Why Snape Was Forced To Teach Potions [Harry Potter Theory] 

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I solemnly swear I will be there.

bruh moment

I'll be there! 👍

"Dumbledore's lunch plans"

Brilliant!

@@michaelab1128 Kanna nom nom nom

Hahaha yes, quite exactly

lol

Exactly, this here is all the signs one needs

This is exactly why teachers need to stop being paid for reading from a book litterally that's most of their job Or if they don't read the book they watch the students read the book while getting to be lazy Honestly teachers being underpaid is a joke they're overpaid they should be paid minimum wage if that even I can read the same thing from a book 6 times a day for an hour each especially if I'm getting paid $8 a hour Now the good teachers yeah but most teachers aren't good

OMG MIND BLOWN!! 🤯

@@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 Even with teaching out of a book, you still need to know the subject matter. Imagine teaching out of a music textbook if you can't read music. You still need to actually introduce the subject. You need to do more than simply use examples out of the book.

@@karlrovey I'm a hostory buff to a minor degree and I could teach mad history just using the curriculum and so could every other 1/10th of the population who enjoys a little history and can form sentences in a cohesive manner. Teachers often are a joke. Then you find those teachers who are just above and beyond and those ones really shine. Being a teacher is easy. Teaching isn't.

was looking for this oversight right here

I am of the mind that since Snape only started getting better near the end, the Slughorn took notice of him, but possibly avoided bringing him into his circle at that point because he was growing closer to the Death Eaters. He does feel guilt for Voldemort's rise after all, and would most likely be keeping an eye on his former student out of fear.

The reason why Lily was so good at potions -- she was diddly daddling with Snape on the side 😏😏😏

Gotta think that Snape was tutoring Lily on potions as well, at least at first.

i feel like they timed the slaps really well in the movies, the yule ball and harry saying but i am the chosen one for example

@@jacobsun1564 YES, those moments are so funny. It’s the little stuff like that the really makes the movies great, I still like the books a lot more but the movies really brought the characters to life with stuff like that.

He showed him what the five fingers said to the face. But by fingers I mean paper and by face I mean back of the head.

@@tradeka4206 yes I just wish they included the potions bit in the sorcerers stone when they were doing their quests like ron did the wizard chess i wish hermione got to do potions like in the book

@@tradeka4206 some characters. Some got neglected.

How did you see the video this early

@@keegannielsen notifications

I wouldnt be surprised if Dumbledore had Lilies grow near his window too. Can't be too cautious.

ah yes

Dumbledore really like to torture both Harry and Snape...

I just came to the comments to discuss this

Also, the way James hair is described I don’t think he used them either😂

Champ&me no he did

@@champme5820 But James was the opposite. He loved having his hair with that constant 'I just got off a Quidditch broom' chaos. In the book, he even messed up his hair intentionally.

The slimeball

I always wondered, why couldn't Dumbledore remove the jinx from that job? Moldy Voldy had the last laugh on that one.

​@@rawdaaljawhary4174Voldemort is dead so his magic is gone.

I may be wrong but I think Dumbledore confirms this in the books

@@rawdaaljawhary4174from what I’ve read the jinx was just that strong that dumbledore with the elder wand couldn’t remove it

A year late but Slughorn was the best source and he says Snape was outclassed .

@@acealpine6806 ^ this. it’s a lot of assumptions to make based on very little context (we don’t have many other potions masters to compare him to, and the one that we do is lazy by nature)

@@reagansmith9509 But Rowling was the voice of Slughorn in the books. Thus when Slughorn said "Lily was even better than Snape", it pretty much means that according to Rowling herself, Lily was better at potions. Slughorn had a nose for students with _real talent_ or students with great connections. But Snape wasn't in the club. Why? Well we know that he had no valuable connections. And he was poor. That left _talent_ . So if Snape really were as "talented" as Snape stans swear he was, Slughorn would have quickly snatched him up. But Slughorn never picked Snape. Could it be that Snape was a regular student who learned through trial + error? Could it be that Snape only got good at his profession after years of practice? I think that's the case. And I think many of his notes came from his former best friend. That's why he had to write them down. A true prodigy would know all that by heart. But Rickman was cool, so Snape became a highly overrated character who could not fail. In truth, Snape was a normal student (bright but no genius) who failed as often as he had succeeded . The man pulled off ONE trick ( shielding his thoughts from Voldemort) and he became a god in the eyes of Snape fans.

