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Why Not to Charge a Tesla to 90%, and Which Percentage to Charge to Based on Your Driving 

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To what percentage should you charge your Tesla battery? There’s a lot of misinformation out there, and not every owner has the same driving needs. Here is a breakdown and understanding of the states of stress and equilibrium or rest in a Tesla battery system, and three scenarios of Tesla drivers and what percentage they should charge their cars too. Some charge to 60%, some to 80%, and some to 100%. Which percentage do you charge to?
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@seansigal
@seansigal 2 месяца назад
Drive 300 miles a day. Need to use the full battery every day. This video helped calm the nerves
@montycatral1451
@montycatral1451 9 месяцев назад
Brandon I do have a question that you might know the answer. I have a Tesla Model Y and I will be travelling for an extended period of time for 2 months in fact. I was thinking of charging the car at 80% and leaving it unplugged until I return. Would you know if it will hold charge to 30% until i return? Thank you in advance.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 9 месяцев назад
It likely will be dead, I’d recommend leaving it at 50% and plugged in while gone. The car will regulate itself just fine
@Rockythevw
@Rockythevw Год назад
I’ve had a model y for 3 months and its main use is to drive 375 km from our home (Calgary )to our cottage in BC. We have EV chargers at both locations so it works well so far. ( we’ll see how we do in colder weather). We charge to 100% before the trip and end up with 20% at the end. I’m going to take your advice and only charge to 60% for daily driving around town. Thx for the explanation. Btw we have solar installations at both locations.
@Solarlife-fs3tz
@Solarlife-fs3tz Год назад
was charging up to 100% every day, but i am using only 10-15% a day, so after your video, will charge up to 60%, thanks!
@ronl2463
@ronl2463 3 года назад
Tesla says keep plugged in when possible, use level 1 or 2 chargers for daily charging, set daily charge between 50% and 90%, avoid dropping below 20% and going above 90% (when possible)
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Yep! This is all true. I learned this as an employee. I learned the content of this video after I learned what Tesla taught me, and wanted to share.
@rocketrollsvlogs7625
@rocketrollsvlogs7625 Месяц назад
I can't imagine not getting a new car every three or four years for the next 9 to 12 yrs. The technology is advancing so fast.
@trinitybricks9522
@trinitybricks9522 8 месяцев назад
If you use it as a uber/taxi then charge it to 90% everyday/everytime, that should be fine I think.
@marioescalona1640
@marioescalona1640 9 месяцев назад
There is a lot of different opinions and disinformation out there. After reading some studies on batteries from lab tests. Depending on how much you drive daily charge to 50-80% (70% ideally) and if possible and charge back every one or 2 days, the lower dept of discharge (DOD) the better (max to min) , and the lower the cell voltage the longer they age (called calendar aging) however the DOD is more influential so try not to go below 20% frequently (30% ideally).
@jefferrrson1x
@jefferrrson1x 6 месяцев назад
100% correct.
@raymonewhite4892
@raymonewhite4892 4 года назад
I hit the like button just because of the title... Thanks for putting this one together. VERY intriguing information.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 4 года назад
Thank you Raymone! Saving the world one battery at the time.
@freedom68
@freedom68 2 года назад
I’ve read that if you have an LFP battery you should charge it to 100% at least once a week. Charging it daily to 100% does not hurt it.
@lloydrobins6074
@lloydrobins6074 11 месяцев назад
I have heard this also but I have seen accounts which indicate that they are still just lithium ion batteries that deal with being charged to 100% a bit better. The 50% rule still works for them. I don't know if you need to charge them to 100% periodically for some sort of calibration, though.
@bh9262
@bh9262 3 года назад
That should be built into the design of the software. So essentially, when the batteries are charged to 100 %, they are really at 90% of the capacity. The owner shouldn't have to think about it nor be concerned with it.
@mshell1959
@mshell1959 3 года назад
According to the Frugal Tesla Guy it's in the manual.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
It’s definitely more effort, Elon has been public about it not being that big of a deal. We don’t have a ton of data on how much it affects battery health yet, but we know for sure it helps.
@conradce
@conradce 2 года назад
They need to strike a balance between battery longevity and giving owners as much range and flexibility as possible. I wouldn’t want them to derate the battery *too* much, because it’s nice to have the option if needed. I think giving owners the ability to set a charge limit the way they do is the right choice. As least for a tech-oriented control freak like me. That said, I suspect they actually have derated the battery some. I.e., I suspect 100% as reported on the Tesla screen doesn’t take the cell voltages as high as 100% on, say, an iPhone. Tesla has to be confident that they will meet their 8-year/192,000 km battery warranty most of the time. (Although that is made easier for them because they only promise it will retain 70% capacity during that time.)
