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Why Shakespeare Could Never Have Been French 

Tom Scott
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Shakespeare sounds a certain way. Why? And why could it only work in English? • Written with Gretchen McCulloch of Lingthusiasm! Her podcast has an episode about how translators approach texts: lingthusiasm.com/post/6320866...
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Комментарии : 6 тыс.   
@TomScottGo
@TomScottGo 3 года назад
Apologies to French folks; this was tough!
@thomastrain
@thomastrain 3 года назад
wow
@pigeonb3443
@pigeonb3443 3 года назад
1 WEEK AGO? is this glitch only happening to me?
@siddhanthbhattacharyya4206
@siddhanthbhattacharyya4206 3 года назад
ok
@LewieGames
@LewieGames 3 года назад
@@pigeonb3443 unlisted probably
@insomaniac1796
@insomaniac1796 3 года назад
a week ago?
@joey7979
@joey7979 3 года назад
Swans are never surprisingly aggressive, they are always as aggressive as expected
@ec2552
@ec2552 3 года назад
its tom’s weakness
@brandonkey181
@brandonkey181 3 года назад
Ok then i will lower my expectations for their aggression
@locust76
@locust76 3 года назад
Swandalf the Gray, is that you?
@tornadotaylor8956
@tornadotaylor8956 3 года назад
Then they must be extremely aggressive
@celebrim1
@celebrim1 3 года назад
@Spatza You must be fun at parties.
@gpk6458
@gpk6458 3 года назад
Tom: There will be jump cuts. Also Tom: Single take, no jump cuts.
@teddyboragina6437
@teddyboragina6437 3 года назад
if there was a jumpcut, I missed it
@David_Box
@David_Box 3 года назад
*"One take!"*
@xchronox0
@xchronox0 3 года назад
I noticed one, but that's it.
@AgentWaltonSimons
@AgentWaltonSimons 3 года назад
@@xchronox0 Where, I've watched through a couple of times, and can't spot it!
@Zephirus10
@Zephirus10 3 года назад
I was watching the swans carefully for jumps... And attacks. Can never be too careful.
@profcalcium
@profcalcium Год назад
IMO the most important reason why Shakespeare could never have been French is because he was born in Stratford-upon-Avon, England
@vittoriobr_6271
@vittoriobr_6271 Месяц назад
Lmao
@xelisa99
@xelisa99 7 дней назад
As French people say “Bien vu Sherlock”
@capbarker
@capbarker 2 года назад
I'm fluent in English and French and you've blown my mind. I'm well aware of lexical stress in English but it never crossed my mind about how it doesn't exist in French
@hansvandermeulen5515
@hansvandermeulen5515 2 года назад
Great Britain was ruled by francophones for several centuries, starting with William the Conqueror.
@JaKingScomez
@JaKingScomez 2 года назад
@@hansvandermeulen5515 show me proof of each ruler through the generations ruling the entirety of great britian without losing it during those unnamed centuries you are talking about
@georgeiii2998
@georgeiii2998 Год назад
@Viva Espana What?
@etaashmathamsetty7399
@etaashmathamsetty7399 Год назад
same, but im not good at french
@MuyBienFelipe
@MuyBienFelipe Год назад
@@JaKingScomez They literally slapped it as they royal motto.
@mrrandom1265
@mrrandom1265 3 года назад
In an alternate universe: *Why Chèquespire Could Never Have Been English*
@tom.walder
@tom.walder 3 года назад
Chêquespirrghe
@CrimsonPhantom88
@CrimsonPhantom88 3 года назад
莎士比亚
@ines3511
@ines3511 3 года назад
pourquoi chaiquespire n'aurait pas pu être Anglais
@mrrandom1265
@mrrandom1265 3 года назад
@@tom.walder there's no "gh" in French 😉
@paulp8028
@paulp8028 3 года назад
Pourquoi Chexpire n'aurait jamais pu être anglais
@OkamioftheRinnegan
@OkamioftheRinnegan 3 года назад
Alternate title: How Shakespeare ensured the French could never fully appreciate his plays
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 3 года назад
Romeo and Juliet was still funny
@codekillerz5392
@codekillerz5392 3 года назад
Is that what I think it is? I suck at recognizing rhythm.
@baranxlr
@baranxlr 3 года назад
My hero O7
@amytg777
@amytg777 3 года назад
Truly the patron saint of Brits everywhere.
@amytg777
@amytg777 3 года назад
@@codekillerz5392 What do you think it is? I’m trying to understand the joke but iambic pentameter doesn’t seem to fit and my recall when it comes to less famous rhythm is... dodgy, as Mr. Scott might say.
@RJP-Gaming
@RJP-Gaming 2 года назад
As an English speaker, this video made me realize that Haiku can pack infinitely more meaning in Japanese than English ever can.
@ALittleMessi
@ALittleMessi 2 года назад
English Haiku kind of sucks in my opinion, and that's probably why
@rin_etoware_2989
@rin_etoware_2989 Год назад
@@ALittleMessi a lot of it sucks because people keep thinking that you only need the 5-7-5 syllable structure to count as a haiku.
@NoddyTron
@NoddyTron Год назад
I disagree, I'd say English can pack just as much in - BUT Japanese prizes economy above all, so the Haiku form itself makes more sense as a poetic challenge in Japanese.
@velandiapatinojuliandavid1140
Weeb
@IoriTatsuguchi
@IoriTatsuguchi Год назад
Would you care to explain why you think so?
@anicola2
@anicola2 2 года назад
It took me years to realize how fundamentally different a perception of sound English speakers have, compared to us native French speaker. I had the impression that I was perfectly pronouncing English words (I wasn't, but honestly it wasn't that bad), and to my English-speaking colleagues I might as well have been speaking Mandarin. Meanwhile, they would mumble something and because they just pronounced right the stressed syllable, a Welshman, an American, an Australian and a Scotswoman would have no trouble whatsoever understanding each other. The other eye opener was when I realized that beyond the obvious complexity of prononciation as taught to us at school was another layer and that there were much more subtle nuances of sounds - which natives were very much aware of.
@kerriwilson7732
@kerriwilson7732 2 года назад
Be that as it may, as an English speaking Canadian I am enormously impressed by fluently bilingual francophones. I do not have the gift of learning languages.
