Why Soldier Boy Is A Better Villain Than Homelander! 

Where do you stand on Soldier Boy? Is he a Hero, Anti-Hero, Anti-Villain or Villain?

He’s definitely not a straight up Villain, he’s an Anti-Villain. He does have a moral compass, I mean he was willing to kill his own Biological Son to keep his promise to Butcher.

Homelander : damaged villain Butcher : vengeful antihero Soldier boy : flawed hero

Not even a debate, I was rooting for Soldier Boy till the end. I hope he comes back.

Honestly if there's any character in The Boys that deserves their own spinoff it has to be Soldier Boy. We haven't seen the full extent of what happened in his life before Homelander was born. It could be set in the 1940s, 50s, 60s and 70s. Maybe get more insight and depth on his childhood and see how he developed into an abusive tyrant. Also the stuff with World War 1 or 2 and the battle against the Soviets

Soldier Boy is a better person than Homelander. Which is not really an achievement.

What didn’t fit right was his past version and his current version, in his past stories he was clearly evil like the rest of the bad heroes but he was more of an anti hero in the recent events. They kept saying he was really bad and worse than homelander but nothing indicated that

Im adding him to my dream blunt rotation

I think the only reason soldier boy works so well is directly because of homelander, theyre both bad people but theyre opposites, homelamder is a man child obsessed with being loved, soldier boy is a mans man who takes it to the extreme, soldier boy wouldnt work nearly as well if we didnt have homelander to compare him to

To me he is an anti hero he just had to kill his own son as a promise otherwise he just wanted a bloodline and he just wanted revenge for what the team did to him to me.

I didn't question anything, I loved soldier boy haha. I hope he comes back wearing the black noir suit just to really mess with homelander's head .

Soldier Boy was never a villain. He was the actual hero the whole time. (Even if he has some terrible flaws) He was the only one that was willing to do what was necessary. Shoulda nuked Butcher and Homelander.

I feel Soldier Boy is probably a better...... person than Homelander, not by much, of course, but I feel that, as you say, he does what he feels is right, I believe he does what he does because he actually cares about the people of America whereas Honelander only wants the love of the people or more simply, he wants them to care about him more than he cares about them. However, I have always wondered what Soldier Boy would have been like as a father to Homelander. Would he have really stepped aside for Honelander to take his place, or would he have been a terrible father? Either way, perhaps it might have made Homelander a better person if Soldier Boy was kept around and not given to the Russians. I'm not saying that he'd 100% be better, but there might be a chance.

Soldier Boy is the real hero, he doesn’t relish in murder. He beats out Billy Butcher morally, as he doesn’t go back on his word. He’s paranoid sure, but it’s justified given what’s happened to him. I think Ryan and Soldier Boy will be the ones to finally wipe out Homelander as Billy Butcher is probably going to die next season. For a spin-off show though, what about “Soldier Boy: Hero of Heroes”.

The thing i feel about soldier boy is that deep down he hates himself. All his life he was treated terribly by his own father and used by vaught, which led him to develop an inferiority complex. He acts the way he does as a way to hide his pain. All he ever wanted was to be loved by his father, a father he could never please. Soldier boy had problems due to his father's neglect so much that he couldn't even keep up in school. So his father sent him to boarding school just to so he wouldn't be around him but of course he failed in that to. So having enough of him he called him a disappointment to which ben became soldier boy and becoming the greatest american hero hope it would change his father's mind but of course it still didn't work. Even after years have pasted and his father died the pain his father left him with turned into just as much as a terrible person as his father. He tried so hard not to believe his father was right about him but when he confronted homelander for the last time, seeing so much of the terrible person he himself was in his own son homelander he finally saw that his dad was right. Soldier wanted to raise his kids to be better them himself but in the end homelander became a darker reflection of him. When it comes down to it Soldier boy isn't evil like homelander or other supes but just a man who can't let go of the past who does horrible things to vent out his pain.

Soldier Boy is most definitely the highlight of season 3.

