Where Did It All Go Wrong? - Multiversus 

What was it that made you quit playing Multiversus?

It's crazy to me that you can hold 2 "seasons" and sell stuff in the game during a BETA and then just close the game till its full release

Keep in mind that multiversus had the most promising start. Smash just put out their final update with Sora, nick all stars being bad, and no platform fighter or heck other fighting games release near them They literally squandered their golden start

People often overlook this one very important thing, more important than Akshon listed at the end of the video: An actual different game modes. Im not talking about 1v1, 3v3 etc They need to add something to keep casuals playing the game with something else. This is what Granblue Versus Rising is remedying with the Grand Bruise minigame

My #1 problem with multiversus is that it's kinda hard to read as a spectator. There's a lot of status effects and cooldowns and stuff that isn't immediately clear unless you know what you're looking at. Contrast that with Smash Bros (or most other fighters tbh), where even if you don't know the game that well you can pretty much follow a match bc almost all of the information you need is pretty straightforward on the screen.

Multiversus not having Asia servers was also a factor, and the main reason why I personally stopped playing. Not letting countries like Japan or China access the game is a death sentence to most esports in general.

It's sad. This game could have been legendary.

platform fighters just need more time to come out. whether its greedy publishers with dollar signs in their eyes or developers underestimating the time they need, platform fighters are almost always coming out unfinished and its pretty upsetting as a big fan of them. (of course that's not to say that its the ONLY problem, its just the biggest and pretty much prevalent with every release) also i should say that it doesn't make me mad because i don't like them (hell, nasb is probably my favorite platform fighter), it makes me mad because first impressions are everything nowadays, and the worse a launch for a game is the more likely that people refuse to give it another chance when it gets better also a little correction for 6:46, nakat did stop competing in the game, but he did actually join the multiversus team as a community manager, so he's definitely committed to the game

What killed the game for me is not having support for 2 player online matches on the same console. I only play brawlhalla 2v2 with cousin and we'd like to play multiversus, but their praised 2v2 does require us to be on different devices instead of hotseat. That is absolutely stupid and fully destroyed our interest in the game.

TL;DW ◇No casual side modes ◇No ranked matchmaking ◇Weird disjointed hitboxes ◇Poor netcode ◇Inconsistent content updates

I feel robbed, KOF XV was supposed to win 2022 Game Awards as Best Fighting Game but Multiversus did instead when it was a mere Beta and is launching on 2024!

I wish it was just a regular full price game with some sort of single player mode. You got the voice actors, could've had a fun story mode.

Wait this game was in "beta" this whole time? What kind of Beta allows you to empty your wallet, then revoke the stuff you bought. That's wild tbh

It wasn't even available on Steam for us in the Philippines. And I also heard about the netcode issues. That's a killer for online fighting games. I probably would've quit as well even if it were available for us here.

You covered most of it, although I was surprised that you didn't mention that part way into the first season, I believe they literally doubled the experience required to level up the battle pass or unlocks for characters, which grinded progression to a halt unless you were playing non-stop. That, and then refusing to correct specific balance issues (Jake's backpack, Harley Quinn's hitbox, or the entire character of stripe) were the reasons my friends and I stopped playing it. It started off fun, and progressively became less fun, which made it harder to forgive the issues like the lag spikes and the ridiculous monetization.

Another thing people don't usually mention added to the decline in players, is WB killing the mod support. Mods keep a lot of casual players coming back to the game. Case in point; Guilty Gear Strive.

something I can't explain super well but that turned me off from the game more than anything else, was that moves didn't feel good to land. It felt like I was button mashing even though I was being intentional with my attacks. A lot of time spent whiffing, and combos ending early because of how weird movement is.

