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@mouwritsbond7872
@mouwritsbond7872 7 лет назад
"Most adults look like adults, unfortunately." Lol he puts it so keenly
@lambusaab
@lambusaab 7 лет назад
'You can't teach anyone by humiliating them'
@l.e.shelly564
@l.e.shelly564 7 лет назад
thank you. young people need this. at 84 I found this so true.
@matejvaluch5897
@matejvaluch5897 7 лет назад
What makes Alain so popular is not his ideas, or his philosophy. It's his personality, charisma, and the special humble way he uses to present his ideas... always good to watch.
@sarahloffler
@sarahloffler 5 лет назад
El Matadores sounds like you might have some issues you need to address. Sorry about that, but must you bare them in public?
@sarahloffler
@sarahloffler 5 лет назад
Not his ideas? Wow. His ideas are absolutely liberating and educational. He delivers ideas that are artful, memorable, comprehensible, useful and eloquent.
@Soytu19
@Soytu19 5 лет назад
Mmmmh... not at all. What makes Alain so popular is precisely his outlook in life and his down to earth anti-idealistic philosophy. I have no idea about his personality and neither you do.
@sarahloffler1872
@sarahloffler1872 5 лет назад
Soytu19 don’t know who anyone is talking about anymore in this thread:. Peterson or de Botton? Either way, de Botton is a lovely breath of positive air and I enjoy hearing him speak.
@wineoe
@wineoe 5 лет назад
Soytu19 this man is an academic . He has a clear dispassionate outlook on the subject. These conclusions are totally analytical based on our human history since written word came about. I would suggest you read classics to learn what is ‘a temporary folie’ that is love.
@elizabethcartwright4673
@elizabethcartwright4673 7 лет назад
"They didn't fit my pattern for madness..." I'm going to say that from now on.
@orupiavincents36
@orupiavincents36 4 года назад
Actually calling it Crazy is more acceptable than mad; In his later lectures it's modified to Crazy. "They are crazy in a different unfamiliar way."
@wanderingsoul1189
@wanderingsoul1189 4 года назад
Subscribed your channel for that.
@munng5518
@munng5518 7 лет назад
Man, if only they taught love in school.
@muckiemarfe2782
@muckiemarfe2782 2 года назад
To sum this thing, Alain de Botton said "Love is a skill and a skill that needs to be learned. Love is not just admiration for strength, it is also tolerance for weakness and recognition of ambivalence. To be with another person is negotiating imperfections every day."
@nusratzaman3900
@nusratzaman3900 2 года назад
when I feel low, I hear this extraordinary man.. he speaks so well and is articulated brilliantly.
@beldonhuang
@beldonhuang Год назад
Love is not only built on top of sexual/romantic attraction but also the energy, time and patience that is put into improving and learning about each other and fixing the cracks along the way, which is definitely not fun. But this is exactly where the beauty and meaning of love lies, which is, regardless of our differences, the difficulties we have encountered or will encounter, we still choose to stay with each other and love each other.
@julessmith1633
@julessmith1633 7 лет назад
Never agreed with someone more than Alain. Brilliant talk - thank you for posting.
@LauraVolpintesta
@LauraVolpintesta 3 года назад
“Mutual enlightenment” I love that
@ssubra2000
@ssubra2000 6 месяцев назад
Well, that's not possible too. How can 2 "crazies" as Alain puts it create "mutual enlightenment". This is actually a weak point in an otherwise great talk.
@LauraVolpintesta
@LauraVolpintesta 6 месяцев назад
unless crazy is a path to enlightenment. @@ssubra2000
@TELEVISIBLE
@TELEVISIBLE 7 лет назад
I feel so good that everyone is crazy and it is not just me :)
@Wildflower3328
@Wildflower3328 7 лет назад
Desire doesn't last. Number one rule of marriage. Only duty and gratefulness does.
@Ruonerful
@Ruonerful 8 лет назад
Love this man, envy him also.
