Why Prisoner Proven Innocent Can't Be Released 

gtfoanna I know just a imagine it’s u they wasted YOUR whole life and your family,how unfair

@@GreenSummerr And now he can only remininsce about his fun times with his family at Disneyland, Disneyworld, whereever, the beach, New York, Vegas, hawaii,etc. never to do that again (remember Tom Jones, or Elvis, or other's 1960s countr classic tear-jerker Green Green grass of home0

Yeah they should just decide enough is enough and let him go free

Just think, If this problem is lurking in a country like US, what is the situation in India going to be like?

Understatement.

Yeah he never got a chance to be the father and husband he was s'posed to be. It's so sad.

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Karan K can’t just easily place blame on others like that especially since we don’t know what goes on behind closed doors

Rights don't exist they can be taking away at any moment. It should called privilege's.

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I hope he gets a big paycheck from the government and the people who lied will get what they deserve for what they did to him.

Good news at least they could have done that a long time ago

That woman who swears it was him needs atleast a year in jail in my opinion

@@matthewwilliams4065 50

@@chaitanya928 he deserves billions...

Nah this isnt just sad, it's straight up depressing

I mean my dad was not in prison and he didn't spend time with me

Hes set free

@@pepper5117 Wait when?

@@yellowcactusproductions Theres another comment on here that says he was freed March 12, 2021 But then a reply to that comment says, no hes not I just signed the petition to let him out ... So... IDK? 🤷‍♀️

I thought the same thing. How does he sleep at night knowing he let an innocent man rot in jail?

Does this judge deserve to get paid?

even then he should still get released if he is proven innocent more so than guilty.

@@bjkl4520 this is the problem with remembering or popularizing simple catchy phrases such as "innocent until proven guilty". It doesnt capture any of the nuances of the actual situation/system leading to people getting riled up when the poorly made "rule" is broken.

You mean he should have his head turned backwards

TATTOO VAMPIRE1966 don’t joke this is real

Jude Hamill no cause she needs to suffer the same thing she set the innocent man to do, life sentence is probably worse than death

Exactly. What was even the point of her lying?

American justice is insane who ask evidence from evidence

@@nkem3524 it could be that she was paid off

that is exactly what I was thinking

@@Lucasjj2010 i agree with you and what about his reporations???!!!!1

@@PAULSHAPIRO-go5qb I made that comment like a year ago do you expect me to remember what this video was?

Frankly. So does the judge.

agree 100%. The witnesses need to pay.

He had an aliby that proved his innocence

@Anthony Guarino innocent until proven guilty

Yea like wft there's supposed to be these things called innocent until proven guilty, and beyond a reasonable doubt. Neither were displayed here, in fact the opposite happened.

Period.

supposed to be innocent until proven guilty

Applezz that’s so true

Yet it’s you’re innocent until proven guilty, but the country doesn’t act in this manor at all.

Well yes but actually no

The system is sexist against men like that

Money will get you out of jail, and it works much faster than evidence of someone's innocence.

Nice to see..>:< since I just SIGNED the petition..meraning he's not really freed.

Where can I go online to find out for sure either way?

@@SteveCarras try me

@@SteveCarras he was released from custody and and the higher courts are reviewing his trial, with the case against him flimsy at best and nonexistent at worst, and with no prosecution against him, it’s pretty safe to say he’s in the clear

@@GhostHunterDipperPines Ayy when are you going to the mistery shack again?

That’s awesome!

I hope he wins

No amount of money can compensate them taking his life away. Everyone involved in that trial should get life in prison

Can you please link details 🥺

Too late.

Your average cop is a horrible detective

@@medicinecloud5488 well that's like saying your average McDonalds cleaner is a bad chief

He was proven guilty twice.

GirlOnInternet “proven” 😞

@@girloninternet1188 with what evidence?

GameModJr this deserves top comment

GameModJr yes

And even more comments

And the mistress who was his alibi

GameModJr She was livin it better than Spencer, she is out of the picture, however it is sad that the boy had to grow up without a father figure because he was falsely accused.

He's freed

You're never safe in America, despite the slogans

Ever met a woman?

Police testimony should be viewed as biased witness testimony-not fact. Most innocent ppl are in because of their lies.

