I am a sport bike guy. I have always felt that getting around a corner fast was the point of a motorcycle. I went to work for a Harley-Davidson dealer and got to ride a number of big cruisers. I learned that the riding experience between a sport bike and a cruiser is nothing alike. Both experiences are fun and rewarding but they are totally different.
@@ryanmg02 They suck too but most of them have been rebuilt with care. The originals were built by a Motor Company that didn't care about quality. It was just the way it was 60 years ago.
His Moto Guzzi review was embarrassing. (for him) He red lined the bike more times in the review than I have in 4 years. He speaks with authority from a position of ignorance.
When I'm not tearing up the fire roads and occasional single track, I love to cruise on my Africa Twin and I fully support anybody that enjoys the simple and pure pleasure of "cruising" on two wheels ✌️
My Jap cruiser is for sure the most comfortable bike I've been on in decades, BUT only after spending an extra 750 dollars on a Mustang seat with backrest, and a pillion.
I think they just look cool. I feel cool on mine. I have recently gotten an older ADV type bike and find it's a great combination of both worlds. You can ride it in a more "performance-oriented" kind of way through twisty roads etc. but you can also just cruise the open road in an upright seating position. It doesn't look as cool though... Since I bought the ADV I know the responsible thing would be to sell my cruiser (I really can't afford to have two bikes...) but so far I have found myself reluctant to do so...
I am so tired of the cruiser hate from Yammie and the guys at Revzilla. I am not racing anyone, I am not riding "fire roads" and there isn't a canyon within 500 miles of where I live. I have miles and miles of paved flat roads, match that with bad knees, chronic neck pain, and low budget - a cruiser is the bike for me.
Agree with you 100%. I unsubsidized from him a while back. He seems to think every bike rider should be on a sport bike in full leathers going to a track day. He's critical of the way other people ride although he almost killed someone qnd himself due to reckless riding. Plus he fired his producer Spite when people enjoyed his content more than yammie's. I just subscribed to your channel, brother. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Matt! Yeah I followed YN before Spite joined but he was the real reason I got hooked on that channel. Good thing that getting fired was probably the best thing that happened to him. He's got better content than YN. Hope you enjoy it here too ✌🏼
Agreed. He is one of those riders that gives the rest of us a bad name. Reckless, entitled, thinks he can and should ride on the street the way he rides on a track.
@@mattcocky8956 the old bad name thing huh? what do 1%ers give motorcyclist? on those big old hawgs? guaranteed worse. go get a patch or two or three. nothing like cospaly.
I've had both a cruiser and a liter sportbike at the same time, loved them both for what they were. Two completely different animals meant for two completely different experiences. I was more relaxed on my cruiser, like an old dog laying on the front porch taking in the scenery. On the sportbike however, I was more like a banshee with his rear-end on fire.
@@kondormotorides I don't see enough people acknowledging that. Trying to ride a cruiser like a sport bike or vice versa isn't going to be a super fun experience. Likewise, a sport bike on dirt roads isn't really the greatest experience. Especially if there's anything on the road that you have to ride over.
I agree, riding back to back with my XSR900 and my pop's Vulcan 650s and his Bolt 950, it does make sense for someone who's older, who enjoy lower end grunt and low seat heat, plus they do look amazing. Sportbikes/Naked are more for the younger/agressive audience.
I don't get why people hate on eachother for what they ride. All motorcycles are cool, all riding is fun and all riders are valid as long as it is for the love of it and don't make it others problem. I haven't tried a cruiser yet, but with how i keep modifying my bikes for more relaxed sitting positions i know i would love it for the exact reasons you explained it. Good vid brother!
Because those people see riding as a statement. They care about how they look on a bike and the supposed rep it gives them. In reality nobody cares, nobody notices them. Basically, they are posers. And "riding well" doesn't invalidate this. Nobody who really likes bikes and cares about other people would hate on any sort of bike, regardless of if they enjoy a certain style or not.
My first bike was a sports bike... It had a bad influence on me... They want to go fast... I decided that I preferred to stay alive and bought a cruiser instead. I really enjoy it 😊
You get it! The road is not a race track. I started on sport bikes as a young dumb kid and realized motorcycling on the street is more enjoyable and safer going the speed limit on a bike built for the street.
@@robertjbender I think some people find it a lot harder than others. It also depends a lot on the individual bike. I have a tracer 9 GT, and depending on what mode it's in, it's either like a little puppy that always wants to go faster, or it's just a chill tourer to take grocery shopping.
