Тёмный

Why Mario is PAINFULLY AVERAGE in Melee, and how he changed in Project M 

HONEST CONTENT
Подписаться 28 тыс.
Просмотров 41 тыс.
50% 1

Mario is pretty okay in Melee. Being barely mid-tier basically means you aren't that viable in the Melee Meta. Mario does get buffed in Project M, which helps his character archetype become more fleshed out and overall rewarding to play.
That Forward Air tho
0:00 Why Mario is Painfully Average in Melee
8:34 How Mario was Fixed in PM/Project Plus
Like, comment, and Subscribe!!!
PATREON: / honestcontent
REDDIT: / zachhonest
Thank you to the people on Patreon!
---
gnar
Jose Rosario
Trix
Laserman2
Bavilla Merritt Jr.
DrinkingFood

Игры

Опубликовано:

 

25 июл 2024

Поделиться:

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист
Посмотреть позже
Комментарии : 95   
@ZachHonest
@ZachHonest 2 года назад
Comment Below with any characters you guys want to be covered in the future!
@arnox4554
@arnox4554 2 года назад
Why is P+ Link so shunned despite his absurd defensive power and stage control?
@ZachHonest
@ZachHonest 2 года назад
@@arnox4554 In Melee his speed has a big thing to do with it
@arnox4554
@arnox4554 2 года назад
@@ZachHonest For sure. Melee Link from 64 Link feels a little too much like two steps forward, four steps back. With that said PM/P+ Link is FAR better than either of the two. In my arrogant opinion, people are sleeping on P+ Link hard.
@M64bros
@M64bros 2 года назад
@@ZachHonest The one thing I like about melee Mario is his character design.
@Kingsbeak
@Kingsbeak 2 года назад
link
@M64bros
@M64bros 2 года назад
Despite him being average in melee. The one thing I love about Mario is his character design from melee. It's like an upgraded version of the N64 era It's really cool.
@davidvkimball
@davidvkimball 2 года назад
Couldn't agree more. Artsyle in Melee is the best for this reason.
@M64bros
@M64bros 2 года назад
@@davidvkimball true
@ChinaChamp
@ChinaChamp 2 года назад
Dem jean pockets tho.
@hedgethewedge
@hedgethewedge 2 года назад
Same
@jalilfrancois7700
@jalilfrancois7700 2 года назад
FAIR that’s all I need to say
@neophyte_tpk
@neophyte_tpk 2 года назад
This video is really dope, only confusing thing about it is sometimes the references just don't show the point you're talking about. Like the shiek having good tilts and combos, etc. The clip you referenced just showed shiek getting combo'd which was weird.
@karabowdit2817
@karabowdit2817 2 года назад
Man your content is getting sicker with every upload. The editing in this is a lot of fun!
@DrCoeloCephalo
@DrCoeloCephalo 2 года назад
I like practicing Mario in PM now and again cuz of the simple combos myself. I like how they made him stronger cuz it makes Mario vs Wario tourney matches that much more hype to watch.
@kennythekid130
@kennythekid130 2 года назад
1:59 you could also say he's Mastered by n0ne
@jakeconer
@jakeconer Год назад
I wouldn’t be surprised if Mario was one of the first characters added during development and was result of power creep. I hear that Kirby is often speculated to been power creep too
@DanScamOld
@DanScamOld 2 года назад
I don't play P+ or Melee but this video managed to keep me entertained throughout! Keep up the good work man.
@robertmandella6416
@robertmandella6416 2 года назад
This video has to be my favorite, again man you have really come a long way. Your editing is starting to become better and better after every video.
@justarandomperson5363
@justarandomperson5363 2 года назад
This content is so fucking honest dude. Keep it up 👍
@ZachHonest
@ZachHonest 2 года назад
I try to keep it honest with the content you know... 😂😂😂
@MetiCu
@MetiCu 2 года назад
good video
@ImCookieSparx
@ImCookieSparx 2 года назад
Lol meticu frame one.
@toad4552
@toad4552 2 года назад
Your editing is really great
@autumndth
@autumndth 2 года назад
probably my favorite video from you, vvvv good job!!
@Juron17
@Juron17 Год назад
Really nice editing wish you the best gangy ❤️🙏
@objectionable6693
@objectionable6693 2 года назад
Mario is my main in PM, I'm so excited to watch a video about him
@Outta-hz1ej
@Outta-hz1ej 2 года назад
That is one amazing thumbnail. it really caught my eye
@stupidw33b52
@stupidw33b52 2 года назад
wait a minute... a project+ channel of this caliber has been here this WHOLE TIME? insta subbed
@ahmedsaeed3494
@ahmedsaeed3494 2 года назад
Subscribed keep up the melee content
@MaxJacks
@MaxJacks 2 года назад
Great video!
@XxhadoukenxX
