No apple just knows foldables aren’t really the new thing like some fanboys here want it to be, Apple is used to selling phones in the 100s of millions per quarter not phones that take decades to sell only 10s of millions They know the price point of such devices just can’t be justified to most people and it’s just not possible to replace a normal smartphone design that cost less than half as much
@@khunt1947 when have they ever done that? I’m curious, having them say “new on an iPhone” isn’t claiming they invented it, they are just saying it’s new to the iPhone. Samsung on the other hand copies a lot from Apple
The folds are great, I love mine and couldn't imagine going back. They need to work on a few things but I'm fine with pushing the tech forward, just gotta get the insurance 😁
Complaining about the price of a foldable phone while buying an apple iphone for the same price sounds insane . people literally turn their heads when someone pulls out a foldable phone
@@bryanmiller476 they literally cost more than $1000 in most of the world. Sometimes more than $1400 . But sure, that's considered cheap for you right? You are right about one thing. They do feel cheap
@@nujjigram yes and when it’s that $1400 for that iPhone that’s due to your particular country’s import taxes but still foldables are even more, more than $2000 after taxes
@@nujjigram for example, here in America the most expensive iPhone being the iPhone 13 Pro Max 1tb model will come to just under $1730 after tax But a Samsung Galaxy Fold 3 with half the storage of only 512gb after tax is normally gonna cost you about $2050 Even the cheapest model of the fold 3 with just 256gb is just $100 less than the 512gb model But if you match storages than the 256gb iPhone 13 Pro Max will be under $1300 making it about $600 cheaper than the 256gb fold 3
I have Z Fold 3 about 7 months in with it and still love it . Battery and performance are good . Camera is ok not stellar but perfectly serviceable. The screen to watch content on is a joy .
@@superiortoall22 it depends on usage like any other phone . If you hammer the internal screen all day long then yeh the battery takes a beating. You become a zen master of working out how the battery behaves after a while
@@thedon404 not really, if you have good battery then it shouldn’t matter what you throw at it, you shouldn’t have to tip toe or “become a zen master on how the battery behaves”. You shouldn’t have to limit your time on the internal screen, turn off 120hz or put in power saver mode, doing those things at the end of a normal work day doesn’t constitute a “good battery”. Also the charging on this phone is slow, so that’s another thing you have to deal with.
I have a z fold 3. The thing I really like about it is the screen size when unfolded is perfect for reviewing / reading word documents, PowerPoint files and excel sheets. If you are constantly on the go and deal with written documents the z fold 3 can be your own mini laptop. What the fold has meant for me is that I don't have to take a laptop with me - and that's a real change on a day to day basis.
I have the Z Fold 3. Had it for a good year now. I love it. Its still early, but with time and competition I think the size and feel of the phones will be fleshed out. I'd like to see the fold get a wider front screen even though you get used to narrow screen it quickly; and it'd be nice if they can work some voodoo to make the battery a bit better. If you use the battery all day everyday non-stop then it probably won't last the entire day. overall, I haven't had any issues with it, and happily I'd buy a foldable phone again.
they managed to improve the battery life on the fold 4 by a lot, and the screen got a tiny bit wider... So, they are moving in the right direction. I like my z fold 3, but I don't love it, I kinda miss the normal phones hahahah
I have had iPhones for years. Latest was 12 pro max, since going to the fold 3 there is no way I can go back to a normal phone. Specially for work, I got everything on the z fold 3 . I can use the pen, write emails and read pdfs confortably. Apple needs to work on it. It's truly a no brainer once you get used to it
Why not I just get an iPad mini instead? It’s still small, but it gets work done with a bigger screen like the fold. I just have a phone for speed/convenience, while a small tablet for more productivity/gaming. Meanwhile with a foldable I’m forced to hold essentially 2 phones, regardless of it being folded or opened. With 2 separate devices it’s actually cheaper.
@@soberanisfam1323 i think you mean "can't" which I agree. But then , are the trade-offs really worth it? The ability to have a tablet with a form factor of a phone is convenient, but you sacrifice so much in return other than just the plasticky display, although the newer iterations by Samsung displays feel much more sturdy than previous generations. It's a similar dilemma to pop-up cameras which I'm glad that trend died. You get edge-to-edge display, but at a major cost....
