Why Rings of Power Failed where House of the Dragon Worked | One v One 

Same here also his death had a big impact on the story

Great episode (s1e8). The servant girl who Aegon raped (Danya?) and uncle Vaemond Velaryon gave better performances in that one episode than anyone on a whole season of Rings of Power.

@@tjslam26 God Twitchy face Galadriel haunts me in my dreams man.

​@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 It is only natural to feel conflicted

@@tjslam26 The background peasant standing there had better acting than any character in the whole season of rings of power

she got more brothers

@@FULANODETAL I'm sure she loves them all very very deeply just as much as Finrod according to Amazon, the most faithful writers ever

Dont forget when she told Adar about her one true desire of seeing the entire Orc race get genocided in a way that makes Adar look like the good guy

Because the show is written by amateurs whose have basically no show in their career

@@bkg5494 i believe the word is ”tragic”

HotD doesnt do that at all though. It's GoT Season 8 levels of storytelling that people are lapping up because it isn't Rings of Power.

@@RTDice11 XDDDDD

@@RTDice11 care to explain how exactly?

@@bkg5494 being loose is TIGHT.

@@RTDice11 No, not it's not. The only scenes that ever came close to GoT season 8 were Daemon's suicide charge on the beach and the Rhaenys scene in the last episode. You're tripping if you think the entire show is anywhere close to the atrocity that was season 8 of GoT.

"do not mourn me, mother. it was a fair exchange. I may have lost an eye, but I gain a dragon" - Aemond Targaryen

@@DarthMalgusSith_Lord Aemond less than ten years later: "GIMME THAT EYE BOI I WANT ONE OF THEM EYES!"

@@tatersalad76 *accidentally kills him*

@@ExponentMars *Assassins kill his brother's child*

@@tatersalad76 It wasn't for him. He wanted Luke's eye to give it to his mother.

That's the sole reason why GoT got it's traction in the first place. Conflicting personal desires, personal hunger for power and willingness to do anything and everything to achieve that, and fantasy setting as cherry on top. Shame they messed it all up in last seasons but the core element was always solid

Both worlds of GoT and LotR are awesome, personally consider the worldbuilding of LotR better but storywise, I felt like GoT was more interesting

It was centered on real historical events ( war of the roses)

@@marionarda2790 that's one of the inspirations, not what the whole thing is centered around

@@kiboma4209had rings been true to the source material, it probably wouldn’t have failed.

I mean, how can you "show" that there's a tempest in you if you don't tell anyone?

@@tjslam26 it’s the difference between acing a math test and constantly saying you’re very smart

@@tjslam26 never heard of the saying "show, don't tell"?

@@reinhartnata47 I've heard someone tell that to a Rings of Power writer but they had their headphones on and ignored them.

Issue is in RoP when they tried to show something it then didnt make sense, people did nonsensical things, they got both aspects wrong, its a classic example of people who dont know or understand the material they are drawing from and want to do their vision of it. issues arise when it breaks the fundamental rules of that world. they would have been better off doing something new instead of a bastardization of a beloved and well known franchise.

For real, i was like "Damn they delivering haymakers to each other"

It's funny I read the book, and know of the story through the history and lore of westeros but that entre fight I was like "GET HIS ASS LUCERYS GET HIS ASS!" lol

@@TheRibottoStudios i've never been so tense looking children fight until i saw that

Oof

And an Old man walking up the stairs was 10x more impactfull than their Finale.

My husband & I went from still being salty over GoT and having no interest in watching this, to dressing as Viserys and Alicent for Halloween. Even people who had not yet seen the show knew who we were supposed to be and had chosen side (“Sorry, I’m Team Black”). I have not heard _anyone_ talk about Rings.

@@kimberlyoldschool it's a lesson to the world. The fans can be won back to the thing they used to love if the new content is well done. (Team green 💚)

This and Andor to me.

@@kimberlyoldschool I was the same way. Funny, what a difference a good season of television makes!

I am surprised so many people enjoy House of the Dragon. Hell, even surprised to see a video with “House of the Dragon worked” in its title. I couldn’t really get into it, and neither did anyone else I know who binged GoT. Once I finally started to getting a feel for it, we moved forward in time and many actors changed, while also many actors didn’t change. It broke all immersion and I just couldn’t get myself to care for anyone. I still haven’t watched the final episode. I just can’t be bothered.

