Why So Many Airlines are Going Bankrupt

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References:
[1] www.airlines.iata.org/news/iata-forecasts-355bn-net-profit-for-airlines-in-2019
[2] blog.aci.aero/airport-markets-and-seasonal-variations/
[3] www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/RYAAY/ryanair-holdings/gross-profit
[4] voxeu.org/article/eu-s-insolvency-reform
[5] www.ft.com/content/15ecdab8-c960-11e9-a1f4-3669401ba76f
[6] www.ft.com/content/986c4e6e-db81-11e9-8f9b-77216ebe1f17
[7] tcairlinesuk?lang=en
[8] thepointsguy.co.uk/news/on-thomas-cook-repatriation-flight/
[9] web.archive.org/web/20190514055927/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palma_de_Mallorca_Airport#Airlines_and_destinations
[10] thepointsguy.co.uk/news/on-thomas-cook-repatriation-flight/
[11] www.seatguru.com/airlines/Malaysia_Airlines/Malaysia_Airlines_Airbus_A380_new.php; www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9m-mnf

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@whyisthereahandlenow 5 лет назад

8:44 Wendover: "This is a new phenomenon made possible.." Me: "..by SquareSpace?" Wendover: "..at least on paper, by smaller more efficient long haul aircrafts" Me: oh

@DaZomb1eslayer 5 лет назад

Thought literally the same exact thing

@getriebesand2195 5 лет назад

Holy shit 😂😂u made my day

@marchewkavini 5 лет назад

I just started commenting the same exact thing and saw this as a top comment...

@eschelon9067 5 лет назад

@@DaZomb1eslayer Me too

@Smokecall 5 лет назад

He has you trained

@luisg.m.garcia6972 5 лет назад

Wendover is keeping the entire aviation industry afloat

@askaryl7610 5 лет назад

You mean in the air

@juno6994 5 лет назад

Ha! Hahaha!

@jwhine 5 лет назад

Luis G. M.García the entire aviation industry is keeping wendovet afloat

@johnnychang4233 5 лет назад

@@askaryl7610 You ship by roads, you freight via water and you cargo by air. And actually airplanes stay buoyant due to their wings ;)

@sundhaug92 5 лет назад

@@askaryl7610 Boat-planes ftw

@TheSecondVersion 5 лет назад

Thomas Cook: ""We are ceasing operations *immediately* " (Remotely deactivates airplanes in mid-flight)

@tryingmybest206 5 лет назад

pilots get up and leave

@bearcubdaycare 5 лет назад

Wee hours of the morning. Maybe few aircraft in the air? I wonder why CAA didn't commandeer the Thomas Cook aircraft and crews? Are they no longer legal to fly when bankrupt?

@noahhughes2501 5 лет назад

@@bearcubdaycare I doubt it, but if that were the case? I believe the military can designate them to keep them legal

@joermnyc 5 лет назад

goodfilmful “Uhh... Ladies and Gentlemen, this is your captain speaking... goodbye.” Parachutes out like James Bond.

@sailingsolar 5 лет назад

@ Baker. The airline company lease their planes. As in they don't own them. There are no planes to commander owned by T. Cook

@panzers9484 4 года назад

Oct 8, 2019 : "The last 5 years have been the most consistently profitable and financially successful years ever for the world's commercial airlines" March 2020 : "Biggest drop in demand in the history of aviation"

@ethanch3011 4 года назад

Flybe: OOF

@smilingearth5181 4 года назад

Pulled a little sneaky on ya.

@jessimatic 4 года назад

Haha, isn't capitalism great! It's such a stable provider of happiness!

@jasondashney 4 года назад

@@jessimatic So in a non-capitalist place airlines would be able to sustain themselves? Communists still get paid, ya know.

@Andreas4696 4 года назад

@@jessimatic What are you on about? A worldwide pandemic forces people to stay home and not travel, and you're blaming capitalism for the lack of air travel? Besides, mass-scale commercial air travel would NEVER have existed without capitalism, it would only be available to the elite and politicians under socialism, just as was the case in the Soviet Union.

@ThatLazyyGuy 5 лет назад

Hello

@Jehty_ 5 лет назад

You know that there are channels, like Captain Joe for example, who only make videos about airplanes and airplane related stuff.

@deniskhaidarov9166 5 лет назад

I see plenty of them not covered yet

@BearHawkful 5 лет назад

Jehty nobody gives a fuck

@ThatLazyyGuy 5 лет назад

Jehty fair point

@BladeTheGabite 5 лет назад

but he doesn't have the Toyota Corolla

@Peterd1900 5 лет назад

Thomas Cook wasnt just an Airline. It was a akso a travel agent. Owned its own Hotels and Resorts. The whole thing collpased the airline only being a part of it.

@DJohnGrady 5 лет назад

True, but it was the Airline that provided most of the revenue, and it was the airline's collapse that pulled the rest of it down.

@sleepysartorialist 5 лет назад

Damn!

@tams805 5 лет назад

Part of the problem was it didn't own enough of its own hotels and resorts. TUI is still going partly due to owning a lot of the property it uses. TUI also own far fewer high street stores.

@michaelkitchin9665 5 лет назад

Yeah, the branch network of their size is quite daft. They raised £900m in August just to keep going for another month. Just some shocking management all round, really.

@kestasjk 5 лет назад

@@michaelkitchin9665 Who gave them 900m??

@LeonCharmeleon 4 года назад

*Coronavirus appears Airlines : **Chuckles** I'm in danger

@roughlygalaxy 4 года назад

**Disliked the video because he didn't mention COVID-19**

@ethanch3011 4 года назад

It's suddenly become the aviation version of The Hunger Games 1 canon shot could be heard: Flybe has died

@drabberfrog 4 года назад

@@roughlygalaxy do you have stupid?

@roughlygalaxy 4 года назад

You do realize it was ironic, right? And no I don't have stupid whatever it means.

@neoarmstrongcyclonejetarms9326 4 года назад

Gleison Storto it didn’t exist yet at the time of the video

@Bitrey 5 лет назад

Imagine hearing the pilot mid flight saying "I'm no longer the pilot"

@FRGBlackBurn 5 лет назад

That would be pretty sad

@xcofcd 5 лет назад

Well it's not quite that bad but there have been incidents with bankrupt airlines where the pilots went around the cabin and collected money from all the passengers to pay for the fuel...

