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I'd disagree with a few points in this vid. One is reliability, I had a 1992 1.8 ford fiesta diesel non turbo. I got 72mpg out of that, and had a 1.3 fiesta petrol with similar power that dud more like 45mpg. Also, the diesel was more reliable with far fewer parts, ie, no electrics to go wrong, as compared with the petrol. As for pollution, my older diesel did smoke abit compared to modern diesels, however that visible smoke is not as bad as modern diesels due to newer ones producing more NOX glasses and finer particles which are what will make you sick. The older one looked worse, but didn't do as much damage to the environment because CO2 was lower than petrol ect, and what you could see was basically just soot powder. Also, the non turbo had far more torque than a turbo version. The engine would go as fast up a steep hill, as it did down the same hill because of that. Turbo tend to go faster down due to bhp more than torque effects. The torque was so strong, that the engine turned at a particular rpm regardless of incline it was going up or down, with only the amount of fuel making a difference. It was abit strange to drive actually for that reason...
I will assume that he's only giving reasons on why not to buy. There's a reason not to buy everything. I'm just assuming, and you know what they usually say about assumptions. ..
Wish I watched this video 5 years ago when I bought my 02 golf tdi. It would have saved me from having to deal with the ridiculous torque, 48mpg mixed driving and 700+ mile tanks between fillups. I also love working on cars and this POS just won't break down and I'm at 210k miles. I'm sick of it!
Yeah but it's being replaced by 3 cylinder hybrids so same pos. Fuel is way too expensive in europe there's 100% tax in it supposed to go for road maintenance but as we've seen it doesn't since viaducts are collapsing and you have to pay very high highway tolls in almost every country.
That's changing now, the VW scandal took care of that, most car producers in Europe are now dropping models with diesels and offering more gasoline engines.
its cheap here in AUS also, not as cheap as 91 but cheaper than 95 & 98 and doesnt change as frequently also, plus with all the long distance driving here (unless city commuting) it makes sense alpt.of people here use them in 4x4 and utes
In US look at the tax rates to see why it's higher. Higher diesel equals higher prices for everything as railroads and big trucks have higher fuel costs delivering goods.
yeah but no clutch and better acceleration than diesels lol V8 and automatic is best you floor and it kicks down gear much safer when overtaking and so much better in traffic and uphill, manuals are relics and will soon dissapear even in europe they now make 10 speed automatic way better fuel economy and performance.
The real reason diesel engines last so long, is that the diesel fuel is highly lubricating, unlike gas. I always add a small amount of Marvel Mystery oil to my gas.
I have a 2009 BMW 320d with 120k miles, it does 55mpg, 177hp with 0-100 in 7.7sec and doesn't cost the earth to tax. May not be the cheapest car to maintain but I love it. Never felt like that about any other car
I have a mercedes M (germany built) with 150000 miles. 6 cylinder diesel no big problems. New shock absorbers in the back i think some bounce by the 3 to trailer killed them. two things for 80 Euros together at the stirring and an ABS sensor.
You mean the less restrictive emission requirements, that will get bumped up higher causing diesel to die in Europe? I owned 2 diesel cars (bought used) in the EU, never again. Maintenance costs ate up all the savings from fuel.
your 2006 diesel doesn't meet the same standards as our 2006 diesels. EU emissions laws were about 10 years behind ours until recently with Euro 6. Euro 5 was like our 90s diesels. It seems like a lot of manufactures are also cheating Euro 6 by the weak enforcement of it also.
I have Renault clio 2002 1.5 litre Dci diesel engine, after all this years and cca 200 000 km, only timing belt was changed and two fuel injectors broke . And it is city car for me with consumption about 4,5 litre per 100 kilometers or 3,8 litre per 100 kilometers on long distances.
The new gasoline engines get to be more complex and more expensive to maintain. You might as well get a diesel. The only problem here is the draconian and unreasonable regulations that make the diesels so expensive. The "green energy" scam affects everything.
If you do a minor engine mod and go bio (veg oil) you can get free fuel from some fast food resturants, most will happily give it to you since you're helping them save money.
in my opinion it really depends on what kind of car you get. for highway cruisers where you put a lot of km on it, you should get a diesel. for city cars a gas car tends to be better. It also matters what type of car it is for example, i drive a 2017 merc e200 diesel and it suits the car really well, with about 300 lbft of torque you can alwas stay in high gears and that shows in the fuel consumption. i tend to get 55-60 mpg in a 4000 pound car, thats unachievable with gas engines
Diesels are actually much better around town, it's on the highway that they are closer but diesels will always use less. The price is much less power being unable to rev as high as petrol but it's a small price to pay for every day Joe
Pernection Not necessarily true but I understand what you're getting at... They produce more of their output as torque rather than power because of their lower revving nature, but it's quite limiting when it comes to performance. You'll see the difference in similar petrol Vs diesel cars. E.g VW Golf, the 2.0TDi is a fair bit slower than the 2.0TSi, and Audis with the 3.0TDI are a fair bit slower than the same model with the 3.0FSI. Main reason there are basically no diesel performance cars
My daughter owns a 2013 TDI golf that she bought new because I recommended after doing massive research! Besides the scandal it has been a absolute flawless vehicle that drives like a tank with unbelievable torque and efficiency and obvious well-made vehicle. I really don’t understand how you can call them junk when there’s many many VW diesel’s with hundreds of thousands of miles on them.
