i think the real reason these people don’t want to feel bad for her is because if they do then they have to acknowledge how much they bullied her and that they also played a big part in upholding this oh so bad beauty standard they all of a sudden don't like
I think that you're giving these people too much credit and humanity. I don't think most care at all. They do not have empathy or sympathy for her situation. These people would root for her downfall when trolling her.
Or maybe it’s laughable since she’s entitled, white and rich and is a known bully who for years was on the internet bullying Blac Chyna. Selena Gomez, Megan Thee Stallion etc.. so bye nobody feel sorry for her when her brand for years consisted of her bullying other women and being known as a mean girl so it’s weird when someone is now looking terrible in the face and crying for sympathy and think everyone’s supposed to cry with them.
She was a teenager in a bad situation. Social Media was mean to her. Her mother encouraged cosmetic surgery. Tyga told her that if she tries to look black she would get more popular. She was so young and had such bad role models
100%. The Kardashians did not ask to be the beauty standard society put them there. Nobody had to follow the KJ lip challenge or get bbl’s to look like Kim but they did. Kylie was bullied by grown adults as a child about her appearance when she was just a teenager and then people wondered why she changed her appearance and didn’t want to be completely upfront about it. This all stems from jealousy that people don’t have the ability to change what they don’t like about themselves in the same way wealthy people can. It’s insane
I feel badly for her because I think people forget that her family was her normal. Seeing them do all of those things to their faces and bodies was the norm. If she had a family that embraced their flaws and told her how she was beautiful naturally I doubt she’d feel the need to do that.
for real like I can’t even really blame her it’s just everyone in that damn family. They just be exploiting their kids and exposing them all this shit. I mean hell Kim‘ n Kanye daughter only like 10 or 11 n she acting a fool n it’s like Kim don’t even care
kylie is a victim herself i mean look at who her family is. she’s literally the baby of the family where do you think she got these insecurities from. not just from the public who is also responsible for her getting bullied and getting surgery but from her sisters too especially kimberly . i’m far from a kardashian/ jenner fan and i get people don’t want to feel bad for her because she’s rich and she played a part in these unrealistic beauty standards but to be honest i totally feel for her 🤷🏾♀️
same. if i was her at 16 getting made fun of for my looks, had a family like hers, i would be getting injections/surgery as well. people are acting like social media played no role
@@lunarblake yes. and they act like beauty standards haven’t existed before the kardashians. or that “normal” people weren’t getting work done before them
@@lunarblakeexactly cause Troyce even said, “she’ll be okay once she buys another house” like what? Since when did her money have to do with her happiness, so ignorant
The K's definitely did a lot of bad in terms of influencing the youth w/ this fake aesthetic BUT I do feel for Kylie. She was a kid and people were attacking her badly. People are disgusting. We need to be more compassionate.
He's a talking lava cake. 😂I don't vibe with guys like that. Constant negativity and bitterness while having nothing going on for themselves. Imagine being friends with someone like that.
I agree with Dee, why would you look at the hurtful comments? I honestly think it’s just insecurity, these celebrities really are insecure and need/look for validation from everyone.
I agree but also you have to think about it maybe it just not the comments people make post, videos, blogs, headlines, TikTok’s about her it not just her going in her ig comments to see it kinda impossible for her not to see it
I don't think it's realistic to think that you could avoid this kind of commentary at her level of fame. It's definitely not as simple as turning off the comments.
She did not create these beauty standards. It was these beauty, standards, and everyone online bullying the hell out of her that made her get those surgeries and now she’s trashed by everyone still.
When you look at old Hollywood, those women were naturally STUNNING! The beauty was unmatched and those still alive look younger than a lot of 25 year olds today.
And yeah I get it she was bullied for her looks as a child, but she should have let her facial features grow in before she had surgery at such a young age and her parents are to blame for that because why would they let her damage herself like that. Now her face is facing the consequences of whatever plastic surgery she done to her face.
I don’t think you understand the severity of the bullying, literal news publications, people online and to her face were trashing her appearance since she was a 9-10 year old child until now at nearly 27. If nobody talked about her appearance, Kris included, I don’t think she would have felt pressured to change as much as she did.
I think it’s the environment celebrities are raised in , they are taught to care a lil too much abt insults on line , while most of us were raised with so many issues , stuff like that just sounds stupid especially when you got money , like ok I’m ugly but where’s your hell cat though?