The first time i ended tge entire season 3 i was like 'soldier boy= the goat'

If captain america had an average discord humor and admire sigma edits as the peak of masculinity

he's an asshole but let's be honest the fact that he sticks to his promise says something about him

Soldier Boy is a flawed person, but he's not a villain. He was callous, didn't care about collateral damage, and he bullied his team. None of those things make him a villain. He had a code of honor and killed to fulfill his missions, but only as part of his mission.What sealed it for me was when Hughie asked him about the explosion in Manhattan, soldier boy's response was, "I didn't mean to hurt those people." He was shaken and remorseful about it. He had no reason to lie or spin it it so hughie would help him, he already knew hughie was onboard for good or ill. He also didn't hide that he didn't care about hughie's opinions. A character like homelander would have blown it off with a smile or threatened hughie to not ask about it again.

he isnt a villain, hes a very powerful asshole. he can show honor and does not seem to take pleasure in killing innocent people, also during the payback fight scene, soldier boy is actively fighting the enemy forces.

I he'd won the fight, he might have joined the Seven. I'm just imagining poor Ashley having to deal with him...

I find it strange that people think SB is this morally ambiguous character when I think he was just a prototype Homelander. Someone made to be an extremely marketable topic. Like HL, he represents what was marketable during his time. Hard work, patriotism, a focus on nuclear family, and abstinence from drugs when he’s the complete opposite. He was born with a golden spoon in his mouth, probably takes enough drugs to put 1000 people in a catatonic state and doesn’t even know what it was like to be in the front lines, likely just buying into the the marketing. Whilst his relationship with Crimson Countess isn’t really explored, it’s clear that his affairs did have an affect on her if Mallory’s flashbacks are accurate in which she is physically annoyed by his advances in Mallory. But like HL, he does have an inflated ego of himself. In that parody anti-drug ad he’s angered at introducing himself claiming that the world knows who he is. Very similar to S2 where HL claims that even someone from the Middle East and no exposure to America could recognize him. He’s angered when Butcher claims HL took his spot, suggesting he thinks no one could ever achieve the acclaim and status he had. And most notably was the Black Noir incident, where he purposely sabotaged his chance at moving up in the world and violently assaulted him when he attempted to argue and threatened to kill him if Black Noir had ever attempted to rise above being his lackey. Overall, he’s just a bad person and the fact his team sold him out with the only compensation being they’d never deal with him again really shows that. He serves to reflect of Captain America as Homelander does Superman. Honelander delves into a Superman who’s treated as a product rather than a person. Soldier Boy showcases what happens when power is given to a person with horrendous ideals. His traits aren’t supposed to highlight him a nuanced person. They highlight that even evil people have their own traits and hobbies. Hitler still had things he probably enjoyed doing, but that wouldn’t stop him from being the personification of evil.

I always found Soldier Boy to be a crossover between Captain America and Big Boss. Simply having swapped the eyepatch out for a bad attitude 🤩

I think, that soldier boy more than anything, ia a superstar, but in contrast to homelander, and the essay in modern celebrity culture, that shows homelander constant need for approval, and how fast it can go away, soldier boy simply is. Henceforth he has absolutely no need to care for anybody else, and yet, he somewhat does! Even though he had severe daddy issues, he tried to love crimson countess, and was forgotten, imagine how much that would hurt. And i might add that he in fact somehow served his country, in black opp missions, and by being a symbol, and not only vought forgot him, but america, the love of his life, and his workmates, and yet, after all of that, he still kept true to his word. And saw the worst of himself in his son, homelander, giving him the chance to finally be better, holding my breath to see where they will take his journey! Amazing video!

I'd hate to be that guy, but Homelander was solidly winning when it was one on one. It took three guys with super strength to even hurt him.

Lowkey if he ever returns i can see him being the main villain cause hes literally coming after everyone the second hes out, butcher, the rest of the boys, even ryan and homelander

Okay!! Everyone keeps getting this wrong. He doesn't have a taste for older women. He's much older than they are Hell he's probably 50 years older than crimson countess. He just doesn't age because he was a man when he was experimented on.

He doesn't kill because he enjoys it or kills for the sake of killing. He acknowledges innocent people don't need to get hurt but if they're in his way it's all collateral damage in a nut shell. If anything he's indifferent towards the suffering he causes by accident but he's also bothered by it, somewhat, not enough to dwell on it though. In the end he's more focused on himself.

