Why Should We Care if India Becomes the World's Third Largest Economy? 

American interferences in Indian election has been a problem

What is wrong if India becomes a 50 Trillions Dollars Economy by 2050 with a 1.5 billion Population, an incredibly open Society and a Democratic Country at that and an English Speaking one too with 3 times the combined Population of Europe and America.? An automatic Counter weight to China and Russia? Why block its rise ? Jai Hind !

Atul explained India's side of the story so eloquently 👌 Problem with most Americans is that they either don't know or don't remember their own deeds or history. Even the geo political experts are focussed only on their narrative and ask questions like why is India with Russia or why is India with Iran. It's like asking why is America with Israel or with the Saudis. The historical baggage of 1971 is still vivid in the minds of most Indians when President Nixon and Secretary Kissinger sent the 7th fleet to the Bay of Bengal to prevent India from liberating East Pakistan (now Bangladesh). Kissinger also tried to convince Communist China to open up a second front against India to make sure Pakistan was not defeated. And this is USA, the freedom loving global champion of democracy that supported the Pakistani military dictator Yahya in his genocide, rape and murder of millions of Bengalis; not mentioning how arms and ammunition was secretly sent on Pakistani freighters that had come to the ports of Philadelphia, NYC, and Boston. Since then numerous sanctions were put on India by successive administrations till the the mid 2000's when President Bush changed things.

There's nothing similar between us other than being democracy. Big difference we don't trample upon others whereas US believes only in that

Authoritarianism of Modi , WTF ?? Says The Nation Which has Over 850 Military Bases Around the World 20 of Those in Japan ( Hiroshima, Nagasaki ) 15 in South Korea Too

Let me give the Indian part of the story (narrative) on Russia relations. 1. During the 1971 war with Pakistan ( and during the formation of Bangladesh), USA sent a fleet to the Bay of Bengal to support Pakistan's cause. Russia in the meanwhile sent their submarines to support India. The fact that the USA had planned to take coercive action against India, is a very sore thumb and will not likely be forgotten any time soon. Same with the Russian support. 2. Russia (USSR) supported the Indian manufacturing sector and provided technologies for the same. There are two operational steel plants in India which work on Russian technology. The USA on the other hand ensured that such basic technologies were not supplied to India. 3. The cardinal sin, however was the support of Pakistan, against Indian interests during the teenage years of India. The USA supported the Pakistan run by army generals over democratic India, obviously due to benefits that these generals were providing to the USA. 4. In short, all this is a part of our Indian curriculum in our high school in India. While we don't hold grudges, against what happened during colonial India or early days of free India - it remains in the collective memory of Indians and it is obvious that people are sensitive to the history of the nation - we remind ourselves - " Never again". That is also the reason for non-alignment and looking out for your own country over all the "democratic niceties" & democratic alignment mouthed by such alliances. This is an argument that collective memories of Indians hold in a benign sort of way. Good to have friends but be wary of everyone's interests, including yours. Do not take any such niceties to be a guarantee against inimical interests - Be pragmatic.

India is atleast five thousand plus years old . Invasion by Muslim countries & colonisation by British in last 900 plus years has been painful experience to Indians. However, India is slowly progressing with firm footing especially in the last decade. Aspirations of Indian is high & hopes are high for India.

If US minds its own business, everything Will fall in place. US must stop interfering in internal affairs of India.

This dude is one of the most balanced person I have heard on India.

Congratulations on this podcast. This is the first podcast I have come across from the US, which takes a non bias and pragmatic approach to the way India sees the world and its foreign policy 👍

Correction: Its not Indo Pacific, its Indian Ocean. It would be nice to have just one place in the world where USA doesnt push itself.

This is the first time US expert on Indian affairs and unbiased view on India😇. Nice to see that!!

Rural india in a way more prosperous than urban india in many regions. Purchasing power of rural india is increasing drastically. Any company will have dream consumer market in india , think about in a 30 years time indian market is 5 times of american market with significant purchasing power.

India has been democracy, even before western discovery of democracy. Thanks why our PM simply calls India has mother of democracy.

India is called sub continent for a reason you have to treat every state is a country of its own in its culture

Do you guys know anything about India’s history? Let’s start there. If you don’t know indias journey to independence over the last 200 years, it will be difficult for you guys to understand the Indian Republic, which is based on democratic principles. I am a US Citizen, trying to grow my business in India.

Atul kashyaps knowledge and the way he answered the questions showed his amazing grip on everything India. A masterclass in communication .

India is a democracy . That’s why it matters

although you are an American citizen and work for american government and interest, I as an indian is very proud of you Atul for your intellect , acumen and articulation of india - us relationship. truly a treat. I'm quite apprehensive about the deep state in US which keeps popping up now and again undermining our success. We indians wish US well, we want you to remain the only world superpower for a peaceful proporous world.