Extremely superb scene with Viserys, even though the decision to put so many swords there, is kinda bad. Couldn't stop thinking that he could just drop and die on a sword right there made me cackle a bit. On the other hand, that added to the tension.

I would say House of the Dragon is far superior

I read that the crown fell off Paddy's (King Viserys) head by accident and Matt (Daemon) played along and picked it up and it ended up adding so much more emotion to the scene that the director kept it in. I think it was a good idea, it added so much emotion to the scene.

@@crayolaclouds2696 That's a good one. It does for sure. Maybe this is the "reason" they removed them they removed them later on? You know in Game of thrones ERA ahahaha

Same issue in modern StarCrap..I mean Starwars

nice copy and paste comment. where were you when "commando" was released? ahh, I see... it's only a problem when the lead is female.

guys, why do you even put up the act? If I'd place 100 bucks on your views on global warming, covid and racism I would not go home a broke man. so why all the theatrics a la "I have black friends too", "ripley" and "I'm not a misogynist, I just talk like one" as one of you far right incel victims put "predator" (which I assume to be "prey") into play I basically don't even have to counter anymore cause you beat yourselves. prey is an awesome movie. that's not coming from me but from metacritic(for example) where it currently holds a score of 71(!) this shows you manage to gather successfully on your basically only stage: YT comment sections but that's it, you're a minority whose opinions and complains are straight up ignored (or destroyed ♥Zack Snyder♥) by the content creators end executives. I mean look at how many videos your poster child crew ala geeks and gamers, nerdrotic, the quartering or whatever their names uploaded here about: "kathleen kennedy being replaced" - she's basically replaced on a daily base. reality moves on - without you.

@@CinceTheDay why do you think people who don't like rings of power are racists, misogynists,And don't believe in global warming? Does it have anything to do with the ring of power assessment?

​@@kueapel911 congrats, another hand played flawlessly by you (against yourself unfortunatly) now everybody knows what it means when you're "sure" of something. checking out that I'm not a bot would've taken like 10 seconds -instead you did put down 112 words of exactly the BS you guys just can't resist. just keep going, stage is yours.

Have Cate Blanchett come onto the show and fight against Morfydd Clarke Galadriel and reveal her to be an impostor.

So, like Luke Skywalker tricking his nephew on Last Jedi?

@@margarethmichelina5146 lol no, that's NOT the same thing at all. Luke wasn't revealed to be some evil big bad at all, he was just projecting his image somewhere.

To be fair, so long as they maintain writing quality and don't needlessly change too much of the story beyond recognition, this should actually end well because it's based on a complete story, unlike Game of Thrones. The writers aren't working with a handful of broadstrokes notes for 3-4 seasons

@@Tyler_W One problem with that myth is that they only "ran out" of book content in season 6-7 (timeline dependent). And the reason for this was actually cutting out huge swaths of content and rushing stories and relying on fanservice and fanfiction.

@@Tyler_W it's well known D&D got tired of Game of Thrones and wanted to do other stuff (their little star wars movie) but they didn't want anyone else walking away with the honour of finishing the series so they finished it themselves in a big rush. Ironic enough they didn't have any job in Hollywood since.

@@michiel1162 Yup! That's correct! They killed their golden goose and now have nothing.

@gg ddfccc i don't feel like we're both watching the same show

Bad assessment. The Silmarillion is basically what you said rings of power is. It’s not game of thrones, and it’s not as people focused. The problem with rings of power is it has bad writing. If it were faithful it it’s source material it would’ve awesome but still not as character-driven as hotd. It’s a different style of story.

Hotd which person foucus?

@@yourdreams2440 Silmarillion is about the first age, rop is about the second age.

@@Panteni87 The plot of RoP is laid out in the silmarillion like the fall of Numenor

no, rings of power is esg-positive agendas with "folks" that check the boxes not even in the background, cause they are so "powerful"

😤🤤 imagine how they smell

Bruh

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That would save the entire thing

My guy kills, for some feet, he down bad fr

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Honestly, while I’m someone who prefers holding to the lore as well, I would’ve been content with these famous characters being *consistent* with how they’ve already been established. We know they’re both over one thousands of years old, so it seems very unlikely they (particularly Galadriel) would act SO stupid, hasty and belligerent. Their personalities would have long since established, and it just seems super unlikely that a stupid, hasty, belligerent elf would chill to become glowy-glowy mirror queen after another thousand years. I mean, maybe elven personalities develop and change waaaaaaaay slower than humans, heck if I know. This show just has a lot of problems.

