⭐️ Buy the Logitech Combo Touch Keyboard: geni.us/L47Cf (affiliate) ⭐️ Buy the Apple Magic Keyboard 2021: geni.us/UQ2p9 (affiliate) What's up everyone?! I hope this comparison of the 2021 Apple Magic Keyboard and the Logitech Combo Touch was helpful. Did I cover what you wanted to know? What else did you want to see or learn about? Would love to know what you think. Which board do you like better?
Does the new Logitech Combo Touch fit the 2018 iPad Pro 12.9? On Logitech's site they state that it is compatible with the 2021 iPad Pro 12.9, but do not mention the previous models, so i was wondering if u could give it a try?! Thanks! Great videos, keep them coming.
I bought both and after trying both I am returning the Magic Keyboard and keeping the Logitech. Main reasons are the more options for tablet orientation from flat to viewing. Second is the typing experience for me was close enough to not deter me from Logitech. The last reason it the top row of buttons. I use these buttons frequently. Just my two cents. Have a good day.
@@jomarib123 this is something to be aware of. It's primarily for using on a table but if you plan on using mainly on your lap the magic keyboard is better choice.
@@xchapix I would say this is up for debate. My reason being that while the magic keyboard is more stable, it has far less viewing angles, and I personally want my screen laid really far back so I don’t have to lean the actual keyboard forward and chance it falling out of my lap
The absolute deal breaker here has to be that the magic keyboard offers zero protection if you want to use the apple pencil. Like its design completely hinders your ability to use the pencil, it may as well not have a cutout for it. The combo touch’s versatility makes it by far the better choice, thats without the fact that here in the UK the combo touch is also £164, thats almost £200 cheaper!!! A no brainer for artists
THANK YOU! My biggest concern was having to touch the keys when I want to fold back the case and hold the iPad. That made the combo touch the immediate winner for me!
Traveling back in time….I originally purchased the Logitech Combo Touch for my M1 12.9 iPad Pro. Now moving forward, my Logitech Combo Touch keyboard started to malfunction. The letters wore off of some of the well-worn keys. I do use the keyboard a lot. Also, the rubber along the corners of the Logitech Combo Touch bent outward and formed loops. The volume rubber also bent away. So I bought an Apple Magic Keyboard and haven’t looked back. I love it! ❤
Your answer is in your question. ‘Good feature’ means different to different manufacturers. Apple focused on the floating experience more. Some may like apple’s magic keyboard’s click sound, other might not. That brings me to point number 2. Good feature to one user might not be one for another user. So someone always will be left out.
This is a great video - straight to each point with no filler talk or unnecessary cute statements, it’s like a product review for adults. I am a professional artist/animator and your video helped me clearly decide that the Logitech is the way to go when I pick up a 12.9 iPad Pro. Thank you!
I am really sure that there are a huge amount of people who attending those "why pay more" series saved up a huge amount of money and cane to a decision that is just right for them, great comparison, and keep it up!
You are literally the first person I hear saying that you’re disappointed for Logitech not including the strap for the apple pencil and I couldn’t agree with you more!! The Logitech combo touch is my favorite, but having to attach one of these elastic Apple Pencil Cases to the kickstand just to keep the pencil safe, is a huge displeasure.
I have the combo touch and love it. I like the feel of the keys when typing. And I'm so used to having the top rows of extra keys on the keyboard and I would miss that in the magic keyboard.And I LOVE the detachable keyboard. I create art and that's the main reason I purchased it. But now I'm using it for Adobe and Affinity apps and it works great. I've never used a magic keyboard but I like the combo enough not to think I'm missing something.
Yeah you are right the keyboard on the combo touch almost feels the same as the magic keyboard. The difference is very minimal. Typing this reply on the combo touch. Hahaha. Cheers.
@@khususdownload345 It's still good. Though, full transparency, I only use it once in a while. I still use my old 2010 macbook pro for everything except Procreate.
I just bought an iPad Pro and I was dead set on buying the Magic Keyboard. However, the store that I went to had the Combo Touch on stock, so for some reason, I decided to buy it last minute instead. I do not regret it at all. I thought that it would be less immersive because the tablet was not floating, but I don’t feel it. I also have more confidence when using and transporting the iPad because of the case. It also does not feel bulky or heavier than the magic keyboard. What I appreciate the most though is that the keyboard is detachable and that there’s a kickstand so I can use it in many orientations without the keyboard. I don’t regret getting this great product while saving money!
