Why run wide at parabolica? Italy 2019 (Part 1): "Just stay inside the lines!" 

Rafael Martino atleast its much more interesting to watch than F1

Yep and I dont want f1 to be as stupid as that FE. Instead the Silverstone idea is better

Stole my thunder 7 months in advance

SN nah fe soundshorrible

@@Snoooo No thanks, not interested.

oh man i'm glad i wasn't the only one who noticed

Monza 2020 didn't aged well tho for Leclerc

no ...not perfect; all 4 tires are to be within the white line.

@@arposkraft3616 No you dont lol

@@arposkraft3616 It's 2 tires, innit? If it were 4 tires, then every time a driver eats a kerb would be a five-second penalty.

Yeah but then they could only do like 30 laps so that whould suck for spectators.. and also think about getting a puncure out of turn 1 then you have a huge problem or even think about accidents happening.... I dont think it whould work

@@Drie_Kleuren Less, the distance required is 300km + 1lap I think. La Sarthe is over 13km long, so about 24 laps. Also, it would probably be boring as hell, as the distances between the cars would be huge. Still, would love to see it at least once.

@@Ficii1 more than 305km

Fici yeah I just used 30 laps since I was to lazy to search up how big the track is so thanks for that info :)

Imagine F1 at the Nordschleife

With some sprinklers, for a guaranteed extra slippery surface. 😉

At hockenheim that wasnt such a fast corner, parabolica with slippery runoff would absolutely result in deaths

@@mielvanvelzen5967 Doubt it. 180 km/h is quite something, but even a 300 km/h head-first crash is quite easily survivable nowadays.

@@mscbijles1256 would u really risk it? I'd rather find a solution that doesnt involve such danger, spinning out and hitting at a diffrent angle then head on? Two cars going off one after the other and colliding hubert style? I'd rather not.

@@mscbijles1256 + @Miel van Velzen: fight it out in the rain, like real dutchmen. I know the perfect spot! 😆

At least on the second half of Parabolica. At that point the car has sufficiently slowed and is turning that if they lost control it wouldn't hit the wall at crazy speed or angle.

You always have to keep MotoGP in mind, a lot of these circuits also want to host their races, so FIM has a say when it comes to kerbs and run-off areas. They tend to (understandably) push for less risky designs than the FIA.

cerebellum well actually FIM it’s pushing more and more for the return of gravel. For example SPA announced that for next year they are putting back gravel in the run-off area where the unfortunate incident of Hubert (RIP Tonio) happened. Not as a reaction after the incident but actually as a request of FIM to adapt to the new MotoGP safety rules

@@51m0n397 They want to race MotoGP at Spa? O.O Last I've heard only a sub category of superbike or something was the only motorbike race at spa

Cippa Cathion it has not been confirmed yet but the organizers of SPA want to be back in motoGP and they are starting the works to adapt the circuit to motoGP rules. In the mean time it has been announced that in 2022 they will host the 24 Hours of Spa motorcycle event.

I'm not sure, it could cause them to lose grip and spin out. You want punishment, not cars crashing and causing a safety car.

@@hkr667 How so? It means they have to take the turn with less speed instead of going full speed and thus, going over the isle (White line)

@@hkr667 Well, if there was a wall, there would be an even worse punishment, so I think it's fair to have the drivers risk a spin if they don't drive where they are supposed to. Also I think it's safer than being launched in the air by a crappy kerb.

@@hkr667 dont think u need grass strip to spin at Monza, if u get my drift hehehe.

@@SuperLololololo1 Vettel is not amused by your joke ;)

I thought of France immediately when he mentioned it. It would make that track so much better.

They could even keep the tarmac and just coat a measured width with something that has a calibrated reduction in grip, like a slippery paint. Leaving the rough asphalt surface would hopefully prevent it becoming a waterslide when it rains, like the drag strip in Germany.

Im a big fan of grass and gravel. If you go off track you will get punished.

@@tubularcandy812 See ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5N06z6VHXGA.html for that discussion

+COTA

Thats actually the best Idea i ever read 😂

B a n a n a

lol, except that in Formula E... running wide in most corners means getting acquainted with the wall 😁

Honda says that Verstappen's engine problem was partially caused by some FIA sensors suddenly kicking in, and putting a limit to the power output. If they told the truth, it is absolutely possible to use these restrictors deliberately as punishments.

@@Petidani0330 the FIA (Ferrari Assistance International) have been known to favor Ferrari in the past. Let's just say, that I wouldn't be surprised at all, if this were the case at Monza.