@509Gman
@509Gman 2 года назад
“a Welshman, an American, an Australian, and a Scotswoman would have no trouble whatsoever understanding each other” Well yes, but actually no.
@anicola2
@anicola2 2 года назад
@@509Gman Scratch "no trouble whatsoever", replace with "much less trouble" ^^
@weirdlanguageguy
@weirdlanguageguy 2 года назад
@@kerriwilson7732 I would say it's less that you dont have a gift and more that you dont have the proper springboards. The reason why there are so many bilingual Europeans is not because they are so much better at learning languages or because English is so easy to learn, but because most non-English speakers will have to learn out of necessity. In the days when French was the global language, all educated English speakers would have spoken French.
@TheForeverRanger
@TheForeverRanger 2 года назад
@@weirdlanguageguy If Zamehof had his way with it, we would all be speaking Esperanto.
@VinceGuido
@VinceGuido 3 года назад
“Stress isn’t normally something you have to consider when writing” A million stressed writers disagree
@nimeshajayatunge4007
@nimeshajayatunge4007 3 года назад
"but this does put a smile on my face"
@eccentricOrange
@eccentricOrange 3 года назад
What about non-writers? It's a lot of stress for us STEM people!!
@spacecoyote6646
@spacecoyote6646 3 года назад
Unless you have already spent the advance and still have writer's block
@claudelister8149
@claudelister8149 2 года назад
@@eccentricOrange that's,,completely unrelated? The joke was taking "stress" and "writing" and twisting it to "stressed writers"? Sure, it must be hard being academic, but it's also hard being a creative who everyone belittles because art is seen as less than STEM.
@musewolfman
@musewolfman 2 года назад
@@claudelister8149 and that's why STEAM is better than STEM.
@gayflower900
@gayflower900 3 года назад
“Surprisingly aggressive swans” Also known as swans
@simonmultiverse6349
@simonmultiverse6349 2 года назад
Now there was a young Scot called McNameter With a tool of prodigious diameter 'Twas not merely the size Which occasioned surprise, But the rhythm: iambic pentameter
@freakoftheweek5470
@freakoftheweek5470 2 года назад
@@simonmultiverse6349 😳🙈❤️‍🔥
@simonmultiverse6349
@simonmultiverse6349 2 года назад
@@freakoftheweek5470 Said a poet from Uzbekistan: Oh, my limericks never will scan! They are fine in their way But they all go astray When I try to put as many words into the last line as I possibly can.
@seanjohnisee
@seanjohnisee 2 года назад
@@simonmultiverse6349 COME BACK WE NEED MORE
@ieatbananaswiththepeel4782
@ieatbananaswiththepeel4782 2 года назад
@@simonmultiverse6349 PLEASE
@ChainBukorosu
@ChainBukorosu 2 года назад
You made me understand why, as a native french speaker, I find english poetry so eerie yet so pleasant. Thank you !
@SmokingLaddy
@SmokingLaddy 10 месяцев назад
The water in Majorca don't taste like what it ought to
@hithisisme6332
@hithisisme6332 2 года назад
As a German, it never occurred to me that there are languages without lexical stress, despite me knowing French and Spanish. You really learn something new every day! Thank you!
@ALittleMessi
@ALittleMessi 2 года назад
I guess that's the difference between knowing a language and being native in it. Apart from accents, they could probably tell that you're not a native French or Spanish
@gabrielesalera7088
@gabrielesalera7088 Год назад
to be fair Spanish should have lexical stress. I mean, Italian does have it so I suppose ot should be the same for Spanish
@mariaah3073
@mariaah3073 Год назад
@@gabrielesalera7088 I believe it does, it definitely has those words that change meaning when you change the stressed syllable. Same with Portuguese as well.
@claracuenca9221
@claracuenca9221 Год назад
spanish does have lexical stress. In fact, it is shown in the words itself (á,é,í,ó,ú)
@alphapolimeris
@alphapolimeris 3 года назад
Me as a French : "I can't stress enough." -: "You can't stress what ?" -:" ..... I just can't."
@m_uz1244
@m_uz1244 3 года назад
"a French"? tf
@Gaellka
@Gaellka 3 года назад
a french ...
@Emperorerror
@Emperorerror 3 года назад
@@m_uz1244 It's an extremely common mistake by non-native speakers of English. In most languages, you can say "a French." English is weird in that you can do that with some demonyms but not others. You can say, "an American," "a Mexican," "an Italian." You can't say "a British," "a Japanese," "a Swedish," or, in this case, "a French." I'm not 100% sure what the rule is, but it seems to be at its very basic that you can only do it with ones that end with "an." "A German" does sound kind of weird, though, so I guess there are exceptions. What you can always do, in English, however, is say, "a French person" or "a Japanese person." You could even say, "an American person," but that does sound a bit weird. Less weird, though, than "a French."
@bunnyben5607
@bunnyben5607 3 года назад
This joke works on so many levels
@TheSpacecraftX
@TheSpacecraftX 3 года назад
@@m_uz1244 Wouldn't be the internet without somebody complaining about a non native English speaker not getting the nuances of their second language quite perfect.
@RuzGaming
@RuzGaming 3 года назад
You know it's cold when Tom is wearing more than a t-shirt.
@nix3l_
@nix3l_ 3 года назад
More than a red t-shirt
@Uns0uled01
@Uns0uled01 3 года назад
r/technicallythetruth
@Someonewithaspace
@Someonewithaspace 3 года назад
you know its not cold when tom is wearing a t-shirt
@Haunted1919
@Haunted1919 3 года назад
@Spatza pal are you okay?
@christianhoej1562
@christianhoej1562 3 года назад
@Spatza huh a youtube bot go figure
@extrawhy
@extrawhy 2 года назад
1:17 As a learner of English as second language. I am amazed by my trained ears that they sound to me so different. I didn't expect my ears to be that trained.
@ludovicmichel5275
@ludovicmichel5275 2 года назад
J'adore entendre un Anglais parler de la langue française, ça me fait remarquer toutes nos bizarreries linguistiques .
@byronwilliams7977
@byronwilliams7977 Год назад
I'd say its mostly the prosodic differences between the languages. Je dirais que c'est largement a cause des differences prosodiques entre les langues.