@Robert Bender They encourage you to ride fast. They geometry is aggressive and the tune and engine want to be ridden hard. Staying safe and riding slow is enjoyable on more relaxed bikes. I'm a bit of a daredevil and just ever want the temptation on a sporty bike. I'd die haha
I started as a sport bike guy, but quickly discovered that there is so much more in the world of motorcycling than just going fast. Price is one of the biggest things that he’s got me to look at cruisers. You can get a Japanese cruiser for not a lot of money in my area. Shadow 750s can be had for under $2000 USD. Vulcans are pretty inexpensive as well. Add some bags and for under $3K you could have a decent machine that can take you across the country.
Funny enough, I picked up a shadow for literally $150 with extra parts, but without a carb. Found out the frame was bent. Bought a new frame for 600ish usd. new carbs for 200ish. So even considering the labor of swapping everything over to the new frame, I'm still under 2k. Additionally I got to KNOW that bike and the added benefit of turning wrenches (it's own reward for some of us.) I highly recommend buying an old trash bike for nothing and turning it into EXACTLY what you want. Whether that's a 636, a shadow, or a YZ. Specifically to spend the time on YT or forums learning about the bike intimately. I'll never sell that shadow. Luckily, because it's a Honda, it will probably outlast me.
I'm riding a slightly modified '82 kawi kz1000,13000 original miles, and a '78 gl1000 Honda goldwing 23000 original miles and looks showroom to new....6k for both. How can you go wrong?
I ran a Vulcan for a few years. Long story short, I needed a bike on the cheap and picked up an ‘07 Vulcan 500EN for $3500. It had 6k on the clock when I bought it in 2013. It had almost 50k when I got rid of it and sold it for $3200. Metric cruisers are pretty sweet for cost. That said, I was traveling a lot for work and had to park on the street. Bike was rusting like crazy in the PNW rains…
This is so true I bought $1,000 virago. I've put 25,000 miles on it in one year. It has never not started. I maybe have $500 in maintenance and tires into the bike. Best $1500 bucks spent EVER
Yama himself has said he doesn’t even ride that much anymore because it’s boring he rides on track. He doesn’t get it doesn’t want to get it he’s a gate keeper and a nobody. It’s not what your riding it’s where your going and who your going there with. He’s riding alone going in circles.
Honestly that's where he belongs and he should stay there. Do track day reviews and take that nonsense off the roads. It's dangerous and a bad example.
I'm a scooter guy, but I can sympathize with this video a lot because most points apply to scooters as well, and I understand how sports bike guys don't tend to think about reasons why anyone would prefer a less performant type of bike with other advantages in different fronts that just aren't taken into consideration by them. Scooters also allow you to take a laid-back approach to riding and enjoy the scenery without worrying about going fast. Maxiscooters are amazing for passenger comfort, easily being a strong contender for the type of bike with the most passenger comfort. And the point about the community and group rides, I think it's the same for scooters. They have other advantages too like the built-in storage or the automatic transmission, but if you look at it from a purely performance-oriented point of view, even the fastest of maxiscooters are terribly slow compared to a sports bike, so I understand why they don't like "slow" type of bikes, but there are plenty of reasons to love them if you look beyond going fast all the time.
I’m from Southern California and just got a Vulcan 500 for my first bike. I think your point of view is really good and so true. Yammie kinda lost his original version and he fired spite 😅
Well, i am not a big Cruiser guy. I live in India and I love my little cruiser Meteor 350. Ride means different things to different people. For Indian road conditions cruisers are pain in the 🍑 . But that didn't stop me from buying one. Great video mate, more miles to you 🫡🫡
I'm waiting for Honda to bring the Rebel 300. I've heard it'll be here in our country by December 2023. But, like you said about Indian roads, I might end up hurting my Dad or Mom's spine with the amount of potholes we have at some places! Thankfully, my city is a major one and has perfect roads 99% of the time. Those few times it does get bad, always happen on inclined, hill roads.
@@kondormotorides I used to watch a lot of videos, and most owners and reviewers say the Scram overheats in city traffic! Of course, you may not know, but 5:30 pm to 7:30 pm is rush hour in my city, Guwahati. There are places where I get stuck in traffic and have to walk my bike forward! Those people say that's where the Scram heats up! Hence, I'm still sticking to my Dad's Bajaj Discover 100!🥲 For now, at least.
Amen, brother. I ride a cruiser because I want to cruise. For all of my brothers on 2 wheels out there, if you want to ride a sport bike - God bless and have fun. They are not the bike for me.