@evelynbarnett
@evelynbarnett 2 года назад
What an enlightening speaker. I’ve just binged three of his videos and hardly slept. See I am crazy too
@seandoherty925
@seandoherty925 7 лет назад
It is so nice to hear someone articulate things I have always felt myself. Also to know that they are common feelings. if there is to be any progress, individually or collectively we must start being more honest.
@dragon3252
@dragon3252 7 лет назад
*This guy changed the way i view life*
@Sudarshankunwar
@Sudarshankunwar 6 лет назад
Grateful to be introduced to Alain de Button at this phase of life. Late but still great. The philosopher of modern world that everyone needs to know about. Disagree or agree, he will make you think from different dimension. PS the video is as amazing as the book ‘The Course of Love’
@corellipersempre
@corellipersempre 4 года назад
Alain de Botton is probably one of the best philosophers of our age. If people ever wanted to understand a bit about living, de Botton and the school of life he created should be at the epicentre. How, I wonder we have become to be so false and deceiving about life and living and the majority just swallow it all up and take it as the absolute truth and try to burn those criticizing all the nonsense to the stake. It takes though a very mature and an open minded community who can actually put all these concepts into practice.
@MissMinaOh
@MissMinaOh 8 лет назад
Thank you for posting one of the best videos on RU-vid! Your talk needs to be seen by everyone. Pity that cat videos do so well. It's a strange world. I suppose cats provide that romantic love to humans. I watched this video from start to finish and appreciate you sharing your words of wisdom. Think a more appropriate title would be: The Future of the Way We Love by Alain de Botton.
@mimsaldinova7775
@mimsaldinova7775 8 лет назад
He has explored the subject of love in his book ''The Course of Love''. I would highly recommend it to anyone who wants to educate themselves...
@HELLOHELLO-ws1us
@HELLOHELLO-ws1us 7 лет назад
cats ???? are you wrecked?
@wouter7165
@wouter7165 2 года назад
Why are you hating on cat videos? Don't you know there's about a bazillion gamers that all stream about 14 hrs a day and it's actually being watched as well? XD
@NawieKim
@NawieKim 7 лет назад
What an intelligent and insightful speech! He became one of my favourite speakers now.
@gabrielbabourkurson
@gabrielbabourkurson 3 года назад
yees love him too! can u recommend some others please?
@jaydubya9265
@jaydubya9265 4 года назад
I can listen to this over and over. Great message. Excellent messenger.
@WhitestWaters
@WhitestWaters 7 лет назад
I see that people who criticize Alain are mostly criticizing his choice of words, or how he explains the history of love and such. I don't much about it, and maybe what he is saying isn't exactly 100% accurate, but content wise I do find that he pinpoints precisely the social conventions of today's society.
@AlwaysHereAndNow
@AlwaysHereAndNow 8 лет назад
THIS IS BRILLIANT ! So insightful and funny, and just, whether we like or not, so true.
@stevekennedy5380
@stevekennedy5380 8 лет назад
The average wedding costs $26,000. It is easy to see why romanticism is so widely promoted.
@AndrewN75
@AndrewN75 6 лет назад
Cynic
@headphonic8
@headphonic8 5 лет назад
weddings are large even in cultures without romanticism, like india for many of our parents with arranged marriages
@StefanGBucher
@StefanGBucher 3 года назад
@@headphonic8 They've traditionally been a display of wealth. Now we'e guilted into proving the degree of our love by how much money is spent. The same is true with funerals.
@kensurrency2564
@kensurrency2564 3 года назад
@@AndrewN75 Cynicism is a virtue. Keeps you out of a lot of trouble.
@mudit5151
@mudit5151 8 лет назад
wisdom , pure wisdom
@SaraElkilany
@SaraElkilany Год назад
That's why for most couples, happy marriage starts later in life after love disappears.