@riioze8952
@riioze8952 11 дней назад
Jsp pk dans ma tête je l'ai lu avec un accent anglais
@Armistice023
@Armistice023 3 года назад
“There’re going to be jump cuts” Me: doesn’t see any jump cuts Nice flex, Tom
@lonestarr1490
@lonestarr1490 3 года назад
One of the best presenters on RU-vid.
@MishKoz
@MishKoz 3 года назад
@UC5U_P1nHWh2PSNZQ_TL7pDg How
@reversepsychology3
@reversepsychology3 3 года назад
: awesome :
@reversepsychology3
@reversepsychology3 3 года назад
It is a RU-vid emoji
@reversepsychology3
@reversepsychology3 3 года назад
Type that without spaces
@LeElister64
@LeElister64 3 года назад
As a French who had to learn English on the fly, I can confirm that the stress is everywhere.
@privatkanal6572
@privatkanal6572 3 года назад
this comment is a MOOD xD
@gutiwalravens
@gutiwalravens 3 года назад
l'anglais est stressant je suis d'accord avec toi ;)
@dooplon5083
@dooplon5083 3 года назад
Sounds like it was quite distressing
@leophyte9663
@leophyte9663 3 года назад
*badam tsuu*
@bazza945
@bazza945 3 года назад
That happens because our British friends delight in stressing over EVERYTHING.
@alxh3727
@alxh3727 2 года назад
I'm French and I had never heard someone sounding so French while speaking normal English
@VasiliyOgniov
@VasiliyOgniov Год назад
As a native Russian speaker I find it funny that our poetry is also syllabo-tonic, just like English or German so it's easier to translate those languages properly but our authors mostly translated French poems, because it was much more culturally significant back in XVIII-XIX centuries
@AlchemistOfNirnroot
@AlchemistOfNirnroot 7 месяцев назад
Why are you using Roman numerals?
@tpuddin
@tpuddin 7 месяцев назад
​@@AlchemistOfNirnrootbecause that's how you count centuries
@AlchemistOfNirnroot
@AlchemistOfNirnroot 7 месяцев назад
@@tpuddin most people just say 18th-19th century
@tiringsarcasm
@tiringsarcasm 7 месяцев назад
@@AlchemistOfNirnrootit just looks cooler
@unepintade
@unepintade 22 дня назад
​@@AlchemistOfNirnrootroman numerals are the norm for centuries in most european languages bar English
@VanGruuv
@VanGruuv 3 года назад
"Stress isn't normally something you have to consider too much while writing" You should see me write a paper for uni...
@zralokvemigraci
@zralokvemigraci 3 года назад
Ahahhahaha that’s too true 😭👏👏
@doom4627
@doom4627 3 года назад
Normally there are exceptions
@eiriks680
@eiriks680 3 года назад
Comment of the year
@alexanderstelmach9005
@alexanderstelmach9005 3 года назад
Took a gallon of brandy to get me through the last term XD
@mutd789hgmlkrt7
@mutd789hgmlkrt7 3 года назад
LMAO
@canonicallykayfabe
@canonicallykayfabe 3 года назад
Can I just say, as someone who requires subtitles: these subtitles are so easy to understand, and whoever made them deserves a raise
@crassinula
@crassinula 3 года назад
@Spatza dude. Chill
@ILOVEYOUTUBE12722
@ILOVEYOUTUBE12722 3 года назад
@Spatza k
@theblinkingbrownie4654
@theblinkingbrownie4654 3 года назад
@UC0Kw1wDuYR3mIJARn1HCUPw ok but this doesn't the fact that no one asked, you are just annoying people, if you think you're changing people's minds then you are just wrong and that's just facts. People like you give atheists a bad name, buddy.
@canonicallykayfabe
@canonicallykayfabe 3 года назад
@@Spanky2k what
@HelenavV_
@HelenavV_ 3 года назад
Exactly!
@baguetteDuGame
@baguetteDuGame 2 года назад
As a french, it made me understand stuff about my own language. Very interesting. I think also this lack of lexical stress made our poets more creative in the content and less in musicality. I don't know how i ended up watching this though.
@calliarcale
@calliarcale Год назад
French poetry is still very musical; it just depends less on inherent rhythm. Meter is still present, though. One of the most challenging poetic forms, the villanelle, comes from France, and it's very musical and highly structured despite the absence of lexical stress.
@markhathaway9456
@markhathaway9456 Год назад
J'apprends français et il y a plusieurs de Français qui me disent ça. Cependant j'ai appris très peu de anglais, ma langue natale.
@zarrouguilucas2585
@zarrouguilucas2585 2 года назад
French native here, been practicing English every day for a very long time. I know a ton of vocabulary, grammar, rules etc... But the one thing that I can't seem to get a grip on is THAT. The lexical stress. The different ways you pronounced "Washington" made absolutely no difference for me. I'd love to master that aspect of the English language one day. Great video btw, as always, thank you Tom :)
@vindolanda6974
@vindolanda6974 Год назад
The 'Washingtons' were pronounced very similar to each other, as a native English speaker the difference was hard to pick up.
@whitekyurem4565
@whitekyurem4565 8 месяцев назад
​@@vindolanda6974yeah I don't think he really changed the stressed syllable properly - too used to the usual pronunciation that his brain told him to keep it more or less the same.
@SwitchAndLever
@SwitchAndLever 3 года назад
This will be full of jump cuts. Not a single jump cut. Bravo!
@orochiv324
@orochiv324 3 года назад
Ok verified person
@real_dddf
@real_dddf 3 года назад
or should we say, bravo editor?
@junkokonno
@junkokonno 3 года назад
hi checkmark
@essentialatom
@essentialatom 3 года назад
Predictable
@flymypg
@flymypg 3 года назад
Hmmm. It would have needed a jump-cut to get rid of the warning about jump-cuts. No way to win.
@bobiboulon
@bobiboulon 3 года назад
Me, a Frenchman trying to test what's demonstrated here: Suddenly, brain can no longer think in French.
@zombie_pigdragon
@zombie_pigdragon 3 года назад
I learned recently that this is called the "centipede's dilemma," which is cool that it has a name.
