Why LV-223 Instead of LV-426 for Prometheus??

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Why did Prometheus take us to LV-223 instead of LV-426 for an Alien Prequel? John Spaihts has answers on the script apart podcast that we'll analyze here to see what happened to take us away from Acheron, LV-426.....
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@giovannig2278 2 года назад

This is the type of content we asked for! Keep More covenant content coming!

@alonzuro1364 2 года назад

The problem is that Prometheus HAD the potential to tie the story to the original Alien but didn’t use it. In the script/drafts, the scene where the two engineers are talking speak of the crashed derelict on the “nearby moon.” Mind you this event took place 2000 years before the arrival of the Prometheus, so it makes sense that the space jockey would be fossilized. But ultimately the movie along with Covenant left a lot of mystery gaps for us to wonder and theorize. My hope is that Ridley can finally show us a story that ties things together and show us a proper story. It’s a bummer we never got to see more story about the accident on LV 233 or how the derelict crashed on LV 426.

@silvertemplar8061 2 года назад

Definitely an interesting question to ask. Though it was still interesting to explore another planet, despite it being somewhat similar.

@ronengle9524 2 года назад

I love this channel. Alien. The original is my favorite film of all time. Saw it in the drive INS in 1978 or 79 at 5 years old. Nightmares and a horror fanatic for life ever since

@CMDR_Verm Год назад

Totally agree. The Nostromo, truckers in space and I reckon Veronica Cartwright is a babe! What more could you want? No sarcasm intended, to me the Nostromo felt real, unlike anything I've seen since.

@brandonhill2183 2 года назад

Covenant is The Last Jedi of this new trilogy. No cohesive story or direction for the franchise. Destroyed any world building of the engineers that Prometheus tried to start

@Leondrius 2 года назад

Amen

@pclord20xx Год назад

Well said… I concur💯

@garrybrannigan4311 4 месяца назад

What trilogy? The 2nd movie was that bad it killed the story!

@bewarethemattman 22 дня назад

the difference is that TLJ is actually decent 🚬

@brandonhill2183 22 дня назад

@@bewarethemattman no, it isn't

@garrym5682 2 года назад

Here’s the problem - how do Weyland Yutani not know that they are sending colonists to the same system where the Prometheus went? Of course they do - it’s the most expensive expedition in the history of the company and claimed the life of the founder. So why do they terraform (at enormous cost) 426 which is “a rock” when 223 has a semi-breathable atmosphere as well as a whole bunch of alien pyramids?

@djrakman3909 2 года назад

Ridley is smarter than we think

@Leondrius 2 года назад

@@djrakman3909 Haha. I don't think so.

@djrakman3909 2 года назад

@@Leondrius feel free to make a better film than sir ridley scott

@Leondrius 2 года назад

@@djrakman3909 Challenge accepted. I'm a writer. The idea doesn't scare me.

@djrakman3909 2 года назад

@Weyland Punani also ridley related back to leviticus, leviticus is an interesting book, it is all about the rules set down for humans buy our "creator" (engineers). Ridley is a genius, for sure the plotholes dont add everything up but still..... LV 4:26 "And he (david) shall burn all his fat upon the altar, as the fat of the sacrifice of peace offerings (elizabeth shaw): and the priest (david) shall make an atonement for him as concerning his sin, and it shall be forgiven him." LV 2:23 “Say to them: ‘For the generations to come(USCSS Covenant), if any of your descendants is ceremonially unclean (ship staff) and yet comes near the sacred offerings (human embryos) that the Israelites (engineers in covenant that david killed) consecrate to the Lord (david), that person must be cut off from my presence (david killing the engineers). I am the Lord."

@aurorajones8481 2 года назад

I like the rout they took using LV-223 for Prometheus. I use my own mind to fill in gaps left by the writer or director. For this ill say that the structures on LV-223 were "natural" in appearance indicating a stealth function in that long range sensors would not pick up whats there. Further more LV-223 was a test site or weapons depot so you don't want that blasted out to space for everyone to know. Thus its not going to be picked up by subsequent passers by.

