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Why So Many English Teachers Just Can't Do China 

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China... some people love it and others hate it. English teachers are no exception and some just can't do it. I often find that this is why ....
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@KadrianThomas
@KadrianThomas 9 месяцев назад
Hi, Ben. It's been a minute! I always enjoy listening to your perspective. Those who have never been to China and only know about it through their 4-inch screens will never truly understand the beauty of living and working there. As you said, 'nowhere is perfect,' and I agree. I've experienced many places, including the USA, and nowhere, not even my home country, has ever given me the peace of mind that I've experienced while being in China. Stay blessed, Ben.
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas 9 месяцев назад
That's a very interesting point... I always slept very well in China for some reason (actual sleep not speaking metaphorically.) It probably has something to do with that. I hope you're doing well, Kadrian! It's crazy to see you've been subscribed 6 years. In many ways that seems like yesterday... but also a lifetime ago!
@Gooders478
@Gooders478 5 месяцев назад
@@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas Alright Ben, if you find your life lacks structure as an ennui suffering rich bastard, how about building an Earthship in Uruguay or somewhere and turn it into a "Ben Teaches English" school? If you're going to go back to teaching I imagine it must be difficult to respond to instruction when one could easily afford to have one's troublesome boss "disappeared", as it were? Just a thought old boy, I've been a follower of this channel under different handles almost from the start and it's my favourite channel on travel/finance. Cheers for all your hard work.
@korymalone6591
@korymalone6591 6 месяцев назад
Yo! Didn't know you were still kicking these videos. Glad to see your back. Hope you keep 'em coming.
@MegaMerlin2011
@MegaMerlin2011 3 месяца назад
My personal experience after leaving in 2022. Job requirements have increased to the point it feels like you need a BA in Education and a teaching "license" (not a TEFL). I see a lot of schools looking for science, math, history, or business teachers. I tried applying. They asked if I have a degree in those subjects. I have a degree in International Studies. They hang up the phone. It's interesting because the books have a lot of the content. Majority of expats have passed high school math, science, and history. You don't need to be a nuclear engineer to teach middle school science class. Yet that's pretty much what Chinese schools are asking for. Also, schools nowadays employ staff that don't know how to process the work permit or they have some other issues.
@JalomMatia
@JalomMatia 2 месяца назад
1-Schools want a teacher with a degree in the subject being taught because that is how they market to parents to get more students. 2-the top students in high school or even middle are above the level of what you probably learned in highschool. if it's been a few years since you graduated from highschool, will you be able to answer their question? unlikely. look online at example SAT/A-Level/AP exams for Maths, Physics or Chemistry and tell me you could answer all of those questions when a student asks you.
@user-bd2ge9ju6j
@user-bd2ge9ju6j 26 дней назад
Hai can you share recruiters for subject teacher, having a teaching license from my country, with 4 years experience please guys.
@what_Love_Drew_forth
@what_Love_Drew_forth 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the insight Ben!
@user-tm1rf6lv2f
@user-tm1rf6lv2f 4 месяца назад
Thank you for this. Very important message
@dalelangley6986
@dalelangley6986 11 дней назад
Love your videos Ben, please keep them rolling!
@ahme01381
@ahme01381 4 месяца назад
Thank you Ben for sharing it. Your videos are always the best ❤
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas 3 месяца назад
My pleasure!
@1NavyLT
@1NavyLT 9 месяцев назад
Hey, shipmate! Long time, no see, Ben. Glad you are well! Fair winds and following seas.
@AIdrisPalmer
@AIdrisPalmer 9 месяцев назад
Very clear Ben. Kudos.
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas 9 месяцев назад
Glad you think so!
@tc2334
@tc2334 7 месяцев назад
I've been teaching in China for over seven years. I love teaching, but stacking up a bunch of money has also been a great plus.
@j__.adam69
@j__.adam69 5 месяцев назад
How much is typical salary 😊
@tc2334
@tc2334 5 месяцев назад
@@j__.adam69 I live in Beijing. Typical salary for an English teacher here ranges from 20,000 to 35,000 RMB.