Quite a contrast. Here in Europe, Diesel engines are a bit more seen than Gasoline engines. Also, in my country (Portugal) and in most European countries, Diesel is cheaper than Gasoline.
I'm from Portugal (the continental part of the country). Madeira is an island in the Northern Atlantic Ocean that belongs to Portugal as well, but my family is not related to the island. Madeira means wood in English, so it is somehow easy to find some families (mostly in the Algarve region, in the South of Portugal) with this last name. ;) Let me introduce you on this RU-vid channel made by a couple of British young adults with their daughter and dog so you can get some ideas on how is life around here (from a point of view of someone who speaks your language). Although Portugal is a very small country, it has some curious contrasts and differences between religions. I live in the South and they live in the Central Portugal. hope you enjoy it: ru-vid.com
In Australia diesels are more expensive to purchase but cheaper to run (fuel and diesels are typically understressed) with diesel being a couple cents cheaper per litre.
@@Noneofyourbusiness99 incredible! I have a 2011 stick jetta wagon, didn't get the same deal but at $8,000 and 94k, I feel wonderful about how long it will last. Love it! Sunroof drain clogs are the only issue I've had so far. Getting my glow plugs replaced for free on Monday because the diesel gate warranty!
Hey Scotty, Love your content, but you lost me on this one. I live in Europe and by far the most reliable cars I ever had with great gas mileage were Diesels. I have no idea who this video is for. Nothing of this applies to Europe.
As a European, I love diesel cars. Especially the low end torque and great fuel economy for cruising at 100 MPH on the highway for hundreds of miles at a time. Only issue I had was the EGR valve clogged up cuz of all the sot that had accumulated because of a lot of low RPM cruising.
diesel is a total win if u drive long ways, if your everyday drives are short diesel is not für u. Allso if u PROPERLY maintain the engine, diesel will last für ever.
You are wrong Scotty Kilmer. The Diesel engine ignition relies on when the fuel is injected. Not when the compression exceeds 14.3:1. So the fuel injection timing is controlled by an Ecm, and is injected at the precise Crankshaft timing desired, making it an extremely precise system
Scotty explained a lot in a few minutes. So then a few corners had to be cut. At your level of details it would be longer and more complicated. Within 'the big picture' Scotty is right.
It is not uncommon for a diesel engine to have a service life of over a million miles before a rebuild. Cummins has a million mile club for ram owners.
Here in Spain, diesel is still a bit cheaper than gasoline, but I agree that last gen diesels are too complex and prone to failures due the modifications car makers had to put in place in order to stay compliant. late 90s and early 2000s were great, after mid 2000s everything went downhill.
Is not that simple! I think people in North America always dislike Diesel engines sometimes without good reasons. I agree that Diesel has its best application in trucks. But it makes sense also in small cars. I can give you a concrete example from Canada. I had a 2015 VW Jetta 2.0 TDi and a 2017 Nissan Versa Note with a 1.6 gasoline engine. I always record the amount of fuel, the price and the odometer each time I refilled both cars. Here goes the stats for the TDi: 3,198.57 CAD for 3235.1 L and drove 62,300 km so the average consumption is 5.19 L/100km and cost 5.13 CAD/100km. Here goes the stats for the gasoline engine: 1,315.55 CAD for 1197.3 L and drove 15,010 km so the average consumption is 8.13 L/100km and cost 8.92 CAD/100km. We have bought the Nissan after we returned the VW because of the Diesel gate recall so the two cars are used exactly in the same fashion, both have seen summer and winter conditions including using the same winter tires. The gasoline engine profits from Costco reduced prices for gasoline which the VW didn't because in my area Costco doesn't sell Diesel fuel. This specific Nissan gasoline engine uses (versus that specific VW Diesel engine): 57% more fuel volume but only 44% more fuel mass. In terms of energy it uses ~ 44% more energy. In terms of cost it is 74% more expensive to drive (in respect to fuel consumption). It is true that this VW engine was polluting but please note that GM has now the Chevy Cruze with slightly better gas millage than the last Jetta generation and I don't think they would dare lie and play tricks after the VW scandal. Also, yes my Jetta was ~ 5,000 CAD more expensive than the Versa Note (both at the same level of equipment) but that's not true for a much more fair comparison between a Diesel compact and a small hybrid, for example a Chevy Cruze Diesel versus a Toyota Prius. I think Diesel engines find good application in small cars and certainly they are super popular in Europe and other places. Very unfortunately some very stupid decisions in the auto industry have "dirty" the Diesel reputation and resulted in polluting and ill performing products which might have signed the death warrant for this technology ...
Just USA and Russia have enough domestically stored Crude Oil barrels to last another 300yrs of todays use. (Edit) for the world^. Its a marketting tactic. Petroleum will not start to become alarmingly rare for another 150-200yrs.
"After the shock of the double fuel crises of the 1970s US manufacturers took action to stem the fuel thirst of their large and heavy vehicles. Many of the hastily created diesels proved tricky to drive, unreliable or even self-destructive, giving diesel a bad name in the US market that took decades to shake off."(wiki)
relentless5321 no it’s not cheaper to run a diesel in Europe, yeah it saves you money for fuel in the long run, but the maintenance is way more expensive, the engine is way more complex the parts are way more expensive and they break down more than a gasoline engine.