@@mariecarie1 Absolutely agree. They could have created some lesser Noldor princess to fit the role, instead of trying to update Galadriel to the current strong-female-lead standard -which in this show actually translates to what you said: stupid, hasty and belligerent.

@@Prelooker But most people who watch the show already know Galadriel, so apparently it’s just easier to hijack her character and twist it into what they want than create a new character. I mean, obviously-any other new characters are completely flatline and inconsistent. I know I’m only an armchair critic, but the writing is just atrocious.

@@mariecarie1 Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. And we're all armchair critics in the end. TV shows are not meant for writers only, but for all of us. Shame on them their writing is so poor even us can spot it.

That's the problem of Hollywood these days, they choose quantity (money) over quality!

RoP wants you to relate Gal, but in a "why isn't anyone listening to her?" kinda way. Gilgalad and all the other elves just don't want to believe despite the fact she did discover something. She (Gal) doesn't help her case, because she can only be snarky and stubborn. Any opposition to her plan get a scornful look from her and attempts to force you to see her way. There is no room for others to have an opinion; you either agree or are an idiot.

Except when Cole killed that guy at the wedding

@@adamchoquette1937 and the issue is RoP doesn't even portray this as a character flaw for Galadriel. She acts in the dumbest, least diplomatic manner but we're supposed to feel like it's all warranted because she's right about Sauron and everyone is just prejudiced against elves. If she was confronted about her behavior, it could be made into a character development arc. Like rebellious teenager turns into strong leader when she learns to be less arrogant. Why not? Though she's supposed to be already hundreds of years old and a commander of armies, while being incapable of any diplomacy or leadership...

I freaking love the female protagonists of HotD. Unlike your generic boring feminist garbage, they've made EVERY character grey and morally ambiguous. You root for people but are reminded of their faults. You loathe people but then you are reminded of their well-doings. Both Alicent and Rhaenyra have positive and negative aspects to their personality. As the video said, they're more human than fantasy, and I freaking love that.

So many movies/shows have been ruined by the obsession with MYSTERY BOXES. If you want the audience to follow the story, you need to reveal the character motivations. You need to show the step by step progress towards their goal. The problem is I didn't know the trench was gonna be used to explode the volcano. So all that time spent building it, I wasn't following anything. I didn't know what it was for, who was building it, and why they're building it. That's a sure way to bore the audience.

Like you said, that has to be an accident. Galadriel is flawless, after all, so we must assume that some rando guy did something or other off-screen to make it appear as if she did something wrong. (Watch that become a real plot point in episode 1 of season 2 after the writers realize what they did to Strong Woman...)

it is actually imply that had she not been a crazy bich and either gone to valinor or at least not jump in the middle of the ocean sauron would had been eaten by a fish and die.

What are you even talking about? Acted on what? Yelling at who? Did you even watch the season finale?

@@ReinierSandtke He means when Guyladriel figured out Halbrand is Sauron, but does NOTHING to alert the other Elves. They are going the whole sexual attraction route between the two...Which is done better by Daytime Soaps and Telenovellas.

@@othertalk3313 They make sauron hypnotizing her to encourage him becoming king of the Southlands.

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Yeah, every time the Harfoots said something like "nobody gets left behind" I was thinking...you guys _regularly_ leave people to die because you're wildly superstitious

It's the "fiction has to reflect the society we live in today" trope that kinda doesn't work for Tolkien's work. I guess if you confronted a RoP about the harfoots, they would say "yes because that exposes the hipocrisy of tradition "

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@@benjaminaltube8731 They're trying the allegory approach which as we all know Tolkien hates and he quite possibly designed his World to be unapproachable in that angle, although doing so could theoretically work it would need knowledge and effort put into it.

