Why Some Consumer Speakers Are USELESS For DJing  

We never stop learning! Thanks for your kind words too...

Thanks for weighing in George

No problem at all, glad it helped

Thanks for confirming that

Cool, glad it's working for you :)

Glad this has helped you.

I found that the JBL Flip4 did provide updates to firmware, but I don't know what my original one was. There's also a bass boost mode that (is on by default) and can be disabled, which is also described as "DSP OFF" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hUTPtUd4RPo.html I tried disabling the bass boost mode on the Flip4 and it did make the delay go away. I lked the sound better in the bass boosted mode though.

As they add more powerful abilities to join up speakers via bluetooth, they seem to be introducing latency.

Cool, good timing!

Awesome, glad to hear it!

​@@digitaldjtips I had multiple hardware issues both with the Minirig and it's Sub. The gear is not tested to the same standards INHO as JBL etc...As much as I want to support UK independent manufacturer with great customer support mini rig gear after a few months then just over a year to me just isn't durable and well manufactured enough internally. That has been my honest experience.

You're so welcome!

Thanks Max!

I had a couple of Soundcore flares for my Numark Mini setup, but totally outta sync (latency) 😒

I thought I was the only one who recommends that, it's amazing, but for now, I'm using my friend's PartyBox 310 from JBL

Yup aptX gives you no latency

@@bluetooth_speaker_junkie Low latency not no latency.

Glad to hear it :)

Thanks MrFalk.

Thanks for the suggestion, we'll check it out :)

Nice one Mark, we're big fans of them

Can firmly recommend them

No worries then! Unfortunately I can hear it very clearly and it takes all the joy out of it for me

We haven't tried the Minirig Subwoofer yet, soon though!

It’s subtle but it’s there.

Ouch! Thanks for the heads up

Annoying isn't it! Thanks for sharing

Pairing them in stereo mode introduces latency. I use 2 of them connected with wires, DJed all summer at the park. People are really surprised at the sound coming out of those speakers. I got around 4-5 hours at max volume. Often on sale on Amazon.

@@Max_Mtl I suspected as much due to the bluetooth but at least you could connect them with wires. :) How did you pan the signal L/W via wires? Was there an adapter to do this? Do you have a link please?

@@HIMALAYER sorry my answer was confusing. There’s no stereo when connected with wires the same thing comes out of both. To DJ you don’t need stereo.

@@Max_Mtl i get you. I bet you there is something out there that can split a 3.5 line out..! :P Stereo is always a worthwhile luxury! :)

Nice one :)

Sure, this is just for impromptu practicing etc

Thanks for the update Marcus!

Thanks Todd

Glad they are working for you, but that is not my experience with this speaker sadly.

The tribit stormbox is a good speaker. It got reviewed here a while back. It has a JBL type of design and it’s like 50 bucks.

Thanks Randle, thought it would be a useful one to cover!

Would be good!

Thanks Bojan

No we didn't Jac, though it was brought up on the livestream yesterday and Phil is talking about revisiting it

Thanks Lee!

@@digitaldjtips I`ve just watched your video and checked my Sony SRS XB40 with a Numark Party mix and absolutely no delay. Hope this helps.

We'll check it out :)

No, we haven;t made a list. Didn't know about that "hack", thanks for sharing.

Agreed, its really annoying too.

But when I'm listening on the main speakers I'm in the middle of the dance floor. Kind of a no no. 🌈

Thanks for the info, and no, because we couldn’t really find any!

Thanks for sharing!

Yes, very good point!

We're big fans of the "Minirig"

Cool :)

Awesome, thanks for the insight

Thanks for the insight! Good to note

Thanks glad you like it :) Yep, sounds like you can in that case

You cannot DJ with Bluetooth

Thanks for the insight Adrian

Has anyone tried bigger jbl, please I need to know as I intend buying one for my new dj controller.

Thanks for sharing

No I don’t think so

Yeah, Bluetooth ganging of speakers will always introduce latency.

Thanks Mark :)

Sorry posted this before you mentioned laid back luke😂

You’re in good company!

Yeah, it's a common problem.

Interesting, thanks Jon

Cool :)

@@digitaldjtips I know right! It's so easy to pack up on the with the Jetpack, DJ controller, laptop, JBL Xtreme 2 with the shoulder strap, in all your important cables. 🏆🏆🏆🥇🥇🥇

Definitely, small and powerful :)

These are fine, they are designed for performance.

I don’t know, for me I can tell instantly if the headphones and the speaker don’t match up, if I can’t hear anything wrong, that’s good enough for me!

Thanks for the heads up Anthony

Not sure how?

@@digitaldjtips If you have a cable (aux + adapter) that connects the JBL Charge 4 speaker to the 1/4” amplifier output and a RCA cable from the controller to the iRig 2 it fixes the latency

The PB300 is hardly the easy portable speaker that is sought for here.