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
@@conradce I agree ☝️
@gerthddyn
@gerthddyn 2 года назад
​@@conradce Without having the resting cell voltage, we don't really know what they are charging to. Is 100% 4.2V or 4.0V? Don't know from the interface. 4.0V is far less stressing. Is 0% considered 3.2V or higher? All we have are vague assurances of "good" and "bad". And all of this behavioral driving is almost irrelevant for the LFP chemistry as they are so different from the standard Li-Ion cells. As for the OP commenter, knowing something about your car should be taught to you by the dealer when they deliver it. You have to live with the batteries for the entire time you own the car, which could mean up to 10 years or so (look at the Model S owners with battery issues lately). Giving more information in the interface would be nice, but arbitrarily pulling an Apple for a car that you are paying $42,000 to $133,000 is a bad move. Let the user know what they are doing and establish good driving and ownership habits based on the longevity of a car. ICE owners were always told to change the oil in their car and to not get their car to 0 fuel because it is bad for the engine (and the fuel pump). This is no different.
@Jerry-Mesa
@Jerry-Mesa 4 года назад
Thanks, makes sense obviously. I know keeping it charged to 100% and not driving stresses the battery but is charging then driving immediately for a trip after it charges to 100% less stressful? In other words is it the charging level or the duration of being fully charged?
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 4 года назад
Yes! If you’re putting it up to 100%, try not to leave it there long. You can plan ahead and finish charging your car right before leaving for your trip.
@shilver101
@shilver101 8 месяцев назад
I charge my M3 LR RWD up to 85 percent every day. I drive close to 170 mi. on the days I drop my wife to work and than head into work myself. If I charge to 80% I am getting home with about 30% battery I feel more comfortable charging to 85% and getting home with about 40% battery. I hope I am not messing up my battery. its an older Tesla 2018 but has less than 40k mi.
@gerthddyn
@gerthddyn 2 года назад
All of these scenarios assume you have Level 2 charging available. If you are currently trickle charging, going from any real depth of charge to even 60% will take the entire night and getting up to 80 or 90% will take a couple of days. You mentioned that leaving it at a higher state of charge is bad, but you didn't mention that doing so is far worse if your car is kept hot. Conversely, if you are driving and storing the car in a colder climate closer to 0 degrees C, need more percentage of your battery just to keep the batteries warm enough to get a decent energy output during a drive, so it also makes sense that you may need to charge and leave it at a significantly higher state of charge and that is fine because the average degradation will be WAY less. Good advice overall for the uninformed. It would be nice if Tesla's reported their individual cell/pack voltage for the more well informed about battery chemistries and those that test them for "other applications" (like spacecraft). Also this doesn't apply at all to the Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries. Those chemistries have completely different reactions.
@SkeenDogger
@SkeenDogger Год назад
First time viewing your channel but i charge my Model 3 Performance to 80 percent everyday. Supposedly i get 300 or so miles a day but realistically i get 265 miles on a charge when fully charged.
@MH-so9oz
@MH-so9oz 2 года назад
2021 MYP. I charge 2x/week up to 80%. I only drive roughly 150 miles per week, so it rarely gets below 50%. Just passed 10K miles after 18 months of ownership. All seems to be well so far.
@MrRb13
@MrRb13 3 года назад
And where the data backing up your claims is? Just because you say 0% and 100% SOC is stressfull for battery does not mean that sweet spot 50% is the best
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Where do you think it would be?
@davidchan8711
@davidchan8711 Год назад
This has hands down been the most informative video I have seen on charging % and battery health - thank you so much!
@hopehebdon2113
@hopehebdon2113 Год назад
Best advice I’ve seen on charging. You’re right there is so much misinformation out there. I am in the first scenario where I don’t drive a lot and I appreciate the straightforward advice on keeping the battery close to 50%.
@AdnanoCarino
@AdnanoCarino 2 года назад
Driving uber in tesla model 3 long range 2022, just 1 month now. Charging dc 44kw everyday 2 time, charge 90 percent max, and never try start charging at less than 15 percent. I dont have home charging option, only dc fast or tesla supercharger. There are lot of type 2 charging, but it take 8 hours to full charge, and dont want to stay my car there for this much long time, coz it is far from my appartment. I just want to keep my battery alive for atleast 3 years until my bank instalment finish. Please,Need your advice
@tz1592
@tz1592 Месяц назад
I'm so glad I found this video. I'm just purchased my first Tesla, a Model X. I love it. Based on this information and since I don't have a ton of driving every week, I will try and keep my battery around the 50-60% level when I charge. When I get down to 30%, I'll charge it up to 50-60%. Does that sound like a good plan? I always thought I should charge up to 80% each time, but if I don't have a lot of miles to drive, I won't. Thanks again.
@cherokee180c0
@cherokee180c0 Год назад
Great video, but looking for one more piece of advice. Should you purposefully charge to 100% periodically (once per quarter for instance) to balance the entire battery pack? This is true for all the other lithium polymer battery packs I use. I have never charged to 100% yet in 8 months of car ownership and only charge to 95% before leaving on a long road trip. I know you should leave as soon as possible once you reach 100%, but it would seem to me if it is good to recalibrate the system once in a while, long road trips would offer a good opportunity to do that once in a while.