@torineg.847 5 лет назад

Since 2001 to 2019 prices have more then quadrupled. It's ridiculous what a ticket cost from west to east coast, or Calif to Toronto in 2001 was only 250.00 round trip. Since I was going on a flight in 2017 from Idaho to Toronto the cost round trip was 900+. wtf happened ? (greed). Just like dentists, denture businesses, doctors, no one can really afford anything. and ya wonder why peoples health are going down hill..

@ggs4869 5 лет назад

@@torineg.847 the prices have quadrupled? here in europe u can fly to major cities for 30-50 bucks. 40 bucks for a flight to barcelona in november near my hometown in germany. prices are so cheap ppl just fly out to another country for a weekend

@alexbrewer 5 лет назад

@@torineg.847 That is misleading, if not blatantly false. The USDOT Bureau of Transportation Statistics keeps meticulous records of airfares. In inflation-adjusted dollars, the average U.S. domestic ticket cost $501 in 2000, dropped to $461 in 2001 due in part to 9/11, and cost $354 in 2018. Flights to Canada are more expensive because Air Canada has too much market share so it is a semi-monopolistic market. But for a US Domestic from coast to coast prices have gone down appreciably.

@TheSecondVersion 5 лет назад

"How to become a millionaire: Start out as a billionaire and open an airline." -Richard Branson

@Eulers_Identity 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing that🤣

@zes3813 5 лет назад

wrr

@senselessnothing 5 лет назад

How to become a billionaire: Start out as a millionaire and take advantage of government.

@jeremykyles567 5 лет назад

Doesn't he own virgin Airline?

@narendrajain9704 5 лет назад

Ha ha ha 😃😃😃

@Nicolasgusso 5 лет назад

8:46 Video: "This business model is made possible by..." ME: SKILL SHARE!!!! Video: "Smaller fuel efficent aircraft..." ME: I need help...

@bandvitromaniaios1307 5 лет назад

Awww man

@yeetosyeeterofyeet1825 5 лет назад

So we back in the mines

@nehela.6201 5 лет назад

Sammeeee!!

@zakitama6337 5 лет назад

We are completely brainwashed!!!

@friggincanvee 5 лет назад

fucking skillshare lol.

@juanthomas6664 4 года назад

2019: Why so many airlines are going bankrupt 2020: Why so many airlines are still not bankrupt

@the_infinity_ Год назад

inverted

@nicelyg114 Год назад

@@the_infinity_u have lesser airlines going bankrupt in 2020 than 2019

@SaikanthDacha 5 лет назад

8:45 When he said "made possible", my brain autocompleted that sentence to "by Skillshare"

@IvanNOFX 5 лет назад

Same, lol

@jabzilla21 5 лет назад

Do you salivate when you hear a bell ring?

@kirenjohn 5 лет назад

The power of marketing!

@yt-sh 5 лет назад

When YOU said "made possible", my brain autocompleted that sentence to "by Skillshare"

@kiwifortnight 5 лет назад

fuck SHILLSHARE

@charonsferryold 5 лет назад

"Our flights and holiday operations are operating as normal." 5 hours later: *I don't feel so good*

@iand3028 5 лет назад

And lost my holiday

@deltoidsforaltoids 5 лет назад

lolololololol

@TheRagingStorm98 5 лет назад

@@iand3028 it's funny because my mate flew Thomas Cook a month before it went bust

@dizzyfizzy4203 5 лет назад

Five hours later: *Hears a snap from a distance* Thomas Cook airlines: I don't feel so good.

@bradtitt7572 4 года назад

Ok boomer

@yo-no9879 5 лет назад

"How to become a millionaire: Start out as a billionaire and open an airline." *-Shrek*

@loplopthebird1860 5 лет назад

It's never ogre

@Voltlighter 5 лет назад

"Get out of me swamp" -Richard Branson

@loplopthebird1860 5 лет назад

@mnemonic Max I laik Shrønk

@colton.421 5 лет назад

Daksh Pat How about you ACTUALLY respond to my replies instead of just deleting them?

@dizzyfizzy4203 5 лет назад

@@Voltlighter GET OUT OF MY HOUSE -Hagrid

@manishk2429 5 лет назад

Airlines: exist Wendover: It's my time to RUMBLEEEE!!

@gamescomgamer 5 лет назад

zeke, take away wendovers ability to make airplane videos

@Mark50x 5 лет назад

What .

@Hauntercry 5 лет назад

Jesus christ this joke has been overused to death

@Pining_for_the_fjords 5 лет назад

Airlines: Don't exist Wendover: It's my time to RUMBLEEEE!!

@aleximay9480 5 лет назад

Don't you mean cease to exist 😂

@AmbitiousLearnWithGeorge 4 года назад

2019: So many airlines went bankrupt! 2020: meh, hold my beer..

@vivekt.2038 4 года назад

@Stephen Smith Wait ! Time traveler ?

@emersonpropst2886 4 года назад

@Stephen Smith Hey, no spoilers - I want to see how the ensuing chaos unfolds for myself!

@ryantapley6844 5 лет назад

Thomas Cook goes bankrupt Wendover: Excellent

@connormclernon26 5 лет назад

What’s the quickest way to become a millionaire? Start as a billionaire and run an airline -Richard Branson

@cbing4828 5 лет назад

Why not quote Richard Branson who actually said this?

@ReptilianLepton 5 лет назад

@@yaz2928 "Behead those who misattribute quotations." - Abraham Lincoln

@yaz2928 5 лет назад

@@ReptilianLepton Decapitation is too light of a punishment for people guilty of this serious crime. I suggest quartering by horses.

@kieran10202 5 лет назад

Translated into poor people langauage: "I'm either lying or a shitty business man, either way, lower my taxes you filthy peasants."

@operator0 5 лет назад

This is a different take on the old auto racing joke. How do you make a small fortune racing cars? Start with a large fortune.

@Properbellend 5 лет назад

The Civil Aviation Authority is paid for through bookings, each one has a contribution, so its not the Uk government picking up the bill.

@firozosman 5 лет назад

Anyone know how insurance companies figure in all of this? Would be interesting to know.

@reconx86 5 лет назад

@@firozosman What type of insurance?

@0000-z4z 5 лет назад

@@firozosman In Germany, every travel provider must have an insurance that pays the flight back and the hotel costs until the flight. For some reason, the government had the genius idea of limiting the costs for the insurances to 150 million Euros, which might be not enough. Actually, in the whole European Union, countries must commit the travel providers to such an insurance.

