Why Multiversus Crashed & Burned 

TBH ain't playing with this content output, the bounceback from G4 has been immaculate

I miss the old days when you unlocked characters by playing the game

Games fail a lot these days because people are relying on their business skills instead of creativity skills.

The lag definitely killed it for me. I would have instances when me and an opposing character would be back-to-back but I would still be getting hit.

The game to me just lacked polish. something I took for granted when it came to fighting games was the high level of polish in nearly all of the major ones. (Hell, take away the health bars and FighterZ looks like you're literally watching an episode of DBZ) It really hit me when I played smash bros for the first time in a while after playing multiversus and it was night and day in terms of animation, sound design, presentation, and over all sense of impact.

I’ve been telling my friends for years that competitive gaming kills the enjoyment of video games. After classes all day I’m not trying to sweat on a video game everyday I play.

“Pro gaming is killing the fun in games” I’ve been discussing that with my friends for a few years now. It’s like no one plays games for themselves anymore. I’m going to use MK11 for example. I consider myself a pretty good MK11 player. I love getting a new fighting and trying out characters in the lab creating my own combos and strats, but it seems like everyone else just wants to copy these “pros”. You hop online and EVERYONE is literally playing the exact same way because they want to be the next SonicFox or NinjaKilla. It just makes the game feel boring because every fight feels like Deja Vu since no one wants to learn their own strats and combos.

Multiverses should allow us to earn characters. The way they give you the tiniest amount of money to make you keep playing is ridiculous

I stopped playing because of the floaty mechanics as well. Like it was mentioned before, the punches didn't feel like they had weight

The battlepass is god awful man. Progressing slowly, barely getting any rewards, and the micro transactions being expensive just sucked. Then there’s just clear balance issues like Finn when it first dropped, Iron Giant, and Shaggy to this day is still OP as hell. Just too little too late, big fall off.

Man TBH is so consistent and entertaining. This is 100x better than previous years. Always felt like you deserve millions of views and with this new method and editing you will

what stopped me is that we’re in Season 2 but the game still feels like it did during the second alpha

8:56 I think about this shit all the time. The "pro gamer"/streamer scene constantly accelerates the sweat levels in every single new release borderline instantly. Hundreds of "DOMINATE your lobbies with THIS BROKEN SETUP!" videos or tier list videos all streamlining the meta to the the masses thus killing folk's fun and general gameplay experiences who might not be into that scene. And my biggest frustration with it is exactly as you said - for what?! Most of us are either average or slightly above average at the competitive games we play and no money is coming from it unless you're making it as a streamer. Shit be killing me 😩

I was an avid player, still am, the main problem is the balancing and server issue. I played bugs and while yeah I’d admit he was quite easy, I’ve been getting into Shaggy and Finn recently since that’s all I see, and i these characters are just too good. They don’t lose 1v1s so that mode is essentially just meta spam, so you go to 2v2s where everyone just runs triple jump and taz trig bc it’s the meta. And you are straight up going to lose if you don’t run these characters or these perks. Iron giant is a free kill everytime bc Finn, Bugs, Shaggy are already hitstunning you to oblivion. Let’s not even discuss the fact some characters can’t ring out ppl until 230 *cough* gizmo. Problem comes from lvl 30 Finn’s, Bugs and Shaggys just abusing the obnoxious and obvious meta just so they can win the meme game. The game was best taken as a fun competitive joke and not a reused meta mechanic. Honestly get rid of those two perks and the game would be a whole lot different. I’m a lvl 25 bugs now but I’m also a lvl 24 Tom and Jerry, lvl 20 taz and supe, along with 10+ characters on mostly everyone except Harley and Steven, not sure on shaggy but pretty up there. And I’m just bored. I’ve played all these characters and I know what’s going to happen based on the matchups most of the time unless like someone just actively throws. And man. The matchmaking is abysmal, probably bc I’ve played a lot but I feel like I’m constantly fighting for my life by myself when I solo queue 2v2s. It’s horrendous.

Loving this new content TBH! nice addition of the reddit dive as well!

I honestly think the game is missing mechanics. It needs a block mechanic and each character needs an ultimate move. That and fixing lag will save the game

I played this game for the first two months and honestly all the people spamming the same moves with the same characters(same character duo) and the lag just killed it for me I tried to come back too it after a another month or so and there was no retaining factor for me to stay and play the game

Like you said, not having ranked within the first month of release really put a dent in the games potential. A lot of people nowadays look forward to a ranked feature in these live service games. Without it, there’s not as much of an incentive to get better.

