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Why Speedrunners Use Nicole Instead in Zenless Zone Zero 

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@AlIguana
@AlIguana Месяц назад
Zhu Yuan's kit is boosted when there is a Support character on her team. Nicole's is boosted when there is another Ether character. so pairing Zhu with Nicole activates both of their boosts. Zhu also has another boost in her kit where she does more damage against stunned enemies, so the team will need a Stun character too. Lycoan or Amby? While Lycoan is a better stunner - maybe - using Amby triggers her special kit boost because you have 2 Cunning Hares on the team.
@RiptornRory
@RiptornRory Месяц назад
Simply put, if anyone else here plays Honkai Star Rail, Nicole is Pela and we all know how critical the defense shred Pela provides is.
@FrostShard1337
@FrostShard1337 Месяц назад
0:00 Element weakness 2:20 Character switching 3:24 Nicole's benefits 5:48 Example damage comparison 8:07 Nicole's field time 9:29 A Rank W-Engines 10:18 Future teams
@kinico5846
@kinico5846 Месяц назад
Indeed nicole does have "Two massive obvious reasons"
@An_dres_art
@An_dres_art Месяц назад
She’s got those reasons too nerfed 😢 She was perfect in cb1
@HanniPham_NewJeans
@HanniPham_NewJeans Месяц назад
3:28 HUH
@Blackbeard925
@Blackbeard925 Месяц назад
HAHAHAHA 😂
@waiwaiyt
@waiwaiyt Месяц назад
Honestly, mad respect to speedrunners like you, giving us players more future based info and guides, super helpful 👍
@RadicalBaka
@RadicalBaka Месяц назад
I’m glad to hear your perspective on this, I personally felt it isn’t beneficial to do mono element this early in the game because you most likely will just have 2 teams built. So having multiple elements within a team might be the move until you have a mono team for each element or something
@Drunkendrakon
@Drunkendrakon Месяц назад
Im no speed runner but I am playing the game relatively blind and it has been really enjoyable.
@scales000069
@scales000069 Месяц назад
I use Rina with Ellen. Res Pen basically does the same. Nicole is on my other team. Def shred is always important
@yuusha2150
@yuusha2150 Месяц назад
Yes, they are the same but just to add more info just in case some people are Fans of Rina and might doubt pulling for her on the Standard. Rina's Core passive, which its ability is to give out the team a Pen Ratio buff (pen ratio makes your characters attacks ignore Def) Rina's Pen ratio buff r depends on how high OWN Pen ratio stat. which Pen ratio can be acquired through W engines and Disc and maybe later characters that can give Pen ratio stats. In this case Rina's Pen ratio buff can go higher and be a bigger Def shred. than Nicole's Def shred passive which maxes out at 40% on Nicole's Skill page. and there is also another difference with how Rina doesn't need to hit any enemies to apply the Ignore def buff. for Nicole she needs to hit enemies with her bullets and her Ether Ball attack to apply the shred. While Rina needs to only summon her Bungaboos one to Activate her Core passive and everyone gets a passive ignore def. Rina can bring better performance when it comes to Aoe Scenarios. where in scenarios Nicole's can't hit every enemy since they space to much and her Ether ball doesn't hit every enemy. not huge of a difference since focusing on enemy is always a thing in ZZZ but its a plus on Rina when she can just def shred everyone without needing a shot to hit an enemy. so basically - Yes pull For Rina she is basically an S tier version of Nicole. now you have two def shred supports.
@tristrichardo2458
@tristrichardo2458 Месяц назад
and also rina's buff is a bit more easier to access since it only needs the dolls to be onfield rather than hitting the enemies
@iDGameTournament
@iDGameTournament Месяц назад
People are sleeping on Nicole. Girl is a really strong support
@rein5114
@rein5114 Месяц назад
finally someone notice abooba real potential XD
@dodgerpatrol
@dodgerpatrol Месяц назад
Grouping and Defense shred + Zhu's go to unit, nuff said
@epicadventureturtle1363
@epicadventureturtle1363 Месяц назад
This is a good enough excuse for me to use Nicole. I find soukaku insanely annoying to use because of her long chain attack. It ruins the flow of combat imo.