Villain? Bruh he was great. He is like a more alcholic version of Ultimate Captain America lol

i dont understand why they made soldier boy a villain, all he did was swipe away ryan and his whole character dynamic changes, butcher should have realised ryan was fine and focused on homelander, it just seems so unlikely that he would switch so easily, he was so close to killing homelander and just throws it all away. soldier boy gets frozen and we're back to square fucking one. homelander is the villain and needs to be stopped, i dont understand why any of the characters got distracted, soldier boy is powerful and an asshole but hes not going to go out and kill people, its shown that homelander has done irredeemable things and will do more. the final fight was a fun spectacle but ultimately ruined the show a lot for me.

Jenson really knocked it out of the park with his performance.

They should have let Soldier Boy do his thing. When push comes to shove, he does not want to burn the world to ash because of mommy issues. And that makes him infinitely better than Homelander.

Soldier boy reminds me of Shane from The Walking Dead in that he is a bit of a loose cannon but is not devoid of redeeming qualities ,planting a foot on either side of the line between villain and perhaps tragic anti hero? Antagonists like this set up a foil to allow other characters to develop while at the same time holds a mirror to the audience to reflect on their own morality- which can be which can be as one dimensional as a reflection if viewed straight or imply extra depth and dimension if viewed from an angle

Season 1: Homelander Season 2: Stormfront Season 3: Soldier Boy Season 4: ???

He is a villain….that ending with Homelander….he ended up deciding to go through with it because he was disgusted with him. He does seem to have morals but having morals won’t make someone an anti-hero, he is about himself and he is abusive. He’s the guy who embraced toxic masculinity and is shocked that others don’t have loyalty to him…somewhat understandable as society told him to be that. You could say he is a sympathetic villain at most

Imo it's not close. Homelander is the heart of the show and more entertaining to watch.

I'm not a fucking supervillain.

The way things ended, Soldier Boy is the only hero left on the show. They f'ed up by having Billy turn on Soldier Boy after Soldier Boy kept his word with Billy to take out his own son!

I hated his portrayal in Gen V. He should have been the fake persona, the All American good guy she would have known, not the real Soldier Boy. It was a huge plot hole.

He's not a villain, probably is an anti-hero but definitely not a villain

The thing I like most about soldier boy is that he's a walking allegory for disempowering the capitalist/ruling class. Given that the radioactive blasts he fires from his chest can neutralize compound v and makes supes normal again.

Stannis mentioned, I’m sold.

Feels like the writers realised too late that they made Soldier Boy way too likeable and tried to throw him under the bus with the whole "he never stormed D-Day" angle. Which is within itself a terrible wiritng choice as they threw away an opportunity to show the disparity between a legitimate hero who killed nazis (Soldier Boy) having to come to terms with the fact that every hero in the modern day is a phony junkie who shits on what he thought a hero could be. Something like that is easily represented even in fight scenes where the skilled battle hardened Soldier Boy mops the floor with all of the PR "heroes" who dont even know how to fight against someone equal to themselves. An old timey legitimate hero brought to the modern day only to see how far his dream has fallen and then having to humble every supe he comes across to accomplish his mission would of been fantastic in sowing conflict amongst any supe that comes across him as they realise they aren't even close to being as good as they should be.

Actually when I debated with people I asked them why is Soldier Boy a villain (considering that Butcher and Kimiko somehow aren't') - NO LIBERAL could have answered me! Because he is not we just have to open our eyes and see that he is even better than many "heroes" in the show

Both are insane villains, love them two. But I think Homelander is better as a Villain. It has so much juice. All his insecurities hidden under his insane power, the image hi wants to show and how he really is... its just insane, and the actor is too good. For me, Homelander is one of the best villains ever in a TV show. Soldier Boy is a TOP antagonist for a season, but I don't see him better than Homelander.

1. SB isn't a better villain and not a better character, je gets carried by cold lines. 2. SB is definitly also a villain, he is literally descriped as the orginal Homelander!

You're missing the point the point is Billy will bo anything to kill Homlander .... mothers milk will do anything to kill sb so Billy turns on mm ( his brother) to get his ending despite his all super are bad

Homelander: Psychopath villain Butcher: Anti-hero blinded by revenge Soldier boy: Rambo with PTSD and superpowers brought back to life

I would have rather seen Soldier Boy making cameo appearances in video games than Homelander.

Also, do you remember what he did to Gunpowder? Also he tried to kill his son. Homelander is definitely the lesser of two evils.

I'd say he falls between an anti villain and a villain. There's a spectrum to it, of course. He isn't a better Villian than Homelander, though.