@cfglevy4771 5 лет назад

Actually, ATOL only covers package holidays, which indeed is covered through an extra £2.50 on each ticket. Flight-only holidays have been subsidised for by the UK government, as the CAA can’t just pass these repatriation charges on to airlines or passengers (all charges to industry have to be thoroughly consulted on first)

@Vapidity 5 лет назад

Remember, the UK Government will also be picking up the bill on staff aspects, like redundancy pay, and intern universal credit. We also have to take into account, we don’t know how Thomas Cook sorted out their pension scheme, and if it was an internal one, all that money will be lost, so the government will have to fork out for all that too. It isn’t just customers they are having to pay for. And with people complaining about the uk government not bailing Thomas Cook out, with the £200 millions, the chances are, that Thomas Cook, would go under next year, therefore they would have to pay the £600 million next year, and £200 million this year, meaning intern paying £800 million, as remember, the £200 million, was just a backstop to get them through this winter...

@zeronzemesh7718 5 лет назад

So the profitability of an airline depends totally on the price of oil. Sounds like a stable business.

@FinnishCrystal 5 лет назад

dante odinson chill, you refine oil to make petroleum, fuel and other stuff

@christodang 5 лет назад

Generally speaking, airline as a whole is a very razor thing margin profit industry. You may think flight tickets are expensive, but consider that less than 100 years ago, air travel was only for the wealthy 1% and you realize that prices have lowered astronomically and therefore so have margins. Not to mention that if they don't fill the plane past a certain %, they're losing money flying the route to honor the commitment they did to customers. Then comes other squabbles like airports charging different taxes because they're controlled by other companies/transit authorities. Or things like national carriers being forced to support non-profitable routes where not many people live because of regulation. It's a very difficult business for sure.

@dadrising6464 5 лет назад

The extinction of the middle class sure didnt help too.

@Trendyflute 5 лет назад

And consuming oil and gas destabilizes the only environment we have to live in! Sounds like a stable civilization! (spoiler: it's not)

@sciencenerd6623 4 года назад

Bobspineable Solar power, wind power, natural gas, geothermal, nuclear, coal Many non-oil options lmao

@metadragon7500 5 лет назад

“We are now bankrupt.”

@yuricherkasov 5 лет назад

Airplane crew wish you a pleasant flight (putting on parachutes)

@klobiforpresident2254 5 лет назад

@@yuricherkasov This is why flights to Schiphol are staffed with old men, it's not their first time jumping over the Netherlands. EDIT: Spelling of foreign words.

@mirzaahmed6589 5 лет назад

@@klobiforpresident2254 Schiphol

@y33t23 5 лет назад

Actually one time an airline went bankrupt and when the crew was informed, they told the passengers the plane wouldn't move until the passengers payed for the fuel and the crew, so in sum they had to pay thousands of dollars in order for the plane to move. They paid because they wanted to get back to their country.

@Joshy04 5 лет назад

Stop flying just drops straight away.

@eliaskarppi5408 5 лет назад

Ganjaman

@alephkasai9384 5 лет назад

Make a video on how they all went bankrupt

@almerindaromeira8352 5 лет назад

General and business aviation

@FELiPES101 5 лет назад

Military air power...

@BrianYYH 5 лет назад

Lol as long as Boeing and Airbus stay in business, Wendover should be fine.

@Jana-ho9mu 5 лет назад

Not all airlines are gonna go bankrupt tho

@masteronelew733 5 лет назад

Thomas Cook: Goes bankrupt mid flight Captain: Our fuel is now air.

@everettrailfan 5 лет назад

haha out in the middle of the atlantic lololol

@liayap1211 5 лет назад

i was in an island when they said Thomas Cook went bankrupt. They still allow us to go home. Then there’s the in-flight food, no wonder why they went bankrupt. People must’ve cursed them all the time

@NewBalance-pu8ft 4 года назад

@@liayap1211 Was the air food bad?

@gurseeritchahal1377 4 года назад

Our plane is now cloud

@nathanielw8234 5 лет назад

Outstanding job to the CAA. Honestly that's insane how they were able to do that stunt with the A380!

@julosx 5 лет назад

The CAA proves itself being the best airline company ever !

@waluigit-poses7767 4 года назад

While American Airlines chooses to delay planes because they wanted to party

@thomask940 4 года назад

The A380 cannot just land at an airport. Special conditions need to exist ...the planes are large and cumbersome, to say the least.

@CherryCherieLady 4 года назад

julosx Well, if it was an airline... I’d fly.

@Ayrshore 2 года назад

@@thomask940 wait until you try fuelling one!

@hat9958 5 лет назад

*airline goes bankrupt* : few hour delay american airlines: *3 day delay because they just want to for fun*

@jtlovescodelyoko 5 лет назад

They would do that

@mi12no 5 лет назад

Only if you're flying on standby

@k1productions87 5 лет назад

And then there's United. Nevermind standby, even if you are one of the normal passengers, booked well in advance, seat confirmed, actually ON THE PLANE and IN YOUR SEAT... they can still kick you off the plane FORCEFULLY for.... reasons? Oh, and NEVER fly United if you have a layover. They WILL leave your ass behind

@tsalvo9290 5 лет назад

@@mi12no nah, I was flying home, and they just canceled my flight for no apparent reason, and wouldn't put me on their next flight. They instead put me on a flight 2 days later.

@Recessionist 5 лет назад

Actually I am super impressed by the level of competency displayed by the folks over at the CAA. You would think that in such extraordinary circumstances as the collapse of a carrier the expected level of service would drop significantly - not in this case - some people at the CAA thought to themselves "we can't have Brits waiting abroad more than a few hours" and in advance of Thomas Cook's collapse put everything in motion to ensure that their passengers were merey delayed.

@gracecalis5421 5 лет назад

Airplane: **enters airspace of Europe** Bank Account: _THIS IS AN AVENGERS LEVEL THREAT_

@zogworth 5 лет назад

'Government can't do anything effectively.' CAA: Hold my beer.

@camo8369 5 лет назад

I know right! Everyone hates UK government but they do such smart things all the time wtf

@jameskinard 5 лет назад

People hate politicians but love the beaurocracy, they make the world go round

@suprememax4948 5 лет назад

@@camo8369 they dont hate the adminstrating agencies - just the idiotic political lawmakers and rightly so

@wintrwunderland 5 лет назад

The thing is, if Thomas Cook wasn't actually declaring bankruptcy, then the CAA would've lost many millions of pounds.

