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Why Pros BASS Sound SO GOOD? Here is the secret.. 

Alice Yalcin Efe - Mercurial Tones Academy
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Today we are taking a look at 3 of the best low end and basses of 2024 and demystify what makes thems o good.
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@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
🌟Hey, if you're struggling with low-end, I might have something that could help! Atlas - Low End Tools: www.mercurialtones.com/atlas-low-end-tools
@nemesishacking
@nemesishacking Месяц назад
You are such a good producer and have so much music knowledge.
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Aww thank you! ❤🙏
@Redemption808
@Redemption808 18 дней назад
@@Alice-Efe Hey Alice, I bought Atlas and the sound quality is absolutely stunning! Next time I'd be willing to pay a lot more money if you do something like this but with presets for Pigments, Serum or whatever synth is used by many of us because for me the main challenge is to understand how you build those layers. Love your work :)
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe 18 дней назад
@@Redemption808 Thank you! I will probably do something like that in the close future. Main problem with this one was I used a lot of external gear (not that it matter so much but I was thinking it could be nice for the people qho bought it). So it wasnt possible to include project files. But next time, I will probably just use pigments to make them all with Ableton FX so you have also project files.
@Redemption808
@Redemption808 18 дней назад
@@Alice-Efe love to read this, much appreciated 🙂
@ViktorNova
@ViktorNova Месяц назад
For anyone trying to do this in Vital, it's a little different - you have to leave phase randomization at zero and assign the RAND key modulator to the phase of both OSCs, at 100%. (not Rand1 or Rand2, it's the RAND in the lower right corner). Everything else is the same, except there's no shortcut to remove the fundamental so you have to do it by hand (2nd partial from the far left on the top row of the wavetable editor, drag it to zero) Apparently Vital doesn't synchronize phase randomization between OSCs like Serum does, so you get inconsistent phase coherence on each note (aka phasey/weak/inconsistent bass) unless you do it this way - but this method produces the exact same results. This video was a total game changer for me, thank you so much Alice!🤩
@EPHEM11
@EPHEM11 Месяц назад
hi thanks so much for this, i don't have serum. just to confirm, do you set phase to 0 and then assign phase of both oscillators to RAND at 100% modulation? or do you leave it at 180 phase and then make the modulation bipolar? or does it not matter... my guess is it doesn't matter, as the reason you're doing this is just to make sure both oscillators are at the same phase at all times so we don't get phase cancellation whilst maintaining the panned bass? thank you:))
@Rzn8958
@Rzn8958 Месяц назад
So to remove the fundamental you're removing the tallest column in the wavetable editor and just leaving the harmonics?
@ViktorNova
@ViktorNova 26 дней назад
@@EPHEM11To get this effect, just leave one oscillator's phase at 0 and then tweak the other oscillator's phase until you find a sweet spot where the 2 oscillators sum together in a way you are happy with for the song. As long as RAND is modulating the phase of both oscillators by the same amount, the phase coherency will stay the same from note to note and you'll get a consistent sound. If you leave them both at zero, they will always be the same and won't make a stereo sound, so it's necessary to change the phase of one of the oscillators
@ViktorNova
@ViktorNova 26 дней назад
@@Rzn8958 The fundamental isn't necessarily always going to be the tallest column in the wavetable editor, but it will always be the 2nd column from the far-left, in the upper harmonic editor (the column on the far left is volume - I'm not sure why they designed it this way) - just remove that/turn it down to zero and you'll be left with all the harmonics but no fundamental. Personally I like to use a 2nd instance of Vital to have a sine wave sub on a dedicated track
@EPHEM11
@EPHEM11 26 дней назад
thank you, that's sort of what i ended up doing :))
@mxrdexe
@mxrdexe Месяц назад
Bass is reason i give up every day
@joshtrent7945
@joshtrent7945 Месяц назад
Honestly. You think this will be the easiest part of the project going in 😅
@ast4127
@ast4127 Месяц назад
Go for feeling, leave mixing for later. Dont get stuck on anything too long. Leave the track alone for a while or do sound design, search for samples, keep moving.