We'll see what we can do :)

Check the YT channel of Opaz. He's a dj and reviewed (trans)portable speakers for dj-ing, like the Bose S1 Pro and the PB100.

@@Wuppie62 true, you're right that the PB300 isn't that portable, but I'm just curious if it has the same delay that the Charge 4 has in this video. It definitely won't fit in a backpack, but im looking at getting the roller bag for it also if it works without delay.

@@Wuppie62 Thanks for the input! I watched the review and unfortunately he didn't go over the features that I'm interested in or mention if the speaker has a delay when using the aux in. (The PB300 has standard RCA inputs, so I'm hoping there's no delay)

No need to be that extreme, apparently the human ear cannot tell delays that tiny. But if you're happier, no reason not to! (Most clubs the monitors are further than 35cm).

Thanks for the info!

Thanks for the info

Glad to have helped!

Interesting, thanks for that John!

Thanks for sharing Dave

They don’t, they are made for djs

No

Thanks Rene

Glad it works for you!

That's interesting, thanks Peter

@@digitaldjtips just need amend audio out settings in djay

Respectfully, my Bose Soundlink has delay when using my ddj400 and laptop with aux input. To clarify with the headphones plugged into the controller.

@@anthonybruce3482 I have same set up when I dj in my backyard for my family. I don’t hear a delay but I also have headphones on so maybe I can test it through the headphone jacks next time as a monitor thanks

Let us know :)

No, as we couldn't find enough!

How about now?

Thanks for the feedback Ashley, it's sure to help others

Any monitors/hi fi speakers with amp etc. will be fine. It is only multi-room audio/Bluetooth/Airplay etc that has this issue.

We haven't, sorry

I start noticing it at about 15ft

Thanks for the heads up

Also many Alexa speakers don't have an AUX input.

Makes sense :)

A lot of them don't seem to be unfortunately!

Thanks for letting us know Xiran!

Yeah :)

Most club systems are mono, too. It's the latency that makes them non-starters.

Agreed, they definitely sound good

Thanks for watching Jason

This is a recording of one of our weekly live shows, sorry if that wasn't clear.

Indeed.

Phil, Leif from MN here. Thanks for doing a video on this. I encountered this problem this past summer, actually. A little background to qualify myself, I've been playing professionally in Minnesota clubs on Pioneer systems since 2013, trained on vinyl prior to that, so I'm a non-sync button beat matcher. I bought a Prime Go back in July, with the expressed purpose of creating a micro setup. I of course needed a battery powered speaker with an Aux port, my girlfriend had and Anker Soundcore 1, I thought "perfect, I'll get the Anker Soundcore 2". Sounded phenomenal out of the box, but then I experienced the latency monitoring issue in my headphones when I plugged it into the Prime Go. Great for straight listening, garbage for DJing. So I returned it. A friend of mine had a JBL Flip 3 from a few years ago, so I gave it a try, and it worked fine! No monitoring latency. I liked it so much I ordered my own, and I'm still enjoying no latency DJing on my micro setup. Interestingly enough, playing a house party last week at my girlfriend's house, my JBL Flip 3 was running out of battery life, so I had her bring out her Anker Soundcore 1... and no latency. So I can 100% confirm the Anker Soundcore 1 and the JBL Flip 3 will work on micro setups. Cheers!

Seems funny, I feel that the older models have better success!

Speaking of old technology solving a modern problem, I thought I'd throw in one more bonus tip I discovered in this whole process: So in Minnesota, the "Land of 10,000 Lakes," we do a lot of boating. This past summer a crew of friends and I rented a boat a few times from this one boat club that had very new pontoon boats with the ability to connect to the boat's stereo via bluetooth. I wanted to use my Prime Go on the boat, so I asked if they had an aux jack, and they did not! The boats were too new! Bluetooth only! I of course needed a direct line to the boat's speakers, and after about a week trying to solve this problem before one of our trips, I remembered that the boats had FM radio. So I ended up buying a simple FM Transmitter! (specifically the Scosche Universal FM Transmitter FMT4-XS.) I ran an RCA to 3.5mm female y-cable out of the Prime Go Master to accommodate the 3.5mm male end on the FM Transmitter. We hopped on the boat, the boat tender asked if wanted to connect to the boat's Bluetooth, I said no and he was shocked when he heard I wanted FM radio. We set the appropriate frequency, and BAM, total latency free, wireless, battery powered DJing on a beautiful Pontoon boat using a 2020 mixer with 1990s technology! So funny enough, it seems that if you get your hands on one of these FM Transmitters and run it from the master out, if you have a radio nearby with a decent speaker attached, you're in business!

Thanks for sharing Leif and thanks for the additional tip!

Love this!

Well the Mini Rig is :)