@nukhetyavuz
@nukhetyavuz 3 года назад
i love this man😂👍everything he says,is right,and he puts it in such a humorous way😂👍
@7r0s3s
@7r0s3s 3 года назад
''Most of us are on the edge of insanity. It's what it means to be human.'' LOL
@willieswicks782
@willieswicks782 7 лет назад
Love love love this guy!
@losmiquis
@losmiquis 8 лет назад
Awesome. So much wisdom.
@bolivar1789
@bolivar1789 8 лет назад
For friends who may not know: Alain has a wonderful youtube channel called " The School of Life". If you subscribe now, you can be sure that it will change your life! If I may recommend you something, here are three of my favourite videos from that channel: Memento Mori ( Made of legos!) First World Problems ( The story of our lives! With an excellent animation by Peter Caires) Higher Consciousness ( So inspiring...)
@pushthetempo2
@pushthetempo2 5 лет назад
His examples are brilliantly specific
@bwritest
@bwritest 3 года назад
This guy has best accent that exist here on earth.
@roseagaatsz8403
@roseagaatsz8403 6 лет назад
Beautiful ! And so true 🌈
@jing-chingchen2333
@jing-chingchen2333 3 года назад
wonderful speech his ideas are strong and coherent that makes the audients difficult to challenge!
@Gabrieleengstrom
@Gabrieleengstrom 7 лет назад
So true and amusing.
@livb6945
@livb6945 2 года назад
Perfect summary of what I have come to realise through life.
@richardmabe4186
@richardmabe4186 4 года назад
I think love schools should be compulsory. I have met enough people labouring under unrealistic romantic ideas that don't work for them and divorced bitter people who are totally disillusioned and damaged having bought into romantic nonsense.
@nigelwiseman8644
@nigelwiseman8644 5 лет назад
Wonderful wisdom!
@sarahwangu2933
@sarahwangu2933 5 лет назад
I can listen to this over and over so interesting and intelligent information
@bob2nifty
@bob2nifty 7 лет назад
beautifully said
@bondjames7007
@bondjames7007 Год назад
Love love love Alain - he sees the human world as it is - we are a mixed up bunch of weirdos, who believe they are Normal - very few of us have climbed down from the Trees 🌳🌳🌳
@harishnarendrula1377
@harishnarendrula1377 Год назад
What a Man or God , Sane, Sensible, Amazingly Touching, Wow God Bless You
@icemorewaterless
@icemorewaterless 7 лет назад
Looks like someone just philosophized the crap out of love---always a pleasure hearing you talk, Alain!
@richardmabe4186
@richardmabe4186 6 лет назад
A very well thought out honest talk and one everyone should see. I bought into the romantic delusion when young but soon felt there was some thing artificial about it. Excellent to hear someone tell the truth about human beings, dangerous to be around and on the edge of insanity! Nice one!!
@johnhill762
@johnhill762 2 года назад
This “anti romantic” view is stupid.
@yolandevanschalkwyk4042
@yolandevanschalkwyk4042 7 лет назад
love this guy
@zebrafigs8450
@zebrafigs8450 5 лет назад
Lol I love the content. And I like how it feels fore like a stand up routine then a lecture. Has a lot of similar ideas to a book called getting the love you want.
@vbabe360
@vbabe360 3 года назад
Wonderful speech!
@boyofthestreets
@boyofthestreets 8 лет назад
Great man! I will be like you
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 8 лет назад
I'd love to see a Slavoj Zizek vs. Alain de Botton debate.
@maryreilly5102
@maryreilly5102 7 лет назад
Matt Gilbert Alain wouldn't stand a chance!
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 7 лет назад
Mary Reilly Right you are!
@DCI-Frank-Burnside
@DCI-Frank-Burnside 6 лет назад
I'd be too distracted by that resplendent dome shining under the studio light
@RPSartre01
@RPSartre01 5 лет назад
No one understands Slavoj because he’s a mess
@ehrendamitz2555
@ehrendamitz2555 7 лет назад
Love you Bro!
