Why Photographer should upgrade MacBook Pro 2021 RAM to 32 GB for Pro Photo Workflow? 16 VS 32 GB

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A look at why you should get 32 GB of RAM in your new 14" or 16" MacBook Pro if you are going to use the laptop for Pro Photography Workflow. If you work with large files, do lots of localized adjustments or refinements on RAW files in Lightroom Classic, Panoramic merge, or work with large file in Photoshop, you will see why you should consider at least 32 GB of RAM for the setup. I'll be doing a demonstration in Lightroom using a 192 GB RAW files and you'll see the difference right away. I understand that not all are going to work with files this large but more RAM does give the system more headroom especially if you are doing a lot of multitasking.
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Time Stamp
00:00 Intro
00:33 Unified Memory Architect Spec & Background
01:19 Test Systems
01:49 Future System
02:00 Lightroom Classic 1:1 Preview
02:26 Lightroom Classic Export 1000 RAW
02:39 Lightroom Classic Export Battery Test
02:47 Lightroom Classic HDR Merge
02:58 Lightroom Classic Panorama Merge
03:44 Capture 1 Import 1000 RAW
04:05 Capture 1 Export 1000 RAW
04:19 Photoshop Test
04:29 Photoshop Speed
04:46 Photoshop Medium 15.7 GB File
05:13 Photoshop Huge 56 GB File
05:22 Final Cut Pro Results
05:44 Lightroom Classic Demo on 16 GB RAM
08:06 Refined Selection & Slowdown on 16GB
10:45 Demo on 32 GB RAM
12:56 Refined Selection on 32 GB RAM, Smooth
15:38 Multitasking thoughts & recommendation
17:01 Wrap Up
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@TallyHoTech 2 года назад

Finally someone that knows what they are doing. Smashing job Woof!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you so much!

@rlysakowski 2 года назад

This is very convincing and helpful review. You're showing real life example, much better than exporting files or importing, when it's a matter of waiting. This demo clearly shows tangible benefits of having 32GB. Thank you for this.

@christianlapp8306 2 года назад

Totally agree. During im- or export I have a coffee and don't care about a minute up or down. But in editing I want it smooth, and even half a second delay is annoying.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you! It it true but Import and Export does give a few metric to consider, how fast the RAW CPU Power is, and how the thermo envelop of the chip and chassis performance is, will the fan kick on and how loud. And if I need to edit in LRC quick, how much faster can difference machine render the preview. This is why I do the review for both because it give a more wholistic picture!

@blackmamba6938 Год назад

Stop wasting your money. When are you ever editing a 56 GB file? LMAO

@khoifoto 2 года назад

This is the BEST review of the M1 Pro in the entire youtube. No one talks about heavy Photoshop files and those are often the norms in real world work flow. Some of my composite files are as large as 15GB which are very close to your benchmark. 64GB definitely helps. I hate when some people pull up a lightroom bench with only a few images and test the export time then call it real world. Really appreciate your time making this review.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You're welcome, I am Photography First!

@jaimeduncan6167 2 года назад

Only if you need this kind of stuff , many don’t and this video is almost useless if you use Resolve to do lots of your pay work. Maybe you are too centered on your own needs. He is one of the best and his videos cover areas that others don’t, but many people don’t do large composites in Lightroom for example.

@khoifoto 2 года назад

@@jaimeduncan6167 Laptop and mobile phone is considered personal device. That's why it centers on the user's needs. If Resolve is your money making machine, you'd better look else where for the benchmark. I see what I like and leave a comment to encourage the content creator. I work with large files on a daily basis and it grinds my gears when I see lots of people treat the unified memory as if it's made of unicorn fart or something magical. "You only need 16GB" and "don't waste your money" types of video aren't telling the truth at all.

@jaimeduncan6167 2 года назад

@@khoifoto You are misreading me. I agree that this video if fantastic, and I belive you edited your comment to express yourself better. My issue was with the idea that the other reviews were basically useless, they are not, they are simple testing other stuff, different uses. I don't do Panoramas for example, but I will never call his comprehensive panorama testing useless: I will call it fantastic, useful, important, real world, even key. I know my needs are not the same as the needs of others.

@khoifoto 2 года назад

@@jaimeduncan6167 totally agreed with you. In my daily work, I rarely see file sizes smaller than 3-4GB and I let Photoshop / Illustrator used up to 12 GB of RAM per app with 250 steps of undo history while having Final Cut open. That's why when I started to tax the system, the 32GB choked really hard. I guess the definition of Pros varies a lot. I don't see opening 6 Raws 42MP files in Photoshop and leave them there a proper test (you know who I refer to). My average photo editing on Photoshop consists of at least 60-70 layers and that will eat up your RAM fast. In short, I think it all depends on the work load and real Pros will know exactly how much RAM their apps are using and leave a bit of a buffer for future usage.