@alexius23
@alexius23 4 года назад
Getting Model 3 Long Range comes the Spring. I live in a “salt the roads” State. I want to spare the new Tesla from winter driving.....I see myself being a “1” once I make my Tesla purchase. I do road trips a few times a year...only then will I do 100%.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 4 года назад
An early contractions to you Alexius! I’m a 1 too right now, but I was a 2 for a long time. Seasons and driving needs can change often. It’ll be healthy for your car during its early phase of life.
@raymondwong2521
@raymondwong2521 2 года назад
My Model X P100D with 74,000 miles runs like the first day I got it. 80% of charging all the time with 216-219 miles and since day one, it has reduced some mileage per 80% charge. In comparison, when the car was new and first few 80% of charging gave me 223-225 miles. My car is officially rated at 289 miles per full charge by Tesla. So, 219 miles / 80% = 274 miles. Compared to when I first got my car, 225 miles / 80% = 281 miles (8 miles shy of Tesla's rated 289 miles). So, there was 8 miles of buffer. My battery degradation has only been 281 miles - 274 miles = 7 miles over 74,000 miles of life, or about 2.4% degradation since 7 miles / 289 miles is about 2.4%. Why care so much so long as we are not pushing it too much. Enjoy the ride and enjoy life. Don't over worry about battery degradation. More important is charging speed. If you always fast charge it by warming up the battery, your battery may actually has much shorter life compared to one that is always slow charged. Again, who knows? Tesla is still learning about its batteries, they are still as much as we do trying to see how long their batteries can last since we are all new to the longevity of batteries.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Agreed, enjoy the car, don’t stress too much over degradation!
@2024-l9n
@2024-l9n 2 года назад
Do you charge to over 90% in a long trip? I heard it wont damage battery since it is at high level for only a short time
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
@@2024-l9n yep! I only charge to 100% if I’m about to go for a Roadtrip.
@rsxbulma
@rsxbulma 3 месяца назад
I carpool with coworkers 50 miles one way so 100 miles round trip. My job offers charging at level 2 should I charge my M3LR when I arrive at work or should I charge a couple hours before leaving?
@JoshtheMann3
@JoshtheMann3 3 года назад
Well I’ve been a Model S owner for about 3 months now and I’ve been charging to 90% before watching this video, but I only have a 15 min drive to work, so I will start charging only to 50% long term to lengthen my battery’s lifespan! Thank you for the information. Super helpful. When I know I need to go further distance around 30-40 min away after work the next day or over the weekend, I can just charge to 80% the night before! Thank you again! So helpful!
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 3 года назад
Congratulations on your Model S! And I'm so stoked I could be of help!
@tyranelewis7763
@tyranelewis7763 3 года назад
That's what I have been doing with my MS 85D since Brandon has posted this valuable video
@vroomzy1
@vroomzy1 Год назад
Do 60% so the battery runs between 40 and 60.. That averages to 50
@matthewpan2380
@matthewpan2380 Год назад
This is misinformation, you shouldn’t keep your battery at 50% all the time. It’s gonna mess with BMS and the strain of keep at 80% is almost the same at 50%. And you gonna destroy your battery if you have LFP battery. Just keep your battery between 20% to 80%. And if you have home charger then do smaller frequent charge is much better than big charging cycle from 10% to 80%.
@jeffreyblanton9877
@jeffreyblanton9877 5 месяцев назад
I mostly charge up to 70% and some days I’ll skip a day of charging and let the car sit at 50 % and charge when it drops to 30%. Occasionally I’ll charge it up to 90% for a week and then move it back to 70%. For a long trip I’ll charge up to 95%. I’ve only charged it to 100% one time and I drove it immediately. It’s really not necessary to charge to 100%.
@cliffhaston577
@cliffhaston577 3 месяца назад
Makes sense. But what is the actual stress mechanism. This video has changed my habits from 20-80 to 30-70 or even 40-60 based on the limited miles I will be driving.
@stevenlao2494
@stevenlao2494 4 года назад
I don't own a tesla at the moment but am planning on working eventually and saving up for a model 3 or the $25,000 model. I think I would switch between situation #1 and #2 currently as some days I drive about 40 min to 1 hr to commute to school and back while some days I chill at home because of quarantine. Thank you for taking the time to do research on the ideal situation to preserve battery life if possible!
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 4 года назад
Awesome goal to save up for! 40-60min is pretty standard, and also a long time to spend on the roads each day. Autopilot will be life-changing someday when you reach your goal. Thank you for taking the time to comment!
@Blessinsz
@Blessinsz 3 года назад
Using a m3 Lr 2021 for grubhub deliveries, got it brand new 3 months ago and already got 10k miles on it 🙏 car is amazing!
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Congrats! 🎉
@matsteel2292
@matsteel2292 8 месяцев назад
Hey from Australia I just got my brand new M3 AWD this week I see so many vids on here they say a happy Tesla is a plugged in one ? That's where Im confused when it's at say 50 or 60 % in your garage should it be plugged in or not ? or can you leave it plugged in and not charge ? Or lower the charge limìt to say 60 % and keave it plugged in ? Hope that makes sense? Cheers Mat.