Foldable probably gonna get phased out once rollable phone start to emerge in the market. We know Samsung is already working on it. It will be more compact and no creasing problem.
I still use the 2020 Fold 2 as a 2nd device. Still happy with the phone. It's great to have a small tablet. Hope they will never stop producing the folds
@@nathanielcooper9908 come one dude, you are clicking on random womens profiles on youtube and throwing out compliments. While she seems to have enjoyed it, dont ypu feel the slightest bit pathetic throwing out your attention and validation to a total stranger? Idk you, but i feel it's important for you to know that your behavior is rather pathetic and unbecoming of an adult male.
@@nathanielcooper9908 I'm assuming you are single, could be wrong....but Im fairly confident you are. Let me be clear, hitting on random women online, throwing out random undeserved compliments (shes ok but her photo is clearly using filters to modify her appearance) etc....these are reasons you are single and alone. Stop it, get some help.
Apple: Pay for last gen tech at next gen prices and be told by marketing how cool you are. Been rocking a Fold 2 now Fold 3. Zero complaints other than battery but that's easily fixed with a mid day charge or tweaking the settings to lower battery friendly settings. If you can afford it, I highly recommend it.
@@insomniah if true, enjoy it, you never know how long before Apple reduces the battery life for you. 🤭. Interesting that you get waaay better life than what Apple reports...just maybe you all use it differently.
I have tried Samsung's folding phones several times. My issue with the Fold is that it's too heavy and the outside screen is too narrow to use most of the time. My problem with the Flip is that the outer screen is useless and I don't feel like flipping the phone open to reply to every single sms I receive. It's just an extra step.Then there's the battery life. They need to make the outer screen more useful.
I don't mind flipping open my flip. It becomes very entertaining, comfortable, and seemless. I used to have a galaxy watch but the front cover took the place of it because of the very easy info at a glance, it's made me not want to check every single notification and created a healthy balance in my life. It's a 9/10 phone and I'd recommend it to anyone
@@Sky-jj2gk On my galaxy watch, I could actually reply to a text message. The screen on the galaxy watch is smaller than the cover screen on the flip. There's no excuse for not giving us that capability. It's not a 9/10 phone. It's a decent device, but it has a lot of room for improvement.
@@Gravage I'm not gonna lie, it's easier to open the phone than to respond to a text on the galaxy watch. My only problem is how the crease makes it difficult to open notifications that lie on the crease and the camera is ½ of the S22
I've watched some tech reviewers mentioning that the flip design actually improve his wellbeing, it keeps his fomo away because he didn't get to see his phone screen while it's being shut closed. I think it could be one major point to switch to flip phone and yes I believe the flip and fold will be here for a longer time.
Fold 3 owner. I rolled my eyes so many times during this. 1) Flip phones have nothing to do with these Folds. 2) I bet these guys are Apple users 3) The cover screen is now improved & battery too. 4) The initial problems were caused by reviewers to create clickbait (peeling off the protection, sticking things in the hinge). Apple users hope this category goes nowhere as it really shows Apple's lack of innovation and causes users to question why they're still with Apple. Fold 3 changed my phone life. I only care about 1 phone release each year now: the new Fold. No other phones can compete and do what this does.
The real reason Samsung keeps making foldable phones is so that the technology gets good enough so that one day they can supply them to Apple and make mad bank off of them.
Not really! They make them to say to Apple. Look what we are doing at our company. You’re still doing the same thing. So since we are popular with foldable phones, you would have to play catch up
Why Apple is too lazy on working on foldable? Because they are actually a software company than a hardware. Apple still depend on other companies on the hardware, it's means the innovation also depend on the hardware innovation made by those company. Foldable is technically about how to revolutionize the display technology which Apple still depend on other company. Unless Samsung and Apple wprking on the good deal on display manufacturer, the we can see foldable Apple. Long time ago we saw a big fight between those company on who copy who, who is more innovate tha other. Today, we see the truth. Which company is in consistent progress and which one is too lazy to innovate.
Wrong? What about technology like force touch and haptic feedback? These are hardware tech developed by Apple accompanied by good software implementation. Apple has tight control of software and hardware. Apple is not a company we know that simply follow trends.