#1, we ride cruisers because arent criminals. we dont speed, we dont run from cops, we dont act like douchebags stunting on public roads, causing accidents, punching mirrors etc. #2, we ride cruisers because we arent children, trying to pick up chicks, cat calling, and causing issues in traffic. #3, we ride cruisers because we want to.
Absolutely! "They are for cruising". The appeal of the cruiser body position and the power delivery is intentionally antithetical to performance riding. So the bike doesn't become a distraction from cruising. And the truth is you don't need more than 22 degrees of lean angle to do everything you need to do on the street, no matter what you ride.
Cruisers got that name as a type of bike, typically post WW2 army and cop bike lines, turned into boulevard show cruisers for cruising Friday nights at Mel's Drive In or the American Grafitti strip. They were definitely not comfortable for long irin butt rides. Interstate bikes started to appear on the 70s for long smooth cushy distance in mostly straight lines and adopted the cruiser name. An original cruiser was a bike to show off after mods in the greaser ducktail set...then Easy Rider...then Goldwings and plusher Indians and Harleys...then Japanese Indian copies with reliable motors.
I don't know how much lean a 1972 Yamaha XS-650 has, but I know it wasn't enough for me. I made sparks with that thing at traffic light intersections. I suspect most cruisers are even more limiting than the XS, which was a Triumph Bonneville pretender.
I've been riding sport bikes for around 15 years and dual sports around 5 years and I'm looking to buy a vulcan 900 for my first cruiser.. I know every bike has a purpose and i enjoy different bikes for what they are
Yammy Noob is a typical sports bike snob. He's Loud and Bigoted. Not everyone wants to take their life in their hands for the sole purpose of inflating their ego.
I think Cruisers are actually pretty great. I had an impression of them before I owned one of them being slow and poor handling - I got a Honda Aero VT750 because it was stable in the wind, low and could carry a pillion easily. I like the feeling of the engine not being strung out and just cruising. I’d say the biggest thing you need to bring to a cruiser is mindset - sit back and relax. I don’t think it will be my forever bike - spoke wheels give me anxiety about flats for example - but metric Japanese cruisers are affordable an undoubted stylish. Like you say, I think two bikes is ideal, maybe a sports bike and a cruiser.
I also started on the same bike. Aero 750, great bike and inexpensive too. I needed more juice myself, so I sold it for a sportster that I dumped tons of money into and made it fast. I still regret selling the Aero however!! Especially after getting nailed in the city on my sporty. It was totaled and I lost all the cash I dumped into it. I have a Thruxton RS now, and want a cruiser for my wife. We could have just kept that Aero…..
New rider trying to learn about different bikes. This input is valuable because it gives insight and understanding into peoples biasts and perspectives. Thanks.
You nailed it. I'm 70 and love to cruise winding back roads at 35 to 50 MPH. I have no desire to ride a race bike or ride at the limits of performance.
Yammie Noob is wrong about all types of stuff all the time... I unsubbed and stopped watching him when he fired Spite, and have no plans to watch again. Never could stand him much anyways, watched for Spite and others on the channel... plus Sport bikes are boring and not interesting to me at all anyways.
Pillion comfort was one of the main reasons I like cruisers. Allied with the fact that I don't like to ride above the speed limit as I fear for my and HER safety, I want to travel around and enjoy her company outdoors, feeling the wind. One additional reason to why I like cruisers is that they have bags to carry our stuff for weekend or longer travels, it just make travelling on a motorcycle so much more convienient.
My biggest problem with Yammie Noob is he keeps pushing performance on to everyone when he hasn't mastered it, dude almost killed himself on a curve. My problem with sport bike riders is all they talk is going fast. I agree with you, I bought my Harley to go far distances or for my girl can be comfortable when we go out. You can never get that from a sport bike.
I have a Honda goldwing 2019 and even though it’s a touring bike it’s more like a sport touring cruiser… and what u said is the reason I ride it… at this stage in my life I want to enjoy the scenery outside of a cage… lol good video
Watching this, my choice is cemented that it is a cruiser I will be riding. I've been a rider for almost a decade, but speed really ain't my interest. It is the journey I enjoy, not the destination alone. Thanks for reminding me man!
Well journey is the point with sport bikes too. They're made to be incredibly engaging and enjoyable through a series of turns. If you live somewhere that doesn't have that, then a sport bike is just an engine with discomfort. No one cares about the destination; that's what a Prius is for. Sport bikes and cruisers are simply optimized for different types of roads. An R6 is terrible anywhere in Nebraska, but I'd hate myself for bringing a Harley on OR-202. Just depends on your mission.
@@JETZcorp Agreed. In the Philippines, a sportbike or any ride can be well, but not for me I think... Enjoying the scenery is my jam... That is why a cruiser suits me. Thanks man!