@@andknuckles101 that's the reason why I won't step one foot to America. I was planning to start working and living there for some time but now after hearing about all these stories I won't go even near it lol. If a local can get so easily wrongly punished then what can happen to a eastern european speaking broken english lol

That’s why I’m moving soon as possible lol don’t want to be here long enough after I’m 18 to get sent to prison on a lying witness

Welcome to American courts

He was proven guilty though so it'd his job to overturn. It's harsh but it's how it works

@@sriwidyakelly1905 except he wasnt proven guilty, the evidence was nowhere nesr enough to get a man convicted, i mean seriously "1 person saw 2 silhouettes" "ok its this guy. Send em to prison for 30+ years" i mean for all we know any of the witnesses or literally ANYONE within a 100 mile radius couldve reasonably committed the crime

​@@noahjones9833 Once you're convicted of a crime, you're considered "guilty" no matter what the evidence is. Yeah, morally, he's not guilty, but legally he is. Once you're convicted and therefore (no matter the evidence) "proven guilty," the only way to get out is to prove your innocence.

Here here!

YAY

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He could've had visits

He probably visited him. But still lost a lot of precious time

He probably had visits but its obviously not the same as living with him

he missed watchimg jos child grow

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yep, that's the saddest thing about it, you spent almost half of your whole life behind bars for nothing, and they wouldn't even compensate you for what they did, the judge and the witnesses deserves a punishment equivalent to what spencer has gone through,

He never got to see is son grow up...

One guy got 79 bucks for a longer sentence, and now he is suing.

Yes,that's heartbreaking The judge and the witness should be tortured and killed in the most painful way

@@mrcricket8464 no, they should not be tortured or killed. Financial

Unfortunately, given the incentives of elected prosecutors and the quality of their average voter, our system is only as strong as jurors are independent, intellectually honest, and insightful.

The correct term is "Gulity until proven innocent"

@@user-nw5nj5wy7m which country you reside in? Just curious

That's the thing though. He *was* technically proven guilty in the first trial. The presumption of innocence flips then and now he has to prove he's not guilty.

@@theRAVEN1337 Are you commenting on his phrasing? Just reversing it to actually fit the convorsation. Not 100% true just joking

Pretty much

Its because we werent that smart back then

Malvin he’s still in prison?!?!

@@Monkeyman10367 Yep, still is

Shocking 😢

Especially women

Unless they change

This. Lying in court should get you the sentence the person you tried to get locked up would have got. Exceptions obviously for misremembering (it happens) but people like that lady who know they saw nothing and even had it proven to them still sticking to their guns and the other 'witnesses' should have trials and be put in for life when found guilty.

In islam it's one of the most despicable things someone could do .... they will pay in day of judgement

Can’t happen. Our memory is painfully fragile so there would be no way to distinguish between people misremembering and explicitly lying.

*gets off Scot free due to technicality*

That's America for you

Yay america is such a great place!!!!

Change your name to Baaqir Sulaiman and remember to state that your religion is Islam and you ll be ok.

Freedom.

Who wants more papers

Its not corruption

@Abdul Jalloh , YAHWEH EL ELOHIM knows all.

Yeah

Yes, sadly the statute of limitations and the difficulty to prove perjury makes prosecuting her impossible.

LaMarque Drew yeah that’s sad, think of that child, what would he think about his dad ?

That lady should be in jail, not him!!!

He's still in

@@mataharii161 Shouldn't she actually be tried for perjury, since she lied on the witness stand?

@@mihaibmt5936 if that son becomes a killer that hates society, i wouldn't blame him. Sometimes we create our own monsters.

You deserve it. You should have said "not guilty". Although I understand it was not easy for you weakling under peer pressure. May the conscience strike your soul forever and ever

why didn't you just vote no guilty. Doesn't it have to be unanimous?

FlexTape _User666 Makes sense.

I bet she got some nice "gifts" to remember seeing his face from some nice people in uniforms. Would be a shame if someone would notice that in a trial, right?