One of the best podcasts of a westerner who actually understands india.

Mr Atul such a humble , learned and insightful man…your every answer was up to the mark and was answered with grace and dignity…as a India happy to see we have such good learner and open minded people in western hypocritical society…respect for you Mr. Atul how graciously u answered the questions of the dum misread and ill informed host u wanted to talk about geopolitics of india with you but did not have a inch of knowledge about india other then what that misleading biased western newspaper like New York Times and Washington post write about india to degrade india, Indians and the Indian government..seeing the few of the questions which the host was trying to ask you like Hindu nationalist bjp and anti Modi rehotric in his questions it seems he gets fund from George Soros foundation to spread anti india anti Modi narrative but happy u answered it all well….that stupid host western media wrote Modi failed in elections was hilarious 😂 stupid host your so called Modi’s Hindu nationalist 😂 BJP got 240 seats and the dum opposition’s single largest party got 99 seats so in what sense did Modi lost that to after 10 years of continuous rule & continuous meddling of westerners biased agenda based media houses and governments intervention in Indian election as they were a party in these elections and Modi was there opponent constant anti Modi anti Hindu anti india narrative at time of election only in print and digital mode both Aljazeera, BBC, New York Times, Washington Post, The Gurdian, The Economist , France 24 , DW News, ABC Australia etc it looked like in the two months of election they were proper funded and instructed by their masters to drive anti Modi anti bjp and anti India endless campaing and misleading narrative with only anti India panelist to present just the wrong narrative and image of India but still after all odds the India public showed its faith in Modi and bjp few 30 seats sort of majority in not a big deal as the bjp with it’s present poll alliance partner has comfortably secured 294 seats which is way up to the 273 majority mark and ultimately Mr Modi is the boss…and the opposition for whom these hypocritical media campaigns for two months just got 99 out of 543 so I guess u know who is the winners and who is the loser.

An amazing and insightful discussion with Atul Kashyap's brilliant perspective and delivery. Kudos!

It was amazing listening Atul Keshap, just fantastic

Atul has presented a most balanced and incisive look at India, and its growth to becoming a superpower.!!

Russia is an example of Indian loyalty to long term relationship. Save for NATO and US leadership, which benefited European security and prosperity after Second World War there is hardly any examples of long term loyalty in Western societies. Imagine how loyal India will be to western efforts, if they offer support to Indias rise like China from 1970 s to 2000. Drawing India into disputes of Europe and wish it compromise its national interest is futile. 50 Billion Air Force assets, 25 Billion infantry assets, 10 s of billion Naval assets will stand ineffective. Fertilizers from Russia, oil at discount, Atomic power stations are crucial to the future of Indian economy. And also important short term from inflation in food and crucial farm sector that employs 47 % of the population. These are NO NO with valid reasons. If China needs to be balanced India is the only sure option for the world. As time passes even more important to rest of the world. Just adding what is already known! Great discussion to understand the Indian behavior in today’s world!

Lil more details on 1971 incident. Americans sent its nuclear warship into Indian Bay of Bengal sea during India Pakistan war on freedom of Bangladesh. Russia sent their submarines to deter Americans

Overall good discussion. He knows India maximum.. thank you.

We cannot kill agriculture in India rural sector for manufacturing and make world grain less and hungry. We dont want to kill our environment for west like China did. We might go slow and we will have to develop agriculture with modernization which I agree. Future food is gold, not things that we manufacture.

As someone who is an Indian citizen working in America, I have my loyalties to both nations however, what's missing in this discussion is how American leadership has left its citizens clueless about their own mistakes viz a viz the US India relationship 1970s liberation of then East Pakistan as Bangladesh happened only when even after numerous attempts by Indian leadership and numerous telegrams by then us envoy in Bangladesh about the atrocities done by Pakistan fell on deaf years ( read up on blood telegrams named after the us envoy himself) Nixon infact sent in more arms to Pak to continue with the genocide and when India intervened, us sent it's 7th naval fleet to bay of Bengal as a threat and Nixon considered nuclear weapons, it was only cause of then USSR sending it's nuclear submarines to patrol in bay of Bengal that thwarted this attack, so clearly helping genocidal idiots in Bangladesh was a big mistake in which US, UK, France, Saudi Arabia, Jordan were all helping Pakistan with arms and ammunition. It's no wonder that such a stand by western powers in helping a military dictatorship like Pakistan caused India to lose trust against western powers. Back in 1999 when Pakistan invaded Indian territory of Kargil and started an armed conflict under the guise of non state actors President Clinton instead of condemning the attack had helped Pakistan by turning off GPS guidance for Indian armed forces missile systems, eventually India won the conflict with arms and ammunition supplied by Israel and Russia, so the fault lines never even got a chance to heal. It's only USSR and Russia that have continuously helped us by vetoing any offensive by the west in support of its all weather ally Pakistan on Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir, it's only Russia that displays the correct map of India and no other nation does it so we don't have anything to hold against Russia. As far as ukraine goes the amount of racism that Indian and African students faced by Ukraines armed forces while getting out at the start of rus Ukraine conflict was never covered by western media but only by regional media so whitewashing racism is something that shall never go down well by victims of colonization. Even when all such attacks were being conducted against Indians, the Indian gov never stopped sending humanitarian aid and in fact shall be the highest contributor of humanitarian aid to Ukraine