@@acealpine6806 totally agree. the fact that lily is a muggleborn (who slughorn shows prejudice against even after the first wizarding war against voldemort) and therefore has no wozarding connections just proves how impressive she truly was. i’m willing to believe even that snape was naturally gifted at potions and maybe spurred by his love/obsession with lily and hatred for james, but he’s nowhere near the level of a potions savant.

@@acealpine6806 To be honest, with how powerful Snape is in various subjects of magic, I wouldn't assume that Snape actually lacked talent, its more likely that despite his talent, Slughorn was just not interested in him. When it comes to the Club, he cares alot about the prestige and outward apperances of it and Snape was a poor and pretty anti-social loner who was predominantly known for being highly obsessed with the Dark Arts, plus he was a half-blood, which probably made him rather boring. With Lily on the other hand, she was both talented as well as pretty charismatic and I think her being a muggleborn gave Slughorn the opportunity to engage in some performative activism in publicly supporting her. We know that Slughorn has some prejudices, as he considered it something remarkable that Lily was as talented as she was despite her heritage, so I would assume that he liked to engage in charitable tokenism when it comes to muggleborn students he allows into his club. Basically "look at me, I'm giving this little muggleborn a leg up". Not saying that Lily might not have been actually better at the subject than Snape, especially since I would assume that she spend more time learning for it than him, while Snape was constantly experimenting with his own curses or hanging out with future-death eaters.

Yeah, I always read between the lines that "lily was his favorite student" and lily was the best student meaning more in the lines of affection + talent rather then purely talent. I don't know that she outshone Snape in raw potions talent. Maybe she got better grades but grades aren't definitive evidence in my experience.

I also just realised that Snape always knows what the students did wrong. So he recognised in which of the steps the students missed an ingredient. Just another addition to his teaching not from the books.

Personally, I'd like to know how good other Death Eaters were. Despite the fact that they were outnumbering the OotP, they were going toe to toe to talents like Sirius, James, Lily, Lupin, Longbottoms Moody etc. Like how good was Lucius really? Or even randos like Dolohov or Yaxley or whoever was a Death Eater at the time, they couldn't have been far off

Absolutely

Love this take. Snape was the most knowledgeable portions master in the entire Wizarding World at the time.

It's his service animal, relieves anxiety attacks.

He was teaching what muggle would do to them if they ever reached high amounts of radiation. And when the door to the classroom opened by Mcgonagall he shrunk down Godzilla into his un-radiated state, an iguana.

It would an interesting topic to explore, perhaps the fifth year is suppossed to teach students about how non-magical animals are used in dark rituals and how to set up counter rituals (Oliver Wood was a fifth year student). We know that snakes for example are often used in the Dark Arts but other animals might used as well or could be used in counter spells. If they explore the topic however, it would be even more interesting to see what student are supposed to be taught in each year, if everything went perfect. My guess would be: First year: simple hexes and curses that more useful as pranks and an introductionary course to the dark arts and what to defend against. Second year: simple counter spells to defuse situations and probably the disarmment spell Expelliarmus. Other simple duelling spells might also have been part of curriculum if given by someone competent. Third year: Defense against dark magical creatures of lower dangerous classes. Fourth year: more advanced counter spells, the introduction of darker spells and the first introduction of the Unforgivable curses (without demonstration, if given by someone else than Barty Crouch Jr.). Fifth year: Dark rituals and counter rituals and the use of animals in these rituals. (If given by someone else than Umbridge), combined with anything that came before in previous years at the OWL examens. Sixth year: Giving students a deeper and more thorought understanding of how dark the Dark Arts could really be. This is the point the gloves come off and the students are exposed more to results of the darkest arts and a proper demonstration of the Unforgivable curses. They have to know what they are up against and learn how to combat most. Also an applied emphasis on nonverbal magic. Seventh year: Curse recognition and curse breaking, patronus charm and more of the hardest and strongest defensive spells. Probably some of the final forms of dark arts with the sole exception of the Horcrux.

If only Harry would have decent DADA teacher at fifth year, we might know the answer! ;)

🤣 lol! Would love to know

Therein lies the reason the family created the hair care line..out of control hair in the family

@@flowingwaters5118 As someone with notoriously “out of control hair”, I can entirely empathize with this need.