@novaray3405
@novaray3405 Месяц назад
Oh damn I feel you 😢
@antoniobertolini9358
@antoniobertolini9358 Месяц назад
Kick too
@adilmalik4648
@adilmalik4648 Месяц назад
😂
@wreignone
@wreignone Месяц назад
Its so good to see you are still doing these tutorials. I cannot think of anyone else who has such great pro tips 😊
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Thank you! I just like making them 😊
@WorksopGimp
@WorksopGimp Месяц назад
She is very educated producer and teacher, this sort of stuff is golddust for young producers just starting out
@NSW-ye3xw
@NSW-ye3xw 26 дней назад
@@WorksopGimp he
@stenlyspa1325
@stenlyspa1325 Месяц назад
Another great vid! And thanks for all of your sharings - all of them are helping a lot!! You're doing so great - let the flow be with you!!!
@bugrabaran2808
@bugrabaran2808 Месяц назад
Hey Alice, I first learned how to complete the bass sound design by removing the fundamental from your previous video, but even then unison didn't always give the sound I wanted. This is a game changer :) Nice tips
@ambientuniverse5344
@ambientuniverse5344 Месяц назад
Nice inspiration to improve my trance-producing skills. I like the way you do your youtube-channel. Rock on! 😎
@russellholloway7465
@russellholloway7465 Месяц назад
Thanks again great channel always helpful ❤
@Planetugm
@Planetugm Месяц назад
Amazing stuff and very well explained! Love your channel! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@NGUETO
@NGUETO Месяц назад
wow I used to see your videos a long time ago, you've changed so much omg!!! I'm so happy for you, keep it up queen ❤❤
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Welcome back and thank you! 😊 things are bit changed here ✌️
@cerebralkaos2385
@cerebralkaos2385 Месяц назад
Thanks Alice, you do the best tutorials! Keep up the great work.
@russellnashsynth
@russellnashsynth Месяц назад
Thanks a lot for the tips. Also, this video helped me come up with a cool idea for a bassline, thanks!
@roseculotte4408
@roseculotte4408 26 дней назад
Soooo helpful thank you ! 🔥
@charvel111
@charvel111 Месяц назад
I appreciate this, thank you!! Liked and subscribed!
@julianmaccor5019
@julianmaccor5019 Месяц назад
This is the best way to teach! Great explanation, good examples and how to remake them. Keep it onnnn
@adasevic2
@adasevic2 Месяц назад
Awesome video as always! Keep up the great work, you are a blessing to this community!
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Thank you! I will do my best to keep posting. 😊
@mindspace696
@mindspace696 24 дня назад
​@@Alice-Efe​please don't stop. I just discovered your channel and was very impressed with this video. You packed a huge amount of very useful information into a short space of time, and I'm looking forward to learning lots more stuff from you. I have been somewhat stuck in a rock format for many years, but I'm finally allowing myself to go back to using electronic sounds as I did in the 1990s. I have a lot to catch up on, so if the rest of your videos are of this calibre I'm going to be looking at them for some time to come. One thing that confused me with this one, though, was the rolling bassline in the first example. The MIDI data showed alternating eighth-note octaves, but the rhythm of the sound didn't seem to match that. Was that the result of a dotted delay or something along those lines?
@marcwilko6550
@marcwilko6550 21 день назад
Good tutorial very detailed and well explained...nice one!
@wavecamtu
@wavecamtu Месяц назад
I appreciate this tip! Thank You so much!
@iwalkeverdeyazul5265
@iwalkeverdeyazul5265 Месяц назад
Gracias Alice! Excelente data! Saludos desde Argentina
@zerotoninemusic5957
@zerotoninemusic5957 Месяц назад
Simply perfect technique, works amazing! Thank you so much Alice!
@re_linked
@re_linked Месяц назад
This is a big one! Will def rewatch this, so many helpful gems, thank you!