@bobiboulon
@bobiboulon 3 года назад
@@zombie_pigdragon Oh, I didn't know! I'll look for some popularization video about it. ;)
@aztec0112
@aztec0112 3 года назад
@@zombie_pigdragon :OMG, this reminds me of my brilliant, but a wee bit touched son! Thanks for the insight!!
@targard.quantumfrack6854
@targard.quantumfrack6854 3 года назад
@HDStudios Il est Belge.
@blackmber
@blackmber 3 года назад
J'irai par la forêt, j'irai par la montagne. Je ne puis demeurer loin de toi plus longtemps. am I helping
@p2beauchene
@p2beauchene 2 года назад
Well said and extremely well laid out. I never thought of studying poetry rythm. As a native french speaker I have been conscious of my lack of sensitivity for stressing for a long time. Yet that is something even tens of thousands of hours of viewing and listening to english material couldn't teach me, however badly I wished it. The only way to learn is to mingle among natural english speakers, and slowly adjust your skills according to their reactions (or lack thereof). Or have a close relationship with one natural english speaker, and ask them to correct you when they feel you could do better. Since I can do neither right now, I shall listen to Shakespeare poetry and at last discover its wonders.
@dontreadthispleaseibegyou
@dontreadthispleaseibegyou 2 года назад
You are a legend. Not for researching this and writing this brilliant script, but for narrating this whole thing in a single shot. Wow
@explolsivecake2045
@explolsivecake2045 3 года назад
Me scrolling through yt at midnight: *sure, let’s find out why Shakespeare isn’t french*
@buttyobject575
@buttyobject575 3 года назад
Ahah always like that
@SavageJarJar
@SavageJarJar 3 года назад
let’s?
@lilybigwilly
@lilybigwilly 3 года назад
@@SavageJarJar let us??
@beinzheans3918
@beinzheans3918 2 года назад
@@lilybigwilly no it means "let's've'd" iodot smh
@DDM506
@DDM506 2 года назад
For me 1am
@dkpsyhog
@dkpsyhog 3 года назад
“Some surprisingly aggressive swans” the words of someone who has never interacted with a swan before
@chrisbanbury
@chrisbanbury 3 года назад
Nice limerick ;)
@igualnimp
@igualnimp 3 года назад
Why would you want to interact with them?
@mjp121
@mjp121 3 года назад
Also the word of swan handlers. One can never be prepared for how aggressive swans are.
@silviasanchez648
@silviasanchez648 3 года назад
@@igualnimp Because they're there?
@AlphaChinoz
@AlphaChinoz 3 года назад
@@igualnimp aggressive swans will interact with you, whether you want to or not...
@GeddesHD
@GeddesHD 2 года назад
Tom Scott: Why Shakespeare Could Never Have Been French Me: Because Shakespeares parents never went to France
@nat040496
@nat040496 2 года назад
I love how Tom can take something i have zero interest in and make it interesting to the point im completely engrossed in the video
@oogrooq
@oogrooq 3 года назад
There once was a Scott named McAmeter With a tool of prodigious diameter 'Twas not his size That caused such suprise 'Twas his rhythm - iambic pentameter
@IsmaelEscobedo
@IsmaelEscobedo 3 года назад
for some reason i read this in a french accent
@willburchett4667
@willburchett4667 3 года назад
I’m too tired to know what this means, but it sounds cool
@Enlightentite
@Enlightentite 3 года назад
Naughty.
@alexanderfroebelzehl3825
@alexanderfroebelzehl3825 3 года назад
Nice
@dariusanderton3760
@dariusanderton3760 3 года назад
the words of a learned pervert
@cheezemonkeyeater
@cheezemonkeyeater 3 года назад
"Surprisingly aggressive swans." Only surprising if you don't know swans.
@mikeprice25
@mikeprice25 3 года назад
Maybe they were passively aggressive, which would be quite surprising.
@Vespuchian
@Vespuchian 3 года назад
Swans: Geese, but after the level up.
@hannibalburgers477
@hannibalburgers477 3 года назад
A N G E R Y
@IONATVS
@IONATVS 3 года назад
As TierZoo would put it, Swans have as good an intimate skill as geese, but actually have the stats to back it up and MESS YOU UP.
@iannoble8626
@iannoble8626 3 года назад
And particularly if you don't know the Stratford swans
@poliorcetix979
@poliorcetix979 2 года назад
Osez l'alexandrin: douze pieds, rime riche, pause au mitan du vers, césure à l'hémistiche (De cape et de Crocs, Acte VIII) "Dare the alexandrin, twelve feet, rich rhymes, Stop in the middle, cut in the half" Definition of alexandrin in alexandrin said by a fierce fighter in dual with a Spanish wolf in a French comic. Deserves to be read ;) Thanks for the video, I never understood before why English poetry sounds so good without rhymes :)
@roderickwheatley9946
@roderickwheatley9946 2 года назад
Lovely explanation! I did an English degree at a French university and this concept was one of the hardest things for French-speaking students to grasp.
@L3X1N
@L3X1N 3 года назад
1:32 "Stress isn't something you have to consider too much while writing," Tom Scott forgot all about school, huh.
@blueberry1c2
@blueberry1c2 3 года назад
Solid mechanics homework: "depict a typical stress element" Me: (draws myself)
@jackielinde7568
@jackielinde7568 3 года назад
Sad there were no shots of aggressive swans chasing Tom. 10/10 would watch again.
@Gebieter
@Gebieter 3 года назад
I expected to see this kind of outtakes at the end as well. I am disappointed.
@rolandet
@rolandet 3 года назад
😁👍
@LewisRawlinson30
@LewisRawlinson30 3 года назад
Just the one swan actually.
@CWSmith
@CWSmith 2 года назад
You've never truly experienced Shakespeare, until you've seen it performed in the original Klingon. Thank you for your videos, Tom. I almost always learn something new from them. Keep on rockin' !!
@nafyne
@nafyne 2 года назад
Living in Ontario close to Quebec, I never realized the stress on the last syllable of French words… when I tried it I realized it was no different from how I speak french normally!! even before knowing that though just growing up around Québécois speaking people made me naturally accustomed to that
@izabelacieniuch3664
@izabelacieniuch3664 3 года назад
As a non-native English speaker, I have never heard how Shakespeare sounds in English and my mind is actually blown rn
@michas7993
@michas7993 3 года назад
I had a slightly different impression. This rhythm was strangely familiar to me as if I heard it somewhere before as a kid watching various english movies and it took me a while to realize that Edgar A. Poe's or Yeats poetry sound exactly the same as it's also written in iambic pentameter.