@@flowingwaters5118 which makes the true irony the fact that even though James and harry potters ancestor made it, they still just leave their hair out of control

Hahahaha

He supposedly was a brilliant straight 'Outstanding' student. My guess is he was somewhat like a young Dumbledore. Prideful and ideologically ambitious. 'I am smart/strong therefore I am right' mentality.

Harry didn't learn how to throw off the curse from crouch, a different video proves it

It’s kind of like in muggles school you can get the same answer but if you use a different method you will get in trouble

And even doing something well can get bad initial reactions. Everyone hates on my Pizzadillas, right up until they taste them.

@@alexifelton1070 I secretly use different methods and no one knows 😉

He likely also didnt want to outshine his love lol

That’s very Ravenclaw of Snape,

That's funny and morbid and sad in the same way

He still blames the Potter to this day

That’s terrible 😂

😅

Too soon. Always too soon.

I mean she does become defacto second in command for dumbledore for the general school AND ends up becoming headmistress. I dont think she was ignored for her contributions.

That was literally my favorite part of the channel!

@@ethanbartiromo2888 I was also happy to hear that

Where u expecting him to go "And a special thanks to these patrons"?

i have them as well!

You mean Alan Rickman?

“Turn to page 394”

Oh. My. God. And he did it in the best way imaginable!!!!

Why dafuq did I just read 394 in Snape's voice?

@@raibyo Because we all do. Always.

This. I think he might have been even better. Slughorn was the type of guy that not only was hunting for the single best but wanted to surround himself with carismatic and cheerful people. Snape was none of it.

Same. Snape was most likely one of those, that are excellent at something, but they just dont show it or do it silently. Also, looking at Slughorn's favorite students, seems like classism also played major role in who's gonna be his favorite. Snape was that poor, rugged and quiet type of a student.

Slughorn only surrounded himself with people that were in the "in crowd" like Harry, Willoughby, etc. Snape was picked on at school and not revered, so he was never asked to join the Slug club. Lily was an exceptional student (and muggle born) which intrigued other students and in turn Slughorn. Had Snape been more popular he too would have been invited (but this is another thing he loathes the Marauder's for as they were popular and he wasn't)

@@agirlinabasementofyourdaddy I mean he took on Voldemort who at the time was a penny less orphan. I guess you could argue he saw “greatest” in him. But wouldn’t that mean he also would give Snape a chance? Since he was such a poison prodigy. I mean it could also be an oversight from JK Rowling lol

@@taylors445 Yeah, Volde was a pennyless orphan but he was an /incredibly/ handsome, charming and talented wizard who quickly gained popularity and was thought of as a model student. That more than qualifies him to be considered in crowd material, versus the likes of Snapes who was constantly bullied by everyone around him.

Honestly that is the real reason (curse I mean)

What curse on the position?

@@KillerofGods voldemort put a curse on the position when he didn't get it so that no one could keep it 2 years in a row.

@@KillerofGods That curse could take effect in any form too almost seemingly affecting destiny. Death, memory loss, reputation hit, soul removal, assaulted/traumatized by centaurs, etc.

@@KillerofGods If you read the books, it's all explained. OR, Google it. XD

Zoë Taylor Me too

sameee

This is the most sound argument; along with Snape being really good at potions. I believe that he finally got the position because he had to leave at the end.

Maybe this is what JKR intended but then people started over analyzing and things began to fall into place for other, more interesting theories. Also, JKR needed a plot device for Snape to die.

@@victoriarees4540 And for Snape to live safely. I don't think Dumbledore intended Snape to die, either, but knew it was a possibility.

To be fair things started to go dark at this time though. Finding any teacher was probably becoming tougher. People tend to lockdown and shell-up in crisis.

@@Wand422 hmmmm Reminding everyone not to - not try out - for potions teach during these unique times

Slughorn was brought with the EXCUSE of potions class, the real purpose was his memories

Actually, Dumbledore wanted Slughorn back at the school to get the memory out of him. I think that Dumbledore probably gave Snape the DADA job to leave an opening for Slughorn.

There was a curse on the Dark Arts class, placed there by Voldemort himself. It's in the books. Why would Dumbledore place a very valuable spy in such a dangerous position? That's like being in a war and telling your best general to walk on a tightrope, 50 feet above ground, with no safety nets. Why not make it quick and simply zap Snape in the head?

Not to forget that he even beats Gordon Ramsey in verbally abusing the people he's supposed to teach.