@XxhadoukenxX 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate the Sonic Adventure 2 music you included 👌💯
@ZachHonest
@ZachHonest 11 месяцев назад
You bet, its a classic soundtrack.
@corvax8644
@corvax8644 2 года назад
PM Mario's forward air is fucking nuts
@JDLupus
@JDLupus Год назад
Can anybody remind me where the song that begins at 8:34 is from? I feel like I've heard it for hundreds of hours but I can't for the life of me remember which game it was.
@JDLupus
@JDLupus Год назад
Nevermind, I found it: "Inside the Whale" from Super Monkey Ball 2 :)
@KenitoHB62
@KenitoHB62 2 года назад
the chad dr. mario vs. the virgin mario. you should totally cover dr. mario next tho :D
@WIImotionmasher
@WIImotionmasher 2 года назад
ehys everything stretched horizontally did you capture a 4:3 feed that was stretched to 16:9 ?
@TheHazard36
@TheHazard36 2 года назад
I think I would be more interested in these if they focused on official releases. Like what False Swipe Gaming does with Pokemon
@ZachHonest
@ZachHonest 2 года назад
I'm pretty sure false swipe gaming already does that too
@8oxcast295
@8oxcast295 2 года назад
7:19 Honest content: Speed of the recovery Me: Its still better than fox's which is like 1.5 seconds of startup
@gnardawgyt
@gnardawgyt 2 года назад
Mario had quite the glowup to PM
@cloudshines812
@cloudshines812 2 года назад
Smash Bros: *Mario being a consistent mid tier* Competitive Players: We’re about to do what’s called a pro gamer move…
@Dorriedude
@Dorriedude 2 года назад
future mario players getting top 8: *ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT*
@Dorriedude
@Dorriedude 2 года назад
@Rat posiibly
@yayayayayaya8140
@yayayayayaya8140 Год назад
@@Dorriedude doc will be there before mario will be tho hes just better
@Dorriedude
@Dorriedude Год назад
@@yayayayayaya8140 no
@TheLuckystar96
@TheLuckystar96 2 года назад
Does anyone know the name of all the music tracks he uses in this video? they sound really awesome but I have no idea were they come from. except "fly into freedom".
@MystDawg
@MystDawg 2 года назад
I don't know all of them but I'll try to share my thoughts 1 Mario kart Wii classy remix 2 sounds like it's from Mario strikers Update: Funky Stadium- Mario Kart Wii 3 Sonic Adventure 2 -n102 Fahrenheit (name guess) 4 Sounds like it's from monkey ball 5 unknown 6 can't tell Thanks for reading my 10/10 insight pls like
@TheLuckystar96
@TheLuckystar96 2 года назад
@@MystDawg thank you so much for the info, i really appreciate that you took the time to answer.
@MystDawg
@MystDawg 2 года назад
@@TheLuckystar96 No problem muchacho, I am glad to be helping
@KyberJar
@KyberJar Год назад
Music used?
@Zinksk8er
@Zinksk8er 2 года назад
Dedicated Falcon main in melee. Wario player in P+. I love Wario to death, if Wario was 26th rank in melee... Idk what I'd do 😅 might just have to play him.
@Cupheadsadvocate
@Cupheadsadvocate Год назад
As a Mario main I see where you're going with this
@electropolitan4386
@electropolitan4386 2 года назад
Great music choices
@GoldGuard
@GoldGuard 2 года назад
Does anyone here know what songs are used in this video? I music list in the description would be helpful.
@electropolitan4386
@electropolitan4386 2 года назад
@@GoldGuard Funky Stadium - Mario Kart Wii Bright Sound...For Dry Lagoon - Sonic Adventure Space Colony - Monkey Ball 2 Whale - Monkey Ball 2 Idk the rest
@GoldGuard
@GoldGuard 2 года назад
@@electropolitan4386Thanks a lot!🙏🏽 How did you find these songs? There are a lot of videos where I like the music but I can’t know songs because they’re never listed. Is there a method to finding these songs in videos or were these just songs that you already knew?
@electropolitan4386
@electropolitan4386 2 года назад
@@GoldGuard Sure thing, I grew up with these games, I love their soundtracks. You might be able to try Shazam, dunno if it'd work
@what.4205
@what.4205 2 года назад
Mario mario luigi mario
@Dorriedude
@Dorriedude 2 года назад
LESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@LHSMeleeClub
@LHSMeleeClub 2 года назад
im liking that monkey ball 2 music lol
@Xxblade17
@Xxblade17 2 года назад
Cool
@ColbertAwesome
@ColbertAwesome 2 года назад
Mario is awesome in smash bros
@user-uk1xq1cf6z
@user-uk1xq1cf6z Месяц назад
1:25 no, actully the largest drop in the game is zelda as she was top 6 in melee's first tier list before becomming a bottom tier
@UltimateTS64
@UltimateTS64 2 года назад
P+ Mario is fun, but Luigi is where it's at for me and I hate playing Luigi in almost every Smash game
