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@@magiccloud3074 you might enjoy this video about mental health, focused on young people in the context of climate.... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v44AcIegU7g.html It's dark, but worth understanding, especially if you have young ones in your life! I agree a video about this could be useful, but it probably needs more time than the usual 8 or 9 minutes this channel usually dedicates... But I would say that about all things climate change, personally.
I dont know if you have read a book called the end of the line. If you have not I am thinking it might be worth a read. Its an older book but brings up some other really good points.
I support Sea Shepherd because they are a direct action organization working to limit illegal fishing. Does anyone else have recommendations for good ocean charities?
@@nitharshnirajagopal4575 As a studying marine scientist I want to emphasize however that while Seaspiracy is a great documentary that exemplifies the issues of the ocean currently, there is a great amount of forced information that was extremely cherry-picked for the documentary. I do support the purpose of the documentary but make sure to do full research on the great parts (what their goals are and how productive they are) and the worst parts (where does their funding really go, are they supportive of all cultural sustainable practices) of different charities.
It’s mind-boggling how some people critisize and avoid using plastic to save the fish in the ocean, but don’t think about not eating fish to save fish.
"competitive markets create incentives to expand production regardless of resource decline" that's the relationship between capitalism and the environment in general and is the reason as to why capitalism is inherently unsustainable. and regulations are no solution to that. all they can do is to somewhat suppress symptoms for a period.
Truth! Unfortunately, socialism doesn't fix this either. Only an environmentally conscious resource based economy makes sense if we actually want nature (and therefore ourselves) to survive
@@MattAngiono I mean, that's pretty much what ecosocialism and social ecology are about. Socialism isn't just Soviet-style extractivism, it's a huge and diverse body of work and ideas.
@@ZayanK I realize that. In many ways, I would say I believe in socialist ideas. But in general, it's still based in profit motive and consumption driven. Plus, it's been spread so thin in different variations that no one really knows the meaning. I think a new system and terminology would be better that doesn't have all the baggage. It's not just economics in need of reform either. The meta-crisis is also about meaning and making sense of the world, so new philosophy is part of what is needed as well. I'm not saying I have all the answers nor do I think anyone can. We still need some kind of community or democracy that takes many cooperative minds to figure out. It's really unprecedented that we've had this much knowledge and power with so much division between us. The solution will also have to involve some way of us realizing that we will never be entirely happy with whatever happens. Politics is always about perpetual annoyance, in the words of Jaron Lanier.... I think that's a pretty good assessment
Or we make it much more simple, stop eating fish. If the demand in fish goes down fishing in such high Volume isn't profitable anymore. Stop thinking that the world needs a new System, it's just the people that life in our current system who make wrong moralic decisions that harm our Planet. It's like Drugs, if governments ban it, people who really want it will find a way to get it. So we don't need regulations if more people will just make a right choice and lower their consumption.
@@MattAngiono Well as far as i know the more "general" type of socialism is not at all profit and consumption driven. It's just driven to benefit both the state and its people while the people also have more power in case something goes wrong. So i'm guessing eco-socialism is that but also with care for the envoirment so more regulations.
Ah yes, attack people for what they normally eat, it's not like human nature has got the instinct to naturally do the opposite of whoever hostile to them or wants.
I can't express the amount of appreciation that I have for this channel. Such imperative information.. You guys & Second Thought are my utmost favorite channels. 💯 #ThankYou ❤
We need more and more sea sanctuaries protected sea areas and ban excessive fishing.( I see in documentary tuna lobby have 10 years tuna stock but they killing much tuna)
This is the best video I have seen as part of (or mentions) #TeamSeas. The root of the plastic problem and the ecological destruction is a symptom of over consumption and unnecessary commercialization and the only real solution is cultural shift to anti-consumerism and the end of the growth economy. Its not enough to simply pull plastic out of the ocean, we need to stop it at the source and make the world easy to live in without the need to consume so much, and eliminate the use of all single use plastics. Improving waste management in poor countries isn't as valuable as helping those countries stop producing that waste in the first place (let alone the elephant in the room, which is a lot of the garbage that makes it to those poor countries are imported from rich ones).