@0kaiKai
@0kaiKai Месяц назад
Zhu Yuan stonks
@X1erra
@X1erra Месяц назад
Yesterday I started pairing Soukaku with Nicole to test her damage and it works out very nicely. I don't have Ellen, so this is the alternative that works. But eventually Nicole has to pair with Zhu Yuan, so it's not a forever solution.
@naufalsyauqifillah6388
@naufalsyauqifillah6388 Месяц назад
Ok so what about lucy bcz she kinda like soukaku
@dlvarcade9729
@dlvarcade9729 Месяц назад
What’s up with Nicole’s core passive? It says def shred happens when using energy field OR enhanced bullets? What is enhanced bullets? I assume it was whenever she uses her bullet resource to attack but I only see the short def shred when using the energy field. Tested this on training dummy
@jreamy21
@jreamy21 Месяц назад
Now I feel better leaving my M4 Soukaku collecting dust while my Nicole is built. (Primary reason is I do not have an Ice team, lost 50/50 to Koleda and now I'm skipping Ellen for Zhu Yuan)
@Yasviele
@Yasviele Месяц назад
The crazy thing is that she's COMPLETELY free! the first character you get in fact AND she's beautiful as well and has the most confortable ability to group enemies, now compare that to getting Amber or Lisa in Genshin? those are characters you would only use for elemental puzzles and never again, is crazy! she could easily be a S rank
@-drey-202
@-drey-202 Месяц назад
he got soukaku on absolute cinema
@sazcxieo
@sazcxieo Месяц назад
Thanks for the info! very helpful I will subscribe
@akuwiz8102
@akuwiz8102 Месяц назад
i guess this is my time to build nicole then...
@rizqizen4528
@rizqizen4528 Месяц назад
40% n also suck enemies She's basically ma boooi kazuha, but waifu
@TheStrongVirus
@TheStrongVirus Месяц назад
This is an interesting video, it confirmed my suspicions of people being stuck in what other people are deeming as “Best” for roles. I found that it does depend on the sort of team you go for, my AAA team is fine for damage, surprisingly so. My SAA team is good damage, but the characters I like playing as compared to the better team comp make a small difference, most of the difference is in damage type or opportunity, but there’s some fun complexity within gameplay mechanics that allows you to make a really dumb comp but it still works towards defeating what you need in end game.
@arvandor6820
@arvandor6820 Месяц назад
Freaking love Nicole! My biggest issue with her vs Sukakou is that it feels like she needs more energy for her debuffs... Sukakou can get by without spending energy in a lot of scenarios to provide her buffs.
@maikcampbell
@maikcampbell Месяц назад
Nicole SUPREMACY
@mateszanda1538
@mateszanda1538 Месяц назад
I dont get why does everyone put Soukaku at T0. She needs as much time on field as she buffs, she has 1 team and sux with every other team. If u dont have Ellen she is worst then every other support who can buff with a quick swap. I dont think that if a character has 1 usecase (even in the meta comp) should be valued more then other supports who can do as much as her or more in every other comp, not to mention that if u dont have Ellen or Lycaon she has no synergy atm.
@2fersttwo
@2fersttwo Месяц назад
She is just very easy to play, use hold special to swap to attacker and that’s it keep the buff going. And her personal dps is kinda high too but yeah I like Nicole better
@Laurboy97
@Laurboy97 Месяц назад
She has a lot of personal damage, and if you can comprehend, not everything needs to be min maxed or who is better
@alb7466
@alb7466 Месяц назад
Yeah like Lucy's buff is party wide, and with how powerful dp assists can be you'd be buffing the damage of everything involved in that, while Soukaku only buffs one character and the buff goes away if you switch
@the7thsouls
@the7thsouls Месяц назад
Man I have to level my c2 Nicole
@eurekadiaz3771
@eurekadiaz3771 Месяц назад
When you realize Nicole has higher shred than Rina
@spacecowboylld
@spacecowboylld Месяц назад
for Shiyu Polychromes should I use battery charge once i hit 40? i hope this is covered in 40-45 but i’m pretty sure all battery savers aren’t level 40 by now
@Alex-em6dz
@Alex-em6dz Месяц назад
**chuckles** all those twerps on reddit disliking/disregarding my comments explaining how good she is for days now
@Chronokatan
@Chronokatan Месяц назад
Do I miss something or is this game unbelieveable stingy with free standard pulls.... level 35 now and besides the first few rewards seems super slow to get any free pulls at all. Compared to other games I played this game seems to be VERY limited and f2p unfriendly.