For anyone confused about why she still continues to read comments that are so negative, this is what insecure people do. It’s the equivalent to people who feel bad about their weight, for example, so they scroll through IG pictures of thin people and compare themselves to them. Instead of just putting the phone down. It’s psychological self h@rm that they’re doing. And people do get addicted to physical SH. Thats why people like her are addicted to harming themselves mentally instead of doing things to help prevent themselves from further damage.
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I get what people is saying, but Troyce really is heartless & lacks empathy. Just about every video he’s saying he doesn’t feel bad for a person, even with TikTok users losing their job. 😂
The purpose of botox is to stop you from using your muscles so that the skin can heal those lines that are caused by you making facial expressions. The problem is that botox never fully goes away, so if you keep doing it, after some time, your face will become stiff permanently.
I think any little girl who is constantly told she is ugly by grown adults and her peers will have low self esteem. Now put that on a global scale. Severe body dysmorphia. It’s no surprise she went through all of this. Shame on her parents and the people who bullied her. The reason no one feels bad is bc they’ll have to admit the world destroyed a child and now she is a broken adult.
People bullying her are the very same people that felt insecure because of her. It’s a pattern with insecure people. They tend to try to make those who made them feel less than insecure.
Dee I see your point, but when I worked in daycare, a little kid called my co teacher big & fat & she actually cried because she was insecure about being a big girl, so yes there are some people who would take what a child says to heart.
No, he’s not. He’s just honest. He also has videos where he gives amazing advice concerning fake friends and financial problems. Tbqh he’s one of the few RU-vid channels that I like that Dee reacts to. I don’t like Jamari, Aba and Preach, or Empressive 🤷🏽♀️
Listen, listen. I have the perfect response as to why this is happening to her but first, who here loves Dominos famous garlic dipping sauce? That stuff is gooooood man.
Cardi really didn’t get as much surgery as yall say , yall take different pictures of her with different make up and hairstyles and say she got a new face everyday like pleas be for real , she cut her eye brows and had a nose job , if she let her eye brows grow she looks the same just fatter
here we go with this ur a fan so of course ur in denial, cardi has had alot of surgery she even said herself she has had alot and you can just look at cardi and see that she has had alot of surgery and dont bring up other folks like nicki or kim, all them fem rappers had surgery so..
@@legitjustice she said herself that she had a lot of work done on her body she only said she got her nose done and filler and then she removed the filler . Lmao
I don’t think Kylie can not pay attention to it because she’s built a large part of her personal brand on her looks. Obvi she doesn’t need to see it all day but she has to be aware of how the public views her and her beauty because it’s what pays her. However you have to be able to take a break from Social media and constantly worrying about how she looks. Hope she doesn’t develop body dysmorphia.
She can literally pay people to read her comments for her and even create power point spreadsheets to reflect what people are interested in seeing for business purposes 😂 there's no excuse. Celebrities read comments about themselves because they seek validation and want to know if people like them or not
People’s opinions on this have been so immature and lack nuance. Kardashians didnt create any standards, they’re victims of beauty just as anyone else, even more so. Everything they’ve done has already been an established beauty standard, they’re just rich and bold enough to go after it. Troyce says things to be controversial but he comes off ignorant to people who have a varied understanding of capitalism, patriarchy, and history.
But they were all victims of their mother getting the bag by any means. Pimping the daughters out to billionaires on yatches while they were teens. Body modding them along the way to fit the aesthetic. The only men with enough power to affect these nepo-daughters' appearance are owners of conglomerates and yatches.
Agreed, the Kardashians grew up during the worst era of beauty standards and their (original) natural appearances have been disparaged by society (media, peers, and parents) long before plastic surgery became more accessible. They’re famous due to their beauty, somewhat entertaining personalities, and excellent marketing yet because everyone is so fixated on their appearances and “lack of talent,” they’ve begun to attach their self-worth and income around visual beauty and vanity. They’re told their only valuable if they’re pretty, their appearances are being criticized by millions of people everyday, they feel pressured to change or “improve” their appearance through plastic surgery/impossible diets/unhealthy gym workouts, and then get comments about how “they never should have changed,” “they were more beautiful before,” or “Kim’s too obsessed about looking older” as if the world hasn’t been nitpicking their appearances over the last 20 years. This topic, the Kanye situation, and Taylor Swift bs are the few things I’ll ever defend the KarJenners for.
She looked great at the met gala tho so i wonder what else she got done to reverse whatever was making her look so old before (im assuming it was all that filler). She looked snatched.
I feel bad for her and I don't feel bad for her. She's a victim and a perpetuator at the same time. Society is contradicting as a whole because society wants natural beauty and self love to be at the forefront, yet keeps letting the beauty standards change all the time and follow that beauty standard. It's nonsensical at this point!