Specifically as a top 10 Garnet Main, I was more so just exhausted from lack of reward for the grind, other than literal bragging rights. I wanted the new characters to drop soon & fast, never gave a sh*t about maps. I was -patiently waiting on Joker & Godzilla, but from an obviously hyper-realistic standpoint: there was no conceivable way they could output meaningful characters with well-balanced kits that were still fresh, fun, & exciting in the expected optimal time frame to meet everyone's consumer needs. The game seemed to phantom-promise us much, but when that slowly turned into just paying for battle-passes & grinding mindlessly every event for a skin on a character I wouldn't use: it was simply too much. So long Multiversus..you brought me so much joy in that small but humbling time frame. I had an amazing time sh*tting on people with Garnet at the higher levels of gameplay. I fought Tamunokuro (arguably the #1 Shaggy at the time) during his rise to the top & even bumped into GSMVoid on his Black Adam in 2's that was thrilling. Fought a couple more of the top 5 global ranked leaderboard players since the ladder is such a small world & had the greatest time bragging amongst friend on how high up I was. But now the game is coming to a reprieve & with that, hats off to you Player First Games; I hope by the time you re-release the finished polished product in early 2024 like you advertise you will, it'll be another moment bringing all us platform-fighter lovers together once again! :)

I think its a good thing they supported the competitive scene, but what differences Smash from other platform fighters is that you can play it super casually with all its modes, you can get a general idea of how smash works just messing around with it. I would say ts equally important to maintain your casual players, they're the majority.

The problem was that it was far too successful than they anticipated. The devs were ABSOLUTELY not prepared for this. The small game they anticipated would only have a few thousand players bloated to millions, and now the small dev team has to juggle server and game upkeep along with content updates. It's basically Splitgate all over again

It's really unfortunate to see honestly. I really like Multiversus, and me and my friend were able to get to be apart of the 1% best players. Even so the matchmaking is either you meet super high levels, or new players. It just sucks that so few people are playing this game, it is lots of fun.

Another "Smash Killer" has came and went.

It’s been such a joy to have been with the Akshon Esports fam since the prime Overwatch days, it seriously makes my day every time I see an upload. Keep up the amazing work 🙏

I hope im sharing this sentiment with other people here, but i always watch this channel's videos no matter the subject. They literally never miss, and now set this high standard cemented in my mind for their videos and they always live up to it. also love the voice, keep it going team!

As an avid platform fighter player that dropped it, the game just has a bad feel for me that i cant explain, like loose in a wrong way, like a controller that rattles when you shake it.

My biggest issue with this game was the p2w that I felt it had. The level system ruined it. I'd play with 4 of my boys and we have fun because we have about the same game time. Then I switch to solo queue and get my lvl 5 team wrecked by a level 14 team. After a few match ups like that, I quit. I won't play a game that's gonna ruin my mood with unfair match making.

Void & Nakat left because Nakat was hired by PlayerFirstGames to become their Community Manager. This meant he was no longer able to compete in tournaments due to that being a requirement for working for them. Void didn't want to play the game with anyone else so he hasn't entered tournaments because of this. Also, anything that players paid for whether they are skins etc are still accessible in Local play and will transfer over to the full release. As a professional commentator for MultiVersus I believe full heartedly in this game. I know it will do better once the full release happens. This was going to happen eventually as it was a beta, and they got so much feedback that they are now properly able to adjust the game and make it something truly amazing.

The thing that I find so weird about platform fighters is that they are expected to have a roster of characters from other IPs. There's nothing intrinsically valuable to having a wide swath of characters and in any other genre of game it would be considered gimmicky. Even Rivals of Aether and Brawlhalla have crossover characters on top of their original cast. Sometimes it feels like players just want notable characters more than a solid platform fighter.

A game that had a battle pass and won awards is still in beta and is closing down. This kind of stuff in the industry makes me cynical

The game needs a block mechanic. Each player having an ultimate move as well would really bring it back

Here’s the thing, with the licenses behind it via WB, it should NOT have been a Freemium game. Or at the very least, have a retail version/option to go with it. Other Freemium Platform Fighters usually start out Indie, and have original characters with no expectations. That itself is a blessing in disguise. The only problem Nick’s game had that this game also shared is the severe lack of extra modes, such as an Adventure, Mini Games, Items, etc. Because with Smash, despite how big it’s tournament scene is that both tried to compete with, it’s the general and casual options that keep Smash open for anyone in the long run. Just to mess around with friends be it locally or online. Even Rivals of Aether added such content over time, and that game was made with a fraction of the cost Multiverses. Not to mention having a far smaller roster, including DLC (but not Custom characters). The bizarre buff/debuff 2v2 gameplay certainly didn’t help either.