I have a Triumph Rocket 3 Touring. It's my 900 pound cruiser. I love it. Just turned 69 years old and may downsize in 5 or so years... To another cruiser. :)
Used to be a cruiser boy before. For many years. Because of the style and comfort, but gradually I realized that I need the ability to stand up and cover the bumpy part of the road without my butt being violated. Also I realized that the amount of luggage I want to carry has surpassed the limitations of those nice-looking, but less than useful leather bags on a cruiser (bigger bags don't fit with the cruiser look IMHO). Ended up with an adventure bike and planning on sticking with this type just because of its versatility
As an artist-soul I´m very interested in design. I guess one reason might be you like the style, all chrome and bling, and also the fact that you can add some personal style, since weight and aero isn´t really a thing. Of course there is so many beautiful bikes out there. In my dreams I want them all, the same goes for cars, and.. whatever.
You hit the nail on the head my man. I love to just cruse at 45 -50 enjoy the feeling of the bike the scenery its all about the holy church of the ride.
I agree with you to an extent. One thing I want to touch on (and this is for the southeastern US) we typically don't put the slower riders in the front. We put them in the back right in front of our tail gunner (he's typically one of the most experienced riders in the group and knows where we're going and makes sure they don't get too far away from the pack) Tail gunner is also the mechanic of the group who stops with anyone who broke down and fixes them up enough to finish the ride and catch them back up.
I agree with all that you say about cruisers. However, where I live in Maine, the roads are mostly rough, frost heaves, broken pavement, no shoulders, etc. Most cruisers have very little rear suspension travel and that would make enjoying the scenery difficult due to spinal compression. So, to enjoy the scenery here I went with an adv bike to soak up the rough roads. Great video.
@@zach3864 Good point. Here in Michigan the roads are similar condition. Some less rideable than others. But I think the point is … “to each his own.” Ride what you like, but just ride. I love my bike, a 2002 Honda GL 1800. Agreed, there are no perfect roads. But let’s ride what we like and support the industry. If you practice with the bike you like, you become proficient. And the ride becomes most enjoyable. Stay safe!
Time stops for no one, we all get old, but that doesn't mean we have to age out of riding, there's always another bike for us. Some Tacoma smashed into my Mustang a few years ago n now I have the bottom of my Cerebellum (part of brain) almost fusing into my Spine (Chiari Malformation). I can't do the whole riding position on Sport Bikes anymore, neck aches after just an hour. I still respect ZX10Rs, R1s, Ducks and many other sport bikes, but there's something to be said about melting miles away on a fat cruiser or even a nice Naked/standard. We try to stop many things in life, but the march of time isn't one of them, we all grow old, things get harder, made even harder if you get injured along the way, that's a simple fact, but hey? I'll try my best to still enjoy riding, in any shape or form. It's not all about SpeCS, sPEED, n nuMbERs!
You are dead right Kondor. I own both a sport bike and a cruiser and it takes a very different mentality to ride one or the other. I think you have your reasoning for going cruiser is spot on. Well done, keep on cruising 😃😃
Yammie taught me a lot, and I disagree with a lot of the shit he says. I’m a cruiser rider, I ride an 05 HD springer softail, probably going to get a sportbike next, gonna test drive one soon because I want to get a feel for the riding experience. I love my cruiser. It reminds me of being a kid and just cruising down the road on my bicycle. Except now my bike is big and loud and beautiful with lotsa chrome. Most relaxed riding position, just feel like I’m laid back on a couch 🛋️ rollin my way along, and I have all the power I need. Would be nice to carve the highway on a sportbike, but I love how my cruiser with my springer suspension just lays waste to any and all bumps. It’s so smooth. And I still get places in half the time as in a car, because lane splitting is legal where I am.
Great points! My first motorcycles were cruisers; I’m a big guy and felt like I wouldn’t fit on a sports bike, and would look silly, also I was drawn to the looks of the cruisers. Since then, I’ve transitioned to the ADV style, and love it! Now I think I’m ready for my first sports bike😂. You’ve got to try them all!
I highly recommend trying a full-on dirt bike at some point too. A YZ250 on a single-track trail is so epic that you can't believe it's legal. Sport bikes are fun but unless you take it to the track, the limitations of public roads are pretty stifling compared to the absolute anarchy of dirt.
I bought a cruiser because i fell in love with how it looks. That’s it. The looks. When I look at a sport bike I see a boy’s bike. When I see my cruiser I see a men’s bike.