@@Andrei-eb2du , since when do Diesels break down more than a gasolines engine? Yes , they are when they break down. Diesels last much longer gasoline engines. In Europe Taxi drivers drive Mercedes E class Diesels which have done 250,000 miles, even more than 300,000 miles.
@@relentless5321 Meanwhile in the U.S. We drive these little gasoline powered Japanese cars called Toyotas and I've seen them hit 430,000 miles but I mean sure diesels last longer than gasoline engines "wink".
I drive an Audi 1.9 Turbo diesel and it has almost 430.000 km on the clock. If you make a lot of km's diesel is much more efficient once the engine has warmed up. Thats why pretty much all taxis were diesel (since hybrid are still quite expensive and not ideal as a taxi, but ive seen hybrid taxis). For short drives, or if you dont drive a lot, go gasoline.
I’m a diesel technician, from my experiences; diesels are usually better. With the recent uses of DPFs, EGRs, and DEF, emissions are less than 1%. But if your car or truck has a clogged DPF, a light will come on to REGEN. What a REGEN does is super heats the exhaust to clean the DPF, but the emissions during a REGEN the emissions can reach up to 1.5% but it only lasts 15-20 mins.
meanwhile here in Europe... still some reasons to buy a Diesel. Heres my most important one: Some of the modern sporty gasoline engines have been ruined by ridiculous gearbox configurations. In the latest BMW gasoline inline 4cyl engines, the software will continously force it into ridiculously high gears to save fuel. This makes the engine drone and vibrate, and worst of all you will have to shift like 6 gears down to get some acceleration. Massive lag. So the car delivers as promised, it has the high peak power and acceleration, as well as the low consumption required by the agencies. But in regular daily use it drives badly. Surprisingly, this gets better with less powerful engines, which don't have to bridge such crazy gaps between peak power and consumption. or you get a manual - but there are barely manuals any more these days due to the regulations. So, the diesel engine doesn't have the same problems, it has a low CO2 emission and thats what the EU is all about these days. No need for ridiculous gearbox software. Due to low rpm torque it doesn't shift around annoyingly much all the time. There are some downsides too, but altogether there are still good reasons for a Diesel, at least in Europe. Try it out for yourselves!
Sat T companies don't have a choice. I was thinking more along the lines of an individual. The last company I worked for had platform lifts based on a ford truck design. They changed more DPFs then you would believe because they were clogging and wouldn't "regenerate". Of course they were also out of warranty. I wouldn't want that expense or inconvenience with my own personal pickup or light duty truck. An older diesel has less to go wrong.
Been very happy with my 1.6 TDI Octavia had it 7 years. Aside from the EGR valve needing replaced (VW paid for that). 60+ mpg and can get around 750 miles from a tank.
Hello. I'm thinking of buying a Passat B6 1.6TDi as my first car. Is it a good engine? and can it pull big cars such as you're octavia and the passat. Thanks
I had a diesel Hyundai i30 - had it for 7 years and I only replaced it as I was involved in an accident. It was a 2010 model so no DPF filter. It was the best purchase I made, Smooth, heaps of torque, great fuel economy and never had an issue with the engine. - most of my driving was city driving also.
@@mohammedsalimahmed5230 I bought it for the same price as the petrol as it was on special. It is almost 10 years ago now so engines didn't have GDi back then
I get 625+ miles per 14.5 gallon tank in my TDI Audi. My previous TDI even more due to the lack of emissions being installed on that model year, and sold it with almost 400k miles still running like it did when new. For a daily driver, I will continue to purchase a diesel vehicle, until electricity has better range and More charging stations.
MegaWayneD I have a 2009 petrol C180 Blueeficiency. I can get 50mpg on the motorway from it. Very happy with it. I would love a BMW 320d efficient dynamics from 2014 on, though:D
I had a 1994 C180 petrol (paid £230 for it!) and a 1998 C200 Sport petrol prior to the two diesels. Me and my Wife can run a 2002 C220 CDI and a 2008 C200 CDI for the same cost as just running one C200 Sport petrol! Our 2008 C200 CDI can do over 65mpg although my Wife has a heavy right foot! It'll still do over 50mpg even with her driving it.
You have a C Class Mercedes... You must be fond of a treat LOL... Yes Years ago in the 1970's and 1980's Mercedes cars were MILES better than the equivalent Vauxhall Cavalier or Austin Maxi.. I agree 100% However time marches on... The build quality over the last 20 Years or so on Mercedes has been "Watered down" and the build quality on other car makes has improved... Thus you are just paying for the plastic badge on the car now when you buy a Mercedes. Mercedes cars are not the big deal they used to be... Other than French cars like Renault, Peugeot and Citroen which are NASTY... 90% of "Mainstream" cars now are built to the same standards.
Dennis@ yep thats true but only on entry versions , on luxury pack + ... u find wood and real leather as usual ,metal n security stuff is always the same ... the c classe i have is 2006 we have an amg E classe and i see no quality difference maybe in entry version it will suck somehow ...