Excellent talk. Youearned a Bharatiya Sub

It was wonderful to find a positive person with enormous understanding about feelings of Bharat and it's glorious civilization and past ancient linkages with people of other countries.. Usually we come across US characters who try to bully or threat or lecture or blabber skewed narratives without any knowledge about ancient civilizational linkages and history.... Really admirable discussion.. people without knowledge should follow and try to learn more about civilizations... Best wishes...

Many Indian companies with market capitalization of more than $50 B ,with penetration in Africa, middle east , south America, east Asia,. North American and Europe will be next phase,

US & Europe need to support India a vibrant economy and all embracing age-old Hindu culture which all peace loving religions...I appreciate this Podcast for its positive and encouraging approach to India... thank you so much..❤❤❤😊

This gentleman, Mr. Atul Keshap (half Indian, half white ?), really knows his stuff. Through all his answers, he has displayed accurate and deep knowledge about India's history and Indian political thought process.

Atul can help Indian government to explain how to fix some of the issues that will allow more jobs to be created.

Indian government has prevented (somewhat successfully) its population from being exploited by companies from western economies. You have to understand we come from a recent colonial past with heavy exploitation memories, hence the delayed opening of the market to the world.

The guest has answered very beautifully, in details.

JAI HIND 🙏🏽🕉️🙏🏽🇮🇳🙏🏽

Excellent talk ..the West needs to align itself to the new realities n not with a white supremacy attitude n arrogance

Remember ruling 60 countries with only one million officers and majority Indian's were middle armed protector for British ,otherwise it would have been impossible to rule 60 countries.

Put an indian flag on your thumbnail, and you will get a million+ views.

I agree with the commentators every view and can say he has a much better perspective than many other. I believe such podcasts should replace US mainstream media to reflect on the reality of the rest of the world instead of some sham cooked-up perspective by elite liberals (so called). Kudos to the host asking very clear questions (non-opineated) and for hosting such podcasts with learned guest speaker/commentator.

This is great conversation, I love all three of you!!

Brilliant analysis on india/usa relationship

Well balanced conversation

I don’t believe America helped any during Galwan dispute. Atul is just trying to be polite.

What ? BJP close to Iranian theocracy? How about USA close to Pakistan dictator ship? Nah, that does not matter right? You are not answerable to anyone?

Great conversation! 🙏

Excellent presentation

My question to the speaker - what is your topic?if it is about the local Indian market, then stay focused on that?

great interview.

Great discussion 👍

Very balanced analysis

US cannot mind our own business. We dont know how to do that and be relevant. The friction point is usually when countries dont listen to us and do what we say. This way has served us well so far. Not sure if it will in the future but we will learn and evolve if necessary.

good conversation

in india we need professional skilled and modernly equipped which will speed up production...a carpenter compared to us carpenter..big diff...in labor input ..missing big time in india missing big time in india

Excellent presentation.

By 2030 $8 Trillion GDP

There was lot of diffirence of opinion between Venuzuala z country with US sanction but borrowed lot from Russia was troubling its neighbour Guyana. An understanding of Venuzulan oil supplied by Russian vessel solved all the 3 countries are benifited and Venuzuala has stoppef bullying Guyana which has 40% Indians who were taken there as Indentured labourers .Now guyana which has found oil , Indian are helping the country in its oil exploration . India has also agreed to build Urea plant in Venezuela and Guyana so that their agriculture grows because of the oil found . All a win win situation for every one to live in peace and happily. Similiar acts are being taken up in African Countries invluding establishing Medical Colleges /Medical hospitsls of high class where complicated surgery is performed

Chinese aggressive politics is underplayed here also. I am sure that they all know it.

Pragmatic and helpful to USA and Indian relationship

Thank u 4 keeping it honest..... 🙏

China developed on its own terms. India should also develop in its own terms.

Jim & Ray represent the genuinely sympathetic but often dismissive & uninformed 'Yanks' who get under the Indians' skin. Ambassador Kayshap displays an impressive knowledge of history and grasp of Asian future. People like him would have served so much better for US- India relationship than Garcetti and Blinken- too bad.

So funny, West points to a finger to India, then realizes 3 fingers are towards them!