It's also one of the last projects Kevin Conroy got to work on. 😢

8:48 In the topic of having a strong IP This seems to be something people don't realize, but Mutiversus did NOT have a strong IP behind it. If you ask someone what do characters like Mario, Link and Pikachu have in common, you'll hear people say "they're videogame characters", more knowledgeable people will be more specific and say "Nintendo characters". If you ask them what do characters like Sponge Bob, Aang and Danny Phantom have in common, you'll hear "cartoon characters", some people will even recognize they are all Nickelodeon characters. If you ask them what do characters like Bugs Bunny, Arya Stark and Batman have in common, "Warner Brothers" is not the first thought in anyone's minds. The game has a hard time gaining a passionate fanbase because there's no identidy, the characters don't share anything other than a company that just so happens to own their rights. People are Nintendo fans, people are Nickelodeon fans, similarly, people are Looney Tunes fans, people are DC fans, no one is a Warner Brothers fan.

It's truly a shame of what going on with MultiVersus right now, the game was so massively successful it won two fighting awards in just a half quarter of the year but after one glaring issue to a nother a long with no new characters each week since season 2 started the games popularity and attraction had faded off hopefully the game will get it footing again when it the servers are back online.

The thing that made me stop playing was the constant nerfing of characters, while releasing new characters that were incredibly strong. I used to main Batman, and after a certain point he was nerfed so hard that I switched to other characters and didn’t have as much fun with them. I LOVED Batman’s move set

The biggest thing for me Smash special descriptions: B in this direction = this move does this simple attack. Have fun! Multiversus: ok so this move *cue ridiculously long essay like description*

I think the biggest problem it faced was trying to reinvent the wheel. They took the successful platform fighter formula and then just… *changed things* for seemingly no reason, with little understanding of how it changed the feel of the game. Removing blocks and grabs? Turns the game into spam central. Taking out ledges? Now it’s either too easy or too hard to guard the stage/recover. Making the game super floaty and adding air turnarounds? Removes commitment and fluidity from the air. Taking out dashes? Makes grounded movement super noncommittal and painfully slow. Making knockback curves nonlinear, inconsistent, and floaty? Nothing has weight and every hit feels just a little bit *off*. Rivals of Aether proved you could change elements of the “smash formula” and still have a good, solid game, but the lesson unlearned by devs like those who made MV or Nick All Stars Brawl is that when doing so, you need to be *really REALLY careful* to rebalance your formula around those changes.

Everyone needs to give 'Rivals of Aether' a try. I swear you will not be disappointed and RoA 2 is coming next year

I played Velma a lot. The cop ability always felt so weird with the rest of her kit and felt like it was random if the cops would take em off the map or not.

I still have hope for Multiversus. When the full release comes out, I think it'll be in a good place again. DEFINITELY not what it was on launch, they fumbled and many people won't come back to it. They didn't address enough problems in a decent timeframe. We waited too long for ranked, hitbox changes, etc etc. When we get MV back later down the line, it'll just come down to how it turns out. Multiversus has a place in my heart for the short time I played it, I believe it still has potential; again it's completely up in the air how it turns out

The problem with focusing on doubles is that it rarely worked with randoms online, so you often got unbalanced matches. 1 vs 1 were fine, but I always felt that the game was not balanced around that.

I don't play Multiversus, so when I read it was "shutting down the beta", I was confused, since people were already paying money for it.

One thing I never can understand is why people say that Multiversus lacks in content when it comes to characters. Back during season one which was when the player base was still healthy for a fighting game, there were five characters in season one in the first month and two in the last two months of the season. Pretty much every fighting game gets one character every three or four months, and games with the same model release one character per season. What were people expecting a new character every week?

Thanks for the vid

The only reason I stopped playing is because my friends stopped tbh, and that's mostly due to server issues. For me though? I love the digital input as opposed to Smash's analog. If they pull their resources together to fix the floaty movement, the wacky hitboxes and the offline modes (recquiring 4 people to play offline is the dumbest shit on planet earth), it's still in the game, I think. Maybe if they lay off the live service aspect and just make a purchasable package along with the ftp version, it might help. Live service games are going the way of the dinosaur and for good reason

Honestly the game should've been a limited time open beta. So many people got into the game expecting and demanding for changes ignoring the fact the games not finished yet. While making those patches were slow by the devs, communicating that these changes will be made in the next release of the open beta would be easier for everyone as it would give time for player to anticipate for the next release and devs time to polish the game

Why the hell is Daffy Duck not in the game yet? That’s a serious question that needs answers.