Reasons NOT to buy a new petrol engine car, a new 1.6 litre petrol car will do 30 mpg.... a new 1.6 litre diesel car will do 60 mpg. Who needs another reason ?
Do some research. Diesel is a smelly scam. I lived in Europe awhile. Don't miss that diesel cancer smell at all. Here in the states most passenger cars don't smell. Europe is slowly rethinking the diesel thing.
im getting 50mpg with my prius that 10 years old and with the price difference between gas and diesel im winning, and i dont have to run an electric cord to my car to keep the engine warm in cold weather.
Taffy7hfa don't buy 1.6 ! Buy 1.2 or 1 liter! And of course buy Manuel transmission!There are a lot of fuel efficient gasoline cars.. to save fuel , you don't need just Diesel Engine! Your tires, clunch, transmission , style of driving etc there are lots of factors
I completely disagree with you. I have over 35 years of experience professionally working on diesel engines and most of the negative claims still being made are simply carried over from 25-30 years ago and totally invalid now. One of the biggest destroyers of the fuel quality today, that was not discussed here, is the degraded fuel quality for diesels. We have to add Cetane booster additives due to these components being removed by EPA Regulation. There is no benefit in removing them (no cleaner air, better economy, or longer life of engine) to be had. It does lessen the effectiveness of the engine and all the ridiculous emissions controls on the diesel engine make it (in the USA) like trying to run the engine with a cork in the intake. There are emissions reductions that can be done, most of the stuff on the modern diesel engine are ridiculous as the injections system already did that and the after engine junk just plugs up the performance and increases the fuel consumption. HUMPF!!!
The EPA did raise the minimum cetane from 35 to 40 (and 53 in California’s smog-challenged environment). EPA also lowered sulfur content from 5000ppm to 15ppm.
I have 4 Diesels! 2017 Chevy Colorado 4x4 Duramax, 2015 VW Jetta SEL TDI , 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Eco Diesel, and a 2014 BMW 328D Xdrive Love them all
Depending on what car you're considering, diesel fuel might be cheaper for you if you're looking at a car that would require premium fuel as diesel is cheaper or equivalent per gallon. Also, gasoline engines simply do not get just as good of gas milage as diesels. They just don't.
Scotty it would just have been simpler to say "Diesel cars - I don't have a clue what the hell I'm talking about." For several years diesel cars in the UK were the majority of cars sold. We've not had the issues you're bleating on about.
I live in the UK and drove diesels for 15 years, the best being my Seat leon 2.0 pd worked perfect on my daily 35 mile commute. My problems started a couple of years ago when my commute reduced to zero therefore the mileage on my now Peugeot 2.0 Litre diesel was very low, this caused problems with the dpf filter and so i reverted to petrol power. I admit i miss the torque of a good diesel but for lower mileages it has to be petrol.
ha ha ha, I just read that in the future that they are planning on banning diesel cars in the near future there. He who laughs last, laughs best. And they still are stinking polluters or particulates.
I have to disagree Scotty. Over 10 years driving a gas car, I spent $40,000 in fuel (A zippy, fuel effect Acura Integra)...yes $40k. I then switched to my current Jetta VW Diesel TDI, and I have spent $16,000 over the last 10 years. I think the choice is obvious if price is a concern.
In italy we have crazy high fuel prices, so diesel is very popular, and i can say most of diesel engines especially the ones from few years ago. are ultra reliable, my friend has my same car with a fiat 1.9 turbo diesel engine and he uses it as taxi, it has 600k miles, engine is 100% stock and it still going like a dream
Modern diesels are plagued with all the expensive and problematic emissions stuff. Pick a diesel from before 2008 ish and it will be a pleasure to drive and last forever
Badgertronix your right. That emmisions garbage is complete trash. This 2010 KW has a 600 15 liter cummins. The EGR emissions control REGEN system - all that crap was was deleted . She pulls 80,000 lbs like a scalded dog. Average fuel mileage is 8.7 mpg. Thats excellent for a tractor trailer
Are you kidding? a 2.0 Turbo Diesel is ALWAYS slower than a 2.0 Turbo petrol. You find 2.0 Turbo petrol with more than 300hp STOCK... For fuel economy, yes diesels are always better (with same engine size).
Victor Grădinaru I had B5 and in petrol engine. I cannot agree with you. Service to front aluminum control arms was frequent. Tire wear uneven. Door hinges wore out. It felt stable on the road though. I preferred the 1993-1997 Passats because seats were better, frame stiffer, quiet motor and ride. Timeless interior style.
James Medina I’ve found that German cars are different across continents; I was speaking in the case of the European ones. I also can’t speak about the petrol engines, I only dealt with 1.9 TDI ones. Had no real problems with them. Sorry to hear about your experience.
Victor Grădinaru First of all, my 2000 Passat was made in Germany at end of 99 and was known as B5. The B5.5 was partially updated. They tried to eliminate the issues in B5. Rear suspension was independent all models. The front end looked a little different. Each year can present slightly different variations but our cars should have been similar. Perhaps yours really reduced the issues present in mine. My aunt had a later Passat B6 or B7with much better audio system and seats. It's a shame companies like VW often did bring in something great like Dynaudio company but not keep them involved. Lately, I have found the Passats' evolution to appear slowed down and the exterior boring. They presented a very long warranty last year but have now taken it away. To me, it shows again VW's lack of consistency. We cannot trust them here. I feel that my car did fail me in reliability and the dealership failed me too. I am disappointed VW never sold Passat with 5 cylinder engine here and that the new GTI sold here does not have dual injection system as in Europe. Perhaps they sell us inferior cars to meet a price point? I don't like the results of always exporting lesser vehicles to USA.