One fallacy I noticed within your comment is the idea of degrowth. It’s not necessary: “In the past many macroeconomists considered the need to cut emissions as a drag on the economy that lowers economic growth. This idea, that decarbonisation of our economies conflicts with economic growth, is still shared by many.12 But this is no longer the mainstream view. The latest annual IMF report estimates that policies, including carbon pricing, that mitigate climate change actually increase economic growth over the coming decades.13 This means that there is no trade-off between fighting climate change and economic growth. Fighting climate change is a way to achieve more growth.14 From the responses to my recent writing on the need of growth for ending poverty I saw that some people have not caught up with this. Fighting climate change is not just compatible with fighting poverty, the two goals - to reduce emissions and to increase economic growth - actually strengthen each other. It is very good news that fighting climate change is expected to increase growth over the coming decades, but the benefits to climate mitigation are larger than just additional growth: it also means a modernisation of key infrastructure, faster innovation, the protection of the biosphere on our planet, and the major health benefits of reduced air pollution caused by burning fossil fuels, including millions of lives saved. Taking both the costs and benefits into account makes a very clear argument for climate action now. Putting a price on carbon to build a low-carbon world is an investment for a much better future.” SOURCE: “The argument for a carbon price” - “Our World in Data”
@@LeanAndMean44 I am always going to advocate for slowing western economies regardless if its necessary or not, there are a lot of factors outside of just ecological and climate issues when it comes to our current societies dependence on consumerism, such as psychological, psychological, and equality reason. Corporations will (and do) work people to death if they are allowed to. I am aware that if countries invested in cleaner energy sources, and new better sustainable practices that this will in the short term grow economies. That's fantastic that means that there should in theory be a lot of high paying and good jobs. At the same time even if its technically possible to correct the issue with only new technology, its way more feasible to correct the issues by ending our conspicuous consumption, and using these new technologies to produce what we need in more sustainable ways. I hope that we can make regulations to put a cap on really disgusting corporate practices, end aggressive marketing and corporate schemes that optimize for profit and ecological destruction (like planned obsolescence, stop using "green washing" campaigns as justification to pollute more and pushing the need for more and more single use items). I am also advocating for economic stabilization increasing profit Quarter over Quarter is insane, realistically there is an economic wall somewhere and continuing to pretend like we can (as a species) solve issues that are fundamentally about over consumption by consuming more is insane. We managed to get ourselves as a species onto a path towards auto-extinction in less than 300y (really the bulk of the problems are from the last 50 years and Majority of the accumulated manufactured plastics are produced in the year you are studying it). Strangely before humanity started to extract resources without concern for the environment we weren't at risk of ecological collapse on literally every continent on the planet. I am not stating that economic stabilization, the end of the growth economy, or economic contraction is necessary to solve the climate problem. Just that for me it is preferable and as far as I can tell its the best solution to our current set of predicaments. New technologies aren't going to slow the extinction rate of other species and bring back the marine diversity that many food webs rely on, even if they do solve the climate crisis. Conspicuous consumption is a threat to every living thing and right now we are just playing whack-a-mole of trying to use technology to solve problems we already have solutions to.
“Our World in Data” published their new work on global fish stocks and overfishing some weeks ago. It’s very informative and has visualizations. I can see you included it as one of your sources in the document linked in the description. Great Video!
Not that it's a climate-based movie in the slightest but Jiro, Dreams of Sushi was pretty wild; in terms of the footage of these super big tuna and other giant fish that used to be harvested on the regular. Now their average size dwarfs what they could and used to be. Overharvesting to the max
At this point, ALL fishing is overfishing! You can't really distinguish anymore. I understand people who literally need to do it to survive, but for everyone else paying for dead fish, this is something you are contributing to directly. You can't just blame fishermen, but must look at what drives their demand as well. "Sustainable fishing" is a big lie by these capitalist profiteers
Here's something interesting about all complex systems and how they can sometimes collapse. There are so called "bifurcation" points, essentially threshold levels for any parameter that define a complex system. Let's take the Atlantic cod population system as an example. If all parameters are equal but the cod population is declining steadily by say 50k per year, it might still look like it's recovering somewhat every year, but once it's passed below 200k (a hypothetical bifurcation point), it just can't reach the critical mass to bounce back and the population just quickly dies off. There can be any number of parameters that define the system, such as the number of cods, the number of predators, sea temperature, how much fisheries catch, etc. Not all matter enough to have bifurcations, but many do. What's interesting is that a system can be stable and not have any significant shifts until one of the parameters crosses a bifurcation point, and suddenly the whole system just spirals out of control, which normally means that it vanishes.