Sure I think so too. But think of the consequences. If witnesses knew they'd be put in jail for being wrong. How many people would come forward if they're not 100% sure of what they saw

shadow demon you bring up a very interesting point, it seemed like that lady was convinced by the police that that man is who she saw when she knew very well she couldn’t make out a face, all I’m saying is if she comes forward as a witness at least be honest that she could not make out a face and that it was just possible

ChaosChampion exactly what I thought, seems like she was influenced to have a solid false testimony or unstable testimony whether it was by the police or someone else but still she should of just been honest and for that, for lying and for treating someone’s life with so little care I believe she should get what she tried to give the man

It may be too late for that

@@Adam-ru7wd never I say we hang them for their crimes

Harry robinson agreed

Harry robinson 100% agree

Barsteward they should be killed for what they did

Unfortunately, once theyre behind bars, its guilty till proven innocent

Proof of guilt is usually considered being convicted by a jury. So legally he is consider guilty

It’s Texas, there it’s you’re guilty until prove innocent, and if you are innocent you’re probably still guilty

In America there is only 1 situation in which you are innocent until proven guilty, that is a wealthy, powerful, and very much white person with no priors, and maybe on a very rare occasion just plain lucky. If someone is missing any one of those traits or may a Supreme being help them if they're missing more than 1 of those traits, they will be considered guilty until proven innocent. The American justice system may have better living conditions than other countries but is a terrible system when it comes to providing "fair" trial...

If he cant prove it he cant prove it

It's like something out of Ace Attorney.

This comment feels like a riddle because I don’t understand much of it xD

It’s like I’m taking the comment to a whole different level of conspiracy theories.

@@omergouner7850 it's not that hard to understand stinkyface poopoohead 🙄🤡😂

Crazy cow well I read things differently, and it’s hard to understand. Now calling me stinky poopooface is just like a 7 year old calling me names

Caught in a liiiieee~ (song by Jimin of BTS)

@@ndpd7695 no

@@lynking249 why

@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz102 B T S = C A N C E R

She's another case of someone getting high off the attention and power of life and freedom over another. The DA probably treated her like a queen as long as she stuck to her "Eye witness account"

Wrong, there was enough evidence to Convict no matter how bad or tainted that evidence might be. The Jury determines what is factual not the Judge unless it is a trial with no jury.

@@richb313 The only evidence was the testimony of a woman who has proven to be lieing

More than that, he's still locked up

@@BenjiM514 sorry, I think I commented on the wrong comment

This is because the common law system that America use, in Common law system there is only one guidelines and it is the judge faith in the Court. No matter how innocent you are, if the judge say you are wrong then you are wrong

exiledPostman I know right I punched the wall so many times

I was angry as well, and as I was watching the video, I was hoping that he may have been able to take that plea. I doubted it, but I was hopeful. That man’s life was over 30+ yrs ago.

Unfortunately this happens far more often then anyone is willing to accept. There's never any true justice in cases like this which is horrible. It makes me so sick and what's worse the majority of people think cases like this are 1 in a billion when it's far more often. It's a problem I don't even think you can truly fix

Is Benjamin Spencer still alive? Just curious

What makes it even worse is the fact that they pulled Double Jeopardy on him which is illegal. You can not be convicted for the same crime twice and they actually did that.

why was parole knocked back time after time.

@@mrluigi9923 an excellent question.

@@mrluigi9923 if it isn't a for profit prison, the parole board will look at things like anger management, compliance with mental health medications, educational achievement, etc. If he spent all his time proving his innocence and didn't do any of that, the parole board will reject it. If it's a private prison, they will reject just to keep their numbers up and ensure profitability.

If I we're Spencer I would literally cry every day and get depression

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Last time I checked it was innocent until proven guilty 😂

@@janani1826 That's just a slogan to make people feel better.

"Prove I'm guilty."

@@janani1826 he was proven guilty. now he needs to unprove it

@@eyallev But he wasn't, this is proof and reason that witnesses are not concrete evidence and should not be the sole reason somebody is sent to jail without further reasoning. Without forensic tests or pleading guilty, witnesses are not enough because some random citizen that says they saw it can easily be wrong or lying.

well no but actually yes

well actually yes and no

actually well yes but no

Does this remind anyone else of the Salem witch trials?

Well yes but actually yes

welcome to the american justice system they need to keep those prisons full or they lose money!

Jaspy that’s true, and most prison and a cash cow owned by a company just locking innocent lives just for a couple hundred bucks

U guys know you can be released after being convicted it has happened before. This is just a very rare case. Also the judge didn’t decide if he was guilty it was a jury. The jury may have had bias that the Defence didn’t realize when selecting the jury. Also this guy probably had a public defender for his case which may be why he lost an easy case.

The thing is he was convicted of being guilty. So now he has to provide undeniable evidence he's innocent. Despite how he never was undeniably proven guilty.

Should take it to the supreme Court claiming innocent before guilt wasn't properly applied and that he was denied a basic American right.

There's a reason that science doesn't look upon human witnesses as a strong form of evidence.