It's difficult to articulate, but the attitude that's decided for the game is a quiet factor in longevity. Whereas Smash Bros. is a celebration of video games big and small with reverence for all its references and cameos, Multiversus was a mirror of current pop culture and memes, with jokes and trends deciding much of the roster and an imbalance of nostalgia leaving it feeling skewed. You chuckle at a meme you see on reddit, but you probably don't come back to it month after month for years to come

Some of the biggest fighting games right now like skullgirls and guilty gear xrd average 200-300 players daily, multiversus still has double the players. A fighting game having a player count above a hundred is thriving. Fighting games aren't mainstream and arent supposed to be. The issue is that developers don't realize this and constantly tries to make fighting games something its not with unreasonable expectations. Treating fighting games like fortnite or valorant and monetizing it with the expectation that millions of people will play it was the reason it failed.

I still think MultiVersus went to open beta _way_ too soon. It should've stayed on the closed alpha for at least 6 more months. It was too plagued with janky hitboxes, balancing issues and way too many glitches. Like you said, it doesn't help that Warner Bros. still pushed the competitive scene, battlepasses and other microtransactions in the meantime, which made the public perceive the game was pretty much complete already (despite them constantly advertise that it was still on open beta). All that, combined with the lack of new content on Season 2 and they making grinding even slower quickly caused the hype to die. I love Tony and PFG, they're really talented, transparent, communicative and have love for the craft and the source material, but it's clear they were given more than they can chew. It still baffles me that Warner Bros. didn't increase the budget and/or expanded the dev team, because despite their talent they didn't have enough manpower to pump content at regular basis, on top of them being unfamiliar with fighting games (as most of the PFG are former Riot employees). I'm really hoping the definitive release in early 2024 brings enough new stuff and proper optimization to reignite the hype, because I really believe that MultiVersus has a lot of potential; more than any other platform fighter that came after Smash Bros.

Feels like any platform fighter that isn't smash or brawlhalla can't build a consistently high playerbase

One of the big theories I've seen floating around this game is that the Wb/Discovery deal really hurt its support. Discovery came in swinging with the cuts right around the time MV support fell off, it just seems like a perfect storm that probably resulted in budget cuts to both Competitive and development support.

Oh let me tell ya, because I've been saying it since release: 1) the online was awful. You could literally lag to death. 2) the characters were way too floaty. Having 3 jumps and an up B was just too much. Every character was basically jigglypuff. 3) the dodge roll was WAY too powerful. You could stop yourself from dying by just rolling out of it. And I mean you get hit with a death smash and your flying to your death THEN you dodge roll out and save yourself. It was too broken and also inconsistent. 4) all the characters movements where somehow both unoriginal and too complicated. Things like hit boxes just didn't make any sense

My favorite memory with this game is the fact that I beat someone as Finn in July of 2022, and he’s been messaging me every week since calling me bad. I haven’t responded a single time. He last messaged me 3 days ago

I remember playing the open beta shortly after it went live with a few friends and it was pretty fun, but man did the slow progression and netcode kill my enjoyment. This game really needed more development time, especially if they were already monetizing it right out the gate. Hopefully the full launch will improve everything. At the very least I’d want to see White/Black Spy from Mad’s Spy vs Spy added as a playable character. That would hook me back in honestly lol

I had quite a bit of issues with this game as a Smash fan, so here's a couple that you didn't mention in the video. 1. The game felt really floaty. Game feel is really important as many of us may already know, and this game just failed when it came to that. Characters would feel really unresponsive and would linger far too long in the air with little control on their descent speed. 2. Cooldowns. Some characters have cooldowns where others don't, and it feels like you're at such a disadvantage when your special ability is on CD and your opponent has no CDs. You're far too heavily punished for missing them and they don't come up often enough to warrant learning how to play around them or using them more. Having 1/4th of your kit disabled for 7 seconds feels AWFUL 3. Lack of kill pressure. It isn't uncommon for stocks to go up to 140 damage and characters surviving really solid hits and returning back to stage, recovery's waaay too strong. Unless you knock your oponent into the blast zone, it's very easy for them to make their way back up on stage. This is cause by the previous issue of floatiness (floatyness?) 4. Lack of balance. Now there's two parts to this, the lack of character balance and the lack of balance between duo and solo play. Character would be incredibly overpowered one patch, and absolutely gutted the next, it was all over the place. It was also very clear that they were focused on doubles, which is why I imagine a lot of these design decisions like low kill pressure, and floaty gameplay were made so that the doubles mode could be properly supported. The issues with that come when playing 1v1 where the game just feels really bad to play for someone who enjoys the 1v1 aspect of fighting games which is one of the genre's main appeal. Great video as always!