I haven't watched the show yet and so idk what the "elves are taking our jobs" speech is about but it sounds hilarious

GRRM's stories are anthropocentric. If you understand people, you understand why GRRM's characters do what they do. The fantasy elements are mostly of interest in how they alter human behavior. HOTD focuses heavily on the Targaryen family tree, whose structure is heavily influenced by fantasy elements. The power to control dragons is the reason for their godlike status and rule, but it is dangerous if it turns against itself (dragon riders have way too much power and this has a destabilizing effect). Incestuous marriages are as much to keep dragon power united as to keep a pure Valyrian bloodline. The first half of the season is devoted to most sane individuals (e.g. Lyonel Strong) trying to reunite Jahaerys' legitimate descendants through marriage (The Velaryons are descended from the first son Aemon, while Rhaenyra is descended from Baelon and Daella), but these efforts lead to general unhappiness (characters are not compatible with these rational requirements) and are thwarted when Viserys makes a hightower branch with a competing claim. In contrast to this careful interplay between human and fantasy elements, we have ROP which is devoid of humanity and has lore that isn't really canon.

Sure, there is a fine line between an overdone and an underdeveloped worldbuilding in fantasy, and the author needs to know where that line is. Show too little, and the characters will seem to float within an empty world, only interacting with characters and objects that are somehow crucial to the plot. There will be no intrigue to hook the audience to find out more about this world. On the other hand, when the plot is crammed with too much information and too much sub-plots, one will get confused and give-up on investing into that world.

The absurdity is that they had all the job done for them. You know, being based on Tolkien's work. The guy who created languages? The guy who has a fucking chronology long several thousands years? Yeah, that guy.

Disagree. They had everything they couldve asked for. They couldn't overwrite because they had enough for new and lore consistent material to not do what you explained here. That's how bad they are. They had months and months and warning after warning and book after book with interview after interview and they STILL lied and fucked it up. My 7 year old genuinely writes better than they do.

this is bad assessment, because you had tolkiens work and Jackson's original trilogy, the only thing you had to do is to NOT INCLUDE TOXIC SOCIAL IDEOLOGIES, and apparently it was still too much for amazon's "powerful" directors

Mindless boring Television with ridiculess senseless Archs. The Drama of the narative feels forced a dont start with the freak who jerks of on the queen.. dont lower your entertainment Standards just to see dragons

got early seasons was peak of what webseries could be

Indeed. It’s gonna be good

I only cover the pilot episodes. I haven't seen more myself either.

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IKR. In all honesty, I hate the sponsorship bits even when they're done by expert comedians so I usually skip them or fast forward if they're in the middle In Filmento's case, I don't think I ever fast forwarded anything given how he fits them Soo naturally with whatever he was talking about

Correct in my opinion they should have knocked her unconscious before what they did.

He thinks he killed her and since then carried the guilt until literally his last breath, and thats what drove his actions and choices beyond that point. I think thats what really matters

@@g.a2066 I don’t doubt Viserys feels responsible for his wife and his son but for Filmento to say he “murdered” his wife is a bit of a stretch.

He feels guilt because he made her bear another child due to his desire for a male heir. It's not because of the c-section.

exactly, she was going to die either way, whether they took the baby out of her or not, at that time a cesarean meant death since the maester didn't know how to stop the hemorrhage, but Viserys' mistake was to impose his choice to his wife especially when it meant enormous suffering and death

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Almost like that’s the entire point🤷🏾. It’s understandable that Tolkien purists are upset with her characterisation, but for general audiences who are not heavily invested in the books, it’s an interesting choice and the beginning of a character arc that may payoff once she learns to set aside her pride and need to be in control.👍🏾

@@nanakwameasiedu-amponsah1405 she’s a Mary Sue lmao all men depicted in the show are evil or incompetent men who know their place as the followers of the main women

@@nanakwameasiedu-amponsah1405 except that's something you set up a human character to do with their development, galadriel is a fucking elf, tolkien made elves to literally be an ethereal sort of being, with some of the best of them still failing to corruption, greed, pride, arrogance hell, even murder sometimss, but the focus was never or ever supposed to be on their failings, but rather how they persevered, resisted, and utterly fought back against the ultimate source and one responsible for sowing, fermenting, and breeding their evils, their failings and the ruination of their sacred blessed home and them as a people The elves and the elven characters Tolkien focused on at the point we see them in the lord of the rings, hell, even by the second age, they had had so many centuries if not thousands of years to work on the failings that landed them all on the shores of Middle earth in the first place, pride and paranoia for lack of control are some of the last things we should be seeing as the main focus of the character in how we the audience views their struggles

Well, I'm not familiar with LOTR books and lore but the way Galadriel's "rebel" in the show is so cringe to me. At least Rhaenyra showed how she rebels like a regular teenager since her younger version was a teenager but the way Galadriel rebels is totally cringe. She acts like knows-it-all, bossy, and think she can do better than any men and she's supposed to be a grown ass woman, how embarrasing. Then, I found that the writers of ROP have no idea about Tolkien in generals while HOTD have George R.R Martin as head writers so, they have more advantages.