I also have both the Combo Touch and Magic Keyboard. I like them both for different reasons. You did a really good job explaining the pros and cons of each product. For me, I really like typing while the Magic Keyboard is on my lap. This is something very had to do with the Logitech.
I have no plans to buy an iPad pro but I'll admit, I watched the video just for the ASMR-y style of talking you got going. It's really relaxing to hear you walk through the entire process and experience, and you have such a digestable and light format to your reviews that it doesn't feel overwhelming with all the wild cuts and edits some reviewers have. I've read somewhere in your comments before and I just want to echo it again, it feels like I'm having a conversation with a buddy (You and Dave 2D have this very nice way about you'll). Keep up the amazing work sir 👍
Just bought the Combo Touch for my iPad Pro 11. I have never used the Magic Keyboard but I have used mechanical keyboards and I must say that I am very impressed by the typing feel of the Logitech. I'm not denying that the Magic Keyboard could be better, but what I'm saying that you most likely won't be disappointed if you got the Logitech. The material looks and feels really nice and solid without being boring. It looks more of an accessory than just a case. Also, thank you for actually typing words when doing the sound test. I absolutely HATE it when reviewers just mash the keyboard randomly for sound tests... when the hell am I going to press 10 keys at once? I don't type with my forehead!
I prefer the logitech CT over the apple MK, not because of price but due to the functionality, CT keyboard turns the iPad into a super computer also it helps us to use the iPad in different angles which helps us to multitask with media consumption, drawing, gaming, etc. If you are worried about style - go with the apple MK If you think to get the most out of the iPad - stick to Logitech CT. P.S - Please share your thoughts!!
I had the Logitech Combo Touch for a year and recently sold it and got the Magic Keyboard. Here’s why. The way I use my iPad Pro has changed because I got the new 14” Macbook and the Logitech setup became too similar to the actual laptop and too big for me. I would prefer taking my computer and have that on my lap while writing on a couch or on a lap. Logitech is not very useable when you want to have it laid on you. Logitech keyboard is great when you have it spread out on a table. But then why not use a laptop. I realized I used the ipad more without the Logi keyboard just as a tablet in the past few months. So I switched and I use it way more on my lap now, sitting on a couch or in the bed with the keyboard when typing. It’s more portable and comfortable than laptop, yet I get a great quality keyboard. I can also just pick it up while open with one hand and move it aorund the house without the keyboard flapping around and loosing it’s type-ready shape. I also really enjoy taking it off the case and use it naked. After having the Combo Touch for a year, always on, I forgot how light the iPad actually is, which also changed how I use it a lot. I just hold it in my hand naked when consuming content. I was honestly tired of the way it’s difficult to open the Combo Touch and then the second step of spreading out the kickstand made me use it less. It’s those unconscious micro-decisions that made me not want to use the Combo Touch’s keyboard so often unless I knew I was going to sit behind a table. In which point I prefer Macbook. So in my opinion, Magic Keyboard makes the iPad more portable and table-y. You get the advantages you should get with having such light and portable device. With Logitech Combo Touch, iPad feels more like a computer. It is great, the keyboard is great, the weight is similar to Magic Keyboard, I would still highly recommend it, it just depends on your style of use. When you detach the keyboard you are left with a little bulky tablet with a kickstand. While it was useful to have the function keys and I really miss those, for my use, Magic Keyboard is a better choice now.
thanks for your input. You answered all my questions like the weight, connivence to take it on and off and comfort to use it on the lap or if we already have MacBook and we need a different device. So many reviews are lack of those points. They talk too much about functions and price.
I am a dedicated Logitech keyboard user. However, having said that I find that the Apple Magic keyboard is noisier and might bother a neighbor for instance in a library or a quiet location. Logitech’s customer support is outstanding and honest. I cannot comment on the Apple keyboard because I have never used it. I love the Logitech search key on the function key row that allows me for instance to tap the key, hit the Y key, and open RU-vid immediately. I do not know if the Apple keyboard has something like this. Great video as always.
Great review and very helpful for making a decision between the two. I'm going with the Logi - more wrist rest, function keys, and much larger tilt degrees. I've never considered "wrist rest" until watching your review. 👍
The big deciding factor is whether you want to be able to use the iPad naked, that is benefit of how light it is, or you want to keep it in the case all the time, because you are scared of dropping it... Extracting the iPad from the case is a pain, so if you want to use it naked the MK is a much better solution. Another factor is whether you want to use it on your lap or not. I have both keyboards and for my use case the MK is much better and I also definitely prefer the key feel. The trackpad is pretty similar...