@matthewpranataa
@matthewpranataa Месяц назад
it is pretty slow but they were quite generous already in my opinion, people are already at like 120-130 total pulls. for reference it took ~1 year for most players to reach the 300 selector in hsr
@user-bg2il4xi3w
@user-bg2il4xi3w Месяц назад
i already got more standard pulls in this game than honkai star rail and genshin?? what are we on about i havent even cleared shiyu defense 8 and i already have around 120 pulls saved up excluding around 50 or so that i already spent
@shevek5185
@shevek5185 Месяц назад
It is very stingy. It's a Hoyo game after all. It's better than Genshin but that's it.
@TheTrickyable
@TheTrickyable Месяц назад
Similar in that regard to Genshin. Standard pulls are more difficult to come by than premium but sinxe polychromes can be xonverted both ways. I guess thats their rationale
@loreyxillumina
@loreyxillumina Месяц назад
Really??? I disagree, I got 100+ pulls saved up for second half, did you do quests and collect chests from the overworld? also shiyu defense also gives a crap ton of pulls.
@Aamir-c3r
@Aamir-c3r Месяц назад
Can you upgrade A rank weapon to level 60 or only S rank? I don't want to waste any resources
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw Месяц назад
Are you going to get S rank W Engines? I think that alone solves most of your question that'll bring more questions.
@loreyxillumina
@loreyxillumina Месяц назад
If you got a crit rate s rank engine, then get it as high as possible
@vontecontroll1556
@vontecontroll1556 Месяц назад
Just for the love of all thats holy dont mega invest into any b ranks except like 1 or 2 of them but over all all A to S rank balls are worth its a stat buff
@Grsas
@Grsas Месяц назад
A rank weapons go to 60
@paragonnight437
@paragonnight437 Месяц назад
All weapons can go to 60, but I wouldn't take dps weapon to 60 unless A rank min and I just wouldn't take support weapon to 60 this early either.
@ivansentanu3498
@ivansentanu3498 Месяц назад
I think Nicole is solid support, good at sucking and hit hard... unfortunately no ether DPS for now and isn't she the only ether agent for now (?)
@meetmel4383
@meetmel4383 Месяц назад
But you need to consider as well that "Tryfing" monster is Ethernal, which means it is vulnerable to ETHER DAMAGE maybe that is why Nicole deals more damage.
@allright29456
@allright29456 Месяц назад
watch the video again, it has nothing to do with their damage
@jasonpoh560
@jasonpoh560 Месяц назад
Ellen DPS+Lucy+Unbuilt Corin for faction buff.. Sokaku DPS+Lycoan+Rina/Nicole.. to clear Shiyu with S clear for all stages 😊. Future proof too.
@medon1o612
@medon1o612 Месяц назад
Nicole should be compared with Rina,not Soukaku,but i do think Nicole is much better than Rina if you don't have Grace. Rina is the most overrated character in the game
@moonscorn8141
@moonscorn8141 Месяц назад
you got the math to back this up or are you talking out of your ass?
@DadOfB01
@DadOfB01 Месяц назад
Def a biased comment
@templeknights
@templeknights Месяц назад
bros out here turning every game into a speed run actual no lives jesus....lol
@vetreas366
@vetreas366 Месяц назад
... Some people enjoy it maybe? Not sure why people having fun in their own way requires this kinda vitriolic response.
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