This guy's dead on correct. It's not how fast you get there it's the journey. It's the smell of the fresh cut grass, the neighborhood BBQ's, the spring wild flowers in the air the feel how the temperature changes while riding in a valley. It's the JOURNEY not the speed. Yammie got his melon scrambled when he tried to be that ladies hood ornament on her Porsche when he flew a 100 feet in the air. There is different kinds of riders some are speed others or cruise/experience just like there's different kinds of bikes. But instead of seeing that community as a whole he's got a pin headed view.
Wow! 650+ comments with less than 1000 subscribers! You are obviously making some great content. You video was well done: factual, smooth, informative, and rational. Well done! I like small, light, simple air cooled classically styled bikes. So why do I own a big, heavy relatively complex Vulcan 900 LT? Because my wife got tired of going on 1200 mile 10 day long tours on my Suzuki TU250. Not enough leg room. So we got the Vulcan, a competent touring bike that isn’t a 1200 pound $40,000 two wheel mini van! I still prefer the Suzuki for my solo rides, but my wife loves the Vulcan Happy wife, happy life. Especially out on the road!
I had no idea it was going to be this popular. It has 10 times the views I thought I'd get but no complains here! Yes, happy wife happy life. That's why I still keep my cruiser around even though I prefer my ADV nowadays ✌️
I agree with you 💯💯💯 %%% But U Did forget about the Honda Gold Wing. Any Year any model you can get. American Dollars?? Don't know what you use ?? Good/Nice But used less than $5.000 there pretty nice bikes.. I sold mine and got a Honda shadow. But I wish I'd have kept mine but that's My opinion.. Thank You.. Daniel Bock...
Yammie boob with another bad opinion? Who would have thought. Personally, I get why people buy and ride cruisers, I'm just not a big fan of them. I don't like the way they look and I especially dislike how most of them sound. But that's just my opinion, I'm not going to start saying everyone should stop riding cruisers because of it, unlike a well known porsche destroyer.
I specifically don't like yammie noob as a person. I haven't watched his content for many years. Dating back to the yammie DIWD beef. DIWD is an actual positive person. Yammie is a grifter.
I left sport bikes and went to a Harley because i realized I don’t have the self control to not kill myself on the road and now I have a totally different appreciation and understanding of riding
"Cruising" is relaxing riding, preferably down 2 lane highways, scenic byways, doing the speed limit or less, possibly on twisty roads, without dragging your knuckles, knees, boots or shoes, or footpegs on the roadway in the corners. It's having a bike that has lots of torque to power out of turns in taller gears with a minor twist of the throttle to get the job done, instead of dropping down 2 gears to race out of the apex of the corner. It's about wearing out, through normal riding, the center of your rear tire, not the sides. It might be about going riding after your kids are out of the house and out of college too, and riding is for pleasure, or it's a retirement gift that might be more expensive, to yourself, upon your retirement. It might be your first Harley Davidson softail purchase, new or used. It's riding for pleasure, not for purpose. I bought myself, at 64, a HD Sport Glide. Don't let the name fool you.... It's the predecessor by 5 years to the Low Rider ST, all based on more suspension travel of the mono shocked softail, with inverted forks, a mini windscreen / batwing faring that's fairly comfortable as a cruiser with an aftermarket seat, like a Saddlemen Explorer. Big on displacement, big on torque, and low on horsepower... it's got locomotive breath when you twist the throttle a little bit. Pretty much everything a Cruiser should be.
Trying to explain why someone would buy a cruiser to a guy that smashed a yellow Porsche acting like the street is a track... If Yammi can't figure out why someone would ride a cruiser, must mean he still only rides fast on the street, or really wants back problems.
Road dirt bikes small mopeds when I was a kid. Most of that was in dirt muddy back roads. When I was a teen I wanted some super sport bike. I wanted to go fast. But when I hit the age I could afford a motorcycle I went with a cruiser. Something about a V twin, a machine without any bells and whistles, being able to just roam the country side in little groups was much more satisfying than risking my life at 150mph on a highway. At the end of the day i just want to breathe fresh air in the sun and drive from downtown to the country side, to small town, then back home.
In Yammy's video about the cheapest bikes from manufacturers, he described my Yamaha V Star 250 as, " what? Maybe 10 horsepower?" Dumb kid doesn't do his research before just spouting whatever comes to mind. It's listed as 21HP V-Twin & 326lbs. If he doesn't like cruisers, fine. But don't put them down because we like'em & he doesn't. Yammy NOOB is right. I'm 67 and too old to keep knee draggin'. I'm at the point where just cruising, flying in the wind is da chit!