James Medina Yeah, the company’s evolution isn’t what it should be. In truth, “my” Passat wasn’t really mine, but my employer’s. As such, I had no real experience in fixing it and such, though knowing their low-maintenance policy, I don’t think they did much to it. Also, the only 5-cyl engine I know is on the Bora, our army had a few of those; I don’t know anything about them, as a car. Yeah, indeed, today, VW isn’t what it once used to be. I am most disappointed about the small engine sizes which, albeit do produce quite a bit of power, cannot be compared with their engines from the past (minus the 2.0 TDI PD B-series, I hear that one wasn’t all that great). It’s a shame, really, because I really like VW cars. In fact, I was planning my next car to be a Passat B9 with 2.0 TDI, we’ll see if that remains to be the case.
In the UK Diesels are very common and they’re reliable as anything. I have a Volkswagen Golf Tdi 1.9 diesel with 297k miles on the clock and still runs like a dream.
Here in the netherlands diesel is cheaper but the tax is higher if you drive a diesel car because it pollutes more. I prefer gasoline over diesel because nowadays gasoline is more reliable. On new diesel engines you have a lot of problems with DPF, EGR valves that get stuck and also the piezo injectors are very very expensive. And the injectors usually have to be replaced every 100.000 miles. Also diesel engines take longer in the winter to warm up and thus the heater takes longer to blow hot air. And finally i hate the sound a diesel makes, i prefer the gasoline engine sound
i tried both i didn’t notice any difference in pleasure petrol cars tend to get fast at high rpms that’s the only difference but diesel doesn’t go quickly
I bought a 2015 Passat TDI just months before the VW diesel scandal. Paid 30K for it, and a year later sold it back to VW with 30,000 miles on it for 31K. I felt VW did me well and bought a GTI after that. I love everything about the GTI more except how often I need to fill up. On the Passat, I would regularly go 800 miles on a tank of fuel. That was nice.
I got 52 mpg in my golf tdi, if i put some powerservice diesel additive id get 55 mpg freeway regularly. I sold my car by to vw and made about a grand on it or so. I bought mine brand new
Ed Mathews I had 2010 GTI brand new had it for 6 years, it's a fun car to drive have no problem been next. I'm kind of all 6'3 I got kind of tired been sardine in.
Reuben VROLIJK Haha, I’m actually 6’4” and I love the seats. So much more comfortable and supportive than the hard and basically flat seats of the Passat. And heated fabric is hard to find. I drive 30-40K per year and comfortable seats are a big thing for me.
My buddy has a diesel VW Jetta and that's easily the car he's had longest. It is very reliable and fuel efficient. He claims he got 60 mpg while on his way to Texas from Michigan. Even a Prius won't do that. Not to mention his Jetta is from the late 80's if I'm not mistaken.
sliwka621 Prius MPG estimates are 58 hwy so I'm guessing what you're seeing, if they're not hybrid, is definitely not typical. Especially knowing people who have Prius'.
I own a Volkswagen Passat 1.9 Diesel in europe, my car is 2008 and there is no way in hell that the equivalent petrol engine for my car is going to get even close to the 800 motorway miles I get from a 3/4 ish tank of fuel, lets take a few engine examples to compare: 1.6 Multipoint injection 103BHP BSE engine(old type port fuel injection engine, no turbo) , my friend had one of these engines in a Jetta and it averaged 7.9l/100km, The 1.6FSI 115BHP (Direct injection non turbo) in an EOS yet again smaller car than a Passat still 7.1l/100km driven by a very careful driver, 1.4TSI 122BHP (Turbocharged) in a passat will deliver 6.5l/100km (it will be higher realistically due to the turbo helping the engine along) and then we come to the 1.9TDI which is stated to deliver 5.8l/100km on paper, but I can tell you along with many others that this is often easily lower due to the availability of torque and the gearing of the car itself, I manage to get 4.7km/100km regularly when commuting to work which is about 35 mins or so at speeds of up to about 85 kilometres and then another motorway journey with varying speeds from 60-120km/h for another half an hour before I reach work (which includes sitting on an exit ramp in traffic usually for about 5 minutes, also the air conditioning always runs in my car in order to maintain a functional system), another problem is that as cars get neglected and driven things begin to break as we all know but realistically I think that from my experience diesel seems to be much tougher when neglected and when it is not it will definitely rack up more miles before needing the repairs that a petrol engine will need. but its not even the fuel economy that makes me want to keep this car, I know that will be great anyway, its the fact that its my first car and I absolutely ADORE it, I never want to sell it and if I had to have it scrapped with the current scrappage schemes VW (and many others have here) in order to remove Euro 1-4 cars from the road due to their particulate pollution in years to come I would be devastated, I would even go so far as to say I would fit Adblue injection and various catalysts to my own car if that were an option although maybe Germany's Blue Crude refined into E-Diesel may offer a fighting change for older cars to clean up emissions either way you'll have to pry the keys out of my cold dead hands until such time it will be running for years!