Everyone acting like the people are the ones to blame when it’s really her parents and her family as a whole,seems like some of yall are mad that people don’t feel for her when they don’t have to. & I don’t say that lightly cuz society needs to have a deep reflection on beauty standards. I somewhat feel bad I somewhat don’t hopefully she’ll use her resources to seek help and do some inner healing,cuz she did have this done when she was still a kid.
Girl Kylie is not special celebrity or not people get their looks made fun of all the time 😐 it's up to you to read the negative comments. If it's that serious get someone to monitor your social media account.
She was still young and impressionable so obviously those comments got to her and she now realizes as she’s a mother herself that these comments can affect how stormy could view herself later on.
I’m sorry but there weren’t tabloids in your local grocery store calling you the ugly “stepsister” as a kid and thousands of blog, posts, and tweets of grown adults being hypercritical about your appearance either.
@@parkerisles7256 girl I'm not saying Kylie's feelings aren't validated I'm just saying it happens every day to people she's a grown ass woman therefore she should stop looking at negative comments and get someone to monitor her socials if it's that's serious.
@@xzyriamyers-ux1ve But that’s the thing, the scale of bullying is much larger than the average person’s. It’s incomparable which is why I hate people acting like Kylie’s situation is easy to get over. I just genuinely dislike any unsolicited, unnecessary negative comments about a person’s appearance which has become the norm, especially online. These weirdos need to learn that not everyone cares for nor needs to listen to their “opinions.”
The main reason people don't feel sorry for her is mainly due to jealously. It's always "She has money, she'll be fine," or "She shouldn't have been desperate to become famous," or "She upholds this unrealistic beauty standard so she'll have to deal with it." People just don't want to face the fact that they bullied her and caused her to be insecure, so they just use anyone of the excuses upbove to defend/deflect from themselves. Also Dee, you need to understand that being this famous, comments, rumours, etc, will just follow you. For example, you may want to see a picture of yourself from an event. You check the comments for maybe constructive feedback on the picture but in the comments people are just bullying/trolling you. So it's not something you can just not see. I highly doubt they'll go looking for these negative comments. Also, believe most people who are trolling on Beyoncé, Kylie Jenner, Nicki Minaj, are not children.
You chose to look in the comments section. You're in full control over avoiding that situation. Why would you want to see constructive criticism on a cute pic? Lol
@@DonnyDon90 True, but for example if you look at Megan Thee Stallion when she changed her album cover because her fans didn't like it. That's what I mean, I was typing fast so that was the first example that came to me.
@@SharmarDimitrescu The situation doesn't change it much, because looking for opinions and criticism in the comments, is totally in your power. That's all I'm saying. If you're actively looking for critique, you have to be prepared for those types of comments when you do. I post content that sometimes needs opinions of the public and I've had to learn that people are just gonna be people no matter what.
Yeah that still doesn't make sense, Megan's TEAM can look at the feedback and make adjustments. You think Megan created her own album cover? Lol there's no reason for these rich celebrities with entire teams to look at their comments. These celebs look at comments because they're curious what people think of them and they want acceptance. Period. That's a decision they make then get their feelings hurt when people are rude
There is no excuse. If you're looking at comments about yourself, knowing you're bound to see something negative, that's on you. These celebrities can pay people to research public feedback and present it to them on a power point presentation without the hate lol she's literally a billionaire, she has the means to avoid toxicity online completely
And what’s worse is the same thing they did as far as comparing the sisters, they’re now doing to the little ones (Chi, Dream, True, Stormi, etc). I hope they got them girls in counseling now.
the reason why people make it a point to say they don’t feel bad for her is because of jealousy 💀💀 “sHe’Ll bE oKaY cAuSe sHe hAS mOnEy” or blaming her for creating beauty standards is so ridiculous,, just blatant jealousy.
I personally disagree, you can win as a parent if you affirm what they were born as from the very beginning. Setting principles and values that will make them into an upstanding citizen but much more a better version of yourself. And if after all that they’re grown enough to make such a life changing decision you don’t have to support them but let them know that they’re always going to have a mother or a father to go back to and that they’re always welcome in your home. What’s more important is your children having a community to go back to and that community wanting the best for them and not doing things for the sake of their children’s desires or the notions being imposed be media whether it’s transitioning or any form of life changing surgeries and injections.
A South American plastic surgeons website bragged the largest phalloplasty he did was 11 in, against recommendation, then was revised to 7 in. They recommended not going over 5-6 in and being normal sized.