@@damnfreakingsien yes, they are the innovation company before Jobs leave. Not following the trends? Hmmm....this is the reason some big company become to crumble like Nokia and BB.
@@adhisarakridowasono1019 a lot of things are still highly innovative, like those hardware that I mentioned above which were developed after jobs departure. Following trends doesn’t mean it’s necessarily a good thing. Android phones change their phone’s appearance drastically every year, but is that a good thing? No, it raises R&D and production cost for the sake of aesthetics to try to sell more phones. Apple usually only change hardware appearance primarily for practical reasons.innovation also happens on the inside.
@@damnfreakingsien tech is so dynamic and fluid, once you move slower than the competitor, then you'll miss the train. Apple is just have a good job on branding and marketing, they aro so confident with the brand meanwhile the demograpics and tech is so dynamic. Look at Nokia's history, being the leader for decades and almost no competition, but then everything changes, they can't keep up with progress. We can't say that Nokia having bad product, they only too lazy to follow the market. R&D is the most important on tech company, more to industry that has a very vast competition like smartphone. People is getting bored someday.
@@adhisarakridowasono1019 yeah. But Android phone makers R&D focuses more on flashy features, while apple’s R&D focus on things that actually matter (think Center stage, Face ID, ARM). If people are getting bored, then don’t buy a new phone. Simple. My old phone still works extremely well and it still looks modern compared to android phones of the same era. Why do we need to change phones so frequently?
Yes! thats why I got the ZFlip 3 rather than going with my usual iPhone pro. I wanted something different and nostalgic, thats exactly what I got, the flip reminds me of the good old days when I had my Motorola Razor V3 in high school. I remember feeling like the coolest kid in the school I was the only one that had one so the flip gets that same kind of attention and I love it! Yes the value isn't great for the money, the battery is bad but even a year later I still get a kick out of it.
The real question is why does Samsung purposely make cheaper phones have a bigger border than expensive ones, when they could easily make all phones have no border.
It’s just unnecessarily complicated for the gimmicky nature. Why do we need a foldable phone? We don’t. This is just screen manufacturers pushing the limits for clout.
After the demise of the Blackberry, for which I was a decades long user, I have been trying to decide what is next for me. I love the idea of a flip phone, but costs and other downsides have stopped me from making a purchase. As I am retired on a fixed income, price is a big factor. For now, I will continue on with my basic Motorola flip phone which I only use for texting and calls, but I am growing tired of its overall lack of capabilities. Still, I cannot afford buy something that has not been time-tested. I will continue to research the evolution of flip phones. I truly enjoyed your analysis.
You forgot to mention that foldables need to be durable because the foldable glass will not last like what happened to the zfold of utuber Michael Fisher after 8 months of continued use. Its that expensive so I expect it to last for 5 years without having it repaired just by constant use
I have a fold 3. Its much better then my samsung s9 phone. I love my fold! It has a bigger screen, pretty comfortable feel, the s pen is nice, and some other things that I like. Pretty cool phone 🤘
I'LL SAY IT 1000 TIMES! FOLDABLE PHONES WILL VANISH LIKE POP UP SELFIE CAMERAS! Man! Simply because it is a folding screen with moving parts. And it'll break after certain number of folds! Remember the popup selfie camera era when every other brand was like on fire to sell those in their phones? And everybody was likewise screaming at Apple for being un-innovative!
Really?! I kind think that I know what you’re talking about. Are you talking about those cameras that pop out of the top of a phone when someone takes a picture?!
This was more of a passionate plea to Apple by its Chief Spin Network to get in on the act... than a nod of acknowledgement to Samsung for pioneering ground breaking engineering! Swipe-typing this on my Fold2 (front screen) which is still the most interesting thing IN EVERY ROOM I step in!!!
I guess it a matter of taste, but it seems to me that the fold of this flip phone would be cumbersome to the quality of the screen. But hey, to each their own.
The Z Flip is a really cool phone, and I've seen a lot of reviews that it's great in real world usage. What I would really love is for Google to do a flip phone, as I love their camera system.
Interesting video, because you can't help but think, "Why aren't others doing this, only Samsung and a few others? They're either seeing something the other ones aren't (a bigger future), or the others are seeing something else Samsung isn't (it not living up to the hype)
I have both the Z Fold 3 and an IPhone 13 Pro Max, I just took my SIM card out of the Fold 3 and put it back in my iPhone. The Fold 3 is neat to use a few times but I don’t think it’s going to dominate the market until the foldables can weigh and be as thin as the candy bar style phones now with the same amount of battery endurance.