1.9TDI with normal pumps are the best engines in the world in my opinion. They last without maintenance, they do great work and don't fail, when driver cares and changes oil. I totally agree with you. Now every car manufacturer has to tell you about mileage per galoon, but my Audi 2.0D 70HP made 1600km (around 1000 miles) without refuelling and it has 80 liter tank. How much MPG would it be? Maybe around 47, but I bet it's more than most of new extreme technology engines.
In my country diesel fuel is less than the price of gas it only costs $0.71/litter awhile gas costs $0.92/litter that's why most of vehicles here are run by diesel.
I like that diesels can use several different types of fuels to run on, with little to no modifications depending on the fuel type. I would have thought bio-diesel would have picked up better than electric, given that the infrastructure already exists.
Welcome to Belgium where 80% of all the cars are diesel. Goverment promoted diesel for years (low in taxes, low diesel price at pump, extra discount when you buy a dieselcar). Now everybody has a diesel car they start raising taxes for diesel cars and start banning them from cities. Also they charge extra taxes at the pump so diesel becomes almost the same price as gasoline. At the moment we pay 1.40€ for 1litre diesel and 1.45€ for 1 litre gasoline
That's why I switched to LPG years ago, when they started pushing those "ecodiesels". When our government promotes something, it always bites back: we already saw it with the diesel cars and solar panels, and it'll be the same with electric and (already failed) CNG cars. My current car is a 2016 Fiat Doblo 1.4 T-Jet, chiptuned and LPG converted: With the tuning and conversion, the price was about the same as a stock 2.0l diesel version with similar horsepower and not even that much more torque, taxes and insurance for my 1.4 petrol + LPG are similar to the 2.0 diesel. 500km costs me 20-25€ of LPG and a little bit of petrol, so around 30€ or 6€/100km in fuel. The 2l diesel doesn't even do that in the brochure on cheap diesel fuel, I estimate the real world fuel cost for me would easily be 9€/100km. I recently passed 50k km, so that's already €1500 saved with this car in less than 2 years alone. I also did the math for the 1.6l diesel version and concluded I just about broke even at this point, so even if they suddenly decide to increase the cost of LPG fuel, it needs to go over 70% of the cost of diesel (currently ca. 35%) before the diesel version would run cheaper.
Belgium Dashcam Yes, it's ridiculous for people who don't drive a lot. For me with 25-30k km/yr it doesn't matter: a similar performing 2.0l diesel would cost just as much in tax with higher fuel cost, a 1.6l diesel would cost a bit less in tax but still more in fuel for less performance. Discontinuing the LPG tax or even giving a discount because better emissions over petrol would make more sense, but that would also trigger adding the same taxes on LPG fuel as they do on petrol, which would make it similar to CNG, which is environmentally even better, but has no economical advantages over diesel.
I think the rise in the price of diesel was due to the government demanding "better" and less contaminating diesel. Ultra low sulfur content adds an extra step in refining which then adds pennies to the price. Having a diesel engine may also be cheaper if you made your own fuel, but then the government starts getting butthurt because they don't collect taxes and blah blah blah..
Sorry to say this is bunk A euro 6 diesel emits 35 pct co2 and less nox and particles than euro 6 gasoline car I know as in our family we run both All the tripe you hear about diesel is for cars of 10 + years ago Diesel Less fuel less co2 less maintainence and longer range on a tank and in most normal countries diesel is 10 pct less per volume
Are you mostly driving on highways? Because these things do not apply for a diesel used 90 percent of the time in the city, except for the fuel economy.
@@Harambe. Look at the euronorm tests on Ford focus 1.4 tdci and compare with same car with 1.4 petrol The eur 6a test is a mixed cycle real word test and is borne out by my use figures My driving is mostly highway but now and again I suffer the cities of europe My average consumption is ca 4.2 l / 100 km which is near 75 miles per imp gallon I can do 1200 km on a full tank eg Brussels to Spain border fully loaded You can stick your finger in the exhaust pipe and it comes out clean My renault trafic box van does 6.2/ 100km it makes no nox due to adblue injected uses about 3 ltr per 1000 km My wifes Opel eur 6 astra1.4 petrol cannot get below 6.5 per 100 even on highway and
In USA diesels from 2010+ must meet the same NOx, SOx, HC, CO maximum emissions as a gasoline (no difference). In addition diesels have soot filters. Gasoline cars don’t, so gasoline cars just spew microscopic soot into the air! That means diesels are actually cleaner overall (surprise). BTW diesel exhaust used to smell, because of sulfur in the fuel. That is now eliminated in US fuel .