Since i draw and use the apple pencil more than typing …i would need to remove the ipad from the case MK…. this is what worries me. That’s why i’m watching videos on keyboards.
I chose the Magic Keyboard for the 11” iPad Pro. Recently I replaced my 2017 10.5” iPad Pro, for which I had Apple’s Folio Keyboard. It is significantly lighter than the Magic Keyboard, and like the Magic Keyboard it provides no protection for the sides of the iPad-so I’ve dealt with that limitation. The Folio developed connectivity issues after about two years; I had replaced it once and the second one was failing. I wanted something that would be more substantial. (Apple seems to have addressed those connectivity issues with the smart connectors and magnets in the newer iPads.) The deciding factor was which keyboard would work best when I held the iPad in my lap as I do much of the time. The smaller footprint of the Magic Keyboard was the better choice. The Magic Keyboard is heavy! I like using it, but carrying the iPad with it is like carrying a laptop. As for the price, I was able to find a retailer that would match Amazon’s price.
This was a hard choice, but I ultimately went for the Magic Keyboard to use as a laptop. It’s sturdier, holds better on my lap, comes with a USB-C port and detaches smoothly when I switch cases, which I will get to. The only issue I have is the lack of function keys. I rarely used them on my previous laptops, but it’d still be nice to have that option. My second case, ESR Rebound Magnetic Case, is what I use for drawing and taking notes. I love how the clasp from the case protects my Apple Pencil whenever I carry my iPad around. I’m aware you can transform the Logitech Case from laptop to drawing, but, to me, it just seemed bulkier and doesn’t offer protection for my Pencil. There is no right or wrong answer between Magic Keyboard and Logitech as they are great products. It’s what fits in your lifestyle.
Tried them both a lot over the past two days. It’s the Combo Touch for me. Protection, plus can flip the keypad behind it with the keyboard facing inward like a book. Sold!
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@4:32 🙏🏻 thanks for talking about this. I only use mine on my lap with a smart keyboard so can’t see how the Combo Touch would be better than the magic keyboard overall. 😃👍🏻
I learned the hard way. Bought Apple one for the first generation iPad Pro and it fell out of my bag and now there’s 2 dents in the corner where it fell
Unfortunately they don't offer it - but the Folio Touch is available. I also checked with Logitech and while the Air 4 will fit in the 11" combo touch, they said the holes in the bumper won't line up.
i initially bought the combo touch for school work with a 12.9 inch pro. but after using it just shy of a month with heavy use, i’m switching to the apple keyboard. The smaller footprint is a huge thing for me, on top of this the logitech keyboard has shown continuous and regular errors and glitches while being used, often requires g me to disconnect and reconnect the keyboard or turn the ipad on and off. It was surprising when i found these glitches were purely physical from the keyboard and not from the software of the ipad. At the end of the day while the logitech is more versatile and cheaper, its still £230, and thats still a lot of money, and if something at that price range is gonna start failing after just under a month i’m not gonna keep it around to see if it gets worse. Sure i may miss the function keys but they can be skipped with commands, touch gestures and the control centre, so its no huge biggie. The other problem was the bulk of the logitech. In handheld mode the ipad became heavy and unpleasant for longer periods of time, and i’ve found that i’m at the stage in which heavy protecting for my ipad is rarely required. That’s why i opted to also by a smart folio case. Since it is magnetic just like the keyboard it means i can use the ipad for drawing, watching movies/shows, reading in handheld with ease. This solution of buying two expensive products and ditching the cheaper logitch isn’t for everyone but i’ve learnt that ‘buy it nice or buy it twice’ is probably most true in the tech world, and at the end of the day its done wonders for me. If i’m gonna go on a plane i can leave the keyboard in my bag and just enjoy the flight with the thin, light smart folio. but if i’ve got to type up an essay it takes seconds to switch from ipad to laptop. And while it cost me a few extra bucks its the best decision i could have made for my ipad, as it has become significantly nicer, lighter and more efficient to use. both in the keyboard and the smart folio case.
Actually, I was looking for these kind of comments about product. It’s really important to see how will be user experience after long time use. Thnx for taking time to comment about that.
I still prefer the Magic Keyboard, mainly because of the elevation. It does stain easily and no Function Keys sucks, but the keys feel slightly better and the extra port comes in handy for me.