@eldnahwenetaerc
@eldnahwenetaerc 2 месяца назад
Do you need to speak Chinese?
@tc2334
@tc2334 2 месяца назад
@@eldnahwenetaerc To get started with a job teaching here? No, but if you do, you need to dedicate at least 20-30 minutes trimoorti Hypmsvutg
@tc2334
@tc2334 2 месяца назад
@@eldnahwenetaerc At work, no. In daily life outside of work, yes.
@PeterReefman
@PeterReefman 2 месяца назад
Agree. Been living in china for ten years now. It's not perfect, but nowhere is. In the big picture, i like being here more than anywhere else I've been to.
@bikebasket9594
@bikebasket9594 9 месяцев назад
Well said Sir.
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas 9 месяцев назад
I'm glad you liked it!
@tecumsehlittlebear8271
@tecumsehlittlebear8271 15 дней назад
China has a lot of really amazing and kind people. If it wasnt for them and their kindness, I dont think I would have lasted over there as a teacher.
@ScottAllis
@ScottAllis 9 месяцев назад
Other disclaimer, don't have any social media posts or quotes in the media related to China. That would be another concern if you have been quoted by the media discussing China.
@MrTraveller.
@MrTraveller. 9 месяцев назад
Thanks, great to see more of yours video. Teaching is China 🇨🇳 was ok. It’s what you make of it. Everyone has their own experience, views & opinions. Great old 5000 year old culture, good food , lots of job opportunities & things to see & do. With that being said. I prefer living in Taiwan 🇹🇼 But glad i got to work all over the world, see & compare places. Lots of job opportunities there for sure
@keganbennett6582
@keganbennett6582 5 месяцев назад
Cool video, make more content bro
@Hanna_Hoh
@Hanna_Hoh 9 месяцев назад
Yay, Ben’s back
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas 9 месяцев назад
You're far too kind.
@1adamgarcia2003
@1adamgarcia2003 9 месяцев назад
you have been working out, it seems. 😘😘🥰
@MyLifeThai371
@MyLifeThai371 8 месяцев назад
Hey Ben I had a question about getting a Skype phone number. 1) I paid for a Skype phone number, but it only lets me receive phone calls from the u.s.a., but doesn't let me call out. 2) I paid more money to get a subscription to call the u.s.a. and that works, and I can get 2 factor authentication by VOICE calls only. text messages do not work. Do I need to pay more money again for the text message upgrade???
@marcanthonyskidmore4131
@marcanthonyskidmore4131 9 месяцев назад
I have a ton of stories about China to share regarding teaching and living in China. How can I get in touch with you direct?
@haych6782
@haych6782 6 месяцев назад
Do they accept an online open uni degree in Saudi/ uae ? also does the degree have to be in English or could it be law/ business/ psychology etc ?
@justinenglish3660
@justinenglish3660 8 месяцев назад
Can you make a video about how AI is going to change the education industry/jobs market in general. Thanks!
@kristopherrobinson5793
@kristopherrobinson5793 8 месяцев назад
Can’t wait for your next video. Also, I’m debating on going abroad. In NC I technically have to teach for 3 years to get a renewable teaching license. I have my initial license. If I were to go abroad is there a way to meet the requirements or get around this? I’m not sure if there are specifics to these years but currently I’m treated like a BT where I have someone who I meet with weekly. Then I have to go BT meetings once a month. Just looking into this some because I really would like to go abroad.
@helouiseplezens6105
@helouiseplezens6105 4 дня назад
Hi check out remote ESL jobs at The Really Great Teacher Company
@TheSwordfish009
@TheSwordfish009 9 месяцев назад
Interesting revelation concerning Venezuela.... 😮
@hangingwiththegrlz4891
@hangingwiththegrlz4891 9 месяцев назад
I accepted a job in China, but Covid happened and then the requirements to go there increased. They wanted proof of my name? It became weird and I was unable to get it since my passport and other documents did not suffice, so I couldn't go.