@Claro1993 5 лет назад

How’s that for Brexit?

@FederationStarShip 5 лет назад

“This video was made possible by Thomas Cook”

@NarendraWicaksono 4 года назад

Get your free repatriation flight by using the link in the description

@chl_ca 4 года назад

"Thomas Cook was made possible by this video"

@supernt7852 4 года назад

I mean it's not wrong, without Thomas Cook being bankrupt, there's no content for this video. r/woooosh me lol

@israelnava4481 5 лет назад

10:00 why is she holding her suitcase like that ?😭

@n3coreGames 5 лет назад

Hahaha

@raaamenoodleboop 5 лет назад

Omg Lol 😂

@codycast 5 лет назад

Man you must have been watching that video CLOSLY. I went right to that timemark and didn’t see anything even while trying to

@scortexfire 5 лет назад

*I DON'T KNOW.*

@ouassimzayani8806 5 лет назад

It rolls better that way .i have a simular peoblem with my case if i roll it the normal way it wont move fast

@jackswanson6718 5 лет назад

Hey Sam, just wanted to say I'm super happy I found your channel three years ago. Your content was great then, but you've taken everything to another level, especially in this past year. Your videos are entertaining, in-depth, and incredibly well researched (I also super appreciate the sources you note in your videos). HAI--while filled with jokes and puns--also has this level of high production, and I'm so happy whenever either channel posts. Also, Extremities has quickly become my favorite podcasts, and you're inspiring me to better myself and learn more about the world and how it operates. My apologies for the long post, but I just wanted to say that the work you and everyone else puts in at Wendover is extremely appreciated.

@Dave_Sisson 5 лет назад

Thanks for writing that, you saved me time as I was going to say something similar myself. Everything produced by Wendover Enterprises manages the rare combination of being both consistently accurate and consistently entertaining. He is rapidly becoming my favourite RU-vidr and podcaster.

@muslim1024 5 лет назад

Brilliant as always You always help me out to figure out the world around

@NotQuiteFirst 5 лет назад

No it wasn't Brilliant this time, it was Shopify

@SirJeff 4 года назад

Aviation industry: doing well COVID-19: imma 'bout to end this guy's whole career

@astrocat9096 4 года назад

lol savage as fuck

@bradenboyko 5 лет назад

They’re bankrupt because I keep ordering free drinks lol

@soupenjoyer6173 5 лет назад

Braden Boyko “hey can I get a Diet Coke with the can” *oh god what have you done* *engines power off*

@eliasfeleke7920 5 лет назад

@@soupenjoyer6173 made my day had the same expirience flying in Cali the flight attendant was like 😦😧😟😐😒

@oklahomadepartmentofaerosp6119 5 лет назад

Come to Oklahoma. Zero bankruptcy!

@jackfrozzt6362 5 лет назад

The most overpriced luxury in an aircraft ever lol

@lolyperez4892 5 лет назад

Braden Boyko just the ‘evil’ doers, taking down America, one airline at a time, people one at a time, Country one at a time time, one lie, to next, disaster after disaster, there the smartest in the room, they always have to remind us, were beneath there intelligent, don’t even deserve to live, next to there supremeness, oh....excuse me, I’m gonna vomit 🤮

@Literarydilettante 5 лет назад

Jet in India also went belly up in 2019

@mikeoxsmal8022 5 лет назад

@@mlx39996 nó it was large

@anantrelan4071 5 лет назад

nobody cares about India bro....

@Styyxie 5 лет назад

@@mlx39996 it was larger that Monarch, Adria, XL, Aigle Azur and Cobalt

@MambaUzumaki 5 лет назад

@@mlx39996 if an airline with 100 airplanes is considered "big enough" To be mentioned in the video, then I don't understand how an airline with 125 airplanes and 225 ordered airplanes is considered a small one, it wasn't even a low cost carrier either.

@namenamename390 5 лет назад

Yeah but that's not relevant for the topic they wanted to discuss

@Reddit-Incognito 5 лет назад

Aight, Malaysian here, so Malaysia and The Brits have a real good relationships especially in Aviation, so that's why the Malaysian government and Malaysia Airlines agreed on using their almost retired A380s for charter flights.

@Oli-Johnson 5 лет назад

Glad to see we still have some friends around the world!

@tiadaid 5 лет назад

Not so much Malaysian government, but MAS has extra capacity because the Umrah season hasn't started yet. MAS's charter division is well known, actually.

@tryingmybest206 5 лет назад

who cares?

@tryomama 5 лет назад

@@tryingmybest206 I care

@damani662 5 лет назад

Hope MAS can recover it debt... I felt sad to MAS because it being riddle by debt and political thing

@k.rahimi4969 4 года назад

me: "Go to sleep, you need to work tomorrow." Also me: "But why do airlines go bankrupt???"

@kasenratliff1832 4 года назад

i can relate

@Infinite-in9nm 4 года назад

*feels targeted*

@azazelonline 5 лет назад

airline: shuts down wendover productions: *_hmm_*

@GGanon 5 лет назад

is that a thousand foot krutch picture?

@nicholasbenge2596 5 лет назад

It’s free real estate

@grdprojekt 5 лет назад

*yes please*

@TheTitanJesus 5 лет назад

Brain dead joke structure

@IsraelCube 5 лет назад

Last time I was this early, Pan Am still existed.

@nickrenda9985 5 лет назад

Last time I was this early, Germany was still split

@fabianreusch4870 5 лет назад

@@nickrenda9985 in two or in two hundred?

@cac_deadlyrang 5 лет назад

Fabian Reusch Yes

@fabianreusch4870 5 лет назад

@@cac_deadlyrang speech 100

@xanpenguin754 5 лет назад

Last time I was this early TWA still existed.

@mtsik251 5 лет назад

I feel this question hasn’t been answered: What went wrong with these particular airlines? How did other European airlines survive? According to the video, they all face similar challenges.