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Second time is the charm 😊
@SnazzyBoxx
@SnazzyBoxx Месяц назад
Damn I needed this 😩 thanks 🙏🔥
@DjVonDiego
@DjVonDiego Месяц назад
OMG FINALLY SOMEONE NAILED IT!!! I AM SO THANKFUL... YOU NAILED IT HERE! THANKS FOR SPREADING THE KNOWLEDGE
@P-78official
@P-78official Месяц назад
Thx for this!
@alexandermirth3231
@alexandermirth3231 Месяц назад
Great freaking video! Thank you so much. This solved the phasing issue I was having during mastering 🎉
@panagope
@panagope Месяц назад
Thanks a lot for the production pro tips !!
@OrdinaryOneOfficial
@OrdinaryOneOfficial Месяц назад
Amazing tips. Thank you! ❤❤
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Glad it was helpful!
@agosto.mp3
@agosto.mp3 Месяц назад
Awesome video, thanks once again 🙌
@SonicConstruction
@SonicConstruction Месяц назад
love your enthusiasm :) great bass tips
@kidnun804
@kidnun804 Месяц назад
Sick one! Thanks fam
@HumanMotives
@HumanMotives Месяц назад
Great video, learned some more how to improve 🙏
@evollie9035
@evollie9035 Месяц назад
I love how you explain why a change is made, instead of just doing it without any context. Your tutorials are always great and I always learn. Thank you ❤
@dynamikmsc
@dynamikmsc Месяц назад
Your Videos are such a blessing ❤
@ernestoblancof.7583
@ernestoblancof.7583 Месяц назад
Huge thanks, this is amazing
@ko_3x335
@ko_3x335 Месяц назад
Hi Alice, i'm following your Channel long time. You've always very interesting and helpful content. You are getting more pro every time. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Love your channel ❤
@Griuofficial
@Griuofficial Месяц назад
Thanks a lot for the video
@victorarrudadj
@victorarrudadj Месяц назад
Amazing content!
@CookieMCMLXXXI
@CookieMCMLXXXI Месяц назад
Great tips! ❤
@unknownchannel6797
@unknownchannel6797 Месяц назад
Amazing, been wondering how to do this for many years, thank you
@MrRightR3MiX3z
@MrRightR3MiX3z Месяц назад
Thanks for the tip on how to make a solid, clean bassline with punch and not mush. simple and a way easier technique than i've heard from others.
@ikoukou
@ikoukou Месяц назад
Great tutorial!
@GuyXVIII
@GuyXVIII Месяц назад
As always, killer content. The precision sculpting of the synths is just amazing. I really loved when you called Ring Modulaion "trial and error" cause it's very relatable :D By the way, would be very interesting to see a video on RM in particular.
@GoranBackmanMusic
@GoranBackmanMusic 24 дня назад
I even had forgotten you can edit the waveforms in Serum haha.. nice video.
@croco.nation
@croco.nation Месяц назад
This video is gold! Also, your video editing is great. The hard work you put into it shows.
@Gujbffuugghhv12
@Gujbffuugghhv12 Месяц назад
Very very cool thanks allot!!!
@sharma3737
@sharma3737 Месяц назад
Outstanding tip Just wanna know if there is a way of performing the first one in pigments as there is no pan knob on the oscillators Thanks a ton for your videos
@BunnyBunniee
@BunnyBunniee Месяц назад
you just saved me so much freakin time! i was literally trying to figure out how to not make my bass so scattered. You always coming through when i need it
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
haha happy to help!
@joshuajones7573
@joshuajones7573 Месяц назад
Another excellent video. Absolutely one of the best synth bass theorists on all of you tube, Alice. I salute you.
@JuanManuel12345
@JuanManuel12345 Месяц назад
Hi Alice! Im confused on the chain for the MRAK pro bass, is it set to mono? I'm not getting the same mono result on the imager! Thanks!