I worked in a phone store bear in Jamaica where I’m from and we got a few samsung flip and zfold 3 and zfold 4 phones and their currently gathering dust lol all iPhones are selling out even the old ones like 7 and 8s ! I’ve yet to se anyone walking round with a foldable
Z fold 3 was incredible this past year for me. If I'm honest I would buy the huawei if it was available in the states cause it looks better but Samsung can make the fold better they're just being cheap when it comes to hardware
the Samsung Flip 3 is really cool but the camera is not that good yet, as soon as the camera on smartphones with the format is the same as on my Pixel 6 Pro, I'll get a flip phone, no matter the brand. (except Apple they will never see a dime from me)
Personally I'm not interested in a foldable phone for a few reasons... thickness, weight, and screen crease. It's double the thickness (while folded) than my S22 Ultra. I'm not quite sure where people get this idea that a foldable fits better in their pocket. The S22 Ultra fits just fine, while a thicker (foldable) phone bulges. Not to mention the weight difference in the Zfold 4 at 9.28oz while my S22 Ultra is 8.08oz. Oh and who wants a crease in the display? Lol. Yeah a lot of negatives for a foldable device here. I don't mind if they're here to stay, as long as they don't replace what I already like in a phone.
I have nothing against Samsung… except their stupid commercials that keep playing with “OK Google”. That’s NOT OK. It keeps activating my smart speakers.
@@stormchaser0898 I partially disagree, I had a tablet which I hardly used and then I got a fold which I use very often. I think it's the portability factor that puts me off using a tablet because u can't simply take it everywhere with u because it's so big and the fold provides that. Like yes I liked using the tablet but it was too big for travel
Apple may not release things because other companies do but the opposite is definitely true. When apple releases a foldable iphone is when foldables will become will become mainstream and all other phone makers will jump on the bandwagon. No bigger apple sheep than its competitors. And yes i do realize i just stated the obvious so no one needs to write a snarky comment about it. I just felt like talking.
U know why apple take too long coz they need samsung display to supply the foldable display and that's a big money for samsung coz apple don't have that display yet.
These niche market toys are never going to dominate the market as the did when the design was first done 30 years ago. They have 3 fatal flaws 1. The plastic screen which isn't going to be made any better anytime soon. 2. The battery life is far to inferior to non folding phones. 3. The price is still far to high but it will be the easiest to overcome but not enough to overcome the other 2 fatal flaws.
I'm using the Z Flip first gen, and yes my 2 year old unit has suffered a small screen puncture due to a fingernail and the small external display has partially bleeded due to a fall... still using it though at this moment, in fact watching and commenting on this RU-vid video on it, too costly to repair which doesn't make sense plus I have learnt to live with the defects staring at me all the time haha... I am eyeing on the Z Flip 4 though, for a proper battery life...
flex screen I think it s superior to ultra fagile glass also inner screen is always protected, I dropped my fold so many times at this point a traditional slab will be unusable but fold still the same some minor scratches outside. Battery should be better but that can be improve every generation, still better than carry table + phone and two chargers
Foldable phones will eventually take over the Hershey bar style. As millennials get older, they will want a bigger screen in order for their bad eyes to be able to read. But they will not want to carry a massive Hershey bar around. This is why foldables will be on the phone of the future.
Because they’re cool. I have a Zflip 3. No issues whatsoever. It’s a great phone. I still use an iPhone 13 pro as my main phone though. Lmao. If apple had a foldable….damn.
after owning the zfold 2 there is no reason whatsoever that could possibly convince me to purchase a non folding phone other than them simply not being for sale anymore. The candybar phone is dead and good riddance. Samsung is lightyears ahead in this,
Samsung fold 5lite. With the find n form factor for 1000 usd. I'm in. However. They need to put the stylus inside and GIVE ME AN SD CARD SLOT!!!! SAMSUNG YOU MAKE SD CARDS. I BUY YOUR SD CARDS. WHY WOULD YOU NOT GIVE US AN SD CARD SLOT FOR OVER 1000 USD.