I am hopeful for this game's return, I genuinely forgot this was still in beta. I think if they bring it back with a bit more of a 1v1 mindset and better matchmaking for new players.(maybe a bonus for playing with no perks, while allowing people with perks to turn them off if their opponent has them off) I really liked how Harley played. A really cool trap character is always fun for me.

I wish I got $1000 every time someone said a new game will beat Smash Bros and fails

As a casual player, I found that the camera / character colours made the game hard to follow The camera is pretty far back and on many stages the background was as saturated as the characters. I'm def noob but all this meant the character movements were hard for me to follow. In Smash the moves just feel that much crispier. Like the attack silhouettes are very clear. It'd be as simple as increasing the amount of shadow on the characters in MVS I'll remain hopeful and see if they do indeed relaunch in 2024.

For a few months last year I played MultiVersus literally every day. I ground through the season pass, tried my hand at a tournament (got trashed) and playing Garnet got me to finally finish watching Steven Universe. I'd played a little Smash before, but it was this game that got me to take platform fighters seriously. Then I discovered my local Smash scene around the same time that the flow of characters and updates stopped. I tried to keep going with MVS out of a sense of loyalty, but the new battle pass at the time needed so much grinding I lost motivation. I decided to focus on getting better at Smash, which I think is a game with far more depth and polish. Now I'm here, learning about the state of the game second hand through this video. I'm sad that MVS has declined so much, but I'm actually glad to hear that they're taking a hiatus. If they do it right it might just reinvigorate the player base. The game means something to me, so I do hope it manages to make a comeback.

Hope the downtime is genuine and the game comes back better. I didn't mind spending on the founder's edition and got a lot of value and then some. The premium battle pass was pretty lackluster in season 2,the latter Twitch integrations did not work, and the holiday event skins were dull (IMO). This was also the time all the BPs I had felt like a grind.

I mean it was an open beta. If Warner Bros. stick with the game and keep improving it, I can totally see it resurfacing.

Crazy thst a open beta won at the game awards

Multiversus was really fun when it first released, I played it with my friends and a good bit online. The server/net code issues and lack of support and content is what made me put it up on the shelf. Hopefully they do fix these issues because the game really did have huge potential

Booting this game up and listening to the whimsical menu music while knowing Gandalf is joining soon (lol) really was magical.The eye of sauron lurking in the background of Trophys Edge was also having me really hype. But now, I hope this game never comes back.

What killed this game for me were the servers, every single match felt like I was playing at 300 ping, it really really sucked... If you want a good platform fighter just play brawlhalla, that game is great with good mechanics, it feels incredible to play and the devs are great people who are in touch with the community

the moment they changed Velma's finisher bcuz outrage mob on twitter that's when i knew this game was done for.

My main issues were people in my match having terrible connection and causing my game to actually crash completely. But after a while it wasnt happening much. But my other main issue was coins. They were WAY too hard to get. Even if you win the match you got like 150-200 if i remember correctly. The cheapest character was like 2000 coins. So basically the game was way too grindy and just got boring because of the consistent grind. Hopefully they make coins easier to get/increase the amount in the full release.

Third time's the charm it looks like, and if the rumors of Disney Domination are true, then there will be a lot of lessons for their development team to learn from.

Getting professional e-sport players doesn't make your game successful. They win tournaments and get paid then return to whatever is their main game. Like the video says, you have to make a strong game, this video did not talk that much about it, but the game didn't really have strong single player modes.