@HOLY_BATH
@HOLY_BATH Месяц назад
that was sick ty
@AlexWBKK
@AlexWBKK Месяц назад
Really cool, learned a lot. ^^ Thank you. There are a few songs, that i also find really interesting in how they got produced. Its beyond other sounds and it really makes we wonder how they could achieve that. One is Aurora (DJ IBON Remix) and the other is Mikkel Rev - Amneo. The second one is actually more interesting, because basically all of the instruments are so subtle but still give out everything that is required to make it a "sound" ^^. I find it unbelievable how everything adds up together. For me this is art. And the first one i find so interesting because it has crazy reverb effects. It sounds like there is an insane reverb over every single instrument, still the song never sounds too messy. And for whatever reason all those reverb effects dont come into each others way. Bass has reverb, kicks have reverb, hihats have reverb, BG noise has reverb. And everytime big amounts too. Its a mistery how those songs got produced. Maybe someone else picks up on my curiousity and talks about how those songs are made. Maybe just a few of the instruments. THat would be really cool ^^ PS: both songs shoud be listened to with headphones, theres an endless amount of subtle stuff in.
@50hz_artist
@50hz_artist Месяц назад
Thank You! Will try it right now!
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Good luck!
@maxs489
@maxs489 Месяц назад
Great, as usual, thanks! Dumb question about the first one - we start off splitting out the bass to stereo, then spend a bunch of later steps trying to bring it back more mono. Why not just leave it more mono in the first place?
@papuyonic
@papuyonic Месяц назад
awesome video!
@theomichaud3843
@theomichaud3843 Месяц назад
Huge one ! Merci !
@abreuskie
@abreuskie Месяц назад
Great tips and video, thank you! Where can I find that serum skin?!
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
It is on Mercurial Tones 😊
@abreuskie
@abreuskie Месяц назад
@@Alice-Efe thank you!!!
@forgeduson
@forgeduson Месяц назад
Thank you for this very instructive video Alice, as always ! I have a question for you : Do you think it would be possible to reproduce this technique with an Ableton stock synthesizer like Wavetable or Meld for example ? I have been following your channel for a very long time now and your content is always top notch quality, please keep it up
@itsmistera
@itsmistera 29 дней назад
I often overlook the science of harmonics involved in music, great this information would give me many solutions
@r_fl3xsounds530
@r_fl3xsounds530 Месяц назад
alice i doing it for 26 years and creating basslines nobody knows how
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Haha aren't we all just bunch of people turning knobs and hoping for the best 😊✌
@machinemademan
@machinemademan Месяц назад
are eq8 linear phase capable? ive been doing a little poking around about cutting bass without using linear phase EQs and even changed my project template to all pro q3 doing the cuts on the groups and i can tell a dif in the end phase results
@alvesdeejay
@alvesdeejay Месяц назад
Great video thank you Alice
@schuss303
@schuss303 Месяц назад
I am watching videos for an long time, almost 20 years..and i am telling you, your tips are amazing❤
@jean-baptiste9230
@jean-baptiste9230 Месяц назад
This great thanks…i don’t really wrap my mind around fundamentals yet but i get that you remove harmonic therefore creating more of unified pitch, meaning the same root note on different octave, is this right?
@constantlydisagree5376
@constantlydisagree5376 Месяц назад
Thank you!)
@KucharczykKamil
@KucharczykKamil Месяц назад
As always TOP!
@gonzo7440
@gonzo7440 Месяц назад
will try this one is cool. Thx! 😱
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Good luck! ✨
@EntropyExhaustion
@EntropyExhaustion Месяц назад
One more idea: The phase shift is basically a tiny delay between left and right. You can get something similar if you add a band splitter after the synth and add a Haas fx in the upper band(s) only
@jimbotski
@jimbotski Месяц назад
Glad I found this channel, well done. sub!
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Glad you did! Welcome aboard! 😊
@zyodmusic
@zyodmusic Месяц назад
Great tip with the stereo bassline! Is there a reason why you leave the phase randomization on both osc on? :)
@Emare100489
@Emare100489 29 дней назад
This video made me sub!
@viktorijachileviciute5599
@viktorijachileviciute5599 Месяц назад
Thank youuuu!!!