@MichaelGGarry 5 лет назад

The other airlines don't focus just on long-range cheap flights, like most of these did. Also Europe has a long list of flag-carriers who attract more custom simply because they are the flag carrier. I would rather fly Lufthansa than AirBerlin, for example. In fact, come to think of it, I think I have only ever flown with 2 non-flag carrier airlines across the whole world - BMI (now dead) in the UK and Jetstar (as mentioned in this very video) out of Singapore......Whereas I have flown a quite a few flag-carriers - KLM, Singapore Airlines, Malaysian, BA, Emirates, Air Canada, Sabena (Belgium, now also RIP).......

@shazkhan85 5 лет назад

These are all low cost airlines, mainly operate from side airports, slight changes in the prices of fuel or any other operational resources required, can set their whole budget off. They have to keep their air fares low, if there is not much of a difference then passengers would prefer to fly with flag ship airlines as they let you carry more baggage & other perks. My bet is on Norwegian airline, next one to be doomed.

@Heldarion 5 лет назад

@@shazkhan85 That may hold for other airlines but Adria Airways was never cheap, far from it in fact, and it consistently struggled, kept afloat mostly because it was owned by the state, until the last 5 or so years. The private owner that acquired it then was even worse though and literally ran it into the ground.

@shazkhan85 5 лет назад

@@Heldarion Can't say anything about that, as i had no prior knowledge about the facts you stated. I think apart of few state run airliners, most of them are struggling now a days, mainly because of extra (uneccessary) staff & other mis-management. Still they are trying to keep it operational in the name of national pride + elected govt(political parties) don't want to be blamed for such thing. First they try to privatise it, so blame is on private sector in case of fall, or they keep pumping tax payers money into it.

@cyrilchui2811 5 лет назад

Many major airlines are not that profitable neither. Major airlines has the benefit of government backing in many cases, better financial backing/facilities, but most important of all, have the benefits of running business class. If you check another video it will explain to you how airline makes their money, business and 1st class accounted for 80% if I remember correctly. Budget airlines pick up all the low tier passengers, large in volume, certainly praise by consumers (until it went bust of course), and perhaps get a slightly biassed image in the press and investor community.

@4wheeldrifting 4 года назад

If airlines are living and dying by fuel prices, then it means they are hanging on by less than 3% to start with since fuel prices only make up 3% of ticket prices. If this is true, why wouldn’t budget airlines just buy fuel futures to flatten this risk?

@Macusercom 5 лет назад

"The CIA will rebook the passengers." The Central Intelligence Airline exists. I knew it!

@lwl2034 5 лет назад

he said CAA ( Civil Aviation Authority) isn't it?

@Macusercom 5 лет назад

@@lwl2034 Yeah, he did. Just kidding here because it sounded similar 😛

@lwl2034 5 лет назад

@@Macusercom umm what if u wanna make jokes about that u should bold the *CIA* like this

@C-64 5 лет назад

이왜레 not that it matters

@Shaktimaanyt24 5 лет назад

They actually had one, for black/covert operations.

@corporalsilver6981 5 лет назад

Ryan Air's profit graph is about as stable as their landings... *bad dum tis*

@muhammadfadhiil5992 5 лет назад

Ju berubah seng sm nih di f th jfuohrykvhkvfgkomu

@Japaneseak47 4 года назад

r/ijusthadastroke

@goatseatsoatsk2255 4 года назад

Airlines: You cannot defeat Oil prices: I know I can't, but he can... Corona: Hey what's up guys Airlines: no... not him

@Aetherian1 4 года назад

I work at Manchester airport. That day when all the outbound Thomas Cook flights were stuck on the ground and the repats were forced into the flight schedule was absolute chaos. Every shop and restaurant was packed with people sitting about, innocent information desk employees were barraged with abuse, armed police were out in full force. One passenger told me he was going to miss a funeral, another was on a flight with Jet2 that was delayed because of the mess and had mere hours to get to another country to see a dying relative. To this very day people turn up for flights they booked months ago with Thomas Cook and demand to board a nonexistent flight. The Thomas Cook staff were not always the nicest. Honestly, many of them were arrogant and belligerent. But neither they nor any of the passengers, deserved to get reamed by idiots too proud to wind down a falling company gently before it entirely smashed. An apt metaphor for an airline that will never land again, I suppose.

@theq4602 5 лет назад

Railroads be like: "I've been looking forward to this."

@jesusgonzalez6715 5 лет назад

Funny thing is: All those American business pax in aviation? Yeah, they're taking the train in Europe...

@TwoWholeWorms 5 лет назад

@@jesusgonzalez6715 Well. Where the trains exist. I predict this exact bubble bursting in the 30s or 40s for low-cost train services. :/

@jesusgonzalez6715 5 лет назад

@@TwoWholeWorms Why would "low cost train services" go bust? Like, how would that work? Most railways are state owned because they provide a valuable service everybody needs...

@luismedina5792 5 лет назад

same for ships

@christiansouthwick4712 5 лет назад

TRANSATLANTIC RAILWAY. PLEASE. I'M ON MY KNEES BEGGING FOR THIS.

@Pokekid2597 5 лет назад

The one time I’m glad my country's Malaysian airline is mentioned

@User-tp9bh 5 лет назад

Air Asia too

@AmanKhoo 5 лет назад

Let’s make this section as malaysian community lol 😂

@mirul6120 5 лет назад

lolll fellow malaysian ahaha

@naimshukri8075 5 лет назад

Our own company mentioned twice ✌️✌️

@aditya3david 5 лет назад

It's a nice airline. I have flown them great staff

@thulx3997 5 лет назад

Basically, Thomas Cooked itself, along with some of the other airlines.

@sagebrushrepair 5 лет назад

"A Richard Branson quote would go quite well here" - Richard Branson

@v44n7 5 лет назад

Business opportunities are like buses, there's always another one coming - Richard Branson There you are

@ewanerd 5 лет назад

That A380 looked sick at Manchester. You had the HiFly, Malaysian and Emirates A380 all at once. It was amazing.

@SnoopyDoofie 5 лет назад

Rule #1 to starting an airline company: Buy a fuel company first.

@groovymotion5706 5 лет назад

Yes, buy a large fuel tank and fill it up when the price dips! 😀

@vaibhav3874 5 лет назад

This might be a stupid question, but why? (please be specific)

@CPar926 5 лет назад

Vaibhav , it’s a hedge against volatility in fuel prices. If you own your own refinery you have greater control over the cost to fly your planes. A lot of the major US airlines did that in the late 2000s/early 2010s IIRC

@mirzaahmed6589 5 лет назад

Delta does own a refinery. However it's not a necessity. Futures contracts can lock in fuel prices, even if there market price increases.