Alphonse said "Alchemy was born in the kitchen."

Thanks...now I have images of Snape teaching home ec in the muggle world calling them to eff off lol

That’s how I always explain cooking to people who say they’re bad at it. Just think of it as a science experiment you can eat.

Yep. And that's why Sectumsempra was first used in the lakeshore scene, which is year 5, not 6.

Maybe a little but not to Ron and Harry levels . Lily was still written to be smart but Snape seems to be in a league with the likes of Dumbledore.

@@pianofry1138 Thats vasty overestimating him

@aotpov no considering that Snape killed Dumbledore. He did surpass Dumbledore. Even Harry Potter surpassed Dumbledore by defeating Voldemort that throughout all the years haunted Dumbledore and his magic academy that Dumbledore could do nothing against even the death eaters much less Voldemort. Thus "professor" Dumbledore is the one who is overestimated and highly exaggerated of his "skills".

@@zlonewolf 1.Dumbledor let himself be killed as part of his plan. 2.It was Voldemorts overconfidence,Dumbledors plan and harrys admirable perfomance that defeated Voldemort. And no Dumbledore deserves every credit that he gets.

Dobby loved that line.

Me too

They have lost a prefect chance to say "these clocks are amazing" with Vincero

Yes I do

same

Ahhh, very reminiscent of the study hall scene in goblet (where they find out hermione has a date and don’t believe her)

This is my favourite Snape quote.

i thought this theory was practically confirmed at this point

Moody was added to keep an eye on Karkaroff, a former death eater

maybe he secretly used it, lol

Love it!

Sounds more accurate then acurrate .😂😂😂

@@ilp8067 literally

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Haha I think you meant to say years 😂😂 haha, but they have stepped up their theory game as of late

Im not gonna say I don't like the theories but I would like a little break from the theories

The theories are the best. I love them and it's what drew me to their channel :)

Yesss!! I love their HP theory videos so much, I've probably watched every one of them, I really hope they keep making those (and that there's enough theories for that)

Harry, despite being essentially raised by muggles didn’t really super struggle in school. He was lazy but still got decent enough grades. Not hermione smart, but smart enough. I don’t think snape helped lily since they got super distanced after a few years in school. Especially after she started dating James

Snape: Hmmm I need to impress my muggle-born friend with whom I've been deeply in love for years... I will join this group of muggle-born haters that wish to eradicate her kind from Earth. Snape's logic is not very solid.

@@AnzuBrief Was there any non hating half-Muggles group in Slytherin house at that time?

An iguana isn’t that far from a snake, and he was growing Voldy out of his head. 🤷🏼‍♀️

P-p-pet*

Yeah, but why bring a none magical pet to show and tell in a Defense Against the Dark Arts class?

indi a f it was show and tell day

lol

Yeah, they literally just said that.

More like, im dead inside. But close enough.

@@eragon666s I feel like it's one of those things that kinda depends in interpretation because of how different the meanings of the plants are to different people.

The potion that's created by mixing those things is "The Draught of Living Death"...something you could argue Snape was experiencing.

I'm confused as to where he got that from. How does the name of a fictional plant equate to the word regret.

Take this job and your journey towards the light side will be complete

It’s so mean of Dumbledore

Reagan Orton can’t tell if you’re joking or...

Palpatine voice*

We love a good crossover

That's what I thought too, he couldn't risk the life of Snape

I mean, he does hire Lupin and (unknowingly fake) Mad Eye, both allies who he wouldn't want dead

@@beccag2758 I don't think it was common for DADA professors to end up dead though. I mean the position had been cursed, like for what, twenty years at least by the point Harry entered the school? If the professors almost always ended up dead, there would be no more candidates to ever apply for the position. I think it was more common that they ended up leaving for other reasons (like let's say pregnancies, better-paying jobs, disagreements with the other staff members or regular mental health related stuff), and it wouldn't be life-threatening or anything. The deaths and serious injuries maybe came into the picture because of Harry's presence in the school. He caused Quirrell to die because he tried to stop him from taking the Sorcerer's stone. He caused Lockhart to enter the Chamber of Secrets and eventually shoot himself with the memory spell. Crouch Jr. was in the school because he wanted to get Harry killed, but of course got busted in the process and sent back to Azkaban. Harry gave Umbridge to the centaurs knowing what would happen to her. And eventually because of Harry's and Voldemort's fight, Snape also had to die so. Yeah, although he couldn't be blamed for anything other than what happened to Umbridge, all that violence and death probably started only after Harry entered the school, not before it.