@crabbuckets7506 2 года назад

Happy to see you back doing alien videos here 👌✌

@VogtTD Год назад

Why did they bother terraforming 246 if there was a better planet in the same system? I wonder if 223 was destroyed...

@NobleRaider2747 9 дней назад

223 was left undisturbed- the Deacon became a gigantic living mountain and a lush jungle formed due to the black goo

@Tyranix97 2 года назад

The conversation scene should not have been cut. ... It explained a lot.

@firstnamenlastname 2 года назад

I agree the same signal the Nostromo picked up shouldn’t be the one the Prometheus should’ve traced. I saw video a while back that said it was a nod to Leviticus 22:3 where the unclean is cast away from The Lord, driving home the Paradise Lost theme Ridley Scott wanted for Prometheus (which I really like).

@guest9243 2 года назад

2 videos a day? That a world record!

@LionFire42swag 2 года назад

So true ahha

@CassDaMan1138 2 года назад

Wow... I didn't know that both movies took place in the same planetary system.

@Spector06111 7 дней назад

Covenant completely stuffed up the whole prequel story we had going with prometheus. Such a shame

@Payaso_M13 2 года назад

Nice treat for us !

@syntaxed2 Год назад

I liked the elements introduced in Prometheus - As you say, it gives more depth to the alien universe. The things I dont like about Prometheus and Covenant has more todo about camera/scene changes during story progression - Important events are crammed into very short screentime and the audience doesnt really have time to invest. This is especially true in Covenant...where the backburster and the throatburster scenes overlap in time and we get interweaving shots of both events without enough time to truly invest in any.

@59rlmccormack 2 года назад

Dang film wasn’t so bad, thanks, mate.

@Deeplycloseted435 2 года назад

I didn’t love Prometheus, but when it ended, I at least felt excited about what was next. Shaw taking off with David, headed to investigate further, was okay for me. Once Covenant came out though, it somehow made Prometheus worse. We didn’t need to know the exact origin of the Xenomorph. I feel like only a rookie writer, would think that that mystery was important to fans, or even interesting at all. We were just excited to see how the engineer spacecraft wound up on LV-426, which is what I thought Covenant was going to be about. Instead, it was a very unpleasant horror romp, just to tell us that David is secretly also a genetic engineer and able to fuse different species into new ones. So uninteresting, and kind of boring actually. They can still save it, but I have lost faith that they will.

@mlech6634 5 месяцев назад

David did *not* create *the* Xenomorph. The derelict from the 1979 film has nothing to do with him at all. All he did was fiddle with what the Engineers had already made to make his own version(s). I could've done without Covenant too, but it is what it is.

@alexandervelez9507 6 дней назад

they managed to save it a little with romulus.

@jekelly0908 2 года назад

Original story-Interesting story, closer connection to the original movie, just needs to get fleshed out Fox and Ridley Scott-Nah, let’s change all that to some weird exploration of the origins of man leading to some angry robot making the Alien.

@djrakman3909 2 года назад

Too neat too clean? Okay then....

@Canalus 2 года назад

"Cause I really like Beavis & Butthead" -Ridley Scott, probably

@Marty-lv426 Год назад

I keep finding myself coming back to prometheus and covenant and finding new details after repeat viewings. Something keeps drawing me back in .when I first saw them in theaters I did enjoy them at the time but they felt lazy and mediocre but it's because I didn't realise how smart they were .I was hoping for all out action .but now years later I appreciate that they are great movies and I do hope ridley can finish the story

@lolglolblol 4 дня назад

As much as I like Prometheus on its own, they can fuck off if they really expect us to buy that the Engineer cockpit is supposed to be the same thing as the Space Jockey. Makong the Engineers just big humans was a terrible choice