@floodtheinbox
@floodtheinbox 3 месяца назад
I have a ~70mi daily commute and I keep my charge limit to 50% in the summer and 60% in the winter. When I get home I usually have between 22% and 27%
@CaptainCaveman782
@CaptainCaveman782 Год назад
I live in China and things are very different here. Tesla sold more cars in China Q1 2023 than the US. Now of course it's 60% of the US price as they need to compete with BYD The problem we have here is no one lives in a traditional house, (everyone lives in a high rise apartment) so home charging is not an option. It's just not feasible to go to a charging station daily or charging only a little. Most charging stations that are convenient are always full or occupied by gas cars who just use it as a car parking space (it's China , people are quite selfish unfortunately). Thus we generally charge to what is preset by the operating system
@ericmarollano6915
@ericmarollano6915 2 года назад
I just got my tesla model3 three days ago. Thank you for explaining this. It makes a lot more sense.
@montycatral1451
@montycatral1451 9 месяцев назад
Great video! I'm a new Tesla Model Y owner and do not drive as much. I have been charging my Tesla to 60% and when it comes down to 35-40% I plug it in.
@zmaxauto8246
@zmaxauto8246 11 месяцев назад
i drive on average 350+ miles per day doing Uber on my 2023 Model Y I charge to 80% but run down to 10% mid day and have to super charge once am back at home i plug it in to a level 2 charger also charging to 80% my question is can i do a 100% daily since i drain the battery down every day?
@harishms1982
@harishms1982 3 года назад
Quite eye opening for someone like me that considered a std range 3 vs long range y. Looks like the long range y may be better if I want to be very mindful of the charging recommendation between 20-80% since I may still get the range also am looking for. Thanks Brandon.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 3 года назад
Happy to help, and even more stoked that this opened your eyes to a couple of the surprises of owning one!
@santanero4vidasantanero4vi54
I drive 110 miles a day for work thats both ways. I do charge to 87 percent a day but I have to be charging every single night. Is that ok?
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver Год назад
It sure is, charge up as you need it! On weekends if you’re not using it as much, you can maybe let it rest lower around 60% until you need it full again.
@santanero4vidasantanero4vi54
@@BrandonDriver Thanks Brandon! As a new Tesla driver I appreciate all your informative videos. You have a new subscriber.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver Год назад
@@santanero4vidasantanero4vi54 Welcome!
@foxy5855
@foxy5855 Год назад
use to go 60-40 or 60-30, daily basis, if driving more far away in week-end and i know a full bat is enough back and forth i go for 100%, if i know that a supercharging is needed anyway then then i go for 90% at home and use superchargers to continue the trip
@fredmacias3273
@fredmacias3273 Год назад
i.have.bolt.ev.i.drive.85.miles.a.day.and.i.charge.the.car.at.work.every.day.with.220.how.much.percentage.do.i.use
@johnmoore1495
@johnmoore1495 3 года назад
“Paid coaching session” ... to buy a car... Tesla people are wild.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 3 года назад
I may not be as reputable as a lawyer or doctor, but I've worked with thousands of interested electric vehicle buyers. I've saved many of them thousands of dollars from various methods and tricks I've picked up in the 4 years I've been in the industry. So yep, I offer that experience and expertise, and I love doing it too.
@nsxmatt
@nsxmatt Год назад
I got my Tesla because of the speed, which those advertised numbers are when the battery is closer to 100% so I keep it charged to 95% everyday. My battery warranty is way longer than i'll ever own the car so the long term effects of a battery with a 120k mile warranty is not of my concern.
@algins2045
@algins2045 8 месяцев назад
why does the charging STOP if fob is out and away from vehicle, thanks,tesla s 2020
@edwardstromski2331
@edwardstromski2331 2 года назад
I will leave my Tesla Y in the garage without driving at all for the 3 months I travel (by airplane) North for the summer. Should I leave the Tesla plugged in for a 50% charge limit, or should I leave it unplugged after bringing it to 50%?
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Leave it plugged in! It’ll boost if ever needed.
@conradce
@conradce 3 года назад
I’ve been using 70% for those days that I know I don’t need much range. I picked it because it’s halfway between 50% (the lowest allowable charge limit) and 90% (the highest recommended charge limit for daily use). As another commenter asked, is there any empirical or authoritative source for the claim that 50% is the least stressful charge level? (Though it does make some intuitive sense, given that it’s mid-way between 20% and 80%, which many view as the limits for daily use.)
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Nothing empirical yet, the tech is still very new. But lots of science that suggests that this is indeed correct, and I would expect something in the next year or two to be published about it.
@sunbirgill5990
@sunbirgill5990 2 года назад
Keep it simple stupid. There’s a good video on this. Keep the car plugged in as much as possible. Charge up to 90% per Tesla (because there’s a large reserve). Try not to go below 20%. No one gets stated range so though you say drive 200 miles, that’s actually more like starting with 300 miles. Hell you may not even make it 200 miles in a LRM3.
@Lobo243
@Lobo243 11 месяцев назад
I drive 94 miles a day and i charge to 80% ...is that ok ? it's take 40% of the battery round trip
@kiwwi63
@kiwwi63 3 года назад
one factor you forgot is ownership time of car keeping the car to 8 years charge to 100% if you want to keep the car longer then charge below ,current durability of cells is 8years till major degradation occurs.
