In my 25years of Porsche ownership covering 9 cars including 2 GT3’s and a 993 turbo, all of them were manuals. When I sold my 981 GT4 last September to buy a mint 2K mile one owner 991.2 GT3 I went for a pdk car at the urging of my long time racing buddy who’s been a master technician at Porsche for over 30 years. He was adamant that the pairing of the 4.0L GT motor and pdk was a magic combination, just as it is in the Cup cars. Boy - he wasn’t wrong. Even though I’ve owned 23 manual cars in my life, paddle shifting with the pdk is brilliant in these cars.
I am owner of manual Spyder, waiting to price go down so I can to buy manual Gt3, Manual is only option for me. I do own 617HP automatic bmw X5 m, it is fast but lack of engagement makes it boring to drive
Although to be fair, X5M (I have one too) is boring not only because it's auto. It's just a boring car due to lacking engagement and tactility on other parts of engaging with the car whether it's steering or even buttons. I also have a PDK 981 GTS, and being able to just shift up and down none stop is a different type of fun than the manual cars. I do miss manual engagement, also have a Spyder on order and waiting for a 991.2 GT3 manual to drop down in price to trade in the 981 GTS
I can see the advantages of a PDK in: 1) competitive racing, 2) when on a Driver Developement Track (tight track that requires constant shifting) while on the Porsche Track Experience course and I want to concentrate on driving techniques, and 3) in bumper to bumper traffic in cities, but then, why waste a Porsche in stop 'n go traffic. I am on back roads and enjoy my manual transmissions.
@@a.c.e.7568 Absolutely there is no better experience.its not about speed for me it's about the engagement with the machine and in this world of dissengaged digital stuff it's a breath of fresh air and fun
I'm older now. Had a 964 and a 993.2 w/MT. Glad I got a 2011 997.2 w/PDK. If you read the owner's manual and get everything dialed in, you're good to go. Easier in heavy traffic, too.
I recently bought my first 911 and I'm one of those people that doesn't know how to drive an automatic and refuses to learn. One thing I noticed as soon as I clicked the "manual" checkbox was the prices went up. Even though it is fair to say that the prices are trending the same way, it is pretty obvious at a glance that you will pay a small premium for that third pedal. I'd like to see a similar comparison on other cars like the Murcielago or Gallardo. My gut tells me that cars that were replaced with automatic-only models have probably increased the desirability of their predecessors. In any case, it seems that other people like me that choose the manual are usually unwilling to compromise on it. Driver's cars have become more and more rare on the new car market and it seems that older models - particularly ones that have strong parts availability still - have exploded because of it.
I have a 2022 Cayman GTS 4.0 in a great color and well specc'd. 1st owner put less than 1500 miles on her. She's a PDK car and incredibly engaging were I drove her, daily driver, local and highway driving, weekend mountain roads. I bought her to keep and drive. Huge smile on my face every time I put the key in the ignition.
Hold my coffee while I do this j-turn. All is fun and games until you have to service the PDK. Porsche will tell you pdk is better because they will make more money selling the new transmission. You humble technician will tell you manual is more cost effective. If you need an auto, buy it and drive it. If you want a manual to row gears, buy a Concept2 Rower and exercise.
It is a Porsche, not a Rembrandt! So get over this pricing thing. As for manuals, some of us are drivers and some of us are passengers and I have driven both, a manual and a PDK.
You didn’t mention anything about the 997.2 and 987.2 market. My anecdotal observation is that manuals command a pretty significant price premium over PDK variants in this generation. Would be interesting to see what the data shows. Especially on the 997.2 GTS models.
What’s most interesting is not the recent price developments for old Porsches, but the fact that the manuals consistently sell for thousands of dollars more than the automatics on the used market, even though they generally cost thousands of dollars less to buy new.
Love a manual car on a sunny day, when I have time to enjoy it. But not sitting in traffic in rain. Seem to spend most of my time in traffic….keep your manual!
I've owned two Porsches; a Cayman GTS & Boxster S & although they're great cars, they are overrated - manual or pdk - & not very impressive in terms of head-turning either; people just think "Another Porsche, okay nice but meh!" whereas I now have a 2021 F-Type P450 AWD & I can tell you categorically it gets more attention despite being dynamically less competent in pretty much all aspects!
To me, not getting attention is a huge plus. I had a car which attracted a lot of attention. People would come and talk to me at the gas station all the time. Head turning etc. It got old very quickly, so I sold it. To each their own though.
Better get whatever it is you’re after soon. Porsche is stopping production of ICE powered cars altogether cars in 2025. Prices for all these cars will eventually get even more ridiculous. As it is I won’t be able to get an older 911 with a manual to go with my 981 w/ PDK. Meanwhile 80% of the world isn’t destroying its own economies with radical environmentalism. Smdh.
"Porsche is stopping production of ICE powered cars altogether cars in 2025" So no ICE cars at all, or do you mean they will be all at least hybrids? Could you please list the source of this info? - Thanks
@@RealEstateClub- 7 Months later, no source, as expected 🤣. Porsche will always produce ICE cars after 2025, although not for each model. The 911 will be hybrid, bu an ICE version will also be proposed. Up to now, Porsche is silent on this.