@sreid1204 2 года назад

Many thanks for real “real life” examples that provide a great insight into which configuration meets a users use case. Fantastic work.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you

@jibx3439 2 года назад

Thanks for this, it’s very helpful to see a review comparing real world tasks that might actually happen, not benchmark tests!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@RajanKannan11 2 года назад

This is exact review I was looking for . Your review is the best I have see. & takes into real world scenarios & more specifically the exact work I need this MacBook for . Thank you for the excellent review . Subscribed to your channel. 👏👏👍

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@chepo1956 2 года назад

This was an awesome video review. You show actual real world scenarios and results. You and Collins Smith from PS Cafe are the premiere reviewers when it comes to actually showing demonstrations; all the others I've seen so far concentrate mostly on the video side. I don't own the new MBP, but watching your video is so helpful when it comes to deciding on a purchase. Thank you.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You're welcome!

@chepo1956 Год назад

@@ArtIsRight Update. Got this: Apple M1 Max chip with 10-core CPU, 32-core GPU, and 16-core Neural Engine 64GB unified memory 2TB SSD storage

@jayteknica1175 2 года назад

Thank you so much for demonstrating localized adjustments!! Everyone else sticks to import/export benchmarks, which while important is not the whole picture, and doesn’t demonstrate quality of life while in the develop module. Fantastic review.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@mikedavis1110 2 года назад

Great examples of photo use in editing and having MULTIPLE items open at the same time is great!!! I did buy the Max 10-24-16, 32Ram and 1TB, based on our conversations on ability/future proofing. Great Work!👍👍

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@Manny24_8 2 года назад

These are the kinds of tests we need. Awesome job. Earned a sub. Looking forward to more videos

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

More to come!

@CryoftheProphet 2 года назад

Ive been waiting for this comparison, thank you

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@johneng7863 2 года назад

I want to add myself to the list of others who greatly appreciate your technical tests. They are super extensive and go farther in testing real world Lightroom Classic actions. Some other sites only test Lightroom exporting which does not really stress the machine. Based on your video, I will be going with a 32GB MacBook Pro 14”. Thanks again and keep up the great work!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@RiteshKudalkar 2 года назад

Man, this channel is so underrated. Excellent review. You just got a new subscriber!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@macmac1222 2 года назад

Exactly the comparison I'm looking for. Thank you for this video. In Art, we trust indeed!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank You!

@aslibman 2 года назад

This is the most helpful review that I have found! It really hits my use case, including keeping way too many browser tabs open. 😯 I now feel confident that I know the best configuration to order.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Glad it helped!

@ThierryGibralta 2 года назад

One of the most helpful video out there. Thank you for this information!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@tngcwa30403 Год назад

Thank you for this insightful review. I am a photographer that uses multiple programs to edit my images. Lightroom classic, Photoshop, ON1 and DXO Pure Raw opened at the same time. I have just purchased the base model 14inch with 32 gigs of ram. This is going to make my editing much more faster now.

@ArtIsRight Год назад

Nice!

@riccohn9528 2 года назад

Excellent real-world (for my workflow) example. Glad I saw this-- you convinced me to upgrade my current order for a 16" M1 Pro with 10-core CPU, 16-core GPU and 2 TB SSD to 32 GB of Ram. Other reviews I've seen couldn't show the advantage of that extra ram. Thank you.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

This is important to photography and sanity when working with large files!

@kuau714 2 года назад

Another excellent video Art. For photographers your hardware reviews are the best hand down…

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@luludelasnubes 2 года назад

I'm very happy I saw your video, thank you so much for doing this, you help A LOT !! Take care !

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You are welcome!

@ronoman1 2 года назад

This is the video topic that I most wanted to see. Thank you!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You are so welcome!

@seatslider 2 года назад

Best loopy video ever!! 👏🏻 Thankyou!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@Kristof_InsertRandomText 2 года назад

I dont know how many macbook pro videos I've watched since launch - but this is the most informative and best one I've seen. This video alone helps me make my decision.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@SeanRosairo 2 года назад

WOW! Thank you so much for making this. I decided on getting the base processor for the 14 inch in order to get 32gb of ram, and I am so glad I did. It was literally between these two machines. Now I can't want for the machine to ship.... my 8GB machine is struggling. This really eased my mind that I did make a decision that will work for me

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Glad I can help!

@robgerety Год назад

This is very helpful. Thank you. It is so important to see how Lightroom etc. perform while editing with the different computer specs. I know what I am going to order now.

@ArtIsRight Год назад

Absolutely!