I have the combo touch for the 12.9 and the magic for the 11. After using both, I lean more towards the magic keyboard because I use the iPad more with a lap or as a tablet, and it is far simpler to separate the iPad from the keyboard with the magic keyboard for quick tablet use on the table. Not saying the combo touch is not a good keyboard, but if the primary use is for on-table use, then it is a perfectly usable keyboard plus a protective case. It is more versatile in terms of angling, plus it offers the functions row. But if you primarily use it on top of the non-flat surfaces, small spaces, or your lap, then splurge a bit more, and you should not regret it.
The Logitech Combo Touch has only one USB-C port and the side one does not support many third party cables. No loop to stabilise the Magic Pencil is an unfortunate omission. The MK lacks a row of useful function keys. The your pick!
I have the iPad Air 5 and was originally reluctant to buy either and decided to go for the cheaper bluetooth option. After using the bluetooth keyboard for a couple of days, I decided to return it and bought the Logitech CT. It cost me £199 but was able to get it over 3 instalments interest free so not so bad. I'm more than happy with it and feel confident that my iPad is properly protected, unlike the MK. Great video btw.
FYI, In Sept 2021, I purchased a very expensive new I pad Pro with Apple care ,as well as this exact Keyboard, from an Apple store. Two months later, the keyboard stopped working, I made an appt. at the "Genius Bar" and the guy wouldn't even try to diagnose the problem, because it was a Logitech Product. He told me I should call Logitech.
I currently own the Microsoft Surface Go. The way the Logitech keyboard attaches to the case is verry similar. Looks like I will go with the Logitech for the 11" iPad Pro I just bought to replace the Surface Go since I'm already familiar with that style of keyboard and hinge setup.
@@Redridge07 I love it! I can't believe it took me this long to get an iPad! The performance and battery life are amazing on the iPad vs the Surface Go.
@@Kevin6t8 I have been educating myself on ipad vs Surface. The equivalent comparison is ipad pro to Surface pro and many reviews has the Surface pro coming out on top of the iPad pro. I guess the iPad pro beats the Surface Go, but when compared to the Surface pro 8, the Surface is very hard to beat.
Look, I loved the Logitech case. I got one for my first iPad and another one for the iPad Pro. But let me tell you. It’s not worth it. The edges in my first case, as well as the parts next to the speakers, started stretching out. I though this was because maybe I had accidentally pulled on them, so when I got the second case (hitch is even thinner around the edges) I made sure not to touch them. Still, I had the same exact problem. It’s gotten so bad that one of the edges actually broke, and its stretching out to the point of showing the Inter parts of the case. I got the Logitech keyboard for the cheaper price, kickstand, and very importantly, protection. But if the edges are breaking they might as well not be there. I also checked on Reddit, and this has happened to an extent to so many people. Its ridiculous that a product this expensive breaks within less than a year of purchase, and although I checked and it has warranty, a replacement unit would have the same issue. The case also completely stopped working after the iOS 16 update, and as a student I can’t afford to not be able to write for a week. If you’re on a budget a mouse and a Bluetooth keyboard works wonders. I’ve been using them and it’s incredibly comfortable. I do give points to Logitech in that they have been able to give me a refund, since it has a 2 year warranty, but that’s all I can say about it. The case was really really good while it lasted, but it has no longevity. 2/10
These videos are great, and thanks for uploading. However nobody seems to talk about the functions of the trackpad! Apple magic offers a set of features here, nothing is mentioned about the logitechs track in this regard
I’ve owned both… as much as I like the design of the Logitech… it drains the battery to fast.. I went from about 80 percent to 10 percent in like an 1 and a half of use.. it’s obvious that it isn’t optimized for the iPad Pro.
Great thank y oh. I just purchased you already helped me with showing me how I can remove the keyboard and attach to the back to hide the keys ..what about accessories for the I-pad
Believe or not i got the magic keyboard instead on the iPad Pro because the keys are real nice, it has a nice floating design, and it has a usb-c port.
No one addresses the material quality on the Combo touch....at the start is awesome but after a year the material starts degrading fast, and the rubber gets deformed and warps.
How is the combo touch holding up? Would you recommend it over the magic keyboard at the price? Does the caps lock button light up when in use? Thanks for the help!
Of these, the combo touch gets closer to the spirt of the iPad Pro. It at least gives you the option to use a keyboard in a position that would allow you to write or sketch notes. Any keyboard solution that doesn’t do this is inhibiting the very reason to get the device. I personally have a simple folio cover which I place at a 30 degree angle and a Bluetooth keyboard. I do math heavy work so sometimes I like to type and sometimes I like to use my stylus to clarify the math or draw a diagram. Is it a bit less portable? Yes, but both easily fit in a slim messenger bag.