@vaibhav3874 5 лет назад

@@CPar926 Why own a fuel company simply to support your airline company when you can own a fuel company for profit? Or do these oil companies under airline companies operate both for outside consumers (profit) and themselves?

@kunaljoshi8038 5 лет назад

Jet Airways an Indian airways also went bankrupt in July 2019

@AditVats 5 лет назад

Our businesses go bust usually due to red tape and corrupt and incompetent management.

@kunaljoshi8038 5 лет назад

@@AditVats No deny in that!

@rohithkumarsp 5 лет назад

My friends worked there.

@lolboi7434 5 лет назад

Dem Indian mafia's money is running out lol

@IAmSaahir 5 лет назад

That was a really bad shutdown Jet Airways was a good airline

@esparda07 5 лет назад

10:00 That lady with the red luggage just wants to see the world burn.

@kadartamaska 4 года назад

I'm glad I'm not he only one who noticed

@mwbgaming28 4 года назад

Shes the kind of person who would ask to see the world's manager

@BadassBobY 4 года назад

Karen spotted

@JimmyWatchMovie 5 лет назад

I work in the trucking industry and there some interesting parallels in that sector as well. Might be worth researching for one of your videos.

@thenotoriousjj00 5 лет назад

I EDITED THIS SO THE REPLIES MAKE NO SENSE.

@odeiraoloap 5 лет назад

I mean, have you seen the *gazillion* charges they demand for everything else? Almost all of Ryanair's revenue came from *ancillary fees...*

@msquaredmedia8717 5 лет назад

Yup. Booked my first Ryanair flight. Tried to change a passenger name as they hadn't changed their married name on their passport yet, £180..... More than the cost of the 4 return tickets... Safe to say she changed her passport instead 😂

@emu.2219 5 лет назад

@@msquaredmedia8717 oh wow. You know I was surprised but when I called them up and refused to end the call until a solution was reached they did a name change on my boarding pass for free. What's crazier was I didn't even pay for the tickets, my boss did. Obviously the person on the other end of the line had KPIs to hit and couldn't just be on the phone for hours serving one person.

@apinakapina 5 лет назад

I'm often flying on Wizzair, Norwegian or airBaltic. Of these, the first tries the hardest to get some extra cash from you, but it's not too annoying. Unless there's some kind of fuck up, and your ticket bar code is not available, which is going to cost 30-40 euro just to get it printed out. Seat reservations are always extra 7-15 euro, but that I know already. I'm actually more pissed off at our "real" airline Finnair, and their confusing pricing model. The same route can run from 100 to 450 euros, even for the same month. And these lines are operated by a subcontractor.

@Jablicek 5 лет назад

@@msquaredmedia8717 Wouldn't it have been cheaper to rebook the flight? I've had similar problems in the past - rebooking's almost always the cheaper option.

@its2point072 5 лет назад

How do airlines start in the first place? As in, how do they get money to buy their first few planes, how do they get into airports, etc

@matthew8153 5 лет назад

2. oh Investors with deep pockets. Just like any other business.

@MsJubjubbird 5 лет назад

THey have a lot of money. They also have to apply with aviation authorities outlining how they will operate ect.

@barbatvs8959 5 лет назад

They say you need a PhD for your point of view to be expert, so why is it the first experts never had them? Because you don't need them to be an expert.

@klobiforpresident2254 5 лет назад

The easiest way to make millions is to start out as a.millionaire and start a business.

@Abdi-uy1kh 5 лет назад

Klobi for President Someone once said, the easiest way to become a millionaire is to start off as a billionaire and open an airline.

@turbofan450 4 года назад

"2019 was the year of slaughter". 2020: hold my corona beer

@RundfunkerOnline 5 лет назад

You forgot Germania which also went bankrupt in 2019

@patrickhanft 5 лет назад

it went bankrupt in february, not in september or october, so et needed to stay unmentioned ;-)

@johnclayton4946 5 лет назад

I read this comment wrong and I thought Germany went Bankrupt in 2019! Hahahahahahahahahahaha

@Lankyblankman 5 лет назад

@@johnclayton4946 As long as they keep accepted every beating pulse it will happen eventually.

@mirzaahmed6589 5 лет назад

He mentioned his list was not exhaustive. A complete list would make the video very long.

@C4shaRaM4 5 лет назад

Yeah same for the Flymar Republic Dont worry a better ones coming up it's called the Third Flight!

@80sfreak14 5 лет назад

I was going to do homework but......Wendover upload, sorry Ms Lee.

@yengsabio5315 5 лет назад

It's an almost 12 min video! So take it as a break from your homework. Cheers me mate!

@thestratigic1631 5 лет назад

Same. Sorry Mr. Colgan

@Aschraffff 5 лет назад

Sorry Mr. Grose, I still have tomorrow to finish this essay.

@suriwang5284 5 лет назад

= MY SCIENCE TEACHERS NAME IS ALSO MS LEE AND SAME :0

@80sfreak14 5 лет назад

@@suriwang5284 lmao Ms Lee is my Geography teacher and she is a fat slob she yells at us for no reason lol

@Dezbo 5 лет назад

Planes: exist Wendover productions: *I T ‘ S F R E E R E A L E S T A T E*

@danielkanayama6313 5 лет назад

d4 no complaints tho

@juno6994 5 лет назад

Ah, it's that really funny and really unique meme, noone uses, very funny. Haha!

@ThatLazyyGuy 5 лет назад

Able559 ikr I’ve blown away by creativity (｀_´)ゞ

@Hauntercry 5 лет назад

Just fucking stop

@KasabianFan44 5 лет назад

And if you look to your left, you’ll see this fucking comment again

@tylershahery9623 3 года назад

With a world economy more robust and connected than ever. That didn’t age well.

@funny-video-YouTube-channel 5 лет назад

The Airline *competition in Europe is intense.* High speed trains compete on the price too. Then there are buses across Europe too.

@niranjanbasarkar 5 лет назад

Jet Airways in India in 2019

@ayush1ism 5 лет назад

Kingfisher airlines Sahara airlines Deccan airlines Archana airlines Paramount airways MDLR airways Air Pegasus Kalinga air Zoom air

@kumbaya69421 5 лет назад

@@ayush1ism but jet airways wwas massive

@mirzaahmed6589 5 лет назад

He did say his list was not exhaustive.

