Why Subaru Engines Blow Up! 

Happy little turbos

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So much this 😂

His voice makes my hair tickle.

This is sooooo true!

"Why Subaru Engines Blow Up!" is a Very Broad and Untrue Statement. The 4 cyl is very popular with small airplane builders because it's so Reliable. And the Subaru 6 cyl. is a fantastic engine, Subaru et the engine blocks from Porsche, it's the one used in the GT3.

@@kennethrhodes7143 It's a somewhat true statement, however only with context, that being terribly modified (boosted) ones & ones owned by idiots revving the F out of their engines with no load. Aeroplane builders always use engines in the stable area, in fact most aeroplane-designed engines look terrible hp/liter, but that's because they are run in a different way to what is in vehicles, especially the RPM range, which is extremely narrow in comparison for 90% of the time. So, yes, good engines, very good form of combustion engine in general (all horizontal engines are just amazing imo..) but people will be people & do dumb stuff.

"Somewhat true" ? Ya, and "If" my Aunt had Balls She'd be my Uncle! @@bo-dine7971

I didn’t hear anything good…

@@GregoryCunningham he said the cranks are actually really strong and can make really big power stock, which is good I guess

😂😂 I hate subie engines. 10x the labour for half the power and reliability of anything else.

@@TML34 Half the power? The EJ20 turbo was a perfectly good engine... 30 years ago. 😊 Honestly at the time the Version 1 through Version 6 Subaru WRX STis were a fast car compared to most. I guess the Volvo B20 or Ford Cosworth engine could hold more power, but they mostly didn't have AWD (and the AWD systems in the Sierra Sapphire and Escort RS were not that great, AFAIK?). (Of course it is a little bit of a shame that WRX STis have only gotten slower since then!)

@@TassieLorenzohe’s right, half the power because the motors are junk… Subaru at its best couldn’t hold a candle to a Honda motor at its worst…

@@TML34 If built properly, they're great. One of my STi's has been running 619 whp on 35 psi of boost with 91+meth dual fuel for about 25k kms now. No issues yet. I'm running closed deck case halves, though. Build was 4 years ago now. I don't drive it too much as it's a summer weekend car now. I have another STi for my daily that's mostly stock.

​@@Serpentis666 the ej207 is pretty good and is what Subaru used in all of thier racing applications. Unfortunately the US never got them as usual.

Same here man!

What up my nga

Same here lol

Not owning Subaru is why you enjoyed it

@@thornburyrecords Stupid.

One-sided love, probably one of the worst kind of relationships 😂

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no shit its a machine.

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@@aaronbryan5095 You certainly have a lifetime of experience with that....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

he's a legend

Perfect voice tone to tell you it's going to cost you $8k to rebuild your engine. @@briangriffith3985

​@eskieman3948 man u gotta explain

Glad I don't come to your shop or anyone else I know. Bunch of low IQ apes.

yep, it's a good refresher too, everything he says checks out! :)

Umm... 141K subscribers, 43K views in 2 days... I'm sure he's getting paid one way or another!

Would you bet your life on everything he said? If so... dead man walking.....

Every vehicle driver "bets their life" on every manufacturer, dealership, mechanic, tire brand, other drivers, etc - each time they leave the driveway. Your ? is a "what if" with no sensibility@@eskieman3948

The bright side of you tube!

I know sound is pure opinion, but in 4 cyls., I love certain v4's. Yamaha vmax, honda v4's with a 180 degree crank, panigale... also the cross plane crank yamaha R1's sound similar, and awesome. None of those really suitable for a car, unfortunately.

My 2002 Toyota Celica GTS went 405k miles and still going, can hit redline/lift all day long. Best sounding 4 banger Ive ever owned😂

02 was the best year.had stage 2 tune and replaced factory clutch after 180k miles of straight abuse 4.5 to 6k rpm launches regularly. Car continued past 200k miles until it was stolen and crashed into someone’s house. Then my boss where I use to work (Firestone) sent me a picture saying recognize this? a year after it was stolen of my car sitting on the alignment rack with new wheels on it still going strong. 02 wrx wagon rally blue. Now I have a Toyota GR Corolla. Shit is nostalgic!!!!

​@@firstielasty1162 I have a vfr 800, awesome engine with a awesome sound. I think a larger displacement v4 would be a great idea

It's like the nicest, "This engine is a POS," explanation ever. 😂

​@@DaveP-uv1ml I'd rather see him smiling than see some douchey bro presenter. Why not just listen and not watch the screen? What a dumb complaint.

because he bull shits on and over does it on street engines = buy his stuff $$$$$$ expensive !

@@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm He's the epitome of ignore customer goals and build the motor to MotoIQ bottom line. Unsurprisingly, MOST people don't want to build their engine for time trials or drag strip builds but very mild, close to stock goals. Mike will tell you that's impossible, the only way to have a Subaru motor be reliable is putting $10k into it.

​@@watchandjewelryloft4713Except it's not and he even said so.

Dam hit me where it hurts 😂

It's weird, here in the UK we've had Turbo / WRX Scoobies since 92, the STi since 94. I never heard any issues of them except that when pushed far beyond the engines design window piston 3 could have issues at 100k or so. But even that was pretty rare. Maybe it's more on the post Hawk Eye models?

@@realMaverickBuckley I've never had any issues making 400whp on old EJ20K's. Change the timing belt regularly and keep the fluids fresh. I used to buy imported engines here in the US and never had a EJ20G or EJ20K with a problem. Here in the US our Legacy in the early 90's had a closed deck 2.2L turbo that was indestructible and basically where the 22B came from. The crazy part about them were they were turbo with no I/C or special models had a coolant cooled I/C.

Me too….got totaled by a drunk while it was parked. Never had a problem with it the 3 years and 40k I put on it

precisely

Check out the Subaru EA engines. The pushrod engines I describe as like someone described an aircooled vw over the phone to an engineer. The transmission (that became the 5 speed) is very similar too. The ring gear ID is even the same, and dimensions close enough you could retrofit a subaru diff into a VW (I've considered it). But those EAs have a 3 main bearing crank like the VW too.

@@Levibetz As an owner of a 1971 1600 this makes me happy to hear, I always knew the motors where simillar but never knew they were that close. Now I see why they are so popular for swaps gotta say Im deffanatly going to get one of those feeling parking next to Subarus from now on almost like parking a old muscle car next to a new one.

@@randoorlando443 Well the EJ is totally different, that's the motor this video is about. But the older EA is very similar. Nothing interchanges directly, but it's similar.

@@Levibetz ahh, I figured nothing would be interchangable I gotta say subaru motors are deffanantly far from my cup of tea heck really motors in general but I guess I can always look at subaru as big daddy vw in a way, Thanks for the info

I wonder how similar the water cooled Porsche engines are to an EJ, in terms of "idiosyncrasies"? I remember reading that the VVT in the Subaru 6 cylinder is a leased copy of a Porsche design.

this characterizes most subie owners that complain about reliability in my experience. meanwhile, going on 300k miles on 2 with stock internals over here....

That’s what I’m talking about bro. I never hear anything bad about Subaru. When I do it’s usually a spun bearings, blown block, ruined piston or connecting rod. Then I ask, what did you do?

@@menumlor9365 Indeed, I think once you start tuning a car / doing mods, and then pushing it hard - IDK, I have a hard time taking that out on the car / car company. The STI, maybe if it's not holding up stock cause it's sold for that stuff, but the rest are sold as family cars. You start tracking any "normal family car" and I think things are going to break IDK.