Also it was region locked in a lot of country

Yooo caught this just in time

It would be a superhit if they have added Assy McGee

Head's up Nick all stars brawl 2 confirmed and trailer drop... It definitely didn't fizzle out

I was extremely hyped by the premise of the game and the love the devs poured into every character, but soon found I couldn't even play it because of regionlock. The devs promised back then they were working on it, but it's still not available for the folks in asia. Also, likely just a generation problem but most of the new characters didn't excite me at all. I was into R&M at the time, but even their releases barely lit any hype for me

Akshon, it's been quite a bit of time since you did a Brawlhalla video, the game has grown so incredibly large since it was last covered, I mean 1 million dollar prize pools every year, multiple open LAN tournaments, online tournaments, pro invitationals, etc. Plus its player base is still growing on every platform.

I feel like the post-launch characters failed to add hype. All of them (aside from Marvin) were just added because they were in upcoming media that WB was releasing and there was a lack of variety, they added two Gremlins characters and two R&M characters. When you can only add so many characters at a time, doubling up on franchises is a bad idea especially when there are so many franchises people wanted in Multiversus but were shafted.

It's mistake was being a live service

Proof that being free to play with a strong ip isn't even enough I the fgc.

Feels like there is no grand plan other than a boardroom noting they had a huge intake if players (and money) at launch, so they've determined the best course of action is to launch the game again.

every time a game release nowadays people get hyped for it and play it for a few months and everyone slowly crawls back to the big games being played right now, i.e apex val ow2 and whatever the big games are for the respective genre of the game being released

I’ll never forgive y’all for letting this win over KOFXV at the game awards for best fighting game

Me and may friends played this game. The quality quickly led us to believe the game was gonna die quickly , since lag was a huge issue in fights

Put about 130 hours into the game. Bunch of friends had a lot of fun with it. On principal I don't play games that have massive amounts of FOMO. The battlepass in Multiversus is one of those things. I was going to overlook it before because I played Super Animal Royale, which it's battle passes never disappear, and you can get it whenever you want. So I never felt like I had to keep playing. Not a fan of dailies/weeklies in either game though, but it feels easier for people to not feel like they need to sacrifice IRL stuff to play the game. Them later saying "People are maxing out too fast, we're doubling the time to takes to get to level 15" really pissed me off as well. I was trying to get every character to level 15 after all. Respect the player's time! There's a reason why I don't play games that feel like they need to put a leash on you to keep you playing them. Makes the game feel insecure about how good it is, and that there's more greedy intentions. Other thing is balancing the game off of capsule hitboxes, then deciding to go to accurate hitboxes later, but still balancing based off capsule hitboxes. That's such a massive change in core gameplay, that it blew my mind. Brawlhalla capsule hitboxes work because it was designed around everyone being the same size, essentially being re-skins of each other, and everyone taking up the same space. Smash has characters of very different proportions and sizes, but Sakurai and his team knew early on that you have to make it so it fits the character's visual location. Some characters move their bodies a lot in their attacks, and that makes a huge difference. Like Wonder Woman charging up a grounded attack and leaning back and downwards before a strike, but the hurtbox not matching up sinks. Iron Giant was a huge problem, but with the capsule hurtbox method, his aerial move where he spins his legs around was a gigantic disjoint, but then they made it so his legs always can be hit, so one of his safest options to attack people was removed (and a lot of his other moves were similar to that. That's just such a massive buff/nerf to the entire cast that you're basically changing the core gameplay of every character. It shocked me so hard that they made such a huge change and made me question if they knew what they were doing. I didn't notice it earlier because I didn't really want to believe it, and figured I was being bad and that the internet was bad. After all, there have been times when fighting some players where I'll stand in the middle of the stage, and teleport off-stage. Usually not that bad, but a shocker that it happens at all, and there were smaller more frequent teleports in most matches. Out of all the fighting games I played when I took a break from smash, this was the only one that had a worse online than smash, and multiversus is supposed to be better because it has rollback! The main thing deterring me from playing smash is it's horrendous online, and if you can't do better than it on that, then you're doing something very wrong. I'm sure there's other things, but that's just off the top of my head. Also there weren't any characters that have spoken to me just yet. I wasn't really ever close with any of the warner characters so far (Iron Giant and Steven would be the closest ones to that), so it was mainly gameplay I had to go off of. Arya Stark and Batman feel great, but I prefer them for 1v1, but this game is designed around 2v2s, and it really suffers in the 1v1 department if you are not using most characters, mainly ones that aren't assassins. Which is fine in 2v2 setting since that can just be their role, but 1v1 makes it rougher for the other characters to shine. Reindog was fun, but felt a smidge too basic. Iron Giant I love because it lets my allies do whatever they want. However, when you fight people that know what they are doing, it feels hard to get any sort of move off, especially after the hurt box change. Steven Universe was a surprise and I started to have a blast with him after someone suggested him, but he's not an easy character to pick up. I didn't have enough time with him Gizmo is one character that seemed to be unanimously loved when he first game out. Strikes the balance between simple but with things to improve on, and support but being able to handle themself. I feel like if they had a few more characters that strike all the right spots like Gizmo does, they'd do well. I haven't played since Rick, Stripe, Black Adam, or Marvin have come out so I can't say anything about them. However they are all characters I don't really care about (fun shows though!) All that said, they are revamping the game supposedly, so there is a chance I could get back into Multiversus again. However, if they mess things up again, I'll probably never look at them again. I got plenty of other games. Also, Chess and Smash are my go-tos. Chess because literally everyone knows that game even if they aren't a gamer. Smash because it was the game that made me decide to hunker down to play a singular competitive video game, but it's not perfect, and I was wondering if Multiversus could overthrow it.