@lukasscheurer9078
@lukasscheurer9078 2 года назад
Except that a prudent buyer will test the battery degradation and the value you will get for the car will be based on that. Tesla will only replace it if it catastrophically fails within 8 years I.e. more than 30% degradation
@tjpowell9779
@tjpowell9779 2 года назад
I’ve only owned my Model 3 for 2 weeks. I drive about 160 - 180 miles a day. I was charging to 80% but realized I was going below 20% charge some days. I now charge to 85% so I don’t drop below the magic 20%. So which is worse charging above 80% or discharging below 20%?
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
It’s about the same effect going above 80% or below 20%. I’d say you should check out the Schedule Departure feature in your car, and have it charge to 90% if needed right before you leave in the morning. And congrats on your car!’
@alexsmith6271
@alexsmith6271 Год назад
@@BrandonDriver No, it’s not the same you don’t have a clue again.
@samclark3879
@samclark3879 2 года назад
Good job! I commute 30 minutes each way daily. About 60 total miles. I charge to 80% every other day. By day 2 I am down to about 40%. Works great.
@Sphinx681
@Sphinx681 2 года назад
Tesla claims the best is to always be charging but what they fail to tell you is should you always charge even if it’s 5 minutes or 30 minutes should you still be charging … 8 years warranty I would say charge to 100 as long as you’re driving the car right after you charge to 100… but I’d you’re draining the battery pass 15 percent and not charging right after … your battery will degrade faster
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
True!
@javiergener4887
@javiergener4887 Год назад
I’ve own 2014 model s for almost 2 yrs now. I’ve always charged to 90% but going to drop it to 80%. Thx for ur thoughts on charging.
@raychow5419
@raychow5419 3 года назад
Everybody seems to be battery experts, just following the car Manual.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 3 года назад
Lots of good info in the car manual. Lots of info that isn't widely known yet about batteries too!
@conradce
@conradce 3 года назад
The car manual doesn’t say much about the optimal charge level.
@chrissholes5471
@chrissholes5471 3 года назад
I charge to 80% but will probably start charging to 60% now that you discussed equilibrium. Thanks
@c.galioto4432
@c.galioto4432 2 года назад
Getting a 2022 Model 3 LR soon,waiting for delivery date. This is our 1st Telsa and I believe I will be charging my car to 90%. My normal commute to work 4 days a week is 120 miles round trip. My wife has range anxiety already because she normally gets stuck in traffic which can make the commute at times 2 to 2 1/2 hours on certain days. She thinks she will run out of battery sitting in traffic. Any suggestions or advice? Is 90% charging range the right place to charge?
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Congratulations on your first Tesla! Email me if you’d like a free delivery checklist (hello@electricautosquad.com). Driving in traffic uses very little electricity, Teslas actually get longer range the slower they go. If you have to charge to 90%, do it! But on days you don’t need to, the battery will be happy to have some days of rest.
@AzmielSinclair
@AzmielSinclair Год назад
Gone be at the faster charger like 100% me now pls thank you I drive for Uber
@samenation4562
@samenation4562 2 года назад
I have a Y Prem, I charge to 90% every 3-4 days. Might start to charge to 80% and see if that makes difference.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Yes do it!
@jeannelee5314
@jeannelee5314 3 года назад
Thank you. I live in a condo with 3rd party charging stations (not superchargers). I have been charging to 86-90% and as soon as level is reach, unplug my car and move to my parking spot. I note my battery drains about 8-10% in a 24 hour period when I did not drive at all. Any ideas? Seems a bit excessive. Sentry mode and climate are turned off. The information on battery health is very helpful.
@jt-rex6972
@jt-rex6972 3 года назад
Losing 8-10% in a 24 hr period without using Sentry or climate does seem excessive. I lose probably 1-2% per 24 hours. Also, something else might be keeping your car "awake" and not letting it sleep. You should contact your service center and they can run a diagnostic on your battery.
@ih2898
@ih2898 8 месяцев назад
Does this depend on battery chemistry? LFP or turnery? We are getting an M3 LR, and we would for most part be scenario 1. Never thought about the 50% happy point. I suppose at the start we will charge to 80% and as we get comfy with it, drop towards the 60%. With a home charger, what are your thoughts with regards to charging daily? For example charge to 60%, but the 40%-60% is good for my daily commute. Should I then charge daily to 60%, or 65%? Also, people need to keep in mind that the colder the winter, the more you will need to charge. so at 60% summer might be closer to 80% winter, if you are Canadian for example.
@jefferrrson1x
@jefferrrson1x 6 месяцев назад
Shorter cycles are typically better for the battery rather than 20-80% charge sessions. If you’re driving daily, I suggest keeping the car plugged in as much as possible when at home.