@AngeloBacaloni
@AngeloBacaloni Месяц назад
Love your passion, it's contagious. I don't produce but now I need to remix something to do that fu**ing Amazing bassline. What do you use? I'm beginner on producing but would like to use only workstation made for Linux. For ethic decision. Can you suggest something?
@konaraweb
@konaraweb Месяц назад
So good ❤ . Much love from SriLanka
@RdLu
@RdLu Месяц назад
Gorgeous ❤ (And those bass lines too) 😅
@eduardorosseti5832
@eduardorosseti5832 Месяц назад
Thank's 😊
@SunburstPrince
@SunburstPrince 22 дня назад
LOVE YOU , YOU helped me alot and you Don’t know it❤
@kaliph810
@kaliph810 29 дней назад
@Elice-Efe Thanks for the great video. Could you maybe show, how to achieve this with Massive X?
@Gino_567
@Gino_567 Месяц назад
Great tips... but just some advice, refrain from saying things like "i'm the first" to do something in the future. 😅 I've watched a LOT of masterclasses and tutorials over the years by those pros themselves, and none of them create bass lines like this (that I've seen) They're all very simple, but just very well executed. Generally if it's overly complicated, it's probably not the way to do it. But there's always room for new ways! And will be trying some of these methods out for sure!
@christiantascione942
@christiantascione942 Месяц назад
Been trying to recreate the clean stereo Speranza sound since I first heard the track. Thank you for this!
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Glad I could help! 😊
@byronsonic6538
@byronsonic6538 Месяц назад
I really like your videos and appreciate your hard work, the contents of your videos are great! One thing which i don't understand is that the videos always consist of so many fast and hectic cuts / text changing and a lot of effects. It feels like it is in timewarp. This makes me hard to concentrate on the content.
@nicolasalexander408
@nicolasalexander408 Месяц назад
Just found your channel, subbed baby! ❤🥰
@heartofawesomeness7087
@heartofawesomeness7087 20 дней назад
not a mastering engineer and prolly not qualified to explain this to ppl, but I thought I'd try and clarify. The difference between the unison and panning trick mostly boils down to the unison using different pitches on the left and right to crate wideness, and the pan trick using different phase. The unison also has more movement, but that's the gist of it. That still means that there's going to be phasing with the pan trick when it's in mono though (which there will be in any type of wideness ever, because that's literally what makes it wide) and it's still dangerous to use too much if you want it to be djable. The reason that you might want to use this trick instead of unison is that it's much less chaotic because there's no any movement or detune. Anyway, great video, Alice! You've helped me learn so much music stuff, and know that your videos are amazing resources for aspiring producers!!!!
@mageprometheus
@mageprometheus Месяц назад
Your 'how to' videos always leave me with a smile. So good.
@hankr9025
@hankr9025 Месяц назад
very interesting :) im gonna try this
@jeffreygarceau-plamondon2200
@jeffreygarceau-plamondon2200 Месяц назад
Do we have the same result if we take the ozone imager and force it to be more in the center while keeping a little width?
@Redemption808
@Redemption808 18 дней назад
I don't know how to apply this with Pigments or my Prophet Rev2. Do they all support those functions with phase adaption and removing the fundamental? Can someone please explain for one of those two synths? Would be much appreciated :)
@EntropyExhaustion
@EntropyExhaustion Месяц назад
Awesome as all your content. But I have seen the remove fundamental tipp elsewhere. It can be used to keep focus on heavy unisono patches ... interestingly enough even Surge XT (free synth) has a WT of a saw with removed fundamental on board ... anyway, I enjoy your content. Sometimes these advertisement phrases "secret pro tipp" or "only here" that are used all over the internet make me go mehhh. Btw: I started to use the combo of ISOL8 (five band splitter) and PsyScope (free, beat synced oscilloscope), which I plug in to the bass band of ISOL8 to visually control kick and subbass level... it's free an thus can replace SubNinja...