I played it once and it felt horrible to me from a gamefeel/control physics perspective, so I ended up never playing it again lol

The game is fundamentally just too zany. You have all these movement options and no blocking so it's just zipping around and around until you clip someone or get clipped

My main problem with Multiversus was the gameplay. It was really floaty, too floaty.

Max Dood on the matter is interesting. Basically the game was made by a small team, launched the Beta, overwhelming response by public, WB made the team to make the game working online. So now the small team had to make sure the game is running and they can't make new content.

Before Multiversus I hated playing fighting games because everything was so overwhelming compared to a shooter e.g. But the TERRIBLE netcode made me quit the game. I have SO MANY clips on my pc of me getting hit whitout being anywhere the the enemy. So if they fix that and make a battle pass where to are able to earn enough coins for a new one, I personally think that the game could get REALLY big.

Honestly the main thing that really made me drop the game is the lag it is so unplayable for me as middle east player who play in eu because we don't have server.

the thing that drove me away was actually the fact that aerials didn't stop when you hit the ground. it's an aspect of pretty much all platform fighters that just felt right and one that i wish they hadn't changed.

I remember when everyone was saying it'd be the "brawlhalla killer" Lmao.

I think thay had way too much confidence thinking the competitive players were the majority of players instead of the casual players that just want more characters and modes to play with their friends

So mad that this game didn't succeed. I was completely ballistic at this game. My peak rank was 2,036 in 1v1s. Game could've done wonders but released ranked far too late.

We're also to blame here especially the nerfs to balanced characters because we can't seem to figure out how to beat them (characters like batman wonder woman shaggy Taz gizmo stripe Steven universe lebron James Finn and jake) and buff the more overpowered cheesy characters (like black Adam Harley Quinn Rick Morty Harley Quinn iron giant and the worst offender superman)

I forgot this existed, all I remember is the game was region locked and only available in the epic game store on launch. Last I checked on steam mind you, it was still region locked and I think right now it still isn't available in SEA

"Some people could not even connect if they were playing on wifi" Sounds like a BLESSING

I stopped because of the battle passes and weird perk system that felt like it didn’t really fit. I want to just hop in and play with my favorite characters and not have to make a meta setup to have fun

This was my favorite game. People complained about it being floaty but I actually really liked it. The dashing mechanics made it so that you could move fast despite the game being floaty, and the floaty-ness made connecting combos way easier and more satisfying. I could see where my opponent was going and dash to meet them and continue the combo. It had very good controller support so i was able to connect my switch gamecube controller to my pc and just play with that. The glitches sucked but they were slowly improving the game and new characters were being released very quickly, once every 2 weeks or so. The meta was always changing and that added an element of experimentation for me that was really fun. I honestly enjoyed this game more than smash. I'm sad that they stopped supporting it. I miss playing batman and connecting down tilt into up tilt into up special

Once you make a video about “why it failed “ or “where did it go wrong”…. It’s usually too late. At that point , it’s considered an underdog and almost no one is gonna wanna waste anything on it, until they’re very bored and it’s just there