@stttrm
@stttrm 2 года назад
Never liked Shakespeare and never read him in english, but had to read some in highschool and i can say that russian translations sound very similar to the original. At least in terms of rhythm. Or maybe i just remember it too bad. I said i don't like his poetry
@SobiTheRobot
@SobiTheRobot 2 года назад
@@stttrm Shakespeare is better watched or performed than read.
@nyctotheory
@nyctotheory 2 года назад
@@stttrm Reading it is bland, and often difficult to parse. But watch it played out by very skilled actors, and suddenly there's a lot of life and drama and/or humor there.
@TheImmortalSorrow
@TheImmortalSorrow 2 года назад
@@stttrm watch The Hollow Crown
@scrubware
@scrubware 3 года назад
"Stress isn't normally something you have to consider while writing," Students:
@toamastar
@toamastar 3 года назад
I was thinking that too!! haha
@albertjackinson
@albertjackinson 3 года назад
I'm not stressed while writing... Except when I have times essays. Those absolutely suck. Why do they exist?! What's the point?!
@iabervon
@iabervon 3 года назад
Normally, stress is something you have to *not* consider while writing because oh god is it 4:10 already I need to turn in my paper at 5 and I don't have a conclusion or half my pages and it's terrible doesn't make a good essay.
@KingNBubby
@KingNBubby 2 года назад
“I’m being pestered by some surprisingly aggressive swans” Top 10 quotes I never knew I needed
@philevans6010
@philevans6010 2 года назад
Tom would make an amazing teacher, in virtually any subject. I'd be captivated, as I am with all his videos.
@daveh7720
@daveh7720 3 года назад
"... some surprisingly aggressive swans." There's nothing surprising about aggressive swans. They're foul-tempered killers.
@paxgallery6646
@paxgallery6646 3 года назад
*fowl-tempered
@Tigerdragon2
@Tigerdragon2 3 года назад
Maybe these swans were more aggressive than regular swans (whose standard level of aggression is 'attack')?
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb 3 года назад
Who do they kill? Apart from fish, that is.
@Ramog1000
@Ramog1000 3 года назад
@@Tigerdragon2 you mean their level of agression was 'nuke that pesky human!'?
@daveh7720
@daveh7720 3 года назад
@@ThreadBomb People. A guy in a city near me was attacked and drowned in a pond by a pair of swans.
@AtomicShrimp
@AtomicShrimp 3 года назад
Of course you have not really experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon
@martinebonita2658
@martinebonita2658 3 года назад
Oo ello. You had me wading into a pond to collect water this past quarantine
@dumbbellenjoyer
@dumbbellenjoyer 3 года назад
Make more Fray Bentos please
@kjamison5951
@kjamison5951 3 года назад
Qa’pla! King, Son of Lear. Glory be to his house! Two Ferengis of Veridian 3. Martok and Juliet. And Glory be to your house!
@GreRe9
@GreRe9 3 года назад
+
@TheSenator007
@TheSenator007 3 года назад
What if Shakespeare responded to scam e-mails? Imagine the typical scam where the story is that a rich guy died in a plane crash with no next of kin listed and the scammer gets the response "Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio, a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy."
@LeRainbow
@LeRainbow 2 года назад
You‘re such a gift to the internet. Thank you Tom I really enjoyed this one!
@mikeychrisanthus9948
@mikeychrisanthus9948 2 года назад
I know this is 7 months old, but this has been probably my favourite little RU-vid series in quite some time; I finished them all within a few days. Great work on this Tom.
@benjo_5
@benjo_5 3 года назад
This is also explains why French witches and wizards couldn't cast decent levitation spells if their lives depended on it
@HaloInverse
@HaloInverse 3 года назад
"Wingardium LeviosAAAAAA".
@ErikNilsen1337
@ErikNilsen1337 3 года назад
Stop it, Ron.
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 3 года назад
The folk at Beauxbatons could not compare.
@dodgeman777
@dodgeman777 3 года назад
Makes me wonder how they translated that scene into French
@Cortex403
@Cortex403 3 года назад
The fact that, thanks to French bureaucracy, each spell must be accompanied by a form 3045-B duly signed really doesn't help...
@OmqSparklez
@OmqSparklez 3 года назад
Can I just say, massive appreciation for not only the fact that you're so adamant about having accurate and high quality captions, but also for how much you acknowledge the importance of captions encompassing more than the literal words spoken in a video. This video wouldn't work with the lazy way a majority of creators, and even proper television programs, caption their content, and many videos don't. Never disappointed by these. This channel is really a little spot of content where I never feel out of place or like I'm just an uncomfortable visitor in a hearing world.
@ShaunRuigrok
@ShaunRuigrok 3 года назад
Tom and also Alec from Technology Connections do a fantastic job with captions
@NightGlyde
@NightGlyde 3 года назад
...just gonna rewatch the video with captions because I gotta experience this for myself. Tom is great!
@strehlow
@strehlow 3 года назад
@@NightGlyde I just did the same thing.
@applehack97
@applehack97 3 года назад
3kliksphilip does it as well
@TheLukasDirector
@TheLukasDirector 3 года назад
What's it like to watch a video about phonetics as a deaf person anyway? Do you understand the pronounciation stuff? Just very curious.
@niekstellingwerf5188
@niekstellingwerf5188 2 года назад
This was soooo well preformed. Great job
@hexaV_
@hexaV_ 2 года назад
1:05 ah I see you've mastered Boris Johnson speech
@HedeccaTamer
@HedeccaTamer 3 года назад
"The feeling and sound of a limerick, relies on the lexical stress" Very correct, my utmost respect But I wish you were wearing a dress
@witherblaze
@witherblaze 2 года назад
Limerick doesn't rhyme with stress nor dress
@RainCarr06
@RainCarr06 2 года назад
@@witherblaze they gave it a good shot though, I say well done
@NetRolller3D
@NetRolller3D 2 года назад
@@witherblaze it's a limemorty
@Ken_neThT
@Ken_neThT 2 года назад
@@witherblaze limerick rhymes with lexical because of the Ls, relies and stress rhyme because of the Ss
@RegularTetragon
@RegularTetragon 2 года назад
Femboy Tom Scott
@Lleldorellin
@Lleldorellin 3 года назад
As a french person, I can confirm that every exemple of limerick that Tom gave that was supposed to "not sound right" sounded perfectly right to me...