Very good content.. just want to ask you think it’s ok for me to buy main apple device product but when it comes to accessories its better for me to choose other brands?
You could try the Pencil solution I applied to my Logitech Combo Touch on my iPad Air 5: I have attached a Procase Pencil Holder Sticker(from Amazon) which is a fabric pouch with an adhesive base. I have stuck this to the lower rear of the kickstand. With the Pencil removed and in use or charging, the pouch is flat and barely 2mm thick, quite unobtrusive.
Pros: Logitech - Protective Case Logitech - Extra Row of keys Logitech - Lower price Apple - Power Port on Keyboard frees up iPad port Apple - Can rest on your lap Apple - Can use any and every cable or hub attached to iPad port Apple - Better keys Apple - Better Touchpad Cons: Logitech - Protective Case restricts what cables you can use due to the opening for the iPad port is very narrow. Logitech - Protective Case eliminates the ability to use hubs that connect directly to the iPad Logitech - Cannot use on your lap at all, simply falls over. Logitech - Takes up more space then the footprint of the iPad Apple - No protection Apple - Costs a bit more For my use it's a no brainer and the Apple Magic Keyboard wins easily. I must be able to use it on my lap and when on my desk I want to be able to run power without taking up the iPad port. And, I must be able to use the accessories I want to use and not be limited to what will fit due to the a case being too narrow at the port. If Logitech fixes the above things I'll get one for sure, as I really do like Logitech products.
@@velezalonso Since I don't own the Combo Touch, I can only say I've seen videos from others who have adapters attached. I've also seen many where they show how many will not work with it. I have handled the Combo Touch, when I was comparing which one I wanted, and by far like the look, feel, benefits, and quality of the Magic Keyboard were superior. For me it's worth the extra $$ hands down.
I will say that I am sorry I didn’t have the option of the Logitech 12.9 last year when I bought the 2020 iPad. Oh well, I am still happy with my Magic Keyboard.
Will the 2020 11 inch ipad pro work in the magic keyboard case? I don't see why it wouldn't but it would feel awful to spend that kind of money and not be able to use it properly
Amazon has the Logitech Folio touch for the iPad 11 3rd gen. What's the difference between the two, aside that fact that the folio touch has a strap for the pencil?
@@TechGearTalk Yes, that is a nice feature on the newer model. I tried it with mine and unfortunately it doesn’t work. The magnetic polarity of the keyboard and smart connector wouldn’t allow it to properly align.
Is there a protective case that's compatible with magic keyboard that you dont need to take it off and put it back on when you just want to use the ipad without the keyboard?
I get scared about the fact that the Logitech Combo Touch’s keyboard can be detached since in my mind, it makes it weaker since it’s just held by magnet. I also wish that the Logitech had a little flap to cover the Apple Pencil…
Same about the flap... don’t really know why they removed it, I’ve been using the Logitech for a week now, so far, the magnet is super strong, thought u cannot flip it more than 200 degrees or else it will detach, so far I don’t see the magnets getting weaker hopefully it doesn’t to lol
I think the folio touch’s keyboard cannot be detached but combo can, personally I wouldn’t want the keyboard to be detachable, so I prefer the folio one. But the folio one is only supporting iPad Pro generation 1,2 now, I asked Logitech, and prob they will release a folio version for 3rd gen during the end of August
@Tech Gear Talk Great review as always. May I ask if it is easy or hard to switch the iPad on and off with the Logitech Combo Touch? I ask as I find the Logitech Slim Folio Pro extremely difficult and very awkward to turn the iPad on and off, having to press the covered buttons extremely hard. Thanks in advance for your reply.
For me the combo touch is magnificent! The fact that I can detach the keyboard, flip out the kickstand and prop it up on one knee to view is amazing but not only that but with it propped on my knee I can actually attach the keyboard and lay it out and I am typing this in that configuration right now and I can still lay back against my pillow without any issue and no wobble. For me that super comfy. I literally have the kickstand out maybe halfway out and propped on my one knee and got the keyboard attached to it laying slightly angled up and my hands are resting comfortably and having no issue. I guarantee that you cannot do that with the magic keyboard. For me this is how I use this keyboard and case setup and I am super comfy lol :D it works for me.
Before I watch this video, my opinion is the magic keyboard is better because it takes up less space and has a charging port so you have the second port available if needed.