What's holding you back on the last 3%? It's not that hard to become fully vegan, and then you can much more effectively advocate for animals including fish. People generally don't want to listen to anyone showing signs of hypocrisy, so it's much more effective when you're internally consistent. Still, you are doing better than most, so kudos for that at least
@@magiccloud3074 how about you? Plants are generally cheaper than animals anyway. The only reason they sometimes aren't is subsidies, because growing them is far less intensive and determinedly to the environment. That's why most meat is consumed in rich countries. If you literally have no choice, then obviously I'm not speaking about you, but for everyone else, there's simply no excuse.... it's abuse
@@magiccloud3074 I think you should watch this video by a climate scientist.... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mmNcOCwtFeg.html The main thing to remember about veganism is that it's really about the animals. What we do to them is horrific and speaking ethically, it needs to stop! There's really no way to take a life that isn't abuse, because they obviously can't give consent, so even the very few that live good lives don't deserve what happens to them. Most animals that are used for food are tortured their entire lives, living a real life holocaust.... I get the thing about wasting food, I think that's bad too, but once you start seeing that animals really aren't your food, that whole mentality changes. I worked at a BBQ for a decade before this, so it's not like I was a Saint. I just could see that being ethically consistent about protecting nature really meant not eating sentient creatures.... ever! I hope you can see how much different it is when you commit to it. Who knows, your change could even spark new changes in your family if they see your committed! I know that's not likely, but you can't know until trying. Someday, we should all see that animals don't deserve this, and if you're compassionate enough to know vegetarian is a step in the right direction, why not just go all the way?
@@magiccloud3074 I don't believe that at all. What can you not get on plant based diets than you get in a omnivorous diet? Similarly monetary reason is just so insane to list as a reason to not go vegan, you know that not eating meat is seen as a sign of poverty right? All poor people in developing countries have very meat poor diets because they can not afford meat. To say that staple plant foods are expensive compared to meat is insane. Just compare how much legumes cost compared to beef, pork, chicken etc. Veganism is not expensive. Only if you go heavy on the processed stuff and want to buy every single fake meat alternative out there. It's literally the poverty diet.
Really great video as always - I just discovered your channel recently and I've been binge-watching all your videos! This topic is particularly relevant for me, because I've always lived close to and been in love with the ocean. Right now I work for an environmental charity, and I wanted to talk about our work because I think it builds upon the topic this video is addressing. 50% of the planet is high seas - that is, marine areas that do not belong to any country - areas beyond national jurisdiction. Under the law of the sea convention, these areas are the common heritage of mankind - so in a way they belong to everyone, but they are some of the least protected ecosystems in the world. This is because it's extremely difficult to introduce governance and management measures - because when a regional body exists over a certain area of the high seas (eg NAFO), or a particular species on the high seas (eg. ICCAT) - that body is made up of signatories of many states, and reaching consensus can be very difficult. The other problem is - there are huge governance gaps in the high seas, where no organisation has competency/authority over certain areas, and we have very little idea of what kind of exploitation is going on there. When protection mechanisms are introduced on the high seas, the next hurdle is enforcement - it will take a huge amount of finance to introduce technologies that allow high seas areas to actually be 'patrolled' to enforce, eg. no fishing zones, or whatever kind of management is deemed necessary. Like action on climate change, action to protect the ocean is an inherently international issue - especially for the high seas where we are yet to have a legally binding management mechanism. This is changing though - the UN is currently negotiating a legally binding instrument for the high seas - so the outcome from that will be very interesting.
Go vegan for your health, whole food plant based. Go vegan for the animals. Go vegan for the planet. A lower risk of heart disease and cancer for you and a better planet for everyone, human and animals.
Really big problem here too. So It is illegal to use a net that can catch little fish/non mature fish. The punishment used to be very lenient, but right now. It's become stricter. People can't complain if sea police sunk their boat.
Hello, without meaning to disrespect, I would like to know why you always mention indigenous people as the saviours of the environment. Aren't they just people? Or is there a relation between being indigenous and knowing how to save the planet?
Indigenous cultures fished sustainably, though it may have largely been due to lower populations rather than knowledge and methods. But this channel will often put left wing politics and anti-colonialism first and check the science later.
so when agribusinesses are destroying the soil with their pesticides and chemical fertilizers, what will we do then? stop eating altogether or will they have created soylent green by then? or did you think everyone would start a compost pile and grow their own? if so, what do people in apartments do? i guess we die.