@icyy4533
@icyy4533 2 года назад
great video but, can you make it so what your talking about is referencing the gameplay all the time? no need just a nit pick from me though. heavily underrated youtuber though!
@hylianfelldragon1308
@hylianfelldragon1308 4 месяца назад
Hold up. Doesn't Fox have piss poor ranged too and he's considered OP in Melee's competitive environment?
@CeilingPanda
@CeilingPanda 2 года назад
Meanwhile Zelda moved way lower than Mario from a similar initial spot.
@javianmonserrate8930
@javianmonserrate8930 Год назад
Well Doctor Mario has the same dash speed, air speed, air acceleration and fast fall speed and his attacks are slightly more laggy and soem are less range for greater combo starters, koing and knockback. Luigi is the slowest and gets koed the easiest and with more predictiable attacks but he has better koing, knockback, misfire is better recovery if you get the lucky 12.5 percent chance and he for some people says the best combo character out of the 3, some people say it. For a mid teir recovery, mario has the best recovery with luigi or mid and low teirs. It's predictable and hard to master. Mario has a cape for stalling his recovery Up special is an decent recovery And his down special can be a recovery He does have a good wall jump. +Good combo game + multiple recovery +Good out of shield options +Low Lag attacks +Good zoning by his fireball +Decent edgeguard by fireball and cape. -Lacks range -Preditable recovery -Great against low teir characters -Lacks Ko -struggles against high teir characters -lacks a good grab -Outclassed by his clones Also spoiler for who didnt watch the video, mario was significantly puffed by project M and P plus. His attacks are faster, stronger, betterrecovery, edgeguard, Ko options and was shown A lot in tournaments, he is consumed a midnight teir or a high teir character meaning you are great in the game, he beated marth and has favorable matchups. Mario Dash speed 1.5 Don't be a slow character ,(Mario has an average dash speed) Because it ruins combos, Retreats, Approaching, recovery and Zoning like bowser. Also has low lag attacks because if you dont then Frame 1 shine will be great against it and your attacks are predictable Mario has some had some bonuses in melee that keeper it from being crazy good or terrible. His attacks have lower knockback +Better combos -Worse Koing potential His Up smash is faster +less predictable -but at the cost of lower damage. Mario is an jack of all trades. He us great for comboes and edgeguarding. Hes a decent zoner and a decent recovery. But his attacks are weak, lacks Ko options, his recovery is predictable, an struggles against high teir characters. Thank you for your time. Like your vids honest Content
@OUTOFSTAR365
@OUTOFSTAR365 Год назад
Is Mario unviable in melee?
@fozell3640
@fozell3640 11 месяцев назад
Yes
@CinnamonOwO
@CinnamonOwO 2 года назад
Why are you stretching Melee to 16:9? The game is 4:3, it looks horrible stretched
@HospitalTaDaronn-mc8mz
@HospitalTaDaronn-mc8mz Год назад
Mario is okay
@BabyDeath68
@BabyDeath68 2 года назад
1:24 Zelda, actually.
@jameslisterthemarthplayer8322
Personally, I think Mario was a decent fighter in Melee. He did have problems, which weren’t that big of a deal until Brawl. Also I’ve been able to defeat Giga Bowser with Mario on the day of writing this comment.
@apoocumber4164
@apoocumber4164 2 года назад
As someone who plays both doc and Mario, I prefer Mario
@SiMgUrL1721
@SiMgUrL1721 Год назад
I never really played as Dr. Mario all that much in "Melee", but I've played as both Luigi and Mario a lot over the years. LOL
@nowool1999
@nowool1999 2 года назад
Mario is like a welfare combination of Falcon and Sheik lol.
@KuhEssen
@KuhEssen 2 года назад
This is anti-mario propaganda.
@LegitBacKd00rNiNJa69
@LegitBacKd00rNiNJa69 Год назад
YOU DON'T MENTION THAT Dr's B-air in melee was a weak semi-spike while Mario's was a generic medium power aerial. And in PM its a medium power semi-spike!
Далее
Top 10 WORST Special Moves in Super Smash Bros. Melee
11:13
НРАВИТСЯ ЭТОТ ФОРМАТ??
00:37
Просмотров 3,9 млн
Did Super Mario 64 DS improve the stages?
17:15
Просмотров 94 тыс.
8 Speedruns That Have Been Completely Ruined
31:19
Просмотров 615 тыс.
Pokemon Revealed a Generation Early
17:00
Просмотров 330 тыс.
Can I fix a CORRUPT PlayStation 2 save file?
18:10
Просмотров 999 тыс.
How Mario Games Got Weird Again
20:02
Просмотров 16 тыс.