My dear man. First of, YN is an entertainer in the first place. You can call him a clown if you will, but he is literally here to - 1st entertaint and - 2nd inform. Talking everything what he sais seriously will lead you to buying a turbo busa as a first bike. I absolutely would not agree that performance is what he praises in his moto life, he praises fun the most. And thats unfortunately true, cruisers are not fun, at all. And then you go arguing about how a cruiser is about scenery, low seat height community etc. Truith is, outside of seat height, a good adventure bike will do everything better. 1st, you can cruise on any bike outside of dire sprotbikes, even on sport tourer you can absolutely ride at 40 mph while enjoying the view. On an ADV bike you will have the same view as on a cruiser, if not a better one. Its the same for naked. I have 6 degree lean forword on Sportster and wooping 7 on a Honda CB1000. And 0 on a GS or Africa Twin, i can just seat totally upright. This is exactly what Spite sais in his video about cruisers - problem with them is that ADV bikes are just better at what cruisers suppose to be best at. Yes, lower seat height, that point stands. So basically if you want scenerey AND a lower height and you can sacrifce better engine, better brakes, better electronics, better seating position, better cornering, better offroad capabilities, if you can drop all of this because you need a lower seat height - well, you got me there. And for community i am sorry that point is just your personal matter. Finding a decent riding group that waits for everyone and stays as a group is totally irrelevant to a bike you ride. My friend rode with one infamous 1 percenters for 3 years, (he quit after completeing his time as a prospect since he realised he didnt want to tie his life with criminal activity for the end of it) he said they ride like literall animals. Totally cruiser riders, like you cant be more cruiser guy than a 1percenter international MC. I have some mixed groups we ride in a pack and wait for everyone if someone cant keep up. For me the number one reason people like cruisers is because its magical appeal. And Yammie actually talks about it, its some magic, some huge back story ascosiated with riding a cruiser. And the way V-Twin feels and sounds - well nothing does it like that, I would actually say that every reason you advocate outside of seat height is actually less important then a huge appeal cruisers has emotinally and mythologically, if i may. V Twin sound, classic looks, low torque, drrrdrrdrr between your legs - thats why people actually ride cruisers. TLDR - you can cruise on any bike, while having even better view and comfort for you and your passanger on specifically ADV bikes. Riding groups is something composed out people, not bikes, just find one you are comfortable with. Low seat height is unbeatable tho, thats true. Oh and ride what you enjoy, dont let anyone affect your life choices. Just be safe. And YN, as much of a clown he is, is an immensively passionate and well informed person who does a great public service. He hates Ninja 650, and i started on it and consider it one of the best beginers bike ever. Someone once mentioned him that in a drag race Ninja 650 outperformed i think Aprillia and Yamaha, and he responded to that with "still sucks lol". I would be mad to take that seriously. If you want to promote cruiser riding i think the best way is to be passioned about and do content. Look at brian_636, that dude alone almost convinced me to buy a Harley. Lol.
These guys are taking YN too seriously, dude is all jokes lol, I ride a Harley low rider s and I been dying for him to make a video roasting the low rider s, I think it’ll be hilarious 😂
Hey good video ! Funny enough, I had a FZ 09 2015 before I sold it 6 years later for a HD FatBoyLo thinking it would be more comfortable for longer rides, well, to some extent, the bigger fuel tank was a plus, however, it did not feel more comfortable, at all, even with a full Batwing shield the buffeting was worst than naked FZ on highway, the seat all though more cushing was not great due to the very small ammount of suspensions on the rear. The riding position was, not so great either, only thing I liked was the low end torque and very low center of gravity, but the 750+ pounds of weight was a pain to carry around on stop light and garage. And the constant fear of dragging the very low lean angle was also bad for me, You are right though, very different machines for very different purpose. Both great in there own ways and for each there own ;) I am now in the market for a XR1200, best of both world :D Peace and keep up the good work ! Also yes, YN is a brat :D And I love Spite's channel
Yammi just poops on anything that isn’t the pinnacle of performance. He doesn’t always see other people’s perspectives when he reviews bikes. And the sport bike squids is really his crowd of viewers.
I think you are both wrong for the same reasons. I have had both a cruiser and a sport bike. And now I'm on an adventure bike. And I think you both are missing each others points.
You're right. I was not clear. An example you used was if you are on a sports bike you are only focused on going fast and if you are on a cruiser you are only focused on the scenery. Being someone who has riden a wide range of bikes. You can do both types of riding on both types of bikes. Harley makes the screaming eagle which is a super fast bagger.