Fire hollywood and hire filmento

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and given the size of an ocean and what can live in it , it remains not credible

it is because the amazon series is an insult to Tolkien's works (but also, as a pure show as a neutral Filmento proves, got prequel is waaay better in general)

RoP is not a Tolkien work. That's an insult to everything he created.

Well, If you realize that from Tolkien's that shit show has nothing from him it easy to understand why it is so poorly accepted.

He did Game of Thrones

@@edmontonboy99 yep forgot its been 3 years tho

I'm not sure that's what Tolkien was going for. In TLOTRs, Sauron was really just an obstacle. A force without any real personality outside of 'Thing to defeat'. TLOTRs isn't entirely Black and White, it's more saying that it's up to the individual to decide who they will be and if they can resist temptation. Boromir for example genuinely wanted the Ring to save his kingdom, a noble and good act on the face of it. Yet he also wanted the praise and recognition of being the one to save everyone, stroking his ego and pride; which is ultimately what got him killed as those were traits the Ring manipulated. A good man doing bad things for grey reasons.

yeah lotr is not black and white, the boromir example i think is the best, but there also is saruman, who tried to study the ring and the arts of sauron to better understand his enemy and then thought he could put order to the world better, by being its master, so out of good came evil, and there is also the other way around, the orcs who capture pippin and merry are warriors who are described as loyal and brave, and even when surrounded they fight to the bitter end, traits that other hero characters like aragorn or eomer also posses so althought they are orcs and evil, there are some good elements in them. You can also go way back to the older stories where elves, who traditionally are good, do evil stuff for what they think are good reasons, like maintaining an oath

Sauron just like Morgoth were the personnification of evil . They don't have any redeeming quality. Tolkien didnt create them to be character who became evil . They were from the start...and this guys want to take breaking bad as influence when they barely set the tone for it

​ @Rijus Nar but that is where you are wrong, they were not born evil, they became evil because they tried to do what they wanted and went against god to do it, morgoth became evil because he was desperate nothing was happening and he wanted to create the world, and tried to supplant god to do it, then he tought he knew better how to make the world and was an ass to everyone else who actually tried to make the world, then he loved too much the world and tried to govern it. Sauron was a maiar just like gandalf or melian, of the order of aule, aka a minor god of crafting and stuff, he tought melkor was not evil and tought he (melkor) could put order to things, because what sauron wants is to put order to the world, that is not inheritably evil, but the way they want to do it is the reason they are evil. after melkor was defeated sauron went on his own and tought he could do it better and actually he had more success than melkor at having a big kingdom, still he was a tyrant. Evil in tolkien is not something you are just born with, he wrestled with the orcs a lot for this reason because he didnt know what to do with them because they were born evil. Another good example that has spoilers is the numenoreans, they become divided between the faithful and the unfaithful, they reject the gods and try to got to war with them so god intervines and destroys their island which was gifted by the gods for their ancestors' service during the first age vs melkor, but not all of them die, some become the founders of gondor and arnor and others become pirates and the black numenorians. So they started as good and gifted by the gods with super strenght, height, longer lifespan, but became greedy and cruel and enslaved others and eventually betrayed the gods and were killed themselves. I am not defending the show tho, the writing and pacing is so bad, they focus too much on the lore without actually making the people care for it, while at the same time butchering so old fans are not satisfied. With sauron they can try to make him somewhat likeable, at least his motivation, which they kinda did but that doesnt excuse everything else they did wrong. IMO the sauron twist at the end was the least of the problems the show had, so lets not get too fixated on if sauron is grey or not (which could be argued he kinda is, but a very dark shade of grey). We should be talking more about how a sword of dubious origin was just lying there and has some blood activated magic but actually its just the key to unleash mount doom? or how the numenoreans are kinda bad already and hate the elves but why?, or how they created the 3 rings, which are the most powerfu, with sauron instead of creating the other 16 that were stolen by sauron later? or how the timeline makes no sense, they built the forge in like a week and the numenoreans get to mordor in like 2 days, or how galadriel who wants to destroy sauron decides to go on a sidequest to make a king on a land which she now knows sauron wanted to make a stronghold there because he left the mark everywhere to signal it but she doesnt think that maybe the people who are there are might not be the best friends of the elves because of their history fighting them (then again, numenor hates them too now for whatever reason so who knows) and maybe she should inform the high king of her findings before going to war with nothing because there is nothing there yet but they dont know that, sauron could be there and be preparing his armies as far as they know, so a small party of 2 or 3 ships of numenorean cavalry might not be enough. Finally, why would sauron leave a mark on everything pointing to mordor, even when he was under the service of melkor (like finrod)? and why was sauron in the middle of the sea? was he going to valinor to be judged as he had repented or was he just drifting away for no reason?