Straight popped Hughie 😂😂

He just seems like the comedian but actually evil 🤷🏽‍♂️

He's more like an antihero he's done some pretty horrible things but he's not straight up evil he's a very complicated character who toes that moraly Grey line

The key differenct between solider boy and homelander or like father like son Solider boy is a warrior Homelander is a bully They both are boomers the way they speak The way they act, the way they think, the way they feel, and the way they feel understand the world. They warrior big fishs in a small pawn So there both forces of nature that so much stronger than everyone else, Solider boy would inrapted blindshop's ear drums becuase they can. So like father, like son i guess.

He is not villain he is our idol

Honestly coming down to it ill support homelander over him in that context at the end.

Ryan comes from 3 generations of bad dads

If Captain America let PTSD get the better of him.

He's an anti-hero, much like The Punisher, Peacemaker, Venom, and Klaus or Elijah Michaelson.

Y'all forgetting what he did to MM family

He's not a bad guy When I grow up, I wanna be like Jensen Ackles 😊

I don't really care which side he's on but I respect him for actually Keeping his word till the end until butcher f*ck it up But I don't blame em they need to Milk the show as long as possible 😁 Realistically speaking if Butcher had his Vengeance Mentality instead of his Son pity party The Boys could have ended in season 3

Homelander is Joffrey, Soldier Boy is Ramsay

This script sounds like it was generated by chatgpt, the future of youtube is looking bright lol

Personally In all of the boys I want several episodes showing the world if homelander won, if butcher won, and if vought won. I just want to see what it would all look like you knke

Soldier boy kinda did nothing wrong when he got released (definitely was a pos before he was captured)

The thing is Homelander will burn the world down if he gets mad. Hes insanely unstable and will not hesitate to kill and destroy everyhting and everyone if they stand in his way of global domination. Soldier Boy is a dickhead but hes no threat to world peace, hes just a chill dude who wants to sit around drinking and smoking weed

Soldier Boy isn't a villain, and everyone suddenly turning on him at the end was forced and cringe.

It’s because he’s not a villain he’s an anti villain. He dos bad even though he’s trying to do good.

This feels like it was written by ai

Soldier Boy is not a villain, more like an antihero.

Soldier Boy 2024 7:02 😂😂😂

Totally disagree. I didn’t think soldier boy character was anywhere close to the intensity compared to any other villains in the show.

He’s a hero.

no i'm the upgrade

Batman never could against Superman

Both of them are good. But id rather see show about soldier boy, yes.

The answer: he’s not. Maybe he will be one day but as of now with only 3 seasons out he’s not even close.

Honestly soldier boy as a person might be a better villain, that is debatable. However, given the themes of the story, homelander is the one that fits like a glove. On top of this, he, as a hero/villain is a parallel to butcher’s villain/hero. As a critique of conservative values you need a villain that cares for his child, not one that is disdainful of his existence

Soldier Boy should have soloed butcher and Homelander. I can’t see him as a villian. Not a good person but I don’t see him as evil

Butcher is the real supervillian.

He is the GOAT

ngl hes is between an anti hero and an anti villian

I thought Jensen Ackles did a great job.

My dream would be me Ronald McDonald and soldier boy cracking a blunt in the Forrest with bigfoot in his cave although were actually in my basement and bigfoot aint there were just so high were seeing Bigfoot or at least i am

Soldier Boy is cool

I don't like "relatable villains" tbvh. Give me a villain being properly evil no matter his or her backstory.

Stop calling superheroes and heroes who don't line up with your personal religious morals 'villains' for click bait 🪤

I like soulja boy

Nope, wrong analysis, Soldier boy has principles, Homelander is egoistical and cares for no one or anything, pure anarchy

Dean Winchester???

Im sorry did i miss something? Soldier boy is a villain?

*hero

LOL if soldierboy was in place of homelander i would have liked homelander

I don't know , is it because Homelander is a hero

Soldier Boy was simply a more interesting character than Homelander. Homelander is a boring villian always was. As for the show I think i’m done. The season w/the homelander soldier boy butcher fight is the last I watched and I was basically done after that.

He's not a villain tho

He was the best part of a horrible season. The end made zero sense, butcher gives up a clear opportunity to kill homelander so he can betray the guy he broke out to kill homelander… stupid and typical Amazon bs