@lolglolblol 4 дня назад

In general, while I was willong to entertain Prometheus, Covenant ended up really souring me on what they tried to do with the lore. I don't consider either of them canon now

@YEAH-YEAH-YEAH-YEAH-YEAH 6 дней назад

Pretty simple answer; They totally forgot that the jockey in the first movie was there for a looong long time enough to be fossilized. And since the story of prometheus takes only about 30 yrs or so before the first alien movie it simply wouldn’t add up that its the same engineer from the prometheus movie…

@PickleRick65 Год назад

Good Vid👍👌

@scifiexplained Год назад

Glad you enjoyed

@maxumuskohany6580 12 дней назад

Doesn’t make sense if David created the xeno, first he was at Lv 223 then flew to another system just to wipe out a planet, then created the xenos, just for the xenos to appear back in the system of Lv223 on Lv 426? How could David create the face hugger if Prometheus movie showed the face hugger engraved on the wall next to the deacon? Then it had to be recreated by David not created otherwise nothing makes sense

@wyattslater7088 2 года назад

Thank god someone is asking this. But the books kinda answer?

@garnettbrown 18 дней назад

Were the Xenomorphs nature or nurture? Were they a product of nature or a creation? To this day the novels,comics and movies have not answered this.

@christophersims7060 2 года назад

Problem is engineer was fossilized in Alien '79, anything creating the xenomorph species other than natural biology in the "Ripley Universe" is insulting to original fans. Bad enough, Alien 3 (the Ripley Nightmare) killed her and rest of the survivors off. Prometheus and Covenant are OK and if the series follows them while staying away from Ripley timeline, awesome, It should be fun! I could be a fan of both stories still. What I personally see is a multiverse of Aliens/Predators/Engineers, and that's obviously just my personal opinion. 1) Ripley universe 2) Predators universe 3) AVP universe 4) Prometheus universe 5) Dark Horse universes 6) Marvel Alien universe 7) Fan-made universe 8) unknown universe 9) Alien RPG universe 10) video game universes (future) ?

@jekelly0908 2 года назад

I remember seeing the reveal in Prometheus about the engineer and thinking…huh? That’s not how the space jockey looked. I think Scott forgot to watch his original Alien before making Prometheus and Covenant.

@MasterMayhem78 2 года назад

I just hope the next movie ties it all together, and not some third side quest.

@charlesman8722 2 года назад

Honestly they’ve done enough damage with David the movie.

@MasterMayhem78 2 года назад

@@charlesman8722 Maybe you’re right. I don’t know if I could do another one like the last two. I did like Prometheus a bit, but Covenant....ugh. The Alien look cool in Covenant though.

@azmike3572 2 года назад

Even if the next movie did tie it all together, it wouldn't be the end of the saga. If it made a lot of money, there would be further Alien movies, possibly not as good. But the next one should have a great transition from Ripley to someone else.

@Leondrius 2 года назад

What next movie?

@MovieFanobi 2 года назад

I’m glad it was a different planet but why in the same star system? You would think you’d want to terraform a planet in the “safe zone” around a sun. If there was already a habitable planet nearby, why bother?

@CommanderShepard-wq3wo 2 года назад

Most likely the Engineer we saw in Alien crash landed there. He did have a huge hole in his chest after all

@LionFire42swag 2 года назад

Nice

@kuitaranheatmorus9932 2 года назад

Cool

@TheMisterBlackJack 11 месяцев назад

Siempre pensé, que LV era una abreviatura de LEVEL (Nivel en español), que es lo que oímos decir en el doblaje español. También me resulta chocante, que ambas lunas orbiten el mismo planeta y la PROMETHEUS, no captara la señal del DERELICT

@smokindatshit8268 2 года назад

Unfortunately the Prometheus storyline is dead and there’ll be no more films

@adriandelreal9126 4 месяца назад

It sucks because I really liked the movie Prometheus

@ericmiller3708 2 года назад

Soooo, what's on the third moon orbiting the gas giant?