@henrywong8922
@henrywong8922 7 месяцев назад
Just bought Tesla Model Y 2024 Long range for 3 weeks but when charged 80% it goes to only 241 miles or 100% 302 miles only. I thought the range should go up to 310 - 330 miles when fully charged. Isn't tat a little too low for its harged range. Your opinion is appreciated... anything wrong there
@jefferrrson1x
@jefferrrson1x 6 месяцев назад
My MYLR has estimated range of 304. It’s more real world so you’re not alone on that. The 310-330 EPA range isn’t accurate for Teslas as its controlled environment.
@jeffreyontheway
@jeffreyontheway 8 месяцев назад
Brandon Driver, isn’t there a difference between the lithium battery and the other kind? Are these statements about rest and stress different depending on the type of battery?
@ngyheng
@ngyheng 4 месяца назад
Is it necessary to charge it to 100 percent once a week as recommended by Tesla for model 3
@gokaruna
@gokaruna 2 года назад
I am guessing it makes a difference if you live in a cold climate - especially in winter months when the car looses almost 40% of range. I mean you would want to charge it more than usual.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Yup, how much you need will change all the time. You'll need more energy with more passengers, heavier cargo, if you're using more energy for music/heat/AC, etc.
@johnsiotis8870
@johnsiotis8870 3 года назад
I am scenario 3,but I don’t charge 100% every day. My daily trip is about 120miles around trip. Model 3 LR. I usually have about 278@90%. When I get home I am down to about 150@50%. Sometimes I do that 6 days a week and let it sleep on Saturday afternoon when I get home and charge it on Sunday night to ready on Monday morning.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 3 года назад
Sounds like this is pretty good for your battery! I would recommend considering charging to less than 90% if you're arriving home consistently with 50%. If you're only using 40% of your battery daily (90% -> 50%), you might consider charging to 70%, as you'll keep it closer to half full throughout the day, ending with 30%. And of course charge it up extra the night before if you have to go shopping or need extra range.
@walkerb1734
@walkerb1734 2 года назад
I drive my Model S only about 20-30 miles per day on average. I keep my charge level at 55%. Works for me and my driving habits
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Well done!
@thatmankz_TTok
@thatmankz_TTok 2 года назад
this is also a Philosophy thought. The Golden line by I think Aristotle. the best outcome is between two extremes.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
I like this perspective, more wisdom than meets the eye
@Angeliavee
@Angeliavee 2 года назад
My current commute puts me somewhere in the middle. Sometimes I drive 100+ per day, sometimes it’s closer to 30-50. For the longer drives, I will charge to 90% and the shorter drive days will be 80% I don’t have the ability to charge at home, so on my days off, I let it get to 30% depending on if a work day will follow. To give you an idea: Delivery day- 3/12/22 4miles on odometer Currently- 1569mi as of 4/2/22
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
It sounds like you're managing your battery well. Well done!
@MrStlover99
@MrStlover99 3 года назад
I have a vending business and us a model y. I drive 100 to 200 miles per day and love speed so I'm charging almost everyday. How should I treat the battery? If I'm at 133 miles left and need 200 miles, can I charge just that ifni in a rush?
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Sure! If you need that range, don’t risk your day being affected by being too careful with how far you charge. But if you don’t need that range, then being careful will pay off in the long run.
@altor562
@altor562 2 года назад
Any insight on the amperage needed to use for home charging to keep the battery in a healthy state?
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Any amperage for home charging is okay!
@trinawestcoast8719
@trinawestcoast8719 2 года назад
I do not drive a lot. I work from home, but I live in an apartment complex so I am not able to charge everyday. What should I do? I just ordered my Model 3 last month???????
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Check out my last video on Apartment Charging!
@BrickBasherUK
@BrickBasherUK Год назад
I love how these cars are sold based on their 'long range' then as soon as you own one its a case of , please dont charge it so that you can use the long range or you'll fuck it. Brilliant
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver Год назад
More like don’t stress it if you don’t have to. Lots of people just don’t know better, hence this vid
@toddr.lockwood843
@toddr.lockwood843 3 года назад
Charging a Model 3 or Model Y to 70% or less for months on end can lead to cells getting out of sync. That is, some cells will contain more energy than others when charging stops. This is not particularly damaging, but it can lead to an inaccurate battery range indication on the touchscreen. Occasionally charging to 90 percent will level up the cells again. (Kim Java was the first RU-vidr to report this several years ago. She consulted with Tesla engineering on it.)
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 3 года назад
Doing a reset every few months will help this for sure! Will do more research.
@JoshuaParks
@JoshuaParks Год назад
I thought the reset happens by leaving the car with nothing running at/around 20%. I would imagine that the Tesla BMSs are pretty sophisticated and do a pretty good job of distributing the incoming energy throughout the cells - but there’s not arguing with scientific testing. I’ll be interested to learn more about energy distribution in the current and 4680 batteries
@reggie-ti2pc
@reggie-ti2pc 3 года назад
Great video. Thanks for the info. I have a 2019 M3 SR+. Started at 240 miles of range brand new - after 3 years (bought in 2018) I’m down to 221 total miles on a full charge - is that normal? Been charging every other day to 90%. Never really let the battery sit at 60%. Will try to do that. Will also only charge up to 70-80% from now on. Thank you again.