Becca G they were each only planning to teach for a year. Lupin wanted to catch Sirius and Mad Eye postponed his retirement.

Ben mentions this at 4:37 , though it could have been a side reason, it wasn't the main reason

The likelihood that they are both potions prodigies is rather small, and if the true genius was Snape then Lily's potions grades would have dropped in her newt years, while if the real genius was Lily Snape still had the book which could well be based on earlier experimentation by the two of them.

@@DaDunge except they were both prodigies weren't they? We have the book as evidence that Snape is a prodigy, and Slughorn's word that Lily was. I'll go further and say that Snape is more talented based on that line Slughorn gives. 7:35. he's not saying that Even Severus was not as good as lily. He's saying that even Severus could not produce such a fine potion on the first attempt. everything in between the hyphens is extra information that can be excluded. It's instinctive you know, why even Severus couldn't have done it. “But I don’t think I’ve ever known such a natural at Potions!” said Slughorn, re-garding Harry with a fond, if bloodshot, eye. “Instinctive, you know - like his mother! I’ve only ever taught a few with this kind of ability, I can tell you that, Sybill - why even Severus -” he stops and drags Snape over and finishes his speech after Snape claims he never felt like he taught Harry anything. “Well, then, it’s natural ability!” shouted Slughorn. “You should have seen what he gave me, first lesson, Draught of Living Death - never had a student produce finer on a first attempt, I don’t think even you, Severus -” that he dragged Snape's name into it means Snape is the best potions student he ever taught.

@@Mehwhatevr i think you're right there.

I literally only have to read your first sentence to up vote this

interesting fact james potter is said to use the spell levicorpus on snape which he created before him and was quite famous but not known who made it, just like sectum sempra

They found the recipe in a book in the restricted section, he didn't teach them

I think the book originally belonged to Snape's mother. He was studying it long before he entered his sixth year.

That's extremely sad. It's like he lives but he feels dead.

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THAT'S an interesting thought.

Which is why he wants to teach DADA so badly knowing that the position is cursed….

Orangenkraft its this and no other reason. Dumbledore didn’t give Snape the DADA position because he couldn’t afford to lose him. It traces back to Dumbledore’s past and “the greater good”.

@@maraudentium2607 t he covered the issue with that theory in the video

AND he didn't care if LUPIN or MOODY are killed or sent away by the jinx? That's...dark...

@@sarthakraghav7591 Moody was gonna retire after the year so he was safe, lupin was in only because of Sirius' escape

Umbridge couldn't have made veritaserum. If she could have, then she would have.

@Coded Perfection yeah... I know she thought she was using it Harry.So I say. If she could have made it, then she would have done everything StormSage said regardless of her position.

I'm so sorry! You had 69 likes on this before I swooped in and clicked the thumbs up before realizing the grave mistake I was making... But you still deserve a like on it so I won't be removing it.

@@fjolliff6308 I understand and I forgive you

Senora Pickle only the og’s feel that nostalgia

I actually clapped when he said it!

They’ve had sponsors for a long time already, but hearing that again is the nostalgic throwback I needed. I wish they’d bring that back

I'm so happy for you guys!

@@Here4Years yeah lol

This is the correct story

Yeah I wonder why that isn't exactly mentioned

@@rockuyt9405 So this channel can make a 15 minute video about pure head-canon to earn money.

yeeeeesssss bro and macgonagal IS NOT some frail old lady, she's a solid fighter/duelist and a Hella talented witch. Talented enough to have an animagus form and a spot teaching charms (?) Which I feel I read somwhere is a hard position to get into

@@revitalized_meat3166 Agreed. Not a knock on OG Macgonagal at all. People just don't realize what a bad@ss Snape actually was.

I missed that for a long time. Severus deflecting the spell killing the two death eaters…

@@alexmartin3143 ...and then grabbing their wands before he decided to peace out.

Umbridge reminds me a lot of US Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos 🤣 Not sorry 😊

Can’t like this comment must keep you on 100

he was probably better than her IMO, but Slughorn was very bias in is opinions and had noticeable favourites

Sophia Gallagher also, barty crouch jr was actually a pretty good teacher too. And I would say less evil than his successor

We still have no idea what this uguana is about.

What’s uguana?