@Workerbee-zy5nx 9 дней назад

3 screw up films, AVP and Prometheus and Covenant..all have nothing to do with alien.

@wartooth88 2 года назад

It's from Leviticus 22:3

@StewBedazzle 2 месяца назад

dunno why I had to scroll so far to read this. Correct

@James-ck4uj 3 месяца назад

Probably not going on vacation there

@linuxzone92 2 года назад

nice 😀👍

@timothy4131 7 месяцев назад

When I first went to the movies to to see this movie I was so excited because I loved aliens and the people who told me about the movie set it to a prequel two aliens on that basis I was excited but then I was let down when I watched the movie so my view of this movie was if it had nothing to do with aliens it was a good movie but I was waiting for the xenomorph and it never came out so once again on the basis of a standalone it would have been a really good movie but being a prequel it was very disappointing

@jacobautor5299 19 дней назад

Covenant is my favorite alien movie. Hot take…fight me. Covenant allows the further expansion of a series that was otherwise stuck in a bad life cycle. The ways you can go and expand the story is phenomenal

@Combatgoblin83 11 дней назад

Hang on so 223 and 426 orbit the same planet? That massively changes the lore as far as weyland yutani’s foreknowledge and makes them sending the nostromo to 426 so so dumb

@elguinolo7358 2 года назад

Because the guy did not read his own script when he wrote the sequel.

@anasantiago3581 2 года назад

No to easy

@Combatgoblin83 11 дней назад

Prometheus and covenant both feel like a big Fuxk you from Ridley Scott to everyone who preferred James Cameron’s take or enjoyed; the comics, the AvP offshoot or the books …… it’s a broomstick in the spokes of the lore

@marjanperveinis8355 13 дней назад

I actualy liked Prometheus but not so much Covenant

@GregoryHorn-bg2nv 5 месяцев назад

a bad movie, i enjoyed. LV 223 much more interesting planet than 426. Space snake wouldn't want to deal, would have took a shot at w/ shotgun at 1st sight, lol. Not a place I'd want to visit. I've watched at least 4 times since its release. Blew Alien 3 away in my opinion! 🕊

@GregoryHorn-bg2nv 5 месяцев назад

Not a bad movie! 🏆

@HailAnts 9 дней назад

It wasn't Fox that got cold feet, it was Ridley Scott. Up until a couple months before release it was clearly stated that _Prometheus_ was a direct prequel to _Alien._ Then, out of nowhere, Scott starts giving interviews saying that it's not. He said, "You'll see certain threads of Alien's DNA but it's not a direct prequel". I feel that he saw the world of all Marvel and DC movies being sequels to each other and decided he was above that. Which could have been ok had _Prometheus_ had a decent, cohesive story, but it didn't. It was a total mess. And _Alien Covenant_ was even worse. I'm still waiting for James Cameron to return to the franchise, I don't think anyone else could pull it off..

@greg666gore 13 дней назад

I am like 700

@filmbuff2777 Год назад

The simple answer is Ridley Scott is an overrated hack.

@unwantedbeing356 2 года назад

To be honest I thought alien Covenant was way way way way way better than Prometheus Prometheus was just a shitshow added together trying to be something it wasn't at least with alien Covenant you got some new xenomorph types and the alien itself and maybe a precursor to where it came from alien Covenant may not be the best but at least it's an alr alien movie

@LordFred69 2 года назад

Prometheus and Covenant are garbage

@Leondrius 2 года назад

I feel like they would be OK if they had nothing to do with the Alien series. Ridley Scott half-stepped on the prequels in a major way. It would've been better to leave it alone unless he had a solid plan. Seems like he changed his mind about what he wanted to do between films, and even during the filming of the first, and it didn't work out. Decent stand-alones, failures as Alien movies.