This explains a lot and the entertainment district arc of demon slayer Overall makes more sense as well. There's the walk and the the kamuro as well as some children with the oirans in the anime don't get explained but they do explain what a oiran is in a line .... that is in a way they tell they are ideal people. The main trio tanjiro inosuke and zenitsu being picked up to be oirans and the matrens I guess those ladies were proclaiming that they would be future insurance etc. Thanks a lot shogo
They don't explain those in the anime because it is common knowledge that almost all Japanese know through history classes at school. The anime is created for the Japanese audience after all. It is the same as Western movies. For example, there is no explanation about cowboys, sheriff, US government system, etc. so Asians that watch those movies have to do some research about them.
This puts a lot of the Kimetsu no Yaiba scenes of the recent arc into proper context. So the the little girls serving the Oirans were Kamuro. It also shows the hachi monji walk
The tradition has NOT ended. Still happening today. Check Wikipedia and other sources online for details. Sorry to shatter the dream. He also doesn't share it in a way that really condemns it either. Just objectively talks about it, even going so far as to say the Oirain were also considered "ideal woman". Many men are not against going to those places (39% have admited to paying for it) and treat woman only as valuable to them as they are useful. My friend is a Japanese housewife and she says they are generally looked down on (and it doesn't take long to realize how very little gender equality there is here in Japan). When I asked her if she's scared her husband will go to those places she simply said "as long as I don't find out". My other friend says her bf goes to those places because "men have needs". I was shocked but she just looks the other way it seems and many woman here do. I've heard many other stories. Those areas are still big here today. And many are not legal.
your content is really interesting. Although the life conditions of these women were awful, we need to know their stories so we can learn from the past.
Yes I concur I'm intrigued. Please tell us about the lives of Kagema. Also since the subject is related to gay men could you explain some term that homosexual men are called. I'm aware of the slur "okama" and would like to hear the history of its usage in today's Japan and in the past.
It's so fascinating that everyday customs in periods of Japanese history have become so ritualized and steeped in ceremonial traditions. I remember reading that the geisha first became popular when people had become tired of the oiran and found them too formal and old-fashioned, I was amazed just because nowadays the geisha is also such an old tradition.
I'd love to hear about what happened during the transition period, after the anti- prostitution laws were enacted. Thank you for such interesting historical information.
What would happen if an Oiran became pregnant? I imagine Oiran would have limited clientele, so knowing who the father was would be much easier, so were the children still as doomed if they lived? If Oiran were so well revered, would the men want to keep the sons? And would daughters have a higher chance of becoming an Oiran vs other girls?
I know some very famous Oirans in history ended up marrying former clients so I assume at least the sons would have a better future than slavery since I can’t imagine they harming the body of one after investing so many time and resources for each Oiran.
if they are pregnant it depends on the house owner... Either the oiran could be kicked out, or the baby will sent to other family to take care of them... or the baby will be kept around, and when they grow up they can work as servant or another pr0stitute. Or the very sad result... they will be get an ab*rti*n either willingly or by force . . but mostly oiran and other pr0stitutes will drink a certain herbal potion (morning pills back in the day) to prevent the pregnancy after having an s3xual intercourse
It would mostly have depended on the men that had been with her - some of them may have liked the woman and been willing to marry “their Oiran” and keep the child, other men would have said to “get rid of it” in which case they would drink a tea/elixir of something like Rue or Neem (these can trigger menstruation/abortion). They may have also kept the pregnancy hidden for as long as possible and then “been too ill to see others” for a few months once she got too big to hide it/birth the baby, then the baby could be raised by her family or other prostitutes in her “house”. They may have also regularly taken something like Hibiscus-Rosa or Tulsi that work by preventing menstruation/implantation. There was also other methods like using water to “rinse out” after the man had left.
Not entirely true, Oiran were considered celebrities and fashion trend setters, it was part of their style and commoners started reverted their obi tie to the back when Geisha were created, since they did that to differentiate themselves from Oiran
I suddenly remember Mio from the anime Dororo when you talks about Yotaka. It seem really sad tho like Mio also go around in Night or ask warriors you know to be her guess and end up treating her like a garbage. Also the Kagema is so interesting. I hope you make video of it soon.
Yes Dororo (I'll refer to the 2019 though the original is worth a watch) they did not romanticize anything about the era. You felt the "walking on eggshells" feeling if you weren't in a town already decimated. There was so much cruelty, much of it needed just to survive. And poor Mio. She was so strong and did not deserve getting caught in the middle like that. I wish she hadn't jumped sides to get money faster-i wish she didn't have to go through that at all...
Haha I lived in Shinmachi in Osaka for four years, I only found out it had been a historical red light district when I tried to look up old photos of my street and saw historical photos with the telltale window grates and written explanations. It was a fun thing to know, I guess, but sad considering the history.
Please do another video about all the ranks and kinds of yujyos! I'd love to know more about the Kagema, and maybe you could also clarify more about Oiran? I have read that there are multiple ranks within the Oiran rank, like Tayu and Sancha, but that a lot of people use the terms Oiran and Tayu interchangeably without realizing it doesn't mean quite the same thing. I'd also be really curious to know what happens when Oiran get old, or sick! Thanks for the video!
Great content! ^^ congratulations! In Fritz Lang's Metropolis (1927) the party place where rich men went to gamble and such, was called Yoshiwara. Now I understand it all!
I was looking for a comment mentioning this. In the Thea Von Harbou short novel that inspired the movie, Yoshiwara has a larger role in moving along the plot. I have always found these kind of connections very intriguing.