@rishabh anand Crouch Jr got 12 owls so he was an extremely smart wizard I'm not surprised he was a pretty good teacher as well.

totally valid though

Phretty obvious!

PHreTtY ObViOUs

Lockharts an air head

Severus Snape can’t be, it was PRHETTEY OBVIOUS what you were going to do

Wasn’t that septumsempra?

@@anapaulaovalles7748 He tried sectumsempra first, but Snape's above quote was in direct response to Harry trying to use levicorpus.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was 'Sectumsempra', but I'll have to check.

Illjwamh I don’t think it was because of Levicorpus. I think it was because of Sectrumsempra.

@@darthjarjar7572 it was "Sectumsempra"only

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My theory here is that Snape wasn't that good of a portion student the beginning of his school time, I think that he learned a lot from Lily. Slughorn and Lily had a very close relationship, particularly because she was an excellent potions student. So I think that through years one to five, Lily helped Snape with potions and Snape put so much effort into this to impress Lily. So that he was at an excellent level in his OWL and NEWT level. But due to his frequent fights with James he never became a member of slug club. Although this isn't thought through 100% I personally like this idea. It shows the importance of Lily in Snape's life..

Edit: Although I also find the explanation in the video really good :D

What if the potions tips written in Snape's books are Lily's adjustments that he copied down? Maybe Snape's real aptitude was for duelling and inventing dark curses after all

@@Crydus Hey that's a cool theory

In the Half Blood Prince the Slytherin's would went out of their way to say Slughorn wasn't interested in Deatheaters or anyone with any association with them

Obviously😂

Must be

Owen Miller show and tell ✨

Encourager.

yup!

except when you're talking about trusting the person who's entire adult life has revolved around being able to obfuscate that mind reading magic and lie to the other of the most potent mages of all time that's around.

Except when the guy you're trusting was able to keep the darkest wizard of all time from reading his thoughts. And presumably, you.

@@thisislydiarae yea exactly. Snape is WAY better at occlumency than Dumbledore is at Legilimency.

@@buttermonkeyFTW I don't think Snape was better at occlumency Dumbledore wouldn't have use it against someone as he wouldn't just wouldn't just Apparate into a person's house it would be an invasion of privacy at worst he ever does is use Veritaserum on fake Moody

MEEE! 😂 I literally prioritize their vids over everything

Use 1.5-2× speed and you use less time but dont have to skip parts😁

I do think dumbledoree would’ve chastised snape in that case. I think it’s more so he wanted to protect snape from the curse Voldemort placed on the position of DADA

@@RiceCubeTechexactly idk what this guy I ranting on about I thought the curse on the position was confirmed

Creepy Cool Girl Make it lilac.

Chris Frank hardly any of you remembered that my favourite colour is lilac 😅

I’ve made one myself and I might send to them over USB :>

@@mschrisfrank2420 that’s my plan (changed my name 😊)

too bad she didn't get with snape at all and went with james, probably she still thought of him all the time.

Yeah, I’m not into taking away the accomplishments of female characters and especially not then giving them to male characters.

Except then Lily's potions grades would have failed in year 6. I think Lily was really into potions, Snape always trying to curry favour got his mom's book on advanced potions making long before they needed it and Lily learned it all years in advance and started experimenting, Snape kept notes for her, and when they went their separate ways Snape kept the book.

OR it was that as friends that grew up together, they both really liked potions. Don't discredit Lily Evans.

they were both gifted at the least. but if you reread this quoted section of the book in context, Snape was the higher prodigy. “But I don’t think I’ve ever known such a natural at Potions!” said Slughorn, re-garding Harry with a fond, if bloodshot, eye. “Instinctive, you know - like his mother! I’ve only ever taught a few with this kind of ability, I can tell you that, Sybill - why even Severus -” he stops, realizes that Snape is nearby and drags Snape over, tries to give him the credit, and finishes his speech after Snape claims he never felt like he taught Harry anything. “Well, then, it’s natural ability!” shouted Slughorn. “You should have seen what he gave me, first lesson, Draught of Living Death - never had a student produce finer on a first attempt, I don’t think even you, Severus -” it's clear as veritaserum that Snape was better at potions than Lily. he might have been less likable than Lily, and so not Slughorn's favorite, but he was better at potions. What Slughorn was saying is not that "why even Severus was not as good as Lily" what he was saying was that "Why even Severus was not this much of a natural. Why even Severus produced such a fine Draught of Living Death." He didn't say Why even Lily. He dragged Snape into the conversation because being better than Snape at potions, at that age, is the highest of honors he could bestow. Lily was definitely talented and she might have even been a prodigy as well, but being very gifted at potions and slughorn's favorite doesn't mean she was better than Snape. Why I don't think even snape could have produced a finer first attempt. Snape is so good that maybe he could have, slughorn isn't sure. That and he didn't say, "even lily couldn't have produced such a fine attempt"

Except Divination

Anime Crossing S. P. E. W.