@pierre1080p
@pierre1080p 3 года назад
Same !
@lawrencesmeaton6930
@lawrencesmeaton6930 3 года назад
They sound extremely jarring and 'wrong' to my scottish ears. What a funny world.
@targard.quantumfrack6854
@targard.quantumfrack6854 3 года назад
@@lawrencesmeaton6930 I'm french (Breton actually) and recently watched the 3 Stargate shows. In SG Atlantis, there is Dr. Carson Beckett, a Scottish. I loved his strong accent but oh boy I had difficulties to understand sometime. I'll pay you Scotts a visit please save me some haggis and don't take offense if I ask you to repeat ;).
@randlog
@randlog 3 года назад
I even had to search what exactly is a limerick...
@MonkeyDAmy
@MonkeyDAmy 3 года назад
@@targard.quantumfrack6854 whooop Bretagne ! I watched all 5 seasons of Outlander and their Scottish accent was music to my ears. I absolutely love it. 🥰🙌🏽
@ncsmith1952
@ncsmith1952 2 года назад
The rhythm of your explanation was great!
@WilburJaywright
@WilburJaywright 2 года назад
Near the end of the episode, I was looking at the way you emphasize things. It’s amazing how relevant that is to style.
@lususnaturae3082
@lususnaturae3082 3 года назад
As a French person, I must say understanding and using lexical stress had to be one of the most difficult things to learn. Even now I will still forget to stress the words correctly if I don't pay attention.
@haeilsey
@haeilsey 3 года назад
difficult to learn and to unlearn, the pain goes both ways. hard to keep up with spoken French when I'm subconsciously expecting the stress and pauses that aren't present
@PapaSMURFFS
@PapaSMURFFS 3 года назад
Absolutely! I've always had problems and couldn't figure out why, this video completely enlightened me to why I have trouble parsing naturally spoken French compared with individual words, or written French. Like, I wish a French teacher years ago had been able to articulate this to me!
@klop4228
@klop4228 3 года назад
It goes the other way too. The number of English-speakers I've heard who can't say French words and names because they put the stress in the wrong place is frustrating to me - and I'm not even French!
@lukmly013
@lukmly013 3 года назад
Welp, I didn't even know this existed.
@romainsavioz5466
@romainsavioz5466 3 года назад
Or the th sound
@maxmcclelland1119
@maxmcclelland1119 2 года назад
I like how the parts explaining different poetry forms are (mostly) written in those forms.
@xXjules13Xx
@xXjules13Xx 2 года назад
When you said “the lexical stress has to land on the beat” i laughed a little bc the lexical stress of that sentence lined up perfectly
@joy7367
@joy7367 3 года назад
3:55 "but in geneRAL, French stress SITS, at the end of the utteRANCE." as a native french speaker it's funny how you suddenly sounded like French poetry
@AntonLFG
@AntonLFG 2 года назад
Now that I imagine French accents in my head this makes complete sense.
@KrymsonScale
@KrymsonScale 2 года назад
@@AntonLFG It really does tbh
@meilline3616
@meilline3616 2 года назад
Me, a native french speaker : Oh so that's why it's hard to speak English without sounding french !
@iblame_nargles
@iblame_nargles 2 года назад
@@meilline3616 It's really obvious now that it's been pointed out! As a native English speaker, I think prefer it. Sounds nicer imho
@froggod6484
@froggod6484 2 года назад
3:50
@hanneselsen5282
@hanneselsen5282 3 года назад
Your script is just sooo amazingly well-written. "The lexical stress has to land on the beat" is a nice little Limerick, and "So why does Shakespeare sound like Shakespeare" is iambic in itself, right before you introduce the word "iambic". This is just too good. Great work!
@bobbymoretti
@bobbymoretti 3 года назад
"Two words that make a fancy way to say" "Stress every other syllable, in pairs" "With five such pairs in every line you write" all in iambic pentameter.
@joeybeauvais-feisthauer3137
@joeybeauvais-feisthauer3137 3 года назад
Also the alexandrine explanation was in alexandrine: "Twelve syllables per line, broken into two parts; and it should also rhyme, stress the end of each half."
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 3 года назад
The best poems are the subtle ones like this.
@catlinstark6557
@catlinstark6557 2 года назад
This was really cool! I had to write limericks and Shakespearean poems in iambic pentameter in high school and it was quite a challenge. I've also had to translate poems for my French classes and they never sound as good!
@znahejebe4063
@znahejebe4063 2 года назад
The teacher that made you translate them is stupid.
@filpaul
@filpaul 2 года назад
Tom: “I’m going to mess this up and have jump cuts.” Also Tom: _bangs it out in one take_
@lucasm.3864
@lucasm.3864 3 года назад
“Surprisingly aggressive swans” So... regular swans?
@nraynaud
@nraynaud 3 года назад
As a Frenchman, my time in the US was very hard because I couldn't put my emphasis in the right places, and people could not understand me.
@zaidabraham7310
@zaidabraham7310 3 года назад
Pardon?
@robn2171
@robn2171 3 года назад
A la... French fry perhaps?
@haeilsey
@haeilsey 3 года назад
I have trouble following along with standard French speech for the same reason! the lack of pauses and regular stress makes speaking come across as too fast. it's a bit easier actually to understand Southern and Swiss dialects because they don't use quite the same stress patterns
@loeftk1030
@loeftk1030 3 года назад
@@haeilsey Never talk to Northern french people then, or you will enter a world of pain and confusion
@evilspoons
@evilspoons 3 года назад
@@haeilsey I'm attempting to learn French (just on an app, picking it up again after having several years in junior high and high school mostly forgotten from 20 years ago). The synthetic voice has exactly this problem for me - it's really damn fast and hard to pick words apart until you know exactly which ones are which!