@e.colemantlpss6406 2 года назад

Finally a channel that doesn't just issue judgement on just import and export speeds, like that's all we ever do in Lightroom. Excellent information thank you. I'm looking forward to upgrading my M1 mini in the near future.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you. Import and Export does give a few metric to consider, how fast the RAW CPU Power is, and how the thermo envelop of the chip and chassis performance is to name a few.

@e.colemantlpss6406 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight maybe it does but most people don’t import and export 1000s of images at a time so don’t really care if the import is done 30s quicker. What we really want to know is how it performs when editing. The M1 was reviewed with a great amount of hype and to be honest, I’ve been extremely underwhelmed. Lots of lag when zooming in and out, beach balls when doing complex edits with a lot of local adjustment layers. Throw PS into the mix with a number of layers and the memory maxes out pretty quickly.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

I know that is what I have been saying about the M1 for Pro this whole time. And yes you might now do 1000+ import or export but I do and I know that many other wedding / events / real estate photographs do. So these test are a wholistic approach to testing. You may not deal with large files quantity but others so I am covering both. But the issues exhibit in M1 is true. The point is that it is not a pro processor but there are many others who paint it that way, I never did. Either way appreciate your feed back.

@stanleyomar 2 года назад

I've been thinking the same thing watching all of these reviews. Yes, exporting images takes time, as does rendering video. But it's also the point in the editing processes where you've done all the hard work and can just walk away and do pretty much anything else while it's happening.

@nessandromendoza797 2 года назад

Im so glad I found this video and your channel! Finally a real world test and comparison. I use the base model MBA M1 (256GB SSD+8GB RAM) and it kinda slows down in LR when browsing through a lot of RAW images and starts to choke when I use masks (which I use a lot). So this video definitely helps me to make a decision which variant to get on MBP 2021. THANK YOU!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Yes that I have that MBP as a side testing machine. It is to slow for real world use

@gardiolan Год назад

LRC user myself as well, I updated from a 8/512 M1 MBA to a 32/512 M1 Pro base model MBP and I'm so glad I did!!

@niidogo9315 18 дней назад

THAAAAAAAAANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU...this series of MacBook reviews for photographers is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you Art.

@ArtIsRight 17 дней назад

Nice!

@jaimeduncan6167 2 года назад

As expected your videos are a wonder. Thanks for the effort

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You're welcome!

@jamesdoerr4318 2 года назад

Thank you so much for doing such a good job. I still have not made up my mind on what I want to buy, but you sure helped narrow it down for me.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you, I have a few other test as well, give that a look too, hopefully it will help the decision.

@gideonjose 2 года назад

Thank you always for your insightful videos! I almost thought my 32GB ram upgrade was for nought. haha but i’m glad to see the clear benefits you’ve presented. Thanks Art!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You're welcome!

@pwerboost 2 года назад

Excellent info sir. Thank you for your work. 👍🏻

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You bet!

@paulliddement 2 года назад

Great man. A real world look rather than just benchmarks!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@NOT_A_TOP_FAN 2 года назад

On launch day, I ordered a 14” 10 CPU/14 GPU (so just bumped up one level in CPU and GPU) w/ 32 GB RAM. To hedge my bets, I also went and got the base 14” at Best Buy and used it for a week. While it was still very quick and I never really pushed it to the limit in Photoshop and Illustrator, I could tell the medium load I was running was inching towards the full RAM capacity. So I went ahead and returned the base model and sticking with the upgraded one. Yes, it’s $650 more, but if you can swing it, to me, it gives the AWESOME (not just great) performance you’re looking for….

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Agree!

@NikCan66 2 года назад

Always brilliant video yet again easily explain the difference suitable for photographers

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@Louis87777 2 года назад

THANK YOU! Whatever further optimisation for unified memory will be done, RAM still matters even with insanely fast SSDs for swap. I’d also add: it is not atypical to use LR / C1 and Photoshop open all at once with Chrome and some other stuff in the background. Slowdowns and beachballs on the 16GB felt painful just watching, and I know of images where my current 32GB on my intel drove me to the point I wanted to stop working on a given image. These new macbooks are so impressive overall, and other reviews had me seriously question whether I’d need 32GB RAM. Now I know I do (I thought simply using the money for 2TB would be the way to go…) Thank you so much for your videos, they are absolute gold.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You're welcome! And RAM to SSD swap are fast not but if you compare even on the midline M1 Pro it goes up to 200 GB/s, the read and write on the SSD is about 5 GB/s so you are talking something that is 40 times slower when it has to swap.

@FloDevo 2 года назад

Your videos are amazing! Thanks for so much work!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You're welcome

@rafograph854 Год назад

Great comparison. Thank you, Art

@ArtIsRight Год назад

Thank you! Cheers!