@prashr4075 5 лет назад

You need to add Air India to the list. If not for Indian Govt's tax payer money. Things would have been bust 5 yrs bck. 2000cr loss every year. Not a good sign

@joel9240 5 лет назад

@@prashr4075 Oh definitely. I must admit I found them to be hilariously old-fashioned though I did enjoy the flight, though it amazed me how dated they could make relatively new aircraft look.

@sayainsights 5 лет назад

In India : Jet Airways already collapsed in Early 2019, Air India on verge of collapsing by 2020

@IkarimTheCreature 5 лет назад

This video focuses on European airlines and the seasonal economics behind them, not Asian Airlines.

@arjunkharbanda 5 лет назад

@@IkarimTheCreature reason is same low cashflow

@davilimalol4612 5 лет назад

Avianca also died a year ago and they also were low cost flight

@alphestanley7194 5 лет назад

Malaysia airlines too

@lcmiracle 5 лет назад

@@alphestanley7194 I'd think for that one I'm more surprised that it survived for this long after two disasters

@HingleMacCringleberry 5 лет назад

Somehow i came across your series and even though I originally wasn’t into the fine print of aviation the way you explain everything is addictive and easy to follow. Great docuseries

@ParamDeshpandepass123 5 лет назад

Jet Airways also went Bankrupt in 2019

@jankomirovic2866 5 лет назад

Really?

@Khetamine 5 лет назад

They were gay anyway

@noncelord 5 лет назад

@@Khetamine mega gay*

@fighter5583 5 лет назад

What kind of name is Jet Airways? Sounds like whoever thought of the name was pretty lazy.

@martinraulvillalba 5 лет назад

@@fighter5583 Indian carrier. Not the nicest of airlines, but they flew, and they weren't exactly small.

@darthreaper6830 4 года назад

"2019 was the year of slaughter" *laughs in 2020*

@steveworrell 5 лет назад

Wow. I've been a fan of Wendover for a long time now but this video is incredible in almost every way, research, production, entertainment etc, etc. You guys are really doing it. Keep it up.

@99dazemusic 5 лет назад

“we are experiencing some minor spells of bankruptcy, the aircraft will be deactivated promptly"

@maxon1672 5 лет назад

This video is exactly the right amount of interesting. 👌🏼

@floridaspotter 5 лет назад

Exactly half as interesting as his other ones Jk it was good

@JohanHerdiPutra 5 лет назад

It's twice as interesting

@user-jh6vc3cb2b 5 лет назад

On that note, can a video be too interesting?

@TheoHiggins 5 лет назад

Aw man, I used to love staring at the fancy cool blue Thomas Cook jets from my bright orange Easyjet flight

@adamdavison64 5 лет назад

Theo Higgins I think the blue planes belong to TUI and they’re still flying 😊

@blanco7726 5 лет назад

Adam Davison or KLM

@iafozzac 5 лет назад

That moment when you live in Europe and you have a flight booked for late October

@raphaelforkel7759 5 лет назад

Me too. But I'm flying Lufthansa. If THEY go belly up out of nowhere, that would spell disaster for all of Europe for a few weeks. And especially Germany. Last year I've tried to book a flight with WOW air, only to have them cancel it a week before the flight. A few additional weeks later we've all learned why.

@VeniVidiAjax 5 лет назад

I always book KLM, and Transavia (owned by KLM) as low budget airliner. Transavia is still way more expensive than Ryanair and easyJet... but then again it’s a better airline. Not gonna book a flight with picobelloAirlines... that’s asking for troubles!

@Jablicek 5 лет назад

Imagine booking a Norwegian flight - at any time in the last two years. Very much nail-biting, seat-of-your-pants flying.

@kgw72 5 лет назад

If you fly on a big company (AirFrance, KLM, Lufthansa, Iberia...) you shouldn't have any problem. Probably. Quite sure.

@SuperNuclearUnicorn 2 года назад

I love watching these videos in 2022 when airlines have gone through basically the worst case scenario, then started to recover, then had another horrible scenario where a country that is a major oil producer went to war and to economically hurt that country most other countries stopped buying their oil. From the most profitable 5 years ever to less than 3 years that have destroyed airlines...

@tzwacdastag8223 5 лет назад

1:12 Nailed that French Accent

@cybersquire 5 лет назад

Sam is one classy bloke

@jlust6660 5 лет назад

Nailed with a sledgehammer that is

@newmono7341 5 лет назад

Airlines: Are going bankrupt Sam from Wendover: **crying**

@ImStevan 5 лет назад

1:03 a small *Chypriot* carrier

@tallozaguy 5 лет назад

Good one

@firozosman 5 лет назад

Prolly coz they're basically ships. 😆

@RoamingHeathen 5 лет назад

Ugh, yeh that was annoying

@CinemaDemocratica 5 лет назад

Oh you've done it now, stevan. I mean, what, didn't you hear that ... wait for it ... "language is fluid"?!?!? :D :D :D

@ImStevan 5 лет назад

@@CinemaDemocratica a word has it's pronounciation. You can't just alter the pronounciation and say it's still correct

@artisticbagel 5 лет назад

You should make a video about the logistics of Tim Horton's. They have locations even in the most remote northern settlements. Would be very interesting to see how they supply them, how they can still sell things at an affordable price.

@ntnwwnet 5 лет назад

@ 10:02: wtf is that woman doing with her (red) luggage?! It has FOUR sets of wheels and she’s using NONE of them.

@planedudea380 5 лет назад

I was looking for this comment XD

@barbatvs8959 5 лет назад

Maybe to preserve them or to get exercise.

@Jeffron71 5 лет назад

LOL

@wilfredfizzlebang6181 5 лет назад

Phenomenal. She is a legend

@FortuneZer0 5 лет назад

Flashback to 6 year old me watching the news on the grounding of swissair.

@lucastazitu 5 лет назад

Avianca Brasil also went bankrupt in 2019

@ctusiard9755 5 лет назад

Avianca Holdings as a whole has gone into reestructuring.

@sohopedeco 5 лет назад

RIP best airline in Brazil.

@cockatoo010 5 лет назад

@@ctusiard9755 Avianca Brazil was not a part of Avianca Holdings. It was owned by Synergy Group, which has a pretty big stake on Avianca, but doesn't totally own it. They had licensed the Avianca name and livery though. They were aloso on Star Alliance and codeshared with Avianca. It's true that Avianca Holdings is restructuring wuite drastically as proffits have dropped to the point that they had to move their brand-new 787-9 (N797AV) to Abu Dhabi and store it there until it has enough money to operate it. And that's no wonder. Viva Air has been eating up most of the Air traffic in Colombia from Avianca and LAtam Colombia.