I have the same exact taste of RU-vid vids

*BIG BRAIN*

Prosecution needs to provide evidence to convince beyond a reasonable doubt that he's guilty. There was still doubt.

Scrubs

The first one is a complete lie.

Not really, it's innocent until proven guilty to a bunch of ordinary people who are conscripted to act as jury, and then you are guilty until you can prove your innocence unless a judge or governor realizes a gross miscarriage of justice and chooses to issue you a pardon.

Those are lies. They still treat him as guilty even after proven innocent.

Ahh the old 1 - 2 switcharoo

Did you talk to your lawmakers about the injustice?

Its bruh

He legitimately is expected to prove his innocence, even when the judge says he thinks the man is innocent. I can't believe this happened in America.

To me, a person must be assumed innocent until you prove they aren't. If the judge don't do that, they should be dismissed.

@@memesthatmakeyouwannadie3133 I’m sorry but if I were given this same info but with all geographic markers removed and was then asked ‘in what country did this happen?’ My answer would always be America. Only America is that circular on evidence and the idea of guilt and innocence.

Seriously, what happened to innocent until proven guilty? The fact that he can't prove that he didn't do it is irrelevant, if the state can't prove that he did in fact commit the crime beyond reasonable doubt (which it can't). So he should be set free.

if 12 people can sit there and think "this guy done it", then he obviously did it. should have taken the plea deal

Walter It’s impossible for the witness to see if it was him from 93 feet.

@@syroxide are you trolling?

Spencer: bruh sound effect #2

@@abdallahshakeel7036 I bet he feels really bitter about not taking that plea deal. all I'm saying. What he did and didn't do is irrelevant.

thats the beauty of laws

No its "guilty until proven innocent... then guilty again cause we cant free him"

@Christiaan van Mierlo It's still "innocent until proven guilty" but here, I'd say that they failed so horribly that they should've been disbarred for such gross injustices inflicted by their failure to hold up the law.

Christiaan van Mierlo you mean Netherlands idiot

@Christiaan van Mierlo I can certainly relate to your disappointment in law .... I certainly believe that an innocent behind bars is much more of an injustice than 10 guilty criminals free and on the road, of the same crime.

Mumeer Saleh We can naruto run so we are faster than their bullets.

Lets do this thing

Ight we’ll also gather the aliens from area 51

seems a job for the naruto runners

Lets get those area 51 aliens and raid that later

Not after conviction. Then it is the other way around.

Yeah but Only for rapists 🙄

NO it's not. Once you are assumed guilty, the burden of proof is on the prosecution to provide evidence, sometimes that evidence is only a so called 'witness' (who COULD be lying). But it works like this (for an example) Hypothetically lets say, IF you are suspected of a crime, and enough evidence can be found/created/presented to arrest you (could be a witness on the spot), you are taken to jail to wait for a hearing. The taking to jail part is your fist clue you are guilty and must prove your innocents. Now they give you the information that they have that they are using to PROVE your guilt so YOU can PROVE it's not true in order to get out of jail. So, in actuality you must prove your innocence before you can be released. .. I want to add a couple of things I use to work on some years back.. to entertain one's thoughts. #1 is your Miranda Rights. I have asked many people including police officers if they "know" what their Miranda Rights mean. I had an officer of 12 years who was in trouble call me, I asked him the question during our conversation. Funny, but neither him nor any could answer, all they could do is recite them. they mean: You have the right to remain silent BECAUSE everything you say WILL be cut up and used against you in a court of law! Anything you SAY that they can use against you they will, anything you say that can be used as a defense is for your attorney to defend. And there were examples I used. If you had a court hearing on Monday at 8am but got into an accident on the way and was rushed to the hospital, then explained later to people of substance, "I was unable to make it because ..." the petitioning party will only tell the Judge "You said you were UNABLE to make it".. the rest is your defense. So the Judge is deceived. It would also be your job to notify the Judge they intentionally deceived the judge and then prove that. #2 NEVER EVER PLEAD "NO CONTEST". No Contest not a plead that can be appealed without EXTREME circumstances and you have 30 days to prove and 'request' an appeal, so.. a No contest plead is explained that you may NOT ever for any reason except proven extreme circumstances reversible and it IS used as a guilty plea. "Nolo Contendere" which translates as: you do not with to contend or argue against the complaint. In actuality you are stating to the court that you are incompetent (as a 2 year old child) to take a plea on your own, and therefore you are allowing the court to do so for you; which because of your own incompetence you will never appeal, because.. well.. you are incompetent. (that's not exactly what it means, but it is about the equivalence).