@suzatlarge 2 года назад

This video is extraordinarily helpful to. me. My Lightroom and Photoshop processing isn't generally as sophisticated as your examples, but I've hit lags in PS especially when the number of layers has multiplied. I'm going to trade in my M1 mini for a new MBP with the M1 Pro chip. Now for sure it will have 32GB RAM and a 1TB internal drive. I may get also upgrade the CPU and GPU cores too. This demo has helped me prioritize these decisions.Thank you!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

One more video coming tomorrow that will talk about the M1 Pro vs MAX

@michaelsandman7510 2 года назад

Thanks very much -- this makes me feel much more comfortable with the configuration I paid extra for (10 core/16 core GPU; 32 GB, 1 TB). And it's so much more real-world than other reviews, which rely on canned speed-test apps.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Great to hear!

@IanChou1228 2 года назад

very practical review! thanks for sharing!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@thomasdurselen1644 2 года назад

Without having seen your video I just ordered a MBP 14 with the top-of-the-line Pro-Processor and 32 Gig RAM. My cameras are a Leica SL2 and a Leica Q2. Both produce RAW (DNG)-Files with around 85 Megs each. After having watched your excellent video I am relieved that I choose 32 Gigs of RAM just by instinct. Thx a lot.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You're welcome!

@kaanaslan_tr 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight S

@brandondelgado7731 2 года назад

Thank you! I have been trying to figure out which one would be best as a digital artist that works mostly in photoshop and Painter and about 50-100 layers. You e helped clear that up for me.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You're very welcome!

@TobyCostaRica 2 года назад

2:00 that’s my exact system. Looking forward to future tests.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

The compilation of test video should release tomorrow.

@TobyCostaRica 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight you already received it? Mine has a eta mid to late Dec

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Yes it came 2 weeks early ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5ESZDAeZ9vo.html

@RoccoDaOne 2 года назад

11:25 "Preview happens almost quickly, very instaneously" :) I recently discovered your channel and I'm halfway through your videos. Very detailed, very enjoyable, thanks

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@Evermore2017 2 года назад

So glad these videos (as well as Tech Chap and MaxTech) came out which stopped me from going Max 24/32 and instead went to Pro 16/32 (2TB). Didn’t really save me money but it gained me battery life, swap, heat and fan noise.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Between the M1 Pro and M1 Max 14 & 16" Models the battery life gained / loss is marginal. Swap is related to RAM function and at least 32 is good depending on the tasks. As far as heat they are comparable much better than the Intel so anything is a gain really. Fan noise if you want minimal go with 16" more room for thermal.

@TheDanishSpaceman 2 года назад

At last someone showing succesfully the advantage of having lots of ram even with the M1-gen og Macs. Great vid. Thanks! :)

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

👍🏼

@smartbiney801 2 года назад

Finally a video worthy of my time. My watch will be legendary 💪

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

🖖🏼

@drewcastelhano5113 2 года назад

What I needed to know. Thanks!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You bet!

@cas04aa 2 года назад

Perfect review!! Thanks!!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

👍🏼

@leowerner.berlin Год назад

As the previous commentators have already written, this is literally the best comparison on RU-vid. You are comparing the MacBook Pros with only one program running and not like other RU-vidrs with the maximum of opened Programs. For me it was clear that I will go for a 16" MacBook Pro because of the larger screen area, with an 1TB SSD, but I was not sure if 16 GB of RAM will be enough for me or if I should upgrade to 32 GB. Your video showed me that I should go for the 32 GB variant. Thank you.

@ArtIsRight Год назад

Thank you so much and I appreciate the super thanks!

@enriquegatmaitan7369 2 года назад

Awesome job on this review! As others have said, seeing performance other than import/export is just as valuable - so thank you for that! I'm curious though, at what file size does refined selection work smoothly on the 16GB machine? Would it run smooth at half the file resolution (96MP photo) for example?

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

If you multitask and have multiple programs open, you should not get the 16GB. I'll have to see if I have time to test this or not. But if anything, it will work on the 16 GB just more file swap.

@johncallery814 2 года назад

Great demonstration on the importance of Ram when using Lightroom. Amazing that 32gb ram can make that adjustment without stuttering. As I mentioned in previous comments I got the 16" MBP with 64GB ram, but it seems like 32gb would work fine for my A7RIV panorama's and photoshop work. I should get my MPB by the end of November and I look forward to reworking some larger projects to see the improvement.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

If you got the 64 GB with the Max there are some surprises that you will find when working with large files in Lightroom Classic and PS. However, there are also areas where it is just ok as well. But I have speculation as to why and support for my thoughts coming up in a video soon. But for what you do, you will love it!