When I was young and dumb I was trying to choose my first bike (sport bike of course) and was seriously comparing 0-60 times as if it mattered whether it was 2.5 or 2.6 seconds.
I'm a nakedbike rider since I started riding nearly 10 years ago. But hating on cruiser is just plane stupid. Same as hating sportsbike. In the early years I had a common opinien as YN. This changed a lot. Now I'm looking for something which has more power than my smv 750 and is better suited to ride longer distances with the possibility of still riding a bit "sporty".
On my cruiser I simply enjoy the ride sitting upright in comfort. I ride a 1500 Vulcan Classic and always wear my full-face helmet even sitting behind a big windshield. Cruiser community? Never seen a cruiser group, but I'm not interested in riding with others. I'm retired and in no hurry to go anywhere, that's why I like my cruiser.
you can say the same about sport bike community. I think most of the gatekeeping from the cruiser community is from older guys who pride themselves in buying American made products. most of us younger cruiser guys like all kinds of bikes.
You're absolutely correct Yammi noob. Is comparing apples with oranges.. or perhaps apples to bananas.. they have different purposes.. I'm 65 and I can't ride along with leaning over a tank on a crotch rocket... I'm not looking to do wheelies and stunts and race around town or race around tight roads... I just bought a Yamaha 1300 Royal Star it's a 1996.. has 30,000 miles on it and was well maintained as the owner is a motorcycle mechanic.. I personally know.. I paid $2,000 in the Yamaha is in mint condition.. it has running lights. Large windshield.. floorboards and saddlebags... Yes it's a big heavy cruiser.. but the V4 engine has plenty of power... At my age I just want to ride down the highway and enjoying the ride.. not trying to get there fast.. not racing.. I'm not doing wheelies and stunts.. just enjoying the ride!
I'm a cruiser rider and I would never want to ride a sport bike. I'm older and enjoy the smooth and easy ride my cruiser gives me. I'm not a speed demon. I just like to ride. So, I agree with everything you say.
I have had my Triumph Tr-6 with a hard tail and magneto for 40 years. Commuted with the bike back and forth to work for 30 years. Reliable and dependable transportation. I have had my Sportster for 25 years and 400,000 miles on the original engine. Also love riding my URAL side car outfit. Love riding slow motorcycles.
A ride a 250cc fully automatic bike with a sport bike design, but I ride to cruise. I just like the look and feel of the sport bike, hut it by no means has that performance. So i guess its blasphemy to both sides. Lol. At the end of the day whats most impoetant ia ridonf what you enjoy. Yami Noob kinda has this elitist gate keeping mentality that doesnt understand that people seek their own experience drom a ride.
Yammie is a constrained person with a closed mind in general. That is why he fired Spite when noticed Spite started being more popular than him. That is why he is unable to understand that different people enjoy different things. I personally don't like riding sportbikes because they are extremely uncomfortable and just make no sense for public roads. However, I understand why people love them. Moreover, I would even have Ducati in my garage just because I admit Ducati Panigale V4 and Kawasaki H2 are absolutely beautiful engineering masterpieces.
I knew what I wanted, I'm not into reckless driving. A cruiser gives a calming feel. I'm more of a car guy but when thought of buying a bike the only thought that came to my mind was a cruiser. We are not racing anyone, we just want to enjoy the ride
I like to cruise as opposed to racing everywhere. Worked out well for over 40 years. My cousin is a hardcore GSXR rider from Germany. He took a ride on my Lowrider. Liked it about as much as me on a sport bike. Different strokes....
I never really understood cruisers. They look cool, comfy and sound good but they'll never be as comfortable as a car (although cars are mundane) Sport bikes i get. Theyre faster than cars and thrilling to ride. But cruisers look like they should be touring but they seldom carry bags or a windshield. Are cruisers mostly for puting around the town/backroads?
I think Yammie has very good points, and your points/reason are very valid too. I am in the middle; I like naked bikes. I get the performance of a sports bike without all the plastic. but just like you, I also own a Honda rebel 500 that I like riding around town. but if I am going to hit the highway, I grab one of my 4 cylinders.
My shrink asked me what it's like to ride my Harley Davidson xl1.200x 48? I replied, imagine having your teeth drilled, a migraine, a back ache, and a hard on, well there you go!