Good conversation, at least somebody knows little bit about India

Another example of loose loose deal is between Pakistan and India.

Amb.Keshap is a great friend of India.

man in the blue shirt...knowlegebal

Not if when .and one day number one

10:25 the urban rural divide can be so misleading. Rural India is a not by the books economy - cash only, barter, no claimed business or workers etc.

I am ur under 1000 subscriber !!

Shouldn't you talk about terrorist country to the wests

Blue shirt man didn't mince a word about authoritarian regime, looks like a big Modi (Putin) fan :)

some times why even need so called democracy even voted government not doing much to the people who voted, i prefer dictator it he/she is in good sense, even north korea is doing really good in that sense.

Modi will lead India to become the worlds third largetst economy, Modi will be re elected in 2029 and then again last term in 2034

China will never accept lines drawn, often unilaterally, by the Brits. And 'india' which was cobbled together by the Brits is not the automatic inheritor of the British Raj. Too many agents of India here.

38:20 I don't think Indian FP objectives could be declared as promiscuous

You should not care at all, nothing to worry, move along.

Please don't colonise India again . India no want no colonisation no more . India want independent existence .

US wants a level-playing field for their companies, but they will not hesitate in preventing companies like Huawei & BYD to come into the US Market. Hypocrisy at the highest.

Don't use the word civilization with America 😂😂😂

Nobody should be excited by this GDP ranking. Even if one day India reaches the level of U S GDP, per capita income will still be less than the third when compared to that of Americans. Income inequality and spendable income will still be a less and unattractive as a future market for western goods.

The Guy in Black Polo Shirt Tries to Act Oversmart. What a Clown

No one is asking you to care.... .?

the guy in the black tshirt on top looks bored to death

US has no alternative and India has many options. India will play every possible leverage game because west always played that same leverage game with India siding with Pakistan.

You would be better off staying as far away from the West, as possible.

Why am I even watching this …., the usual patronising Americans.

Bored 🥱

very western ignorance about india/asia exposed here.

We need Sharia 🎉🎉sharia in UK france🎉🎉🎉germany 🎉

Modi needs to go and we need somone in India who is humble and whose heart beats for the poor and destitute of India. Modi is pro-rich and sucks up to Ambanis, Adanis and wherever public glare is. He was even seen talking to the cricket team that came back after winning a Cricket tournament! He has not addressed major challenges: Police reforms, Judicial reforms, Education reforms. Police in India is a concubine of the political class. We have seen how it is misused by a CM (his counterpart in USA is the Governor) of the largest Indians State (Province) viz U.P. Police needs to be liberated from the clutches of the politicians and bureaucrats but who will bell the cat? Judiciary in India is crumbling. It takes 7 years or more to go for a petitioner to a hearing! Education in India and by that i mean quality education, is beyond the reach of most poor people, and lower middle class. It is expensive and here again you have corruption everywhere in the form of huge donations that the schools (private) demand.

India is still a very poor country. I, as a naturalized US citizen, relocated to India some years ago to lead a retired life. I find it a good place for retirement but there is a lot that is not right here. Infrastructure sucks. As a senior citizen, I cannot even walk on the roads of any major city without risking my life because there are no designated platforms for pedestrians. One has to compete with the traffic! The place is overcrowded in big cities. Traffic is chaotic. There are no rules. Police is corrupt. Almost every institution of govt is ripe with corruption. When my father passed away 6 months ago, I had to pay a bribe to get his body released from the mortuary! I see a lot of homeless people everywhere in India. I see beggars everywhere. So, does it matter to me if India becomes the 3rd largest economy? No, it does not. It probably only goes to show that rich Indians like Ambanis, Adanis are getting richer while the poor are getting beaten up. Those who are excited about it can take that piece of statistics and shove it where the moon never shines!

2:51 - most Indians aren't passionately devoted to democracy and human freedom any more. India has been deeply & irrevocably radicalized by the current regime in power. I am an Indian, living in India - and I see those values get murdered every single day. India under Modi is the place where liberalism comes to die.

BJP being a hindu party in hindu majority India is great as Hindus ensures a secularism and a pluralistic society in contrast to a islamic nations where blasphemy laws , kafir hate and islamic jehad prevails ...n even a Christian states where conversion is rampantly practised n have moved from the barbaric crusaders times to the other extreme where islamic radicalisation is taking over their land n society n now right wings ideologies and red necks are becoming more prominent in USA n Europe . Hinduism which is one of the oldest religion- phylosphy believes in global citizenship n global village concept unlike the Abrahamic religions which believes in Nation state ideology .

Amazing and insightful discussion, Atul you are brilliant

India is growing really fast and making money from various aspects...

Is there any country which faced or will famine, war or destruction due to a rising Bharat? None

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