@lucyboldo 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight i am planning in buying this config, mbp 14 max with +64gb ram but after watching this video and this comment I dont know if the surprise you are talking about is going to be good or bad? Does it worth the upgrade?

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Hi Lucy, I am gathering data right now and a video on this will come out Monday. But what I can tell you right now is that more RAM does speed up Photoshop and LR Pano Merge by more than 50% so if your workflow involves large files and you are going to keep the machine for a long time get the 64 GB.

@TobyCostaRica 2 года назад

How long do you keep your laptops and cameras for? With the small extra cost of the added ram that you can’t add later I think it’s worth the better user experience to stay with 64.

@MrCaptainnova1 2 года назад

Very nice and detailed video! Would be super interesting to see you compare/review the photo image quality of the Mavic 3! Only saw reviews of its video mode so far...

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

I wish DJI would send me one to review! I am still too small for them to reach out. But I appreciate your feedback and complement.

@MrCaptainnova1 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight That would be so awesome! Maybe one day…

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

🤞🏼

@fr3238 2 года назад

A very useful test. Thanks!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Sure thing!

@BucNasty32 2 года назад

Bloody finally!!! I’ve been waiting for a channel to make a video based on photography and actual usage. Thank you so much for this. I’m going to order the max with 64gb and this helped solidify my choice. Fantastic video.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@JandRstudios 2 года назад

I've heard that the SSD 1TB have faster rad and write speeds than the 512 models, i would be interested in seeing a base model with 16gigs of ram but with an upgraded ssd performance. Great video, i have the base model 14 inch stock model and it fits my needs but these videos are truely helpful for others.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5ESZDAeZ9vo.html negligible difference, there's some but not enough.

@Alanvictoryoung 2 года назад

Excellent information! Thank you.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You bet!

@colinc167 2 года назад

Great video! Did you notice much difference in workflow with the example 1000 RAW images in Lightroom Classic? I’m curious if there is much benefit when pasting presets, going from one photo to another, etc. in the Develop module.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

For basic editing with just LRC open 16 GB does really well, it is fast, but when you start to multi task that can start to slow things down because of the swap. So 32 GB is still best.

@rutkowski1490 2 года назад

The more of your videos I watch, the more you assure me about the configuration I ordered: 16 inch M1 pro , 10/16 cores, 32GB, 2TB. Since I'm a graphic designer with Photoshop, InDesign and Illustrator being my main programs and doing some music with larger sample libraries on the side, it seems I made the right choice. Thanks again for your detailed content, especially with your focus on use for pros!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@MM-MLT 2 года назад

Lol you can use all those apps on a dell Inspiron 😂 I think even the base is fine for Adobe apps except apps like after effects

@rutkowski1490 2 года назад

@@MM-MLT why should I? I'm working as a graphic designer for 15 years now on mac.

@MM-MLT 2 года назад

@@rutkowski1490 I’m talking about the power of the laptop not necessarily the preference of windows and Apple lol. For me I would have gone with the 14 10/14 16 for graphic design but the screen is way too small for me. I went with the 16 10/16 16GB 1TB instead. Great machines but maybe somewhat of an overkill.

@rutkowski1490 2 года назад

@@MM-MLT then I guess you dont work with large files, when 16GB RAM is enough for you.

@reviewthatmatters557 2 года назад

Thank you. Finally someone speaks the truth and provide real use case. There is also a huge benefit with more rams is that the swap disk is less used and will provide better lifespan for the SSD. I personally went for the 64GB ram version because I see it as better value and more future proof so without the needs to upgrade for many years to come.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Great call! That is exactly my point!

@Trevsci1 Год назад

This is brilliant, thank you

@ArtIsRight Год назад

You're very welcome!

@benberman4656 2 года назад

Well you convinced me to return the 16gb model i just ordered and buy the 32gb model that’s currently 5-6 weeks out. I appreciate this thorough review because everyone on youtube said 16gb was more than enough. My 2015 macbook pro does exactly the same thing you showed on the 16gb it just can’t keep up with a lot of layers and adjustments.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

No, the issue is that in synthetic or straight forward benchmark without a deep dive test, you won't see these things happening. So I am glad that you'll have what fit your workflow best.

@benberman4656 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight thanks again for the great info!

@hardikpshah25 Год назад

Oh man! Thank you so much! You are great!😀😊

@ArtIsRight Год назад

You're welcome!

@Speedster2707 2 года назад

OMG! Great video. I should have watched this before I ordered my 14" Mac Book Pro about 4 hours ago. Luckily I ordered the 10 core, 32GB ram and 1TB SSD. Whew! I use LR a lot and PS somewhat. And yes, I sometimes also keep my Safari open along w/my Mail. Just bought a Canon R5 w/45mp sensor. So I need the speed.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Have fun!