I have 4 motorcycles. First gen Hayabusa , 2019 Vstrom 1000, Intruder 1400 from 1999 and a little Savage 650. I enjoy every single one equaly. So nice to be on the 650 riding with 70-80 kmh, so nice feeling 115 nm on the Intruder, so nice having all the tech on the Vstrom and sooooo nice to go from 60 to 200 with the Hayabusa . Every motorcycle must put smile on my face. Ive tryied many different bikes and every single one is different. Let’s try to ride safe and nothing more. The feeling with the Hayabusa can not be compared with something else. Having that power without ABS and other gadgets, makes me more than happy. But that happines take 60 sec. After that im thinking about my wife and my little girl. It is so much to talk. Yammie is nice, but speed is everything for him. Let him for a few more years and you will see some changes. All the Best and ride safe! Safe can be between 60-250 kmh and dangerous between 250-60………
Retro bikes are one of the hottest segments of the motorcycle market today. Which tells you right up front that performance is a secondary consideration, after aesthetics and reliability. What could be more retro than a cruiser? The basic cruiser look will always be a throwback to designs from the 40's/50's/60's, long before mono-shock suspensions, aluminum frames, and a$$-up ergonomics. Modern sport-bikes are so powerful they're way past the point of being fun. Riding like a monkey on meth on the street is a quick way to get your OFF switch flipped by a texting Karen in an SUV. I'm all about a tough, stripped down bobber. I unsubbed Yammie Noob a couple years ago. He'll never understand why a 1968 Barracuda is cooler than a new Bugatti Chiron.
I'm a dual sport guy myself, I love taking my bikes off road, but I have seriously been considering a cruiser as I'm getting older, and riding on the bumpy terrain or the spills on the trails are taking longer to recover from now. I'd like to take a long ride to the coast in comfort for once, and I can't see sports bikes being comfortable for long trips like that. My next bike will either be an adventure bike or cruiser, I just can't decide. I still have love for off-road, so most likely, it'll be an adventure bike, but I am still very tempted to get a cruiser.
Sport bikes, sport nakeds = high adrenaline, high outright performance akin to ferrari, lambo, porsche Touring Bikes = big, heavy, comfortable, mile eating SUV type aficionados need only apply Adventure bikes = pseudo off road riding aesthetic seeking riders similar to owners of lifted Jeeps, F-150s Cruiser bikes = slow speed marshmallow riding, low effort, low adrenaline ride similar to old convertible Cadillacs with overboosted power steering. Have owned all of the above...I'll stick to sport nakeds.
Yeah, Yammie I stopped watching after he canned Spite… and then did his exit interview in public. Nah. That said, cruisers fit a certain niche. I didn’t want one when I was in the city (I did own one and threw about 45k miles at it), but I prefer sport nakeds. THAT said, my daily drive is an old BMW. 🤷🏻♂️
I don’t follow YN. I have a metric cruiser & other bikes. I’m glad you pointed out the comfort myth. There’s a lot of silly design ergonomics about cruisers (upright, no wind protection, forward controls, high bars etc etc). If you look at real tourers (goldwings, fjr1300, st1300 etc) or even adv bikes, you can see how ergos are designed for comfort.
Like and comment just because I don’t like yammie for what he did with Spite. And I’ve realized now that I’ve got 5+yrs of riding under my belt that Yam is like a first or second grade teacher. Great to learn your abc’s and 123’s but you outgrow it and the info is left in your brain but the teacher fades away. In those years I’ve learned that the litre bikes in the super sport category or just the razors edge for riding at limits. And all the other categories have their own place to shine. For a guy my age an SS is too much work. So I’ve settled into an mt09sp naked for thrills and hard rides…and a street glide special for just cruising’! Those two bikes might be slightly different, but I’m sure you get the idea. There is no 1 bike for all. Next one up for me is an MX…specifically looking at the Yamaha yz125 since it’s a 2 stroke ripper like I remember em to be.
I think it would be easier to understand Yammies video if it was "Cruisers Suck if you want a sports bike", Yammie said in the video he loves cruisers and he knows very well that cruisers are simply for cruising.
Yammie Noob isn't a responsible road user, I just watched a video of him allegedly doing 190+ mph on a public road, I only hope that when he kills himself he doesn't take anyone else with him or traumatise any unfortunate witnesses. I can see why you like your cruiser, good visibility, unhurried progress thru the landscape. I think I'll subscribe because you aren't Yammie Noob. Ride safe
There one more reason to ride cruisers - they make you look really cool, even if you're ugly in real life. Trust me on this 😀 My opinion based on experience - level of comfort for me + level of comfort for my passenger (typically my GF), the ability to view the scenery while riding (yeah, like you said "cruising around") and the overall solid (aka fully sufficient) performance for longer trips made it the ultimate type of bike for me a long time ago. The moto-vacation we had were some of the best, and this trend & feeling of satisfaction is still there 100% today.