@@perp1exed Right, so Ferrari wanted Red Bull, specifically Verstappen who already had to start from way back on the grid, to be screwed over by the FIA, but not Mercedes, their main rival and the manufacturer with the best engine until this year? Wow, just wow.

@@Petidani0330 Ferrari have been ruthless in screwing over competitors (using the FIA) in the past; including Williams (Montoya) and McLaren (Hakkinen) just to name a couple. I'm not asserting they screwed Max over at Monza... that would be ridiculous. What I'm saying is, that i'm certain they wouldn't pass over the opportunity if given the chance.

It has sort of sandpaper tarmac though and i think if u would put an extreme version of that at parabolica that'd take 3-4 laps off of off your tires nobody would go there.

Yeah it would work, but it hurts my eyes 😂

@@Locomattive8572 im sure the color isnt needes. They could probably make it black

@@mielvanvelzen5967 Considering the speeds that the cars travel through that turn it might make the situation worse and end up with a modern day Michelin Indianapolis fiasco.

@@Rab1dGAMER fair enough, although i dont honestly think that'll happen but it obviously should be tested first

Yeah

*Went 1 cm off the track _Exceeding track limits, 2 seconds time penalty_

@@_Neutralizer *half a tyre goes out of the corner* "10 second time penalty for corner cutting, it will be applied after the session"

Except for the physics and terminology errors, sure, I guess.

@@stephendee7839 oh, which ones?

@@snafuet "DECELERATE out of Parabolica" at 1:30 (instead of "accelerate"). and the graph showing speed increasing from (zero?) to 180 instead of decreasing to 180 under braking. It's a hot mess!

And even cooler is that some things he discusses can also be applied to other motosports like GT3 or Le Mans. Really amazing.

One of the best youtubers. Wish he had a patreon so we could stop that audible bs

@@satyris410 He has a Patreon. Just read the description

@@Sanmibor oh, he should be more shameless in promoting it. I'm heading to sign up right now. Easily in my top 5 tubers

Bahahahahahahahahaha

Sausage curbs are still in Laguna Seca. Granted modern F1 isn't racing there but it's still dangerous to cars with such low heights. I'd prefer to get stuck in the sand than in a fence after flipping from a sausage.

Yep. The best idea is the grass strip.

Drakan I heard laurel 🤔

Concerns of digging in an flipping

Congratulations, you invented street circuits

Do you want dead drivers? Because that’s how you get dead drivers.

Dylan Palafox senna part 2 electric boogaloo

Go proper old fashioned and put hay bales there instead.

Dylan Palafox So Monaco shall never return again then? Heard it here first folks!!!

Where?

Yep. The grass strip is the best.

@@adi-sngh in that situation both do the same thing. grass might even be worse

That's something Max would do LMAO

Aditya Singh How does Grass Strip solve that problem...in that case, the driver at fault still doesn’t get punished...?

What if a driver is run wide? Like Leclerc did to Hamilton in Monza, or Verstappen to Leclerc in Austria? The idea sounds great, but it would be disastrous without steward intervention.

Automatic (as stewards, too) may make mistake or may be tweaked in some way)

@@perp1exed Could be as simple as it's only added to sections that are abused for better lap times (Parabolica, Pouhon or Stavelot at Spa, etc.). Or make the system automatic, and the drivers get a slow down penalty they have to serve within a lap or two. This would give the teams time to contest the penalty with the FIA. If they driver doesn't slow down, they face a harsher penalty (think of iRacing).

@@perp1exed An automatic penalty could be applied that could be easily cancelled by the stewards.

I disagree with all of you, and am 100% against any automated system. Not that I love the constant FIA meddling during races... but I can guarantee that an automated system will be worse. There are just too many variables to account for. A better solution is to use removable track materials like grippy astroturf, to simulate grass on corners. That's an analog solution that does not interfere with racing in any way. It's much better than stewards or sensors policing track limits. I guess you guys are arguing the issue from the perspective that stewards are generally not as "consistent" as they should be. I'm arguing from the perspective, that policing is bad... period. The less drivers are policed, the better racing we will see imo. (P.S: I do think the FIA is vital to motorsport and the safety of drivers, stewards and fans. My issue is with the over-policing of the racing itself. I support all safety measures, as long as the FIA shut their mouths and let people race, once the race has begun. )

@pop9104 exactly, they Will think twice before they try to extract all the tarmac at parabolica