@DJQH
@DJQH 4 года назад
2nd. Driving about 50 - 60 miles a day regularly. Thanks! I'd been charging to 90 each night. Will lessen that significantly.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 4 года назад
Glad to hear it! Your car will thank you too.
@alexsmith6271
@alexsmith6271 Год назад
While making fun of everyone else providing misinformation, you're the one who's providing misinformation just as much. Degradation at 20% is lower than a 50%. There's not a problem going to 0% because a) your car limits the power and b) it protects the cells from the factory. Too bad someone paid you for this nonsense
@motivationinc6415
@motivationinc6415 2 года назад
Bro New tesla Battery will last you at least 20 years No matter what you’re going to do and how are you going to charge, Do you know what type of car are we going to have in 20 years?! You probably will Replace by that time your car 3 times so Don’t you worry guys about battery🤣
@mombasadele479
@mombasadele479 2 года назад
​ @Brandon Driver Some manufacturers, like Kia, recommends charging up to 100 once a month. Battery experts on youtube also says that charging to 100% isn't bad at all, since the SOC isn't really 100 because of the buffer. Dropping below 20 is bad though, and also just staying between 80-100. The latter is actually the worst. Make sure to use your car if charging to 100, and let it discharge to at least 50-60.
@seiferyentertainment9258
@seiferyentertainment9258 Год назад
Why is dropping below 20 bad? We go to 80% each day, and in the winter return home with 13-15% each day. Would charging to 90% and returning with 23-25% be better in your opinion?
@ngyheng
@ngyheng 4 месяца назад
I have model 3 can I charge 100 percent once a week?
@mannygiardina5128
@mannygiardina5128 3 года назад
Hi quick question my battery range Never went below 50% it’s a 2018 9000 miles are usually charge it from 70 to 90% is that healthy and 100% three times a year
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Definitely want to drop your charge level. If you’re only using 20% battery every day, I’d suggest charging it to 60%. If you ever need more range that day, you can increase it from your app before you leave.
@jacquespinard3663
@jacquespinard3663 3 года назад
but what about when temperatures goes way below in double digit degree Celcius ... isn't that a stress to the battery ? Shouldn't it be plugged in, configured and scheduled to charge to 80% or even 90% to counter act against the freezing cold... Plugged in .. while freezing cold should be the healthiest thing to do to avoid freezing and deteriorating the battery ... no ?
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 3 года назад
It’s especially important to leave the car plugged in when it’s hot or cold, so the Battery Management System can operate as intended keeping the battery at a safe level. The amount of charge doesn’t need to increase unless you need further range for the day.
@shamolshahran1570
@shamolshahran1570 3 года назад
@@BrandonDriver great answer.
@lbuzzy4961
@lbuzzy4961 2 года назад
I've had my Model Y LR for about a week. Thank you for the useful information. At this point, I'm probably in that middle use range. If I get a Cybertruck, I'll need to reassess usage, initially!!
@ronspollino5283
@ronspollino5283 2 года назад
Rocket Man -Great information Brandon- Question: When you leave your Tesla in a airport parking garage for 3 to 5 days what is the best practice to preserve your battery range .
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Hi Ron! Phantom drain can be as much as 10% per day if you leave Sentry Mode on and have people walking back and forth in front of the car all day, waking it up to record. If you turn everything off including sentry mode, it’ll drain much less, around 1-2% per day. If this is the route you take, I’d keep it under 80% and above 20% while you’re gone.
@maxx9384
@maxx9384 2 года назад
I recently was out of the country for 2 months and I left it at 70%. By the time I got back, it only lost 2%! Mind you, the car was at home where I leave sentry mode off. With sentry mode on, it probably would have drained the battery to 0..
@tollefz
@tollefz 3 года назад
Would be helpful if americans get up to date and talk in metric system. Many american does and metric makes sence :-) I heard it’s good for the batteri to «stress» it with 100% charge and drive it to 5% once in a while. What do you think and recomend?
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 3 года назад
I grew up in Canada, I love the metric system. I’ve heard the same that it’s healthy to do so, but haven’t been able to find confirmation of it yet.
@davidwebber8356
@davidwebber8356 3 года назад
@@BrandonDriver Cool..Where in Canada did you grow up?
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 3 года назад
@@davidwebber8356 Toronto!
@stuartmenzies3928
@stuartmenzies3928 2 года назад
Good effort...Im slighty still confused, but will follow your ideas as a retired very low driver.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Thank you, I hope it helps your battery health!
@TheAlexMistery
@TheAlexMistery 2 года назад
The info outdates almost every day. There are new types of batteries from Friemont factory that are recommended to be charged to 100% every day!
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Do you have a source where I can read more?
@Mudig
@Mudig 2 года назад
It's okay I leased this thing anyway so I'm not too bothered by it. I mean this is good to know for my future purchase of EV which won't be Tesla based on their crappy build and service. I'd probably go with a BMW EV next time.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
If it’s leased then you might see a little degradation by your 3rd year of ownership, but probably not much. What was your bad experience with service?