@netnomad47
@netnomad47 9 месяцев назад
You got lucky. Go to Japan, South Korea, or Taiwan instead
@basicvince
@basicvince 6 месяцев назад
they want proof of absolutely everything. These rules existed before covid...long before covid
@helouiseplezens6105
@helouiseplezens6105 4 дня назад
Hi check out remote ESL jobs at The Really Great Teacher Company
@blank.9301
@blank.9301 Месяц назад
Just found this channel and wondering if there’s a video on the difference between some places where you need a degree to teach and others you don’t? Thanks
@blank.9301
@blank.9301 Месяц назад
I found on global work and travel that you don’t have to have a degree for some places in certain countries
@cartertrask6107
@cartertrask6107 9 месяцев назад
Freedom from high costs of living, freedom of being able to travel to other countries in the region easily and freedom of having potentially incredible students. Lots of 'freedoms' to be had in China.
@LeoDomiNations4988
@LeoDomiNations4988 9 месяцев назад
It's SOOOOOOOOO much better than the U.S. of Romerica.
@martinsinclair55
@martinsinclair55 6 месяцев назад
Any jobs teaching aviation English that you've heard about in China? 🤔
@barakmoss1691
@barakmoss1691 9 месяцев назад
Bro I’ve been trying to get in contact for a consult
@user-bz5io6ph8w
@user-bz5io6ph8w 9 месяцев назад
I've been in China since 2019 and I'm ready for a change but it just feel like every move out of China would be a step down in pay. Where else would viable?
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas 9 месяцев назад
It depends on your qualifications and a lot of other factors.
@darkvalue505
@darkvalue505 4 месяца назад
UAE, Saudi Arabia, Oman.
@Kahow11
@Kahow11 9 месяцев назад
Would love to hear more about the Venezuela convo and your own and others' experiences if you've got time 😊
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas 9 месяцев назад
Noted! Sure thing.
@ecologiesofmindfulness564
@ecologiesofmindfulness564 9 месяцев назад
Me too. I was born there and I’m told by family not to go back but this Chinese man would take his family there? Would love to hear more
@recordrabbit
@recordrabbit 9 месяцев назад
This is so true wherever you go. Politics will make you miserable. The Chinese people I've met are very nice. I just wonder if I could live there for 5-10 years at least because I'm a long-term teacher already established in a country where it's comfortable to live -- but lower salary than might be possible in China. Hmmm... If I were in my 20s, I'd just go and take a chance.
@kristopherrobinson5793
@kristopherrobinson5793 9 месяцев назад
Is teaching English abroad as paperwork intensive as it is in the USA?
@alonshalit5778
@alonshalit5778 9 месяцев назад
Yes, you’ll need to process a work visa which requires paperwork. The doc requirements for teachers in each country are different. You don’t need to process any docs in our homeland, only if you want to teach public schools K-12 which requires a bachelors in education/certification.
@kristopherrobinson5793
@kristopherrobinson5793 9 месяцев назад
@@alonshalit5778 I should have clarified better. In the USA for ESL you have a lot of paperwork like EL Plans. I was curious if there is a lot of paperwork within the workload of teaching abroad. I have a teaching license and bachelors degree and teach in the public school system here but I’m exploring my options abroad.
@alonshalit5778
@alonshalit5778 9 месяцев назад
@@kristopherrobinson5793 When you are overseas teaching esl it is very unlikely you will have to lesson plan or any other paperwork. What are EL plans? I am teaching in our homeland currently and never heard of anything like that. Also, I don’t recommend teaching esl abroad because it is an uphill battle to find a HIGH paying position but yes you can save money in a regular esl teaching contract(12 to 20k living like a college student) year end, if that is your end goal.
@kristopherrobinson5793
@kristopherrobinson5793 9 месяцев назад
@@alonshalit5778An EL Plan is also known as an LEP Plan. It sets in place a plan for EL Students to have things like accommodations and modifications in the USA. There is a lot of other paperwork too at least in my school district. I know some states are different and some districts are different. I’m currently looking to add various other subjects to my license too though. ESL isn’t the only thing I can teach it’s just what I currently teach.