@thegameproyect720 5 лет назад

anthony2154 well, AVIANCA is a Colombian airline and it is (arguably) the biggest airline in Latin America (some say after Latam Airlines) with main hubs in several countries, flying intercontinental and with way more than 2 aircrafts.

@originalsinc 4 года назад

Q: How many airlines will go bankrupt in 2020? A: Half of the airlines. The rest of airlines will go bankrupt in 2021

@Aviatial 5 лет назад

Airlines: *Does anything* Wendover: *_LETS MAKE A VIDEO ON THIS!!_*

@kingchicken8232 5 лет назад

Hey did you hear of that airline that flew an airplane?

@Bob_Lob_Law 5 лет назад

*WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!*

@kylel.9575 5 лет назад

Airlines: Go bunkrupt Wendover: *new content*

@Aviatial 5 лет назад

KingChicken wow! Great video idea!

@kingchicken8232 5 лет назад

@@Aviatial thank you, I taught myself to think like Wendover

@mohammedomer3529 5 лет назад

Arlines: Exists Wendover: Hippity Hoppity, you’re now my property

@ahhcaffeine9948 5 лет назад

the fuck

@CharalamposKoundourakis 5 лет назад

What the fuck does this mean?

@gia9551 5 лет назад

The responses to this absolute fuckery of a comment are gold

@mirzaahmed6589 5 лет назад

Stupid meme.

@agentc7020 5 лет назад

Charalampos Koundourakis it fucking means wendover likes to make aviation vids

@lumberc 5 лет назад

Finally a man that can answer the unanswered questions

@buffalo6524 5 лет назад

Wendover: *most people buy airline tickets about 5 months before their flight* Mr bean: *Am I a joke to you?*

@JohnDoe-vz7ff 5 лет назад

Ugh. Overused shitty meme is overused and shitty. Please stop

@mirzaahmed6589 4 года назад

What?

@pkj6684 4 года назад

@@JohnDoe-vz7ff overused? maybe bad? that depends on who you are, you're the minority on RU-vid

@BeachLookingGuy 5 лет назад

Wendover productions: makes video about air planes. Comments section: hE oNlY mAkEs ViDeOs AbOuT aIr PlAnEs tehehe

@Jayfive276 5 лет назад

Until you stop with this greentext shit and talk in real sentences you're part of the problem.

@dsnodgrass4843 5 лет назад

they're good videos about airplanes Brent

@BeachLookingGuy 5 лет назад

@@Jayfive276 part of the irony

@Sam-vy8ye 5 лет назад

The CAA’s response to the Thomas Cooke collapse gives me a new appreciation for the civil service

@GrandMarshalGarithos 5 лет назад

Sam Yeah I thought that was quite impressive, expensive for the taxpayer though.

@KuK137 5 лет назад

It should give you appreciation to the EU, because EU mandated such operations as part of passenger insurance scheme. Thatcher/May/Bozo UK would be perfectly content with letting hundreds of thousands of people rot, after all, they could just pull themselves by bootstraps back to UK, eh?

@Wolfsterrr 5 лет назад

I know we constantly make fun of Sam for the aviation videos, but low key they’re honestly my favorite haha

@JoaoPessoa86 5 лет назад

As an airline employee who flies almost exclusively on standby, those valleys are the only time I can get anywhere

@venomq2409 5 лет назад

Fulano de Tal I'm glad I don't do that shit anymore. It's a class below economy unless you have a descent onload priority, access to F/J/P or, as you say, fly low peak. Besides all of that, live near your home airport.

@rachels209 4 года назад

I don’t bother with staff travel with a family. Plan ahead, buy cheap cattle class tickets and save yourself an early death through stress of getting stuck somewhere and then having to buy full fare tickets to get back anyway so you don’t lose your job. Yeah it’s all nice n rosy for all who envy us with staff travel. They don’t see the pitfalls.

@jamesgilvarry 5 лет назад

Planes : exist Wendover productions : write that down! Write that down!

@PlaneSpottingBerlin 5 лет назад

Charles the French? ;D

@randomnameindeed 5 лет назад

😂😂👌

@Hauntercry 5 лет назад

Stop

@Cormi98 5 лет назад

Wendover: 'A small Chipriot airline' Cypriots: Am I a joke to you?

@simon199418 5 лет назад

dude we are a joke to the whole world:D

@eequalsmc2sqrd59 5 лет назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 do I amuse you

@dean6793 5 лет назад

2018:Don't just book it, Thomas Cook it! 2019:Don't just book it, Thoma Coo-oh wait you can't.

@andrewtaco 4 года назад

Breaking news: South African Airways has just filed for bankruptcy. -Dec 6, 2019

@pridefulIguana 5 лет назад

Just when you thought he ran out of ways to talk about planes/airlines

@49Ibanez 5 лет назад

Nobody: Wendover: "You see..."

@barbatvs8959 5 лет назад

So they can't bring forth interesting topics of their own choosing?

@ziggy8253 5 лет назад

@zes3813 5 лет назад

wrg,idts

@schrodingersduck 4 года назад

9:49 Sneaky FlyBe appearance 4 months too early. It's like a Goosebumps book about a cursed camera that shows you who's about to die

@BritishAPT 4 года назад

Yea rip Flybe

@MrDStylzz 4 года назад

Also, at 9:56, out of 4 airlines shown, 3 are bankrupt now, crazy times...

@johnmurphy5689 5 лет назад

*Looks at Norwegian Airlines* "Think we found the next victim of the culling season."

@Hei_Sann326 5 лет назад

Our government would save it I reckon. Else too many people would lose their jobs and our prime minister would lose face

@landlord5552 5 лет назад

Hope not I bought tickets for February and March to Tenerife.

@dstblj5222 5 лет назад

@@landlord5552 You will be fine then, but next october, well their not looking to good.

4 года назад

Doubt it. Norwegian is a pretty established airliner there. There is SAS but Norwegian is big there, too.

@dstblj5222 4 года назад

@ Except up until fairly recently they were massively loss-making, and its still not clear they will make money or at least not lose more then they made this summer, this winter.