It's worth asking why everybody knows about Snape's confidential career applications and his personal feelings about the matter. Snape doesn't seem the sort to be airing out his laundry in front of the school, and the other Hogwarts professors don't come across as the kind of unprofessional gossips who would encourage these rumours. It seems suspiciously like someone wanted this story to circulate.

Probably because he grew up in an abusive household

aberdeen maybe but I think sense of the scarring memories might restrict him from the really good pure charms and sense his dad wasn’t really responsible so herbatolgy is out

Because, just like with real humans, you're not born with talents but have to be taught them.

@@rikk319 you are not taught talents either, you practice, using dedicated time and effort to be better

It's possible his parents were talented but not extraordinaly so, people are just inclined to remember them as greater than they actually were due to them dying at such a young age. It's not uncommon in real life to exaggerate the positive qualities when reminiscing those who died "too soon".

interesting

Interesting, but i wonder if j.k rowling thought that far

@@ucb.aapmotman Rowling put a crazy amount of hidden symbolism in her books- things that make way too much sense to be coincidence. Check the SuperCarlinBrothers video on numerology and all the character's names to have your mind blown, for example.

Kat R honestly i think it depends, cause i cant believe she would scrap all that for the sake of being PC in today’s times

Desmond Gentle I know! Wasn’t that genius!

Pallavi Chaturvedi yeah, no idea why this theory even exists considering it’s actually explained lol

@@gigantycznejabko9362 yeah, plus they took that line out of context. clear as veritaserum, Slughorn was claiming that even Severus wasn't such a natural at potions implying that Severus was superior to Lily. Lily was a natural at potions too, but Severus was better. And he's not sure if even Severus could have produced a finer first attempt. “But I don’t think I’ve ever known such a natural at Potions!” said Slughorn, re-garding Harry with a fond, if bloodshot, eye. “Instinctive, you know - like his mother! I’ve only ever taught a few with this kind of ability, I can tell you that, Sybill - why even Severus -” he stops, realizes that Snape is nearby and drags Snape over, tries to give him the credit, and finishes his speech after Snape claims he never felt like he taught Harry anything. “Well, then, it’s natural ability!” shouted Slughorn. “You should have seen what he gave me, first lesson, Draught of Living Death - never had a student produce finer on a first attempt, I don’t think even you, Severus -”

in book 5 when umbridge is inspecting him...... well, u'll see

_How dare you...??_

😂HAH!

Too soon.

My father will hear about this!

cold

Yeah he is my favorite character

Wow! You noticed that?

Now that’s just a reach lol

That’s exactly what I was thinking!

there's a lot wrong with this theory. Snape claims that he invented the spell when Harry tries to use his spells against him. I don't think Snape is lying. I also think Lily was his favorite simply because Lily was not just talented, but also very likable. charming, funny, etc. Snape, even if more talented than lily, was not very likable. That line he quotes in the beginning about "even severus" is not about severus not being more talented than lily. He was about to say that even Severus couldn't produce such a perfect potion on the first try. Which says the opposite. Severus is the true potions master. it may be true that he just didn't bother until sixth year, but he still had to have the talent. "Harry has such an amazing talent for potions I've never seen anything like it, he must get it from his mother, she was talented too. Even Severus didn't have this kind of talent." which means up until this point, Severus is the best potions student he ever taught. I think the real mystery is why James and Sirius weren't in the SlugClub

@@Mehwhatevr why James and Sirius weren't in the Slug club? Simple headcannon: They were invited once but used it for a massive prank. Sluggy didn't want to be embarast again in front of his important guests and decided to not include them

@@IISheireenII lol. that sounds possible. :)

The real question is why in the world is Snape holding back his knowledge so immensely? Am i the only one who has lots of questions about the Textbook of the Half-Blood-Prince?? This thing opens Plot Holes about the teaching stuff, ya know??