@dkipu266
@dkipu266 5 лет назад
“....people cannot seem to invest in the deep mutual enlightenment..” but when they do, mutually, what a great relationship of growth, realization and peace you can have.
@rea-lb6bu
@rea-lb6bu 6 лет назад
i swear i've watched this like 4 times but i know by heart now
@PoloABD
@PoloABD 2 года назад
Brilliance
@DeanRendar
@DeanRendar 6 лет назад
wish i saw this sooner.
@ucjackle
@ucjackle 6 лет назад
I've been watching a lot of his presentations on love and I think I've fallen in love with him plz help
@ChristianHunter
@ChristianHunter 4 года назад
Elle Doubleu lol! If I were a woman I might be thinking the same thing...I’d need him to get rid of those side flaps of hair first....would look SO MUCH BETTER!!!
@StrawberryAppleCream
@StrawberryAppleCream 4 года назад
Omg this is so funny while being informative
@unguided_za3084
@unguided_za3084 3 года назад
Alain knows his stuff.
@southerngirl0085
@southerngirl0085 4 года назад
This is true.. That's why Im single, I pick someone's mind just to understand how someone thinks, how they get mad before sleeping with them unfortunately men nowadays are intimidated or get bored with that process hence they leave thinking I am not rea interested.
@kensurrency2564
@kensurrency2564 3 года назад
It is unfortunate indeed that we have been conditioned to value body over mind. I say the mind is most important, because the body is only a passing fancy. The values and virtues that we hold are timeless and will either make or break relationships.
@Psi2023rio
@Psi2023rio 5 лет назад
we have to reinvent love. Unfortunately, people are so attached to the romantic ideals... They prefer to suffer unnecessarily
@KeithMakank3
@KeithMakank3 Год назад
He's so nice to listen to its like he's reading verses from the common sense bible or something
@Lilacleaf49065
@Lilacleaf49065 7 лет назад
Though his termanology can be crude at times, I love his humour and honasty. If only somebody had told me this earlier in my life...alas I learned it anyway.
@petarkandic3566
@petarkandic3566 3 года назад
perfect
@PoloABD
@PoloABD 2 года назад
I think some romanticism is fine, as long as we’re aware it’s kind of a game.
@h.hholmes.492
@h.hholmes.492 3 года назад
He should do stand up
@SUBSYNDICATE
@SUBSYNDICATE 8 лет назад
it's sad that he's rushing so much, but content-wise he pin-points the modern society like no other. I love to listen to Alain de Botton in his 'School of Live' - Videos. For the future I'd wish that he can translate the calmness that his videos inherent
@Graciey188
@Graciey188 8 лет назад
you can read his book The Course of Love
@JakeCollinge
@JakeCollinge 6 лет назад
I have to agree - it's fantastic that he covers so many mediums and platforms, but you really get the feeling that he's done this many times and some of the videos are very fast. I'm a fan of what he is doing, but a little more breathing room would be nice
@Asantewarrior
@Asantewarrior Год назад
great
@anastasiah2398
@anastasiah2398 3 года назад
I need to find someone with Alain de Botton's wisdom and sense of humor.