@@wilsonpickett6317 I agree with you that industrial agriculture is problematic for these - and other - reasons, but that only strengthens the point op was making, since most of the world's agricultural production is in service of animal ag. So however which way you look at it, getting away from animal products on as large a scale as possible - as walter points out in the comment before yours it's not feasible for everyone to be completely vegan - is beneficial to the planet. I think we'll agree that personal behaviour changes themselves cannot solve the systemic, manifold problems in global capitalism, but in my opinion they still are an integral part of raising awareness of solutions - especially when they have other benefits, as I'd argue going vegan can have
I know you like your creator friendly nebula streaming thing, but how exactly are you appeasing the yt algorithm by cutting useful information out and replacing it with an ad?
One of the worst things to happen to marine ecosystems is commercial fishing. I can't imagine big fishing conglomerates stopping their destructive practices until it's no longer profitable.
@@magiccloud3074 even if it leads to depression, apathy, paranoia or what have you .. a lot of the science and reality is showing signs of near term collapse. That is why, the fish are dead (well most of them) Remember nature bats last
@@magiccloud3074 If one measures, according to Marine biologists - fish and aquatic population is falling, way faster than regeneration. Also a lot of the alive and reproducing fish have plastic in them - perhaps we do too ?!
Now this is the kind of content that the whole world need to see and know more about!!! Save the planet not only for ourselves but for our children and future generations 💙
Industrial revolution, mass production, technological and medical advancement, lesser wars, lower disease fatality, better human survival and longer life expectancy and growing population means increasing demands for various resources from the planet.
All I see, everywhere, every day, is The Tragedy Of The Commons. Analogy in TED Ed video on TOTC is literally about people overfishing. "Humans have OVERRUN the planet" - David Attenborough "Capitalism at all costs, will cost us everything" - me 🙂
I’m an activist and love your channel but I find myself fed up by watching your videos I watch them for the algorithm and the cause but it feels tiering The problem is that you take on issues I and a lot of people know and in that case the video gets really long really quickly I’d suggests a more fast paced approche abridging recurring themes (but NOT cutting them out as they are the core of the crisis) or maybe a shorter form Also now that I think about it please use RU-vid Shorts they are extremely praised by the algorithm Your content is still excellent and I hope you’ll think about this comment as it’s not really about the algorithm but more about how to catch people’s attention and get to a different demographic #ForTheFuture
My dad said thinks your videos are making me an extremely radical conservationist. You have done a good job, but I may have went too far saying that everyone should die to him when his dad is a priest.
Can nutritionists also stop recommending fish as a good source of protein? Or at least recommend fish as a once in a while treat, like they do with beef? I'm sure there are some out there that do this, but I still see a lot of dieting articles that list it as a healthy source of protein. It needs to come off the table for a while.
That's because nutritionist they're not Dietitians and pretty everyone can be a nutritionist. It's not an actual protected title. So any can label themselves a nutritionist.
I studied nutrition and we were told we have to recomend fish once a week!? Our country doesnt have a sea, imagine the how many fishes it is if everyone did it :( and also the transport
I remember that's exactly what I was pushed into when I stated to my nutritionist I wanted to become vegan. Eventually I just ignored her and did it anyway. I'm healthier than ever, although nature around me is suffering immensely
Our environmental knowledge has an impact on the world, good or bad. It's so sad seeing fishers only caring about their lives other than any of the ocean creatures :((! This is just so unfair and unjust! We cannot just invade the fishes and their lives. Humans need to change, and we all need to make big ones too. Our planet is dying, and no one is bothering to help. Everyone thinks they have better lives, but when the Earth dies out completely, we all know we won't survive. FOR LIFE!
Warmly recommended: "The once and future world" by JB MacKinnon and "Feral" by George Monbiot. Both books are about rewilding, and have a few chapters about the sea that are insanely amazing and give hope.
Just wanted to comment and praise the overall really good production quality of this video (and others I have seen from this channel). The motion design work at the 03:40 mark, for example, is a thing of beauty. Keep it up!