Fantastically informative as usual! Please speak a little about what is known about the "average" citizens attitudes towards the common prostitutes in relation to basic moral attitudes and the family units? Were they scorned and thought of as detrimental to families by wives etc?
I am very grateful that you make this content about your culture and traditions. The content is presented is such a well organised and respectable manner. I am Zulu from South Africa and I have been drawn to Japanese culture and have been inspired to learn your language and cultures. Hopefully one day my learning will serve me well when I visit your country. I wish you all the best.
Interesting! A lot of new information for me, especially the Yotaka, Kagema--and the monks! Wow. Yes, please do a video about the Yotaka and Kagema as well. Mahalo!
I did the oiran experience, have some awesome pics 😊 I felt the prettiest dressed up with the full make up and hairdo. The kimono was sooo heavy and the shoes hard to stand on, can't imagine how it was to wear it daily.
Watching Kimetsu no Yaiba Entertainment District and everything about it makes sense. Well for the Oiran Part. I thought it was just an addition to the anime but its an actual Japanese culture lasting 3 decades. Its just proves that we have more to learn and thanks to Demon Slayer we have an actual presentation on how this culture work. Thanks Shogo🤗😁
A culture that's still alive here today, although just renamed. If you look at how big the redlight districts here are and look even a little bit closer. You'll find this exact same thing still happening today. If you don't believe me, visit Japan, or check online, Wikipedia etc. And you can also watch a video on RU-vid about the "#1 hostess in Japan". She has pretty much the exact same role. She can show away men she doesn't like, she's extremely expensive, and since she's "acquainted" with her clients, sleeping with them is not illegal and actively encouraged by her company... It's a nice loophole because they are obviously not just paying for her chit-chat but it looks like that on paper. See the vid for details. She however did seem to choose the job, but there are still many woman here that for various reasons, didn't choose it. "Lower ranking" than her. Some interesting extra info ^^
This was super interesting, I'd never thought that the red light disctricts go back that far and have such specific historical and cultural implications
I'm here after watching Kimetsu no yaiba yukaku hen. This Oiran procession was shown there. Your content is so explanatory and interesting!!!!! Thank you!
don't know what happened to RU-vid. These oiran videos are being recommended a lot after watching demon slayer. Just got oiran procession in edumora a few days ago. RU-vid knows what I'm doing
I would love to learn more about the yotaka and the kagema!! I appreciate the sympathetic way in which you presented the topic. PD. Men who work as prostitutes are called male prostitutes.
@@gangurogeisha as far as I could find, prostitute is mostly used and associated with women, which is why the term male prostitute is used as well. But you are correct in that the term is not gendered. I guess history has made it seem more female centric.
You know your audience hella well when you talk about things, anything anime influences other nations to be HIGHLY interested about japan And yes, due to many many anime, manga, games i do know what they are, which of course does catch my curiosity and turns it into interest Thank you for the video, and honestly japan should be proud of having anime, it honestly is 1 of the greatest things ever!
@@kookykoruc1827 It is similar to what catholics did. Since contact with women was forbidden they slept with "boys" aka make prostitutes. And they thought it is not a sin as long as they are not sleeping with women 😑
That's why I really love kimetsu no yaiba because it shows the culture of japan. And also thanks for making this content. Living here in Japan is getting more interesting because of your vlogs.
Not even a year ago you had the goal to achieve 10.000 subscribers. I'm so happy you have achieved so much since then. Thank you for your dedication! As a student of Japanese, I enjoy a lot your content. もう一度心から感謝します！
There were reports that some former Oiran and people who worked with them work at places that do Oiran parades and other traditional theme parks so it’s re-enacted properly
This is the first time I heard about the Kagema and it was really interesting to hear. It would be great if you would be able to make a video about this topic.
@@opal_lizer2753 My studies were back in 1990. We were only taught conversational Nihingo. The class wanted to be able to read as well. We were expected to know about a thousand kanji.
I find this very interesting as I had been watching the new season of Demon Slayer which takes place in one of these ‘red light districts’ and knowing this information makes a lot of things clearer
I grew up in Kyoto and sometimes went to Gion district to admire the kimono-clad Maiko and Geisha. Probably saw the oiran walk parade. Didn't really understand at the time what this represented. Very interesting and informative. Would love to learn more about the Tagema.
I really enjoy your shows. Could you have a show about Noh theatre. Also the theatre with the puppets where men are dressed in black controlling the puppets. I forgot the name. Also the tea ceremony. Thank you for your informative shows. Grandmom from Philly, USA
that's where MoaG gets some of its ideas from. Specifically, the onsen geisha who held double registries as geisha and yujo. There's a book about this by Sayo Masuda who herself was sold into one of these places and kept as a sex worker with double licenses as geisha & prostitute.
I Loved how kny showed us this part of the culture, Ive seen some things about oirans Before but with this video I learnt many mind blowing facts. Thank you!
most of the people got this on there yt front page because most of them are demon slayer fans. I dont know about Japanese culture but in our culture it says that monks cant have any kind of sexual interaction if they dont want a rebirth into a cruel world.
I really enjoyed this, especially the end part on yotaka and kagema, super infomative. I hope this doesnt come off as condescending, but Oiran wouldn't have learned shamisen. She would have learned kokyu, koto, and hand drum, much in the style of the Tayu. Other than that, this is very spot on. Keep up the great work
I just started watching this guys videos and I’m loving it! I love everything about Japanese religion, and japan itself. I’m only part Japanese but even If I have a little bit of it I want to know everything about Japan
There's an awesome movie about this topic with Anna Tsuchiya in the main role. It's called "Sakuran" for anyone who's interested, I can definitely recommend it..!!