Regarding the regretting transitioning thing. For all the situations where that happens, there's also the other side where people DON'T regret it, but those voices don't get amplified as much because people love to focus on the former to push the agenda that transitioning is wrong. Also the reason some trans men get phalloplasty is not for the size of a penis, but to help soothe the body dysmorphia of having lower genitals they don't feel are right for their body. It also isn't something "a lot" of trans men get just because of the expense and risks associated with it.
Was gonna say this! The statistics is that most people with body dysmorphia don’t regret transitioning.. something in the 80-90%. Anecdotal evidence is valid in some cases but not this one. There’s so much counseling that goes into all these things. I just think of all the kids that didn’t make it to their older years from suicide and homicide
Someone asked me how I got my lips to look like that too, and I was so thrown back about that question because it's natural. Incoming Rant: Yes, to a certain degree, it's the parent's fault for allowing it when she was young. But celebrity aside, there are some young kids out there, whose parents tell them that there are beautiful/handsome on a regular; then they'll go to school and have 1 kid call them ugly, and it's the end of the world. If some of those kids had the funds for it, I have a feeling that they'd go behind their parents back and "work" on it. The doctors that are performing these surgeries should be held accountable for their unethical practices. How the fuck did a 16 year get a butt injection. Fine/jail those doctors.
yall can’t convince me that kylie is ugly. Like yall have to be be trolling like all those photos did not look bad at all. and to think that kylie at 16 isn’t gonna be insecure if a thousand people come for her is crazy work. and him calling her mid at 16 is wild. and he the same type of people that made her get it in the first place
oop! FIRST! - i'm with Dee, it's wild that the same folks that aspire for the attention is actually feeling some kind of way when it's negative!. You're still in a billionaire dollar tax bracket while some folks whom are keyboard thugs are living on pallettes. even a hater is a fan! a confused one and that's on them. It could also be true that it's performance on the show with the ugh they're hating, i'm gonna cry...blah blah blah.
2:40 I'm sorry, but this is just not true. Maybe it was in the past but Nowadays these people are of all ages. Like do many trolls and haters be grown ass adults in they 20s and even 30s, just as common as the teenagers and kids who do/say shit.
its hard to feel bad for these celebrities whose entire image and product is about looks, if that's your product then that's what's gonna be critiqued by the public. but kylie is likely a victim of the same terrible beauty standards she has perpetuated. i can't imagine there was much emphasis in her upbringing on learning to love yourself as you are and appreciating what you were born with. this the kinda shit your parents are supposed to teach you instead of placing all your self worth on how you look
The crazy thing is...people bullied her so much then when she got surgery and started doing lip kits everybody loved it like it wasnt a problem...now all of a sudden people dont know why she felt inclined to change her looks? It's crazy. They wouldve continued to call her the uglier sister even if she had waited. I think she's reflecting and regretting which shows growth and realizing the shit might have not been worth it And then people downplaying her feelings because she's rich? People are out of touch with being a human
As a trans person I would nevaaa get bottom surgery I’m mtf and I kinda find it weird why people blame transness and don’t look at the parents because regardless of what people say about you for it that’s you’re child and allowing them to get any kind of cosmetic surgery is wrong now letting the do hormone blockers and socially transition is fine because it’s not permanent and to a certain extent hormone therapy can be reversed but surgery??? 😭
Kylie is the youngest of the family and was 5 years old when her older sister leaked her own s*x tape, and 10 years old when the reality surrounding her family started so you can say she is somewhat a "victim". Was influenced by her family and started doing surgery by the age of 17, so her mom allowed her to do all of this earlier. Also its funny how everytime people compare pics of her when she was younger, it's mostly not flattering pics. I just wished she would've started it much later, she was still a teenager and was not done evolving etc...
People act like they would never care but they care about the few people at their job talking about them but for some reason they can't fathom why having the whole world call you ugly and say your face is fucked up is discouraging and depressing. Money doesn't fix self esteem.
She got big by exploiting an destroying beauty standards for girls an woman. Now she's upset she can't keep the standards she created? 🙄 She shouldn't have wanted to be a celebrity. Tons of kids stay away from that life an she WANTED it.
@@romansbottomsounds like she is her own problem. How them lip fillers helping you? I'm sure she promoted them to you. I'm not gonna cry because she found out the consequences of her own actions.
@@crowing3886 she has her own insecurities thats shes getting bullied for. You arent in the light of millions of ppl so you wouldnt understand how it feels to get judged for literally everything you do
@@romansbottom again...that is her problem because of her choices. The internet was around before her and will be after her. What I'm not gonna due is excuse her EXPLOITING AND PROFITING off of kids an woman's insecurities to make billions. You know how many kids git botched surgeries trying to look like her? I guess they don't matter, only the billionaire who can't stay off Twitter comments 🤦🏿 These people do not care about you yet yall defend them.