Where I live its innocent until proven guilty, but the American system is different (and so so unfair)

@@sandraamigliore7285 first, why did you write a whole dissertation about this, second guilty until proven innocent is a bad mindset, every person is innocent until they're found out to have done something guilty, having it the other way around is unfair, and has also caused cancel culture, where falsely accused people get called clowns on social media and assumed to be guilty of whatever they're being blamed for, until the truth comes out that they're innocent.

Prisoner* skoots over

Leo Is Here haha

Prisoner: JESUS CHRIST MAN! GUARD GET ME OUTTA HERE, THIS GUY IS CRAZY!

it was a RADIOACTIVE couch!

Pyre Squire your a cute bird

Roman Fedayi America*

I agree. It's more or less the powerful making rules and their own versions of justice.

Well in many european country's justice works

Not in "world" but America

that's why we stick to guns to make our own justice

Life*

@FlipShot i know it is

@FlipShot but it would be better with life instead of career

THeEMERALD nah life would be worse

whole mans innocence

You mean the "nether"

Ikr

Exactly what a Karen could do

CT Exodius yeah

Yes thats a karen she should get in prison for the same amount of years

You think

She only said it because she thought she would get money

Yeah legit it all comes down to money for them.

That’s lowkey the reason

Sue whom? People? Government? Government doesn't care about money, money is not worth anything when you talk about countries.

Billions isn't enough Nothing is enough They took away his whole life from him,nothing can fix that,even if he takes all the money in the entire world,it's still not enough Life can't be bought again

@@mrcricket8464 I would want revenge about those wittnes. I would give them the slowest and painful deaht for that

Sparrows 4Ever was not even near the crime scene

@@margaretthatcher8246 exactly

sadly.. it happens every single day to someone. This is very very common. There are a lot of innocent people thrown in jail.

imagine being the guy that was killed

Dimichi He probably didn’t have his entire life with a recently married pregnant wife thrown out of the window because of some lying eyewitnesses at 22 years of age

mine too

Terrorism* And people wonder why people with a conscious laugh and smile when they hear that these terrorists and their "judge" counterparts get killed for what they are.

I agree with you

That’s the United States Government for you

The system is rife with corruption.

If you go to a group of scientists and say “THERE WERE ALIENS IN MY BACKYARD! I SAW THEM!” Saying you saw something absolutely does not make it true, and it’s so ridiculous that the court cares about witness testimonies.

I really dont remember who had said this, and I'm mostly paraphrasing, but they said, "Eye witness accounts are the weakest form of evidence in science, but the strongest in the court of law..."

@@arinyates6886 I think it was Carl Sagan or Neil Tyson

Human society operates based on different principles than nature. In the real world it would be almost impossible to convict members of mafia/criminal organizations of something without witnesses/snitches. "Scientific" approach would actually totally ruin the justice system. Also, forensic science is proven to be very unreliable.

@@GSungaila ...how is forensic science un reliable

Right?

Lift legally he was proven guilty. And retrials have to work the other way around or people could just keep doing retrials with the same info hoping for a different result

In our system, if someone says you did something, that apparently means you’re proven guilty.

Yea.. one the 31 basic human right... 😓

@Tayler Robinson But the evidence which prove him guilty now has been proved to be wrong. That doesn't means he has never been proved guilty?

Count me in.

i is watermelon ☝️☝️☝️☝️

I'm in

I'm in bro

I’ll be the guy in the chair

And thats how mafia works

Lol just sir made something serious funny. I thank uou

No its Lawyer: We've found concrete evidence that Spencer is not bad, will he get out now? Judge: yeah, nah

there is no evidence he isn’t guilt

that justice system for you

Rodgerzzz not in the uk

*women can

RandomGuyOn RU-vid yea that’s what I said

My childhood relationship with my sister in a nutshell

True

They rather claim "guilty until proven innocent" smh !

That doesn't exist anymore, especially in today climate. It's guilty until guilty most of the time, there is no more innocent even if your proven innocent.

The problem is he was convicted, witch means to get a retrial you have to prove your innocence.

Well once your convicted it does turn around, guilt until proven innocent.

In most cases it is still innocent until proven guilty, however the court believes he was already proven guilty.