I personally dropped the game because it feels like each character had some unique buff or debuff that you had to play around, which made me and others stick to the more simple characters. Also, I hate the attack decay since it’s either too punishing or not punishing enough.

I think taking in some of the feedback from the community would benefit it, plus a whole new trailer for the game showing said improvements, featuring roadmaps and characters patch notes etc.

The main reason I stopped playing was because of the lag. Every time me and friend wanted to play we would lag so bad that we could not even fight.

I still think this game really needed more single player content, like even just a classic mode to try out characters without worry of facing strong online competition wouldve been nice.

Another great video👏🏽. I liked that you gave your opinion first then showed the Reddit comments. It shows that you aren’t basing your opinion on the opinions of others. It also leaves room for your point of view to not match up with others in future review videos.

im geekd. said the shrapnel. long time sub and am liking the direction of the content

great vid, liked the G4 style vid

I really liked this format TBH🙌🏾 One thing that i thought made it hard to continue multiversus was the lack of defensive options. Dodging is cool but it feels a little too hectic when i can’t just stand my ground and block.

I think another reason the game died was because there was a lot of people comparing it to smash bros a little too much even saying it’s better or having potential roster wise to be better rather than taking the game as it was for it’s self

For me personally it was the fact that, like, 98% of the characters were locked behind an expensive paywall when you first start the game, and the only way to not have to pay real world currency on this ostensibly free to play game is to grind for hours on end with the same character over and over.

I don't think it's deeper than the gameplay is shallow. It's the kind of game that's fun for a bit and then loses its appeal.

Loving the content, and the jokes been having me dying 😂

Really enjoyed this new style of video

I randomly clicked this video... didn't realize it was black hokage! Fucking love this guy! Haven't watched him in years! He's looking great. Love the slightly more video essay type content

The lag is horrendous. I'll be hitting through someone and once my animation is done my opponent shows that they are already hitting me. Some how rank 30 and above figured out how to have smooth matches though because they are the main ones this happens with.

It should've been more of a party game with fun game modes

I’ve watch 2 videos and I’m subbing. Your entertaining asf! 😂😂

That one user on the last reddit screenshot saying the added up total for all consumables *on release* was sixteen hundred bucks.... *holy shit*

great topic, solid insight

Thank you for the free beats for stream man ima small streamer on kick and I use them faithfully

This aged well...

I'm shocked he didn't mentioned how it's bizarre this game didn't launch on the one platform where Smash Bros fans are. It's like launching an online FPS everywhere but PC.

Personally for me the speed at which you can get enough currency to unlock characters killed it for me. The thing with fighting games is being able to learn multiple characters and become proficient with them at your own pace and have a variety of characters to use. While this game has the super stars, I didnt want to spend weeks farming enough ingame currecny to place another character. While the weekly rotation is nice, getting the characters you actually wanted just took too long

For me Multiverse took an arcadey approach to the game which is fine for early on but they didn't develop much with the ranked playlist for people that wanted to get more engrossed and play it on a competitive level.

I did not expect that Intro wisdom to hit me so hard I'll ease up on my life expectations having autism and all

And now with not just Street Fighter 6, but also Tekken 8 and Mortal Kombat 12, this will now be remembered as one of the biggest years in fighting game history

Definitely need a big overhaul if they wanna stand a fighting chance

From a FGC prospective this was very well researched. One of the reason i couldnt get more into the game, was the priorty system ( or lack there of). This game ran mostly on who's hitbox was bigger and the majority of character just fell short to any character with big hitboxes and projectiles. Garnet (a character who has always been low tier) has a ability to deal with projectiles and one of the only characters to deal with projectiles. She sucked against it, the balancing always sucked man. I loved this game and was waiting for Raven to come out to start playing again, but man i dont think that's going to happen

All I can say is welcome back brotha

This video is great I love your style I’ll definitely sub to stick around.

Bro you making JUICY content

Great video, some good reasons here. Feel one of the other ones that worth mentioning that wasn't really said is the no couch co-op or offline campaign mode and such. The reason Smash is so great besides having well thought out characters, move sets, and good feeling combat is the variety of ways and modes for people to mess with. Sure most of the time you are playing time battle or stock mode, but sometimes you want to switch it up try some challenges or the campaign fight rush (Which is in like every other fighting game imaginable) Not everybody wants to just try to climb to the top of ladder.

I didn’t Want Back 4 Blood to die out either… but there’s nothing to do after beating all 6 Chapters on No Hope.

The beautiful consistency of TBH is amazing.