@dennisg2443 Год назад

Art, I just found your website today and am very impressed!! I intuitively moved to 64GB on the 2019 MBP, and when the 2021 model came out, I bit the bullet on the same configuration, while I could still get a good trade-in value on the "PowerPC destined" Intel hardware. On the work I do - mainly large Z7 panos - it is not unusual to hit 50 GB on the activity monitor. BTW, what activity monitor do you use that is embedded in your menu bar? Thank you Art.

@ArtIsRight Год назад

bjango.com/mac/istatmenus/ Pano merging more RAM will help the merge speed. However, more RAM is definitely used on brushes and localized adjustment. Also LRC compound RAM usage over time. And if you multi task and have multiple programs open then more RAM is definitely helpful.

@mm_137 2 года назад

In love with your content ♥️

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@danieltkaczyk105 Год назад

Thank you, super helpful!!! 🙏🏼🍻

@ArtIsRight Год назад

No problem!

@jshaw6600 2 года назад

Wow ... fully convinced me. I was bummed that I have to wait 3 weeks for this "custom" 32gb RAM MBP to come in, but it'll be worth it to avoid the frustration of the dreaded slowdown in Lightroom editing.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Good call!

@MichaelD115 2 года назад

Thank you, this is the most useful mac m1 pro comparison I have seen. Definitely going for 32GB now

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@marcelomachado9703 2 года назад

Regarding Lightroom and Photoshop running at the same time on my workflow, I'm definitely going to order M1 pro with 64gbytes and 24 cores. Thank you for your reviews!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

I do the same thing! These test don't even have 2 opening at the same time but you give me an idea for another test.

@zoephoto42 2 года назад

Thank you for this!!! I watched so many videos saying I should save money because the 16GB performance is so good - and while it's true, if you are a heavy Adobe user you'll be glad you have the 32GB. I bought the 16 and returned it after a week for the 32 because with the 16 I was in constant yellow memory pressure using 5+GB of swap. While it was able to switch around and run far more smoothly than my previous Intel MacBook Pro, the machine was still compensating because I was out of memory, and I did get a few small hangups in the first week of use on medium sized projects. This was the only video I found that really shows how 32 benefits you in Adobe apps - and I'm so glad I upgraded.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@tonyvokey7607 Год назад

Absolutely fantastic video, I am so glad I watched it. I had myself convinced that 16GB or RAM was suffice (wishful thinking because I didn’t want to wait!!). Having watched this I will special order the 32GB. Thank you very much for this super informative video!!! 🙏

@ArtIsRight Год назад

Thank you! Glad it help!

@hiepvophan 2 года назад

Thank you so much for this. None of the reviews so far are able to show the difference between 16gb and 32gb for productivity. I have done some large panos myself. Now waiting for your review of the 64gb.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@godsinbox 2 года назад

keepin it real. Thanks buddy

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Always!

@sid6697 2 года назад

Thank you so much. I have pretty much stopped watching any other channel for mac related reviews. Actual real world testing not jus wasting time showing export times which are literally the last 1% of the actual process.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Hey, thank you!

@2107J 2 года назад

again nailed it! very comprehensive and real life demo on why 32GB is actually necessary for photographers who work with stitched, stacked, hdr artwork :) thx for your reviews.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You're welcome!

@insomnia09 2 года назад

Hi there! Thanks for the contribution! How about simple zoom in in develop mode in LR? Any differences for how long it takes until it snaps to being sharp! I am underwhelmed by the base M1 in that regard and would be interested in the difference with Pro or Max. That’s something I notice every day.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

No differences what so ever, 10 cores are the same on the pro and max. For Dev module there's not much that can be done to speed that up, since every time you go in to DEV mode and zoom in LRC reads from the RAW files directly and not the preview cache. You can try to render smart previews and see if that might help. it is certainly something to consider. This is a software limitation more than machine capability.

@CarinaKircher 2 года назад

Dankeschön, really helpful video!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

@987dcm 2 года назад

Super helpful. The best I’ve found addressing this exact question so thank you! Also, what’s the name of the application your using to see the RAM usage, Pressure, etc real time on your machines? Thanks again!

@987dcm 2 года назад

*you’re

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

iStat Menu bjango.com/mac/istatmenus/

@rlysakowski 2 года назад

When M1 came out last year I decided to go easy and got 8 core Air with 8Gb of RAM. While it's fine for LR classic (my biggest files are Leica Q2 90BM files) it's not sufficient to smoothly run Capture One 21, even the version with M1 support. It was running just fine on my XPS 15 I7/32MB but not on M1 Air. The main issue is lagginess even in simple operations like changing exposure or displaying/hiding mask. It's laggy. Other people reported no issues but they usually have 16GB of RAM. It's still fine for me as Air was my 'test drive' and I was still going to get the 16" given it's coming with SD card slot. Now it's here and I am leaning towards 10/16 core with 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD. I think I will skip 14" due to lower battery size.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Good choice and I agree with you about the M1 Air statement. The good and bad part about the M1 air is that there's no fan. So in heavy task the computer would thermo throttle down by quite a bit.