@cyberlioness
@cyberlioness 7 лет назад
so absolutely dead on
@jamesstuartbrice420
@jamesstuartbrice420 5 лет назад
Alain de Botton's discussion reminds me of my first girlfriend. she complained sometime that I was too rational. I tried to be less rational, but one day she simply refused to ever talk to me or go out again. There was no educational effort involved. I suppose the different approaches to love that Alain de Botton is describing are found in "Pride and Prejudice". Charlotte marries Mr. Collins for economic security, she is not interested in romantic love and simply wants a fairly comfortable life. She tries to avoid spending too much time with Mr Collins. Lizzie wants both economic security and romantic love. She at first rejects Mr Darcy because of his personal qualities of pride and arrogance, but later she learns that he is more compassionate than she thought and the two educate each other in love and social relations. Lydoa falls for Mr Wickham, who has no fortune and is a bit of a ne'er do well. Presumably she is purely emotional in her romantic love. And of course Jane is attracted to Mr Bingley because of both love and the need for security, and both can understand each other. However, they are temporarily separated because of Mr Darcy's mistaken interpretation of Jane's motives. In the series "Sex and the City", Charlotte and Trey seem to be a perfect couple until it becomes clear that Trey is impotent. She tries to educate him in sex, and he tries to learn, but in the end he is unable to become a good sexual partner and unable to impregnate Charlotte.-As she cannot live without a sex life and children, she asks for a divorce. Her second husband is her divorce lawyer who is not as handsome, cultivated or wealthy as Trey, but he is a good sex partner, and they do manage to have a child. So in a way education in love has its limits, even when there is a desire. Other women simply do not make an effort to educate their partner at all, as with Samantha and some of her partners, while some women try but only to a certain point. And these types of behavior are illustrated in the various relations in the series, as Alain de Botton says.
@el-mehdibenchaib9950
@el-mehdibenchaib9950 6 лет назад
We need to examine romanticism and love. Intellectuals, poets and authors give us many imaginary answers. they imagine things no one is enough wise to give us what is love? Why do we fall in love? I think that we must revise our standards of romanticism and love and base our knowledge about them not in imagining love stories and what should love be? Instead what should we do to fulfill love as it is? but in a psychological analysis based in real stories not chosen and imaginary ones.
@sagebreezy
@sagebreezy 7 лет назад
if you ever come to Kenya i will gladly host you free.. Absolutely love you.
@sinanmiyagi3436
@sinanmiyagi3436 8 лет назад
Wonderful talk. Would love to see Alain in conversation with Sex of Dawn author Christopher Ryan
@ianconn951
@ianconn951 8 лет назад
I would love Chris to have Alain on his podcast.
@helencash7131
@helencash7131 8 лет назад
this guy is great comedy philosophy with an underlying sense of realism...truism???????????????
@blackpearl1t
@blackpearl1t 8 лет назад
wow this was excellent. great mind
@genesismayer3865
@genesismayer3865 8 лет назад
he said "reinvent love" and my ryan ross stanning ass shrieked and now im sobbing
@georgesteinfeld3971
@georgesteinfeld3971 2 года назад
Very funny and wise
@jamiefitzgrade7960
@jamiefitzgrade7960 5 лет назад
I'm here only because of Peep Show. My mind is blown!
@martimalvesdelima6536
@martimalvesdelima6536 8 лет назад
Brilliant DUDE DDD
@jeeves2000
@jeeves2000 7 лет назад
Brilliant, intelligent, funny... a sort of stand up comedy that also makes you think, like Wooky Allen!
@Lightguide777
@Lightguide777 8 лет назад
When are those ideas becoming part of the curriculum??? It is high time!
@thedevo01
@thedevo01 7 лет назад
Glass slippers never fit.
@hakusansaku8800
@hakusansaku8800 7 лет назад
...we are very dangerous beings and most of us are on the edge to insanity... (4:30) I'd say it's business as usual.