2:19 I remember that “Lord Jamar” interview, lol

Sorry that the G4 thing didn't woryk out, but I don't think you could have seen that coming, you did what you could, and you got a new fan out of it in me. Keep up the production grind! I remember kicking ass and rising to Level 20 as Tom and Jerry....and then I just got bored and went back to Smash Bros.

Another issue with Multiversus was how long it took to unlock a new character, having to grind hours for coins was hell

Tiktok generation is something that I think plays a role even if slightly. Unless a game has a certain charm to it, the game will fall off dramatically because there’s always something to go back to or something new coming out. Mfs have short attention spans so it’s always on to the next

the connection is what killed it for me. the lag, the constant spikes at 38% because you're stuck at the ground. then shoot off. everyone bounces all over. Multiversus is amazing. I'll hope and pray the game comes out.

I really liked this game. I wish more people kept playing it.

Checked the player count today because I found it sitting in my steam library, somewhere around 40 players was the peak for the last 24 hours

I won't say it's dead yet. Skullgirls has come back numerous times for example. However, I most likely won't go back to the game. Like you mentioned, there wasn't much for good rewards to grind for. The micro transactions were as much as $20, and I've bought indie games like Signalis for that.

This needed to have a ton of characters and a set price imo. Where my boy Johnny bravo at?

Insane how much $ the gaming industry racks in no way it triumphs music and movies combined I can’t believe that

I genuinely thought they were going to drop a story mode on the game that never came out. On top of that it took forever for them to update with any new content and when they did, the content wasn’t that impressive

I live in Southeast Asia and tried playing it on Series X … no servers at all. I think I tried playing twice in the first three, four months but never could. Maybe it would still be dead in the water by now but I think they didn’t give themselves a fighting chance by limiting this to US and Europe.

There’s a few issues with the game. But for me the two biggest issues are the lack of updates. And the huge grind. I don’t want to get through so much hassle just to barely afford any of the shop content

I've been playing fighting games since the 90s back in the arcades, and I still cannot see these type of platform games as real fighting games, I played Multiversus for 2 months I think but those games are made for a casual audience who won't invest too much time or money in order to keep the game alive.

Hopefully the game developers watch this video so they can learn

I think multiversus needs to 1. Releases the game on the Nintendo switch (most people who play smash like games play on the switch) 2. Add more cartoon network characters (I cant believe we only have four CN characters from only two different shows) 3. More unique maps (currently there are only 9 unique maps in the game) 4. More single player content 5. Reduce the lag

Bro the game was so fun, if they had more characters from Cartoon Network or Adult Swim on release it would’ve been more popular because people would’ve tried it out to play their favorite characters. Example: Courage the Cowardly Dog, Johnny Bravo, Samurai Jack, Aku, Teen Titans(og not the new shit), Master Shake, Meatwad, Frylock. Other IPs that they own like the Flintstones or Terminator.

I honestly remember the game being fun, had some good sessions using mostly harley quinn n lebron, but i honestly agree with most of those reddit posts. As someone who always grew up with smash bros as the model for these types of fighters the game just felt alot floatier than smash does and it just didnt feel like your attacks had any weight to them in comparison. And it didnt help that it overall feels spammy and sweaty, with a serious balancing issue when it comes to those top level meta characters you mentioned. The update for ranked came way too late to keep most of the sweats online and the lack of nerfs/buffs to the characters that need them never happened to make people who just wanna mess around with all the characters leave just as fast

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Thts crazy I haven’t seen one of Yur videos since mwn days

Multiversus offered more as typical live service game than a fighting game. When people play fighting games you don’t play as a team with anyone, 1v1s a huge appeal to FGs, it makes it more satisfying to train and grow as a player when you only have yourself to blame, plus 1v1s in general are just more competitive i’d argue. It’s no surprise there was a split in Multiversus’s audience where a lot of people were playing 1v1s, while the game was trying to push the less favorable 2v2. Big problem there was the characters by themselves were bare bones af in 1v1, it’s like turning 3v3 tag fighter into a 1v1 game, suddenly it’s boring af because there’s barely anything to learn on any character. One of the biggest appeals to FGs is the sense of getting better with your character, in Multiversus you pretty much figured a character out in 2 hours because they’re too simple for 1v1, and off the bat half the things in their kit are locked behind a lvl. That’s another thing you never do in fighting games imo, have a characters potential be locked behind levels. It’s just bad for the first impressions when you feel like you have to grind a character out to even have their full kit. Other than that Multiverus was also pretty uneventful in its system mechanics, it just copied everything from smash but did it worse, MUCH worse, then it was laggy on top of that.

I like your new content a lot

That last one hit hard cause im actually goin through a break up

Classic case of Icaros. Tried to fly too high and got his wings burned. Tough luck.