@disphing
@disphing Год назад
3:19 "stress every other syllable, in pairs with five such pairs in every line you write" the fact that that in itself is iambic pentameter is kinda genius
@disphing
@disphing Год назад
also "and that was shakespeare's style, well usually he didn't stick to that for every line"
@hcrun
@hcrun Год назад
Fascinating! I was an 'A' student in English all through my schooling and haven't even thought about the term 'iambic pentameter' in decades!🙂 Thanks, Tom.
@MaxArceus
@MaxArceus 3 года назад
Tom: "This is not going to be 1 take" The video: *is one take*
@elweewutroone
@elweewutroone 3 года назад
Illuminati confirmed… 😶
@apollo1573
@apollo1573 3 года назад
*sad jump cut noises*
@abbytran8514
@abbytran8514 3 года назад
Or was it??? *x files theme song plays*
@charlie_et_ses_folies
@charlie_et_ses_folies 3 года назад
Hi, as a French person I want to thank you for this. I've studied Shakespeare in English class and in French class, and to be honest, no one was as good as you to explain this concept. So thank you ! Also, you trying to sound French and then speaking as an English person made me realize the difference
@PanAndScanBuddy
@PanAndScanBuddy 3 года назад
Cheers, Charlie
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 3 года назад
As always, Tom can outcompete the pros.
@pokemasterx4244
@pokemasterx4244 3 года назад
How's the baguette?
@Minimax04
@Minimax04 2 года назад
The algorithm did well today. I’m now subscribed to this ridiculously interesting and knowledgeable chap!
@IustinPop
@IustinPop 2 года назад
RU-vid randomly recommended this to me, and oh my, it was the most interesting "random suggestion" it gave me in recent memory. Thanks!
@nwahally
@nwahally 3 года назад
'I'm being pestered occasionally by some surprisingly aggressive swans.' Oh you sweet summer child.
@GameMaster-pz9pw
@GameMaster-pz9pw 3 года назад
@Spatza what do you expect to gain from that comment?
@robbirose7032
@robbirose7032 3 года назад
@Spatza um ok
@kugelblitzingularity304
@kugelblitzingularity304 3 года назад
@@GameMaster-pz9pw perhaps a spam report. And that I can provide
@gab_v250
@gab_v250 3 года назад
coming soon: Untitled Swan Game
@woofyou1186
@woofyou1186 3 года назад
Ignore spatza the spaz
@kormoxkall6687
@kormoxkall6687 3 года назад
"go on location Tom, it'll look fantastic" mate, ya live in England
@jackosullivan6388
@jackosullivan6388 3 года назад
Oi mate I live there it's not as bad it looks lmao
@marcuscross8051
@marcuscross8051 3 года назад
Mate, there's nothing wrong with England.
@photonicpizza1466
@photonicpizza1466 3 года назад
@Spatza O...kay?
@vijay-c
@vijay-c 3 года назад
@@marcuscross8051 Execpt the weather
@poppypenguincataj9407
@poppypenguincataj9407 3 года назад
@/Spatza Ik you’re probably a bot but you spamming these comments is part if the reason people don’t take atheists like myself seriously :/ Other people, don’t reply to this and report it. Replying is what they want
@ditto1958
@ditto1958 Год назад
This was surprisingly interesting. Well done!!
@gwen8982
@gwen8982 2 года назад
Really interesting video! as a french person, i absolutely missed the importance of stress in Shakespeare's writing, and now i want to go back to read his poems
@AFN2750
@AFN2750 3 года назад
“Some surprisingly aggressive swans” is so aggressively British
@klop4228
@klop4228 3 года назад
Surprisingly so, or?
@BigSupremePacHamster
@BigSupremePacHamster 3 года назад
Just the one swan actually
@Haedrian
@Haedrian 3 года назад
Well, they are all owned by the Queen
@pokemasterx4244
@pokemasterx4244 3 года назад
In Stratford they aren't even that aggressive tbh
@Mikey-rn1hb
@Mikey-rn1hb 3 года назад
”Stress isn't something you are normally concerned to much while writing" Me, being extremely stressed due to the deadline of my exam I am currently writing on...😰
@dragondotorg7323
@dragondotorg7323 3 года назад
Really? Only for this one and not the next and the next and the next
@dragondotorg7323
@dragondotorg7323 3 года назад
Just kidding
@hasanmuhammad6651
@hasanmuhammad6651 3 года назад
@Ho Lam YIU it's probably an online exam
@PalKrammer
@PalKrammer 2 года назад
Excellent! As someone who loves languages, words, and different cultures, I found this new and fascinating.
@oli073
@oli073 2 года назад
Tom, mate! What brilliant content.
@raydunakin
@raydunakin 3 года назад
Very interesting, and also your explanation of iambic pentameter was clear and concise.
@Newt.--.Jaeden
@Newt.--.Jaeden 3 года назад
explained Iambic Pentameter better in 2 Minutes than my GCSE English Teacher did in 2 Years
@totaleNonale
@totaleNonale 3 года назад
@@Newt.--.Jaeden seriously, i couldn't have told you what it means before this, bit its so simple
@johnwilliams3555
@johnwilliams3555 3 года назад
Five years of High School where it was mentioned every year and I never got it. Now I do!
@peter6531
@peter6531 3 года назад
sounds like a Grammarly ad 🤭
@ehehhehehehhe
@ehehhehehehhe 3 года назад
I can finally write in iambic pentameter now
@eldrago19
@eldrago19 3 года назад
"It's two degrees above freezing and I'm being being pestered ocationally by surprisingly aggressive swans." Welcome to the great British outdoors.
@bazza945
@bazza945 3 года назад
They are protected by The Queen, and they know it.
@samuelaubrey481
@samuelaubrey481 3 года назад
Until they get pissed on at 2 am by a drunk 18 y/o ;)
@AngryKittens
@AngryKittens 3 года назад
Such savage wilderness.
@killerbug05
@killerbug05 3 года назад
Replace "two degrees above freezing" with "two degrees below 0 f°" and "aggressive swans" with "agressive geese" and you have just described my entire life in one sentence.
@ikbintom
@ikbintom 3 года назад
Being being
@noellenorris2590
@noellenorris2590 2 года назад
This is a comfy and educational video. Thank you ☺️
@reduke
@reduke 2 года назад
Alternate title: Tom Scott rapping for 3 minutes.