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Can it be this one: studio.ru-vid.comXsMn5Jo0wJY 😊 The unique thing in the video was not about removing fundementals but manual phase shifting 2 oscillators and panning them again manually and not using unison. I think that didnt come through well in the video, I should probably have made it more clear.
@EntropyExhaustion
@EntropyExhaustion Месяц назад
​@@Alice-Efeprobably you're right. If it's for the phase shift then I might have missed the warning that you might end up canceling out when monoing if the delta is 180 degree in total. Anyways - I'm just adding "random" things that come to my mind ... your content is great!
@idirtyrecords
@idirtyrecords Месяц назад
very cool the pro part from the first base, i learend some new stuff, with the phase to bring one the sides, but isnt it better for the contro, to make the random level of the phase to zero?
@desley075
@desley075 Месяц назад
you are amazing !!
@ramosoztas3569
@ramosoztas3569 Месяц назад
I love your content so much Alice, you're a star
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Aww thank you!
@hirudo881
@hirudo881 Месяц назад
You look absolutely stunning in that thumbnail! If i wouldnt know... Also, great video yet again!
@macronencer
@macronencer Месяц назад
That MRAK trick is great! I already knew about it... I believe Dash Glitch might have discussed it, which is probably where I got the idea. It really does help to separate out the fundamental in these situations.
@sulimanhassan9556
@sulimanhassan9556 Месяц назад
since you remove the fundamental from the wavetable, why not adding more unison voices into a one OSC with constant phase closed Randomization. and that would do super great. specially if you add some hyper and some multiband compressor from the Serum FX. but I get the Idea of showing off here on RU-vid, everyone keeps saying magic and super-secret tricks. while actually there's no such thing
@howardhutchinson1631
@howardhutchinson1631 Месяц назад
Nice vid! For sure, being "old school", i don't care refining at this level, since i get the right vibe of a track. I'm reading tips for Bass & Drums for 30 years or so, but most impressing was a guy who only pushed mono tracks on a 16 channel Mackie and some cheap FX. He just added room on a Microverb, did a "chorus" by copying samples in a Ensoniq sampler and distorted by simply pushing the gains. At the end he had all the controls at his fingertips and rocked the store so badly, i changed my style forever. I was 21 back then, now i'm 52. So, what's up RU-vid?😎
@SpacerLive
@SpacerLive Месяц назад
let me say something you need to know: Your bass has a better image for mixing than Marks. That's it. You nailed it. That's why it is fundamental to study the basics of synth sound design! Perfect trick.
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Wow, thanks!
@Pawel-rv1ek
@Pawel-rv1ek 25 дней назад
I can't seem to find that "Harsh" wavetable, where is that? It's my fav bassline/track in recent years!
@Maracuda
@Maracuda Месяц назад
awesome tutorial ! but i was wondering why did you not also turn down the random phase ?
@Fani777
@Fani777 Месяц назад
good question
@jornl9177
@jornl9177 Месяц назад
Same question here 👀
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Random makes the sound more dynamic. Given that we want the "top" layer to be autentic and stereo. As we removed the fundemental from top layer and sub is already mono, there is really no need to make the top layer more static and robotic by taking away random.
@jornl9177
@jornl9177 Месяц назад
​@@Alice-Efemakes sence - the random phase here is only for both upper layers and doesnt effect the fundamental - true!
@Maracuda
@Maracuda Месяц назад
ah i see thank you so much ! @@Alice-Efe
@qtrax100
@qtrax100 27 дней назад
Been making music for 30 years, ran a pro studio for 10 of those and never seen this before. Best music production tips on YT .
@CemeterySoulsMusic
@CemeterySoulsMusic 24 дня назад
This is THE BEST video I have ever seen. You are my new BEST FRIEND! ❤❤❤❤
@fp1183
@fp1183 Месяц назад
Alice :) !! are the basses of number2 ( Disco) in the Atlas pack ? thanks
@Alice-Efe
@Alice-Efe Месяц назад
Yes! 😊
@fp1183
@fp1183 Месяц назад
i saw, number 9 , very nice !!@@Alice-Efe
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