@AlexandraNaber
@AlexandraNaber 7 лет назад
I really want to know what that "Thing" is... :o
@vasantham9274
@vasantham9274 7 лет назад
researching is the key to romanticism
@stephenkirby1455
@stephenkirby1455 8 лет назад
‘Most of us stand poised at the edge of brilliance, haunted by the knowledge of our proximity, yet still demonstrably on the wrong side of the line.’ Alain de Botton, The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work (2009) Most of us stand poised at the edge of understanding the truth, not quite grasping that the daily accessing of the genius, and more, capabilities of the intelligence we each received at the moment of our creation is the process for accessing knowledge which proximates our empirically perspectivized knowledge with the truth that we feel our perception elucidates. ‘...our dealings with reality undermined by a range of minor yet critical psychological flaws (a little too much optimism, an unprocessed rebelliousness, a fatal impatience or sentimentality).’ Alain de Botton, The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work (2009) Our dealings with the reality of our perception are undermined by a range of moderate, yet overcomable, perspective flaws (vested-ness in information only masquerading as the truth, which both reside as clutter within our subconscious mind, and as a daily bombardment of biases and undue influences from the culture which surrounds each one of us.) ‘We are like an exquisite high-speed aircraft which for lack of a tiny part is left stranded beside the runway, rendered slower than a tractor or bicycle.’ Alain de Botton, The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work (2009) We humans possess genius, and more, capabilities of intelligence, which for lack of a tiny piece of individual understanding, leaves us stranded beside the highway of life, rendered stupider and slower by our free will choices to only meet the ‘average’ to ‘stupid’ levels of the norms and expectations of the culture in which we are compelled to exist to survive. Seek Truth. Seek Your Truth. Experience the happier-ness of accessing the Whole Truth. And then you’ll know. That is the truth. I am an everyman, if I can do it, anyone can.
@classicalperformances8777
@classicalperformances8777 3 года назад
Hmm...actually Carenina, Bovary etc. were about women being judged for following their hearts not adultery in general...
@ThatsWhenItkickedin
@ThatsWhenItkickedin 7 лет назад
Pity be to the person who falls for the complicated one the abused, and the mentally screwed Pity be to the person who thinks they can repair or show them how "real love" goes Pity be to the person who can't make the abused suffer as suffer they must in order to feel loved Pity be to the abused one who has trashed the good man in her search for the real love Many lifetimes were chanced and lost, when life's path itself disappeared and she sunk Into the red moon's lagoon Her message "I'm sorry", too late
@kittuojha
@kittuojha 5 лет назад
who authored it...... butiful
@merthanoglu4956
@merthanoglu4956 8 лет назад
It would be awesome if this video had subtitles :/
@classicalperformances8777
@classicalperformances8777 3 года назад
Hmm...actually what was called romanticism, starting in mid 19th century, had little to do with marriage or romantic love the way we mean it now, but rather with artists finding, inventing, breathing, eating drama in life, heroicism etc
@scottgoulette8900
@scottgoulette8900 3 года назад
I think you'll find that love was at the center of these romantic artists of which you speak, expressed through the respective media in which they worked.
@kimothemo
@kimothemo 8 лет назад
Do you have subtitles? Thanks.
@maryreilly5102
@maryreilly5102 7 лет назад
I don't completely agree with him about the mad thing. Could you not in principle hate being with someone for being too normal/boring? I'm sure you could. And this would not involve madness unless you also consider being boring as a mad state. You can also love a person more the more you realise they are not as normal as we thought they were. He presumes that we all look for exceptionally balanced individuals when in fact that is not what we want but what society instills upon us. We are required to appear normal once we step outside our homes. Madness is not socially acceptable and that is why we don't show our madness until we are deep in a relationship, but that doesn't mean that beeing crazy within certain limits is wrong. One of the beauties of love consists in knowing your partner better than anyone else and accept their 'craziness', aka defects. Alain implies that we should hung a disclaimer on our necks listing our defects or 'mad ways'. If everyone is mad then no one is cause that would render the word 'normal' meaningless given that normality would be inexistent. So this means everyone is normal since everyone is mad and that is the general therefore normal state of people's mind.
@DrBenVincent
@DrBenVincent 8 лет назад
genius
@rich8304
@rich8304 5 лет назад
very good.i believe he is on to something
@fabiofatigati1834
@fabiofatigati1834 3 года назад
Mai lavorato,arbeit!
@vasantham9274
@vasantham9274 7 лет назад
madness is godliness
@nyfbid
@nyfbid 7 лет назад
Looks like u doing business of my life lol
@marinamartinovska363
@marinamartinovska363 7 лет назад
We have different capacities to love.
@oliverchunxu2040
@oliverchunxu2040 7 лет назад
the title is misleading.
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