@khj5582
@khj5582 3 года назад
Throughout the entire video I kept waiting for him to be attacked by swans.
@xp8969
@xp8969 3 года назад
@Rita - F**UĆК МЕ ! you misspelled xp
@xp8969
@xp8969 3 года назад
And more importantly I told you not to call me here
@nitehawk86
@nitehawk86 3 года назад
Or to have a jump cut. Neither of which happened.
@joshuan.
@joshuan. 3 года назад
Same
@JemaKnight
@JemaKnight 3 года назад
"surprisingly aggressive swans" Either you've never come into contact with a swan before, or they're literally trying to kill you.
@usernametaken017
@usernametaken017 2 года назад
"either you've never come in contact with swans before, or they're behaving normaly" ftfy
@jiraiyaofmountmyouboku1945
@jiraiyaofmountmyouboku1945 2 года назад
My was nearly killed by one
@eyelessghosttv9203
@eyelessghosttv9203 2 года назад
I wish we had something like this in School. Just your short Video with surface information about english poetry rly made me to learn more about this topic.
@user-ov1mn8zg3e
@user-ov1mn8zg3e Год назад
this is actually taught me some stuff i can use for rapping. love it!
@JonHaugaard
@JonHaugaard 3 года назад
As someone who is a middle-school ESL-teacher who also teaches a French student English on the side, this was incredibly helpful. A lot of her pronunciations makes so much more sense to me now. Thank you, Tom.
@amjan
@amjan 3 года назад
You better Google: stress timed and syllable timed languages.
@Jlipper
@Jlipper 3 года назад
Swans are like: “Holy heck, is that Tom Scott?” “Let’s go and ask for his autograph!” Tom: “I’m being pestered by some annoying Swans.”
@andymac4883
@andymac4883 3 года назад
Swans: :c
@maighstir3003
@maighstir3003 3 года назад
Swooning swans? Swans swoon? Swan swoons? That last one sounds better, but there are multiple swans... Hmm...
@hasanmuhammad6651
@hasanmuhammad6651 3 года назад
(ಥ_ಥ)
@faizfrez2729
@faizfrez2729 3 года назад
They might even be real people but Tom didn't want to upset us
@benepic3101
@benepic3101 3 года назад
Swans is two letters away from fans
@lo_d_rocket-1212
@lo_d_rocket-1212 2 года назад
this actually really helps my drama homework thanks tom
@darthplagueis13
@darthplagueis13 Год назад
Interesting. The term alexandrine(r) is also used in german, a language that has lexical stress, but funnily enough it refers to a iambic type of poetry where you have six stressed syllables, with every second syllable being stressed.
@TheRaymanFan
@TheRaymanFan 3 года назад
"im being pestered by some surprisingly aggressive swans" *swans approaching menacingly in the background*
@MordecaiVertecimes
@MordecaiVertecimes 3 года назад
@Morshu Morichika ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ SWAN ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ
@TheRaymanFan
@TheRaymanFan 3 года назад
@Morshu Morichika
@sanapadsense7134
@sanapadsense7134 3 года назад
Me as a simple Frenchman : English are too stressed, they have to learn to relax.
@graemetang4173
@graemetang4173 2 года назад
english are too STRESSED, they 'ave to learn to reLAX
@Suite_annamite
@Suite_annamite 2 года назад
@@graemetang4173 engLISH (h')ar tout STRESSED, zey 'AV to LEARN 'ow to be reLAXED.
@10gamer64
@10gamer64 2 года назад
Hey at least it isn't Russian
@citizenstranger
@citizenstranger 2 года назад
my boss is french and shes the least relaxed person i know, so...
@travisscottburger9206
@travisscottburger9206 2 года назад
great stuff, Tom!
@tenlongfingers70
@tenlongfingers70 2 года назад
I have never understood iambic pentameter until you put it visually like that, that was so helpful
@MoonSt0n3
@MoonSt0n3 3 года назад
As a french person, this makes sense. The same way, you couldn't translate Baudelaire into english! Culture always has limits set by language
@Thomas...191
@Thomas...191 3 года назад
It makes me want to learn languages just to read some more classics in their native tongue.. read some Madame Bovary perhaps.. or better still learn Russian! But alas I'm an incurable monolingual moose.
@hoseasylvester2596
@hoseasylvester2596 3 года назад
What is the closest thing to Baudelaire in English
@_blank-_
@_blank-_ 3 года назад
@@hoseasylvester2596 Baudelaire was Edgar Allan Poe's translator in French, so I guess Poe?
@TomorrowWeLive
@TomorrowWeLive 3 года назад
@@Thomas...191 I feel the same way. I love reading so much and I wish I could learn all the world's languages so as to immerse myself in all the world's literatures (because translated novels unfortunately almost always suck). But I don't even have time to read all the great English novels I want to read.
@MoonSt0n3
@MoonSt0n3 3 года назад
@@hoseasylvester2596 I'd love to answer but I don't actually know sadly!
@MmmGallicus
@MmmGallicus 3 года назад
As a Frenchman, I can confirm that the stress isn't inside the words. It's in the flow of the sentence. Hence the art is to have the musicality ebb and flow in each line. If you try an alexandrin, then you will have two balanced 6 syllable halves, so that you can have a nice symmetry. Which you will break from time to time to create a dramatic effect.
@joannaalston469
@joannaalston469 3 года назад
@@andreasandros8580 yes it is! most french poetry/plays of 19th century and before are.
@jayhache5609
@jayhache5609 3 года назад
Very well stated. Thank you.
@oscarmajdi3700
@oscarmajdi3700 3 года назад
Avec l’accent du sud y’a ce « stress » dans les mots non ? Ou c’est juste chantant ?
@adamuppsala1931
@adamuppsala1931 3 года назад
yes, I agree!
@jandron94
@jandron94 3 года назад
@@oscarmajdi3700 oui chantant, ça ne change pas la nature des mots.
@rrad8106
@rrad8106 2 года назад
I always learn something interesting on these videos!
@thefallenchaoskeeper
@thefallenchaoskeeper 2 года назад
…I did not know how much I needed this. Thanks.
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