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I thoght many Tolkien fans doesnt want the seres to be aired

The thing is, Peter Jackson's LotR-films also had to introduce all those elements, but he did it in a natural way, all as key elements of Frodo's journey that felt significant BOTH as worldbuilding AND as part of his personal story which is something the viewer could connect with, which gave more emotional purpose and weight to all the lore stuff.

RoP does not have to establish everything at once, instead if they focus on an order of investment into the story, and from there a buildup to each race, when it is NEEDED, it will be more of a journey. Not because of nostalgia. Meanwhile that fantasy is crammed into the first episode. They should know if there is alot of fantasy to take more time for progressing the stories.

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Idk man moon knight was pretty good

@@chaotic-doxxer it was good but honestly should’ve been a movie instead

@@SD-uw7zu true

The Silmarilion, and the entire myth that Tolkien wrote, is full of human emotion, love, loss, triumphs and disasters in equal measure. Tragic stories, tragic events, victories and defeats all around. There isn't a single character he created, whether that character is an elf, a dwarf, a Maiar, a Valar or a human that doesn't have motivations, ambitions, flaws and virtues in equal measure. And all of those are things we all can understand and feel. So no. It isn't Tolkien's writing that misses human emotion and feeling. That is entirely on the screenwriters. The material is impeccable, right there with all the worlds classic literature. His characters always have a reason for their actions, and most of the time the actions they take are the product of their desires and ambitions. Same as every human on the face of the planet. It doesn't matter if the character is an elf or a human. His or her actions and choices are always explained in a way that makes sense. Take Luthien for example. She is one of the most important characters in the entire myth. She is an Elven princess that fell in love with Beren, a human. Her actions after meeting Beren are always actions that can be explained because of her love and the conflict that union brings between her elven heritage and immortality and her desire to be with Beren. Another example is Feanor, the most gifted and powerful Elf to ever exist. He is almost perfect in everything he does, But, he is also extremely proud and when slighted and humiliated, his pride demands to punish the perpetrator even if that action goes against the wishes of the Valar, the Gods of Tolkien's world. All the actions he takes after that event are actions that make sense when you know his character. Because the characters of Men and Elves are not that different. There is a different perspective in the way they view life since one is immortal and the other an ephemeral human being, but, the core elements of the social norms and behaviors are essentially the same. They get angry, they laugh and cry same as normal people. If you want to blame someone for the mess the RoP is, look no further than the showrunners and writers. They are hacks that wouldn't know a good story even if they had it in front of them.

@@kpetalis I never said anything about a lack of human emotion or feelings in Tolkien's work. I wouldn't dare. I specifically mentioned a lack of human *logic* which is what Filmento noted as well, and how that's a consequence of high fantasy writing. I don't disagree with you on a single thing you wrote.

Unless they change the showrunners and writing team it doesnt seem possible

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Not really unless if you characterize the dragons as people than their not as interchangeable as mere weapons! The dragons CAN disobey and do whatever they want when they choose to do so as seen with Aemond’s dragon during the final episode.

For me, the first five were solid (with 1&5 being standouts) but the later four, at best, a mixed bag

^really? yes Ep 09 was weak because of Tacked on Action Scene with Rhaenys that was just forced it seems however, like Ep 07 and Ep 08 were the at the most peak they have been until now

@@daredevil6145 true. I mean what's the point of doing that by Rhaenys if she's not going to dracarys them. That was just plain awful. The first 5 episodes was great but the last 4 episodes has great scenes and terrible scenes.

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