I played for a few weeks after it dropped. It was a good game, but it did not really hold my attention. What killed it for me was the character rotation. I mean, yeah, it's my fault for playing a free-to-play game for free, but it hits on the point you mentioned in the video about playing with certain characters.

We need characters that we wanna play! If the start whipping out cartoon network guys like courage, samurai jack, and mordecai then they would be cooking.

if they had just made the base characters free to play id have stuck around longer but the player rotation thing was killing it for me then then i would play for like 2 weeks and just get enough to buy a character i wanted whos unlocked this week and the 1 ive been grinding with now i gotta buy it was driving me crazy ill deal with smashs online lag

My reason for not playing was none of the characters felt good to play on pick up like smash does.

The lag was crazy

Well this aged well

I feel like the reason why so many people hate the floatiness in the game is because the longer you spend in the air in these types of fighting games, the longer it takes to get back to playing the game. There are _some_ characters that can somewhat stand being in the air, like iirc Bugs and Superman, but if you aren't playing a good air character, you aren't playing the game for 30% up to maybe 60% of the time depending on your character choice as well as mismatch. That 30 - 60% is instead spent on trying to get back to the stage and planning your entry; which is also made harder by the 2v2 format due to needing to watch out for two players instead of just one like, for example, in Smash singles.

Yeah every comment was valid I feel like multi with a path or two could definitely come back but they taking way to long to drop content let alone the content be a worthy investment.

I feel like another reason missed is the lack of wanted characters, and the lack of fixing broken characters all the characters are solid, but characters like velma they nerfed pretty hard while now Morty, Iron giant, and superman remain broken so even as a high level player it is almost impossible to compete as any normal character and that sucks.

They said they would try getting more characters outside of just WB, but that remains to be seen.

I love the Lord Jamar edit

I honestly forgot all about this game till I seen your notification pop up. It wasn’t a bad game, but it felt empty. It’s kind of a shame

This game is still considered an open beta. I think when the game dropped officially it will have some greatness to it.

I also heard that they changed the level grind for the battle pass and it angered the people that liked the level of grinding for the battle pass.

Look at the way the characters move

Im no gamer, but I was on Multiversus hard when it first dropped…kinda corny now

Was that a weekly planet reference?

It's crazy how a game like multiversus is failing you would think that with characters alone it would be successful

It wasn’t the main reason for dropping off, but the lack of new characters I was interested in certainly contributed. Lebron was the only one I even bothered trying out in actual matches, but that was when he was free for everyone. Still waiting on a Cartoon Cartoon to be added. Oh, there’s also the fact that the only missions that were specific to any of the characters were “wins as a DC character” and “block projectiles with Wonder Woman’s shield.” The game only encouraged me to play Wonder Woman, who everyone got just for play the tutorial, and Harley Quinn, one of the few characters I bothered to permanently unlock. What makes it worse is that they had more varied missions on release. If not for the “win as Mage” mission I had from the Season 0 battle pass, I might not have ever unlocked Bugs Bunny

Every time I ready up I get someone who is ether afk or just sd but most of the time I just get a player who is not ment to play fighting games

2:31 2:44 2:52 3:33 4:12 5:17 7:08 7:46 8:57 Well Said. 10:00

If something gonna be called a blank killer it's likely the opposite in reality.

I really enjoy the game, as a Garnet main. Timing is crucial for both dodging and set ups. But the lag really kills the experience. It comes in and out, sometimes in the most crucial of moments. there other times where I’m trying to recover and the character glitches as he/she falls down, disregarding the command input. Also some janked hit boxes were you get hit without the animation matching it, or the character clearly touching the other one but no hit or stunt. Shaggy, bugs, and Harley are the ones that I’ve seen where they throw the attack and it hits way before you see the animation actually making contact with the opponent. The only way i can see them salvaging the game is ; 1. fix the lag, 2. fix the many glitches the game has,, 3. lower the price on those damn skins, seriously 20$ for just a one! That ludicrous. At least make it 20$ for a bundle of them.

Ngl I still play this game semi frequently. I personally play with my older brother since it’s one of the few entertaining cross platform games that we have but we have both running into some of the same issues brought up. People playing the same meta characters, spamming, or double characters on the same team. Nowadays you literally run into shaggy, Finn, and Harley nearly every match and it’s honestly annoying. The need to do an overhaul on the damage degradation and making it so people can switch it up easier. Also add new characters more frequently cause from day 1 I was talking to my brother about Courage the Cowardly dog being added and how much I’d love to see it. Yet they have added only 7 characters I think so far and people rarely play them cause of progression.