@leannd9072
@leannd9072 9 месяцев назад
​@alonshalit5778 I'm teaching overseas, and we do lesson planning??? All of it ... Some ESL schools where I currently teach (hagwons) have a pre-set curriculum. I teach at in International school and I do all of my lesson planning. As most students in our schools are learning English there isn't an individual plan. As far as EL plan
@jordanduffy6589
@jordanduffy6589 9 месяцев назад
I taught in China for 5 years and spent all of Covid there . I stayed because of my students and the high salaries. I left 2 months ago , the teaching market there isn’t going to be stable for much longer due to the double reduction policy.
@jryanp
@jryanp 8 месяцев назад
Pardon me but what do you mean by the double reduction policy
@tc2334
@tc2334 7 месяцев назад
@@jryanp The double reduction policy is the Chinese government's attempt to cut down on the overload of work that Chinese kids have. So, basically, the government has required to schools to cut down on homework and for after-school academic training centers to close down. They've also started to place less emphasis on English-learning. As a result, training centers, which are the bulk of employers of English teachers are closing down/going underground.
@garycummingsjr.6896
@garycummingsjr.6896 9 месяцев назад
where you been man
@boyar1978
@boyar1978 6 месяцев назад
This is completely true. China is a great country to work in and Chinese people are some of the nicest and friendliest people you can meet.
@eamon3246
@eamon3246 2 месяца назад
If you love China so much, then why don't you marry China?
@lyell0930
@lyell0930 9 месяцев назад
I have so many friends in China. I don't teach there, but I used to briefly. I found most Chinese that I interacted with to be very friendly. I get what you're saying. As a US citizen, I don't agree with the US government (blue or red) on a lot of things. If I wouldn't want someone to "put me in the same box" as my government, then I shouldn't and don't treat Chinese the same way.
@_sparrowhawk
@_sparrowhawk 9 месяцев назад
"I found most Chinese that I interacted with to be very friendly. " You can say that about any country on Earth. The thing that bothered me about China was being gawked at 24/7 on the subway/bus/train as well as meeting highly educated people who were ALSO incredibly nationalistic and straight up racist. Yes, you can ignore those bad apples, but then again, why would you want to live in a 3rd world country that barely has internet access. You can make money all over the world, which is why Ben doesn't teach in China right now.
@lyell0930
@lyell0930 9 месяцев назад
@@_sparrowhawk Cool story. Have a great day!
@sajiijas9088
@sajiijas9088 9 месяцев назад
Hi Ben, Where are you teaching now? I am trying to find work in the middle east but no luck just yet.
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas 9 месяцев назад
I'm currently teaching in Iraq. Good luck with the job search!
@jamestessmer2430
@jamestessmer2430 4 месяца назад
had to watch in 1.5 speed
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas 3 месяца назад
I watch them at 2X before I post.
@jackepner9984
@jackepner9984 8 месяцев назад
If everyone felt their vote didn't matter, no one votes, and then it matters...
@nicetightsize8jeans
@nicetightsize8jeans 7 месяцев назад
It[s been a min missed you bud. I don't want to teach in China. I want to teach in Japan but I got rejected by AEON by the 3rd interview. Shit is brutal Might as well get my teaching license or MA Tesol at this point they want too much shit nowadays.
@hayleybarbara1589
@hayleybarbara1589 7 месяцев назад
Imo don't teach in Japan i have never heard of a single teacher being happy there and the pay is so low you will be poor overworked and unhappy.
@EcoFustionTV
@EcoFustionTV 6 месяцев назад
@@hayleybarbara1589 Agree. Even many youtubers who teach there say it's awful (unless MAYBE you get an American company/private school ran by non-Japanese), Even looking at job boards a lot only pay 250k-270k JPY a month, which is basically minimum wage, plus crazy long work hours.. This put me off, despite loving Japan. I can work as a university teacher in China for the same amount of pay and only work 2 days a week.
@helouiseplezens6105
@helouiseplezens6105 4 дня назад
Hi check out remote ESL jobs at The Really Great Teacher Company (live anywhere in the world while earning USD)
@seanmcgrady8688
@seanmcgrady8688 9 месяцев назад
I had a good time in China, personally. That said, the economy there is crashing pretty hard, and I wonder how that affects esl.