THANK YOU!! Like am I crazy!???? She MADE HERSELF LIKE THIS!!! She ate it up!!! She SOLD PRODUCTS to millions of young girls to profit off this SAME INSECURITY SHE CRYING ABOUT. HOW can we feel bad for her??? People have been telling them for YEARS to change and they refuse!!! The money is too good. Okay then!!! Enjoy the money!! Don't complain when you've become the SAME MONSTER you hated!!
People act like you can transition at like 13. You can take blockers etc. but typically not surgery until you’re 18. And there is a very long process to get to the surgery stage
And it’s very rare and not recommended to get surgery until 18 ^^^ people act like it’s just happening at crazy rates and the percentage of ppl who regret it is extremely low however I still feel for them
As a mother, you can't win. So you don't try to win. You try to support your kids emotionally. There's no way in hell that I would've allowed my kids to get a major surgery like this. You're brain doesn't stop growing until about age 27. You cannot make this kind of decision foe yourself at such a young age. For anyone who wants to transition and I mean ANYONE, therapy should be a REQUIREMENT. Its not to change your mind. Its to address what's going on in the present so you can be prepared for the future. And that's what's missing imo. The emotional part of making such a huge change. I feel for this child because their parents should NEVER have allowed this.
I will say I do think the thing he looks past is that she was also raised in an environment whether she perpetuated The Stereotype or not she would have always getting compared to what was perceived and what is perceived to be the prettier siblings. Because she was raised in a family that basically represented beauty standards. So no matter what she would have just went through her whole life getting this hey. Well also at the same time I definitely agree as a family they should have tried mentally and emotionally can supporting her enough for her to hopefully become more confident and be okay with it and live to move past it. But we also know that family likes being in the Forefront the family everyone knows. Does one person say the Kardashian's is like a national royal family. In the way of how we know a lot about their lives their constantly followed they are looked to set standards they treat themselves as they are the standards. If anything I think the best course that they could have gone for who is Kylie if she didn't get surgery is by making her come off as more independent person and have her carve out her own identity outside of the family and the Jenner name
Respectfully I think it's either naive or callous to think it's just about the comments. She has blogs, magazines, the tv paps... She's famous and interacting with all these different facets of media is implied whether she wants the attention or not. I don't see how she could possible avoid the critiques about her doctored appearance at this point.
I don’t feel at all. When it was making them millions upon millions there was no care in the world… now that the kardashians are falling off she wants to sit here and victimize herself.. did she step in and defend her best friend when the media dragged her name through the mud? Did she feel bad then? Did she feel bad for walking around and appropriate black culture?
Like it wasn’t bad when ppl were hyping her up, and ending up in the hospital to look like her and her siblings. But now that ppl are prioritizing natural beauty, and don’t feel bad for you creating your own insecurities you want to cry?
I actually feel bad for her cause she was getting bullied literally by the same people who are now trying to say she created the beauty standards, which is crazy, even her sisters wished that she didn’t mess with her body and said she should’ve let her grow in to her looks
It comes to the critique on doctors I don't really feel that situations like getting surgeries and all this other stuff really falls on them because most of the time what people need is fucking therapy or a counselor that's why I like I know a lot of trans people and lgbtq groups tell people to go through the process and not kind of rush it go seek therapy see if it's what you truly want. Cuz once you go to the doctor more likely than not you're probably going to make every argument on why you need it and it's not on them to say no unless a it's illegal B they literally cannot give it to you or see you will die from it all that equates to it being illegal they're not there to be your therapist your counselor or mental health advisor. Because at the end of the day it is a job that's what makes good doctors good is that they do take extra steps to do things but oftentimes like I said by the time you get to that point where you want to transition you think it's the only option. Because it's the flaw with all doctors cuz if you go to a doctor saying you feel all well you feel this you feel that they can say you're completely good but if you keep on telling them you don't feel that way they're going to have to look into it
To be fair when you’re that big of a celebrity especially with mostly negative comments headed your way I don’t she’s going out of her way to see them like it might just be nigh impossible to avoid
I hate how horrible people are being mean to Kylie. They said she was built like a box and had no lips. She was like 17 when she got her face and body done, a CHILD! So the fact that people are blaming her and her family for so called “changing the beauty standards” is crazy. People don’t want to admit that they’re insecure and they don’t have the money to fix their insecurities like these celebs. It isn’t Kylie’s fault.