@Mudig
@Mudig 2 года назад
@@BrandonDriver They don't offer loaners and the wait time was 2 months.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
@@Mudig I’m sorry to hear it, what state are you in?
@Mudig
@Mudig 2 года назад
@@BrandonDriver Cali
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
@@Mudig I’ve heard that Cali is overpopulated with Teslas and service centers are swamped, here’s to hoping they can get that issue under control
@shadowmist4111
@shadowmist4111 2 года назад
Hello. I currently have a model S on pre-order. I'm a little concerned because the new Gemini One battery isn't THAT far off. I'm concerned that if I take delivery of my car the new battery will be out within one year. Is there any chance of this happening?
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
Hello Chris, there always is a chance of something new and better coming out after you purchase. It’s possible that there’s another startup company with a 1,000 mile battery out there that will be released after the ONE battery is commercialized. If you’re happy with the specs that are available now for the Model S, go with the purchase. If not, wait. Tesla is good at keeping their upgrades secret until they happen.
@alexanderjohn5628
@alexanderjohn5628 2 года назад
⬆️👆👆👆helped me out now my problem has been solved
@so4real
@so4real 2 года назад
The percentage Guage is more nerve wrecking to me. I drove from. New Jersey to Philadelphia starting at 90% and I was at 31% when I got there. Did not believe I would make it home. I used up 20% percent looking for a supercharger. The first one had a Chevy Silverado parked in the charging spot . Mine is a 2014 Model S. I still have a warranty on the battery until may of 2022. I wonder if I should be eligible for a replacement battery. I just don't trust it being actual.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
You can always schedule a service request through your Tesla app and ask them to remotely check the battery health!
@grantbarnes3678
@grantbarnes3678 7 месяцев назад
Credentials? Sources?
@ONTODABALL
@ONTODABALL Год назад
Is this video still accurate being 2 years old, with the progress in tech? Maybe a new video is needed if not? Great video anyhow, thanks
@motivationinc6415
@motivationinc6415 2 года назад
My biggest question is when you charge for full why is it takes so long time Why car slows down charging Kwt’s?
@ToreOnYouTube
@ToreOnYouTube 3 года назад
My scenario: Work Monday to Friday. Most weekends spend at partners house. Monday-Thursday: 30 miles Charging at work, locked to 60% Friday at work: 15 miles to work Charge to 80% 150 miles to partner Charge to 70% at Supercharger underway after 100 miles Sunday: Same as Friday just the other way around, end up home with around 60% battery.
@isodynamicenterprise
@isodynamicenterprise 4 года назад
We've already talked but with me I would fall in 2.5. I drive for Uber eats and that's between 130 to 200 miles a day. So I will put that Tesla through it's paces and being that I live in a cold climate during the winter months I will definitely charge the car up to 80-90% everyday.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 4 года назад
Absolutely. And Teslas get better range in city driving, all thanks to regenerative braking. You should have plenty to work with!
@isodynamicenterprise
@isodynamicenterprise 4 года назад
@@BrandonDriver Yeap. Once I get mine, my1st project is to master one pedal driving.
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 4 года назад
@@isodynamicenterprise One-pedal driving is probably the weirdest part of learning a Tesla, and in my opinion the coolest. I think you'll love it, and I think you'll pick it up in no time. You should record yourself and the learning process!
@SHNAKZ69
@SHNAKZ69 Год назад
literally noone keeps thier tesla at 60% lol
@kriswempa5171
@kriswempa5171 4 месяца назад
I'm glad I watched this video. I should have my new Model Y within the next week and there is quite a lot to learn about charging these vehicles. I will be using it for daily commutes of about 30 total miles. We also have a couple of vacations this year, one about 150 miles away and another 350 miles away. I'll probably start with charging to 80% daily. For the trips, I'll do 100% to get a feel for how much extra mileage I get. I'm sure I'll make adjustments as I get more familiar with the car.
@junkmail5510
@junkmail5510 2 года назад
I drive 25mi one way to work, 2 days a week - so on those days keeping it at 80% then other days 60% - does this seem all right?
@BrandonDriver
@BrandonDriver 2 года назад
This sounds good to me! How low does your battery get on the days where you charge it to 80%? If you start the day at 80% and end it at 60% (using 20% total for the day), it would be better for you to charge it to 60% and wear it down to 40% and keep it closer to halfway throughout the entire day.
@FOKKEZEIL87
@FOKKEZEIL87 Год назад
Golden rule to charge a tesla: Charge from 50% to 70% and never go below 50% for longevity Second rule is: never go more then 20% below 50% and never go more then 20% above 50%. From 50% to 70% there is almost no resistance in the battery so there wil be no wear and there in that part of the battery. Beter go below 50% then above 70%. But no more then 40%. Important: charge your tesla every 2monds to 100% to balance the battery pack and don,'t let it sit there you have to bring down your battery quikly to 50%. And charge youre tesla only Just before the trip to 70% Frienly greetings: from Herman from the Netherlands
@soniaferrufino5712
@soniaferrufino5712 2 года назад
Thank you handsome, you saved my day.
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