Watch DW Planet A on overfishing, our noise is killing marine life, ships dumping their bilge into the oceans, and mining the sea floor. Watch NHK Japan Zero Waste on zako, and Mossy Earth on salmon. Watch Atlas Pro on aquaculture. Some fishers drag giant nets on the sea floor and destroy it. Some fishers accidentally catch animals they don't want in their nets and let them die instead of throwing them back into the sea right away. Spill has videos on restaurants throwing away tons of good food daily. Jarvis Johnson has a video called wasting food for clout. Those animals were killed and farmed for nothing. 2:09 Even if people like fishers or companies were greedy and selfish, wouldn't they want to protect the planet and animals to protect their resources? And to protect people and their health and financial stability to have customers and customers to be able to afford their products. Maybe it's kind of good if people do more things by themselves then they could see the planet and animals for themselves and take care of it more. Versus being distanced ,detached, and blindly trusting customers outsourcing things too much to companies who might be corrupt, greedy, or destroy the environment.
Man, i see no problem in the guy that wakes up and goes fishing to survive, anything else is greedy and dangerous for our planet. Great video by the way.
How are we going to take the step from teaching people about these catastrophies to actually having a real movement to force the capitalist imperialism to change.
Coral reefs are also endangered, mass bleaching has become a regular occurrence, we lose the reefs that would pretty much destroy entire ecosystems in the oceans
Thank you for covering this crucial topic. I wish you would cover the damage the seafood industry is doing. And don't be so shy to encourage your first-world viewers to boycott the seafood industry, which is one of many much needed steps. Switch to plants-based foods. Your description of Capitalism and markets as being evil is not the same description used by Libertarian and Anarchist circles. The current system is far from what we would want. Profit for endless exploitation is not what we advocate.
AnCaps want no government, which is either impossible or is just feudalism. You need a government if you’re going to have private property rights. And as long as you incentivize profit, this is exactly what you get, unless you have sufficient regulations. These are not the things that Libertarians want, they advocate for very little government intervention in almost all aspects of life. I’m not here to change your mind or anything, but I’m thinking maybe it might be time to at least start reading literature from other ideologies. At least look into what solutions we offer.
If we dont need to eat fish and have access to a plant based alternatives such as beans, lentils, chickpea, seitan, TVP, tofu etc, then we ought not to violate the fishes autonomy as fishes are sentient beings like us, because of this they can suffer, form relationships, feel complex and for that they deserve respect and consideration above sensory pleasure. I say we ought be vegan if we can.
I don't agree with your assement that the technologies of overfishing are rooted in the market, or that competition is driving what is essentially an all out war against fish waged by international criminals. The extraction of primary commodities like fish, oil, rock minerals, and data- is driven by exspansion and monopolization. I explained in my other post how overfishing and extractive capitalism are rooted in euro-american war-making. (btw, so is settler-colonialism, genocide, heavy industries, high technology, modern methods of construction, carbon liberation, energy power-politics, and all that has been annihilated to build this world through the creative destruction of war.) Sonar was invented by the military, so was the nylon for the fishing nets, fleet building methods, oil fueled marine transport and supply chain logistics, i dont know yet but probably the cryogenics used to freeze fish as well. military technoscience is behind it all, which isn't surprising, because industrialists are behind modern military technoscience. Hunting fish isn't too much different than hunting U-boats, even the way this cartographic violence is perpetrated takes the form of war. a super trawler is just a battleship with an odd weapon.
Climate change and mass extinction arent caused by capitalism, capitalism is just one of many tools to violently take what isn't yours, the business end of the sword that gave 'us' all those things we depend on for 'peace' and prosperity
Again, some good content but you're too far left and it makes you less convincing. Can you propose solutions that start with the science rather than retrofitting them all around campus socialist talking points? We've seen that literal communism doesn't in and of itself protect the environment (look at the USSR and China under Mao), so try grapple with the actual environmental issues more please.
Find another person. Individually add up how much it costs to sustain you and/or your lifestyle and combine what’s left over with them and have them do the same. Each taking turns in spending every other payday. Your jobs will provide the income and the combined surplus will make it easier to pursue hobbies or climb the societal ladder. Including more and more people will add to the over all supply that each person in the network will have access to, thereby compounding the process. For added security (insurance) have each person in the network find others to rely on. With that you’ll have overlapping security. Supplant anything of value to you personally for the “income” portion and as long as you’re covering for yourself first and foremost, all goods (including for luxury) will get distributed across a wider system in accordance to how you relate to other people. Use cost cutting measures to increase any holdings and share information. With that added insurance, use any and all surplus to invest in people most capable of bringing about change, including local chapters and environmental projects. Tell them about this process and aid them in building up a web of support and you can scale up any system, company or self-governance
