballon dor so he dnt present in the ballon dor ceremony as he already had the experience of hw shameful goin home empty handed and staying next to superior player lik leo 😂😂😂😂😂
@@quinn2002 I can see that. Especially Salah. Thought 4 is a good fit. Mbappe though has to be at least top 6. This kid scored 40+ goals this season. Only other player was Lionel.
@@doesnotexist305 honestly I dont think so cos Dembele's chance was much better as it was only the goalie, but there were a few people on the line for Salah's chance
And only if Liverpool scored all there chances, Liverpool had a off night, Messi got a lucky rebound goal off the crossbar & punched Fabiano in the face got a free kick for it and cheated & moved the ball closer & scored a really good freekick not a Messi hater I love him, I just speak the truth.
@@billybob-fw3vr . Honestly I dont think you could actually put that as a "what if" situation as there really weren't any clear cut chances that really wouldn't have changed if they had the same opportunities again, but Dembele's opportunity was something that I dont even think ter Stegen would've messed up. And for Messi's lucky goal, your right, it was lucky, but it was also unlucky that they hit the crossbar to begin with. And also for the foul, that is a foul on Fabinho cos he forcefully kept Messi from making his run, plus ball was very close to the spot of the foul, if not, the ref would've said something.
mane and Ronaldo goals were similar. Ronaldo 28 goals and 10 assist in 43 games and mane 26 goals and 5 assist in 50 games. And they both won the same amount of trophies mane champions league and super cup Ronaldo Seria A and nations cup. So looking at this since balon d'or is an individual award Ronaldo deserved to be higher than mane.
@@adelekeadedamola6234 Allison should be 3rd tbh, UCL he made mega saves against Napoli and Barca, PL made 4-5 game winning saves and Golden glove and important saves for Brazil along with a golden glove.
I am a Messi fan and I don't get why people are saying mane should be higher than Ronaldo. I just checked their stats and mane and Ronaldo goals were similar. Ronaldo 28 goals and 10 assist in 43 games and mane 26 goals and 5 assist in 50 games. And they both won the same amount of trophies mane champions league and super cup Ronaldo Seria A and nations cup. So looking at this since balon d'or is an individual award Ronaldo deserved to be higher than mane.