@Inspectergadget69 Год назад

Your review had me checking LR performance on my desktop and my MacBook Pro M2 14 inch with 12 cores/16G RAM/1TB SSD. I was honestly quite shocked that just reading say my 6500 photos from 2013 would be such hard work for the CPU, they really spooled up, as I scrolled and the thumbnails were being generated from the RAW images. The difference though was that the desktop which is a i7-5820K CPU with 32G RAM made it look easier I would say quicker than the MBP which quickly maxxed out the cores while the desktop just cruised through with 50% or so on the cores. The desktop also has liquid cooling which helps, the CPU temps don't rise very much. LR offers software for both the macos and Windows so it is easy to switch back and forth as I wish. It also has an MSI RTX2060 card in it. The desktop made me realise, that mighty though my MBP is, the desktop is better where real performance is needed. Portability and peformance per Watt is the strength of the MBP. I only upgraded the RAM on the desktop a week ago and it cost $130 AUD which is less than $100USD compared to $700AUD to do the same upgrade on a MBP. The use of very large panoramic images is not something I would do so I doubt I need 32G on the MBP. Your video though is excellent and it did make me think...I did learn something from it.

@ArtIsRight Год назад

👍🏼

@argobrandi 2 года назад

This is by far the best review regarding RAM on the new M1 system, as for After Effect do you think i can get by 32Gb ram on the base 14" is too? thank you Art!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you! At least 32 but you should be ok!

@JamesBreitenstein 2 года назад

Great review, thank you very much, I wanted to go with the base model, not anymore now

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you. You know what you want and need ;)

@Tompacc 2 года назад

Finally someone who tested the computers right! Great showcase to show how the 32gb may be better or not. Great video!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Glad you liked it!

@halunkedestodes6566 2 года назад

As an architect I deeply appreciate this Video! Usually i work on A0 posters, why ram is essential. I would love to see a comparisson between 32 and 64 GB!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

I am working on that video. And I would say that unless you really can push it, there's not going to be much difference. Also RAM in previous Mac systems vs now is a bit different as well. macOS manages it much more efficiently now and it is a lot faster than Mac from the yesteryear. :)

@JoeCunha 2 года назад

After watching 15+ reviews and still undecided. THIS is the video that did it right and now I know what I’m getting.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Glad to help!

@sekaf4125 2 года назад

Excellent job. Thank you. You have been probably asked but with the power of these. What about future proofing? Great job again

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you! I hear you. Future Proofing in computer is like an oxymoron, where it does not really exist. Because the next year model will be better and so on. But in this context, only you can answer that question and it is based on your usage and what you do not just today but into the future. i.e. if you do only photo now, will you get into video? If you know for certain than the M1 Max is a better choice, if not then M1 Pro will do just fine. Memory 32 GB is the sweet spot but if you think you might need more, then get 64. Although if you watch this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5ESZDAeZ9vo.html you will clearly see that 64 is great if you can use it but for most creative it is aspirational. SSD get the size that you need in the future and don't concern yourself with the speed. It won't make that big of a difference even when it comes to swap files. So the best thing that you can do is not necessary future proof the machine but rather select a configuration that is future proof for your use. Cheers

@sekaf4125 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much for the response that is probably the best answer that I’ve ever gotten I really appreciate your video and I’m going to jump on this I’m retiring from the Painting contracting world and start my photography business full-time. I’ve been doing it now for 30 years as a side and ready to start really having fun. What a great time for these computers they do seem remarkably well built and fast

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Ditto! And congrats on your business!

@paulkaye5076 2 года назад

Thank you so much for doing this! Excellent video. You've helped me decide on the Mac Book with 32GB. Quick additional question if I may - 14" vs 16". Is the additional screen size and battery worth it given extra cost and weight. Is the 14" good enough for photo editing? I'll probably mosty use an external wide-screen monitor, but I will do a certain amount of editing on the inbuilt screen.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

This is all personal preference and for me the 14" screen is too small but I know photographers who edits on 13" screen and they are Ok with it, all is about the perspective and perception. My best advice is to visit an Apple Store or Best Buy and give it a go for yourself. You can always buy a machine from apple as well and if you don't like it you can always return it. As far as additional screen size and battery life, I would say if you are buying for the screen yes if you are buying for battery, you should really ask yourself what your primary needs are and why you are getting it. If you want light weight then the 16" might not be the one for you. So lots of factor that really goes beyond just machine specs.