@nikolavojnovic6552
@nikolavojnovic6552 7 месяцев назад
How do you know that?
@Johnmitchell-qd3nw
@Johnmitchell-qd3nw 9 месяцев назад
10 years and counting....
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas 9 месяцев назад
Awesome!
@scottgresham6759
@scottgresham6759 2 месяца назад
China will be a tough gig if you're used to the political freedom many enjoy in the west.
@JeepLove
@JeepLove 23 дня назад
China is definitely not for everyone. Its not fully enjoyable like south east Asia. Pick a city in China that you will enjoy, I selected Beijing and the bad out weighed the good for me!!! Very little good in my opinion.
@cecilwampler8733
@cecilwampler8733 9 месяцев назад
First. Hooray!
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas 9 месяцев назад
Welcome back!
@timbradshaw5481
@timbradshaw5481 4 месяца назад
So the answer is, people can't do China because of politics? This is a terrible answer. Why bother wasting everybody's time with this kind of video. Why not actually go into the real reasons why foreigners don't like to work in china?
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas
@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas 3 месяца назад
Not "the" reason... but "a" reason. Do a video with your take... I'll watch and comment.
@timbradshaw5481
@timbradshaw5481 3 месяца назад
@@BenTeachesEnglishOverseas I'm not knowledgable enough to know the reasons for why people don't choose China. But from my experience and the experiences of every foreigner who I know well here, it's not to do with politics at all. But I guess it's how you define politics. The biggest detractor for pushing foreigners away was the handling of covid and the difficulty to return afterwards. Would you define that as politics? The things I don't like are the lying culture, everything is fake, it's more difficult to make really close chinese friendships than with foreigners. Sacrificing all friends and family in original country. The poor ability to organise more than a day into the future. I don't think just saying politics is an honest reflection of why people 'can't do' China. And if it's correct it requires a concise definition of what you mean by politics.
@user-uk4jl4ot6y
@user-uk4jl4ot6y 4 месяца назад
Teachers ?? we mostly call them burgerflippers, tape recorders.. Majority of them just want to get a paid vacation. As soon they meet resistance and requirements from their employer they start whining. Some literally flee in the night back to where they came from. Just like him they start to speak negative about Korea, and other places where they "teach". But we are changing out education system. Using native english speaking people is not a good way.
@singularity333
@singularity333 6 месяцев назад
Good luck getting your money out 😂
@JakeFoster01
@JakeFoster01 9 месяцев назад
After all the videos of tofu dreg, sinkholes, restaurant workers ladling grease out of dumpsters to re-use, and CCP critics mysteriously going missing, I would never even visit china let alone live there as a teacher. But to each their own
@semzip8558
@semzip8558 9 месяцев назад
China is bad but the propaganda you’ve consumed is even worse .
@hayleybarbara1589
@hayleybarbara1589 2 месяца назад
Lol
@zolamadda5980
@zolamadda5980 Месяц назад
Yeah dude. That's what happens when you make up your understanding of the world from twitter.
@katyvaldez8890
@katyvaldez8890 Месяц назад
hahahhaa China is much safer and cleaner than America and european countries... have you ever been in China? have you ever travelled abroad? 😂
@keninchicago
@keninchicago 18 дней назад
​@@zolamadda5980twitter is a viable source along with BBC, CNN and other sources. I realize that all countries have problems, but I could not live in China for many reasons, especially due to the treatment of the Uyghurs and Tibetians.
@emailacct3657
@emailacct3657 3 месяца назад
your back in the sand....ahhhhh.....ya....I know I bounce there sometimes too...
@kamifaye
@kamifaye 21 день назад
I would really love videos having a balanced view (and advice about pitfalls or dangers of scams) for teaching in China !! 🙏🩷 I really want to teach English after finishing my degree, but there's so little fair information that it makes me nervous about whats true or false ... It would also help to know what to look for and avoid dangers 💗😢
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