This may be true in the USA, but here in Europe it's a slightly different ball game due to the taxes and traffic conditions. To give you an example from my country, engines up to 1.7 litre get low taxes, after reaching 1.8 and up to 2.9 the taxes triple. After 3.0 we pay 1 Euro per CC for that engine, so you end up with the so-called "luxury tax" that ends up being at least 3000 Euros per year. The insurrances take into account engine power too. Anything under 100 Horsepower and 1.6 litre get low taxes, everything above that will double the insurrance cost. On top of these taxes, put the environment tax that takes into account your engine pollution rating (Euro 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, you may have heard of it). Get our low incomes compared to the USA and you will choose Diesel engines as they provide more bang for the buck in the long run as they are more economical to run. A comparison is between my ex Ford Focus 1.6 101 horsepower gasoline engine that drank 16 liters of gasoline for every 100 km and my current Ford Fiesta 1.5 75 horsepower diesel engine that consumes only 6.4 liters of diesel for every 100 km. The Focus was Euro 4 and the Fiesta is Euro 5, has a smaller engine but due to the torque is faster in city driving, consumes less, has a cheaper insurance and taxes, so you can see why most of us prefer diesel engines in Europe. By the way, the ratio between gasoline and diesel engines for civilian vehicles in Europe is almost 50-50.
i live in finland and i have , 1999 4.2litre quattro audi , 2004 2.5tdi v6 4motion passat and 2009 1.9tdi octavia, taxes per year for 4.2v8 = 390€ for 2.5tdi = 800€ and for 1.9tdi is 600€ Diesel price is approx~1.3€ / LITRE and gasoline 1.5€ / litre. insurance cost depends on how many collisions there have been with such a car which you have and where do you live and if you have been in any accident. in my case they are about 200€ / car / year. :)
wtf country is that? Diesel only makes sense in under 2 liters and constant highway driving. If what you do is city driving short trips, a 2.0+ petrol engine will be much easier to maintain and nicer to drive- more smooth, more quiet.
Next time on scotty Kilmer channel why all cars are bad, diesel, gas, turbo, supercharged, Mercedes, 4x4 all bad. So rev up your legs coz ur gonna be walking soon.
peugeot 307 2.0hdi, turbo diesel, 140hp, now the best part, 760.000km on odometer and still puls like crazy, try to beat that for a car that i bought for 4000 australian dollars
Had a 407 with the 2 litre diesel, bloody brilliant car, cost bugger all to run. Did 100k round trip daily to work. Ended its days when a woman drive yakking on her phone rammed it from behind.
Xantia 2.0 HDi 110hp. Turbo diesel. Have only 209 000 kilometres on clock (probably 100 or 200 more) changed once egr valve and timing belt. Very reliable motor I made 140 000 kilometres in 5 years. But car chassis is decompositing now. So I bought another car . Vectra diesel 1.9 jtd CDTI. I used before 150 hp petrol car but converted to LPG fuel and wasn't bad too. Quiet motor and cheap to run in EU.
I have a long relation with the "French" diesels, both Peugeot/Citroen and Renault. I simply love them! Reliable, economical, simple to maintain and cheap! Let's not forget the cherry on top. They're way more smooth than the, also reliable, VW TDI! What's not to love ❤! BTW I'm not sure if people realize these Peugeot/Citroen HDI, are designed and considered as "light duty" diesel engines! This is NOT a "heavy duty" lump like the ones found on trucks and similar. What about that?! ;-)
diesel cars are a lot more popular here in Sweden, 1 gallon of gasoline costs 7,11 usd and almost same for diesel if not a little cheaper but diesel cars get way more gas mileage and thats important when a gallon costs 7.11 dollars..
I’ve had an 85 merc turbo diesel and own a 93 Chevy 3500, 6.5L. Both ran/run like clocks. This is before the newer emissions regulations that are slowly turning diesels into crap. My truck is old enough not to have to deal with those things, and I would take it any day of the week over my gasoline cars. The key is to get older diesels, but not too old
I been driving a diesel Jeep Liberty for about 8 years. The engine has been very reliable and gets great fuel milage. Pulling my pop up from southern Pennsylvania to Hilton Head SC then to Ashville NC and back home to Pennsylvania, we used less than $250 in fuel over that 11 day trip. Diesel does cost more in the US now but it was cheaper in the past. The reason repair cast can be so much more on some Diesels is fewer mechanics know these engines. There are also fewer of them meaning parts arent as comman either. Still my diesel gets enough mpg to more then overcome the more expensive fuel. And diesels realy dont polute a lot more than gas engines. Diesels are about 30% more efficient than gasoline so they burn less fuel. They do however have more particle emission than gas but less co2 then gas. The idea that they are dirty comes from seeing more of the exaust but we cant see all the enissions like co2. The other thing diesel is better for is using alternative fuels, you can make bio diesel out of many oils including waste products like fryer oils. Sure you can run a gas engine on ethanol but it takes as much as or more energy to make ethanol than it contains and it obsorbs moisture and is harder to store and transport. Bio diesel also burns cleaner than petro diesel reusing waste products and thats good for the environment.
I've got a 2005 Liberty CRD, too. I've made my own biodiesel for quite some time and the engine loves it. If you have access to cheap/free waste vegetable oil, then you should definitely consider getting a good 2006 or older (less engine parts to foul up) diesel vehicle!
Rodrigo Sagebin I get Bio diesel where ever I can. I dont live in a place with a detatched garage so I dont have a Safe place to make my own from waste veg oil or I would.
In italy we drive almost Diesel cars, also small citycar like Fiat Panda, that have the small 1.3 diesel 95cv, that run faster than all 1.2 or 1.4 petrol that other citycar and also panda have. The bigger cars here are Bmw or Mercedes that have 2.0 engine and are 99 percent diesel engine. All vw are diesel generally 1.6 or 1.9 tdi.... here only petrol car are old fiat cars with “1.2 fire” or modern citycars with petron engine and gpl system also.
Yup, not to mention more BTUs per drop, thus more torque. More stable than gasoline, thus ideal for harsh climes / conditions. Gov't regulators pick on diesels.....and yet saturate the planet with nuclear powerplants that produce radioactive waste that can take THOUSANDS OF YEARS to disspipate. Imagine that. Entombed nuclear waste all over Earth in supposedly leak-proof coffins. Jeez.
Adam Kadmon the relative amount of waste is much less than the pollutants that Diesel engines make. The waste is also usually a solid and from a single source so it’s easy to regulate and keep track of unlike millions of Diesel engines. Trust me I like diesels but that’s not a good comparisons
The engine is the least of our problems. Now cars are so full of crap you need a computer degree to just use the radio. Simpler is what interests me as a buyer.
Must remember to scrap my wife’s Ford SMax 2l Diesel that has covered 211000 miles, original turbo, engine, gearbox, clutch, DMF, PDF etc, because Scotty says they are no good....
If you service regulary diesel car it can last for decades. Many problems with modern diesel comes from not changing oil regulary (6000 miles or 10 000 max). DPF clogs, backpresures, thins oil becasue of many unsuccessful regneration with high temps (engine injects more fuel to raise tempeature to burn particels in dpf). To me problem is that manfractures state oil chanege at 20000 miles intervals. Just change oil and flters regulary and use god fuel with additives that are common on almost every gas station and it will outlive every petrol engine car... Sry for my bad english
@@fernandostanic2035 My car calculates the service and oil change interval depending on the type of driving. All on highway 30000km, Much city driving 20000km.
This guy is pretty clueless I sigh, and he doesn't even understand that the pollutants from diesels are way less harmful, the black smoke canot evaporate into the environment like co2 it simply accumulate on objects on the ground
@@nolanmitchell7319 It generates some microparticles in nanometer size. They float in the air forever. And they go deep into the lung vacuoles. Unfortunately the particles from gasoline direct injection engines are even finer than the ones from diesel engines and some say therefore more dangerous.
lol now I know why Americans don't drive Diesels. Europeans love their Diesels because Diesel is cheaper than gasoline, they are more reliable, more efficient, lots of torque and in the long run are cheaper than gasoline Engines.
The emission laws here in the US are written so that light duty diesel engines (yes, even you pickup guys) have to have so many sophisticated emissions systems.. that the engine become less reliable than there gasoline counterpart.
One thing in video is false, gas has better emissions, this is actually b.s., diesel has better burn quality and actually produce less emissions. But it u have been in the business that long u would know that, it's like saying a prius has better emissions because it gets more mpg, well this is also b's, because u have to change 5k worth of batteries. U think those batteries that get mined have to mpg put into them. Prius equal about 15 mpg after mining fuel etc.
In Europe there are a lot of diesel cars, in Germany for example 36 % of all new cars are diesels, but before dieselgate they had more than 50 %, so they lost one third. In Germany diesel is cheaper than gasoline, because it's subsidized by government original to support the transportation industry, but since the 1990s diesel cars got a lot faster because of turbo chargers, and car buyers switched from gasoline to diesel. Fuel price is much higher in Germany than in US, people who buy bigger, heavier cars buy usually diesels because it would be too expensive to run them with gasoline. Since dieselgate diesel is heavy criticized in Europe, because they pollute cities with their nox and all diesel engines pollute much more than they would be allowed to. Resell prizes for diesel cars are falling fast now, specially VW cars with the cheated engines. Almost no private consumer would buy now a new diesel car in Germany, excepted really big heavy cars.
Taxes on diesel went up too since the old days. Also, Detroit couldn't compete with the foreign companies so they lobbied Congress to keep them out with higher tariffs & stricter regulation.
Things are a bit different over here in the UK and the rest of Europe. I drive a French 7 seat MPV (minivan) which has a 2.0 litre diesel engine. I carry passengers and tow a caravan. My 20 mile each way commute to work includes a section of motorway which is more suited to a diesel. In the UK diesel is only a bit more expensive (a few pence per litre) than petrol (gas). I use genuine parts when servicing.
I am a little skeptical about diesel being worse than petroleum/ gasoline. Since diesel has better mpg, we should be considering how much pollution is released per gallon of gasoline vs per gallon of diesel.
Same as Australia. 20 yrs ago diesel was half the price of 'gas', then it became trendy for every suburban family to own a 4wd drive wagon. Now diesel is more expensive than gas.
@@MTechOver9000 1.9 TDI´s are the most reliable engines in Europe. 66kw are the best for reliability and WV even used 1.9s in RS models. If you properly maintain these things they will outlast everything. We had 1.9 TDI 74 KW brand new. It has done 270k km and aside from oil changes and timing belt replacements it only needed some flap in turbo because it just rusted out and wasn't opening right, pretty sure it cost less than 100€. Great engines but damn they sound like tractors :D
@@AlterKillerful My grandpa has a Passat B5.5 sedan and it's done 380k (km) sorry i don't know it in miles but i think its a lot, we live in Serbia and it's bought in UK and imported to Serbia and got a LHD conversation. It's a 1.9TDI with 76kw