@paulkaye5076 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight Thank you. I think the 16" is the better choice on reflection. There's no substitute for screen space really. But I'll pop along to the local Apple store and take a look. There's a good Apple reseller near to me so it's a sensible thing to do. Thanks so much for your reply!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

@bretth8292 2 года назад

Well done. Finally a review that is a "real life" example and isn't just comparing benchmarks. I'm a long term Windows laptop user and very seriously considering a move to the new MacBook Pro. I have found LRC performance to be an issue, particularly for HDR merged images; I often use 5 images with up to +/- 2EV. I would be interested in your perspective on 16GB vs 32GB for this scenario.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

For HDR merge that is not an issue at all, the machine are much faster than the intel counter part. As far as 16 vs 32 GB, it does not make too much of a difference, but if you are a multitasker or work with large files then I would go with a minimum of 32 GB. Or spring for the 64, which can speed up some task but I think overall it is overkill for many.

@bretth8292 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight Thank you. I have found HDR merge is (frustratingly) slow on my 16GB Intel laptop so it sounds like I will see a significant improvement with the MB Pro. Sounds like I am like you in terms of being a multi-tasker. I suspect my current LRC issues are more because I have too many other things clogging up RAM.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

HDR merge on intel machine or on the M1 yes but on these as you can see in my graph they are super fast. Also this is the reason why you should get more RAM but as I found out HDR merges uses more CPU than RAM on the system.

@KevinDodo-ji6fw 2 года назад

finally, i found the best review video for M1 pro i'm looking for, i really want to know how the performance on the 16GB version because upgrade to 32GB is not cheap. really helpful for me. i do like say thank you for your great job. cheers.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thank you!

@anothervisionofthings Год назад

Really interesting review ! i like to watch 4k HDR content on youtube, would you recommend to upgrade the base model with more Ram or more CPU cores ?

@ArtIsRight Год назад

I go with more RAM, You'll see bigger performance jump compared to CPU cores.

@peppeh 2 года назад

Great walkthrough this! I do a lot of work with interior hdr (often 10 or more unique photos consisting of 3 or more files each) so I’m interested in that workflow time for previews to show and creating the actual file. As for now I’m on a “in between” - solution (MacBook air M1, no upgrades) and it takes forever. Have you any info on what differences to expect when upgrading to a maxed out MacBook Pro Max? And: do you have some kind of guide on how to setup your external ssd, swap file solution? Do I even need one with said upgrade?

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Watch this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5ESZDAeZ9vo.html go to the HDR section in LRC you won't see too much of a differences between the max, but from the Air M1 yes, night and day. Those M1 are not really meant for Pro workflow and when pushed hard they only have so much power so they will slow down. Also for these computers you can't really set up an external SSD for swap at the OS level, there may be terminal scripts but I wouldn't use it because it will create more issues than solve. If you upgrade the SSD you should be ok.

@peppeh 2 года назад

@@ArtIsRight Thanks!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

👍🏼

@oliverlane4050 2 года назад

Thanks for this, really interesting to see real world uses. What do you think about batch processing 500 plus files? My 2017 i7 with 16gb would really slow down a third into a job using 45mp Z7 files, do you think that is a RAM issue? I do seem to run into similar though with my relatively high end Ryzen system with 64gb RAM 🤔

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

I think the issue that you are seeing is more thermo throttling, meaning that a while into the export the processor gets too hot and can't cool down fast enough so it slows down the process and therefore run slower and emit less heat. This allows time for the processor to cool down. It happens a lot with intel processor because the TDP even on the mobile processor are not really good which is why Apple went their own way. So for these machine they don't run hot enough for thermo throttling, this and the performance on battery and plug in power is the same.

@subirthapa8542 2 года назад

Nice Detailed Video

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Thanks! 👍

@cheesun124 2 года назад

The swap happens well below the threshold, and yeah, that's a wear on the SSD. I'm thinking 64Gb too for future proofing. If this is my main PC, then I'd plan to have it longer term.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

Great call!

@stevepeterson5670 Год назад

Thanks!

@ArtIsRight Год назад

Thank you!

@user-qr8xl3ig4b 2 года назад

Thank you !!!

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

You bet!

@gaylorpetro1964 2 года назад

This was very helpful ! Thank you! As a photographer and « beginner » editor I have one question though : I ordered the 14’’ with 32 Go and a 512 SSD. Can I just buy an external SSD instead of changing the configuration ? I’ll mostly work on Lightroom (not on files as heavy as the one you used in the video 😅) FCP, AE and Blender.

@ArtIsRight 2 года назад

External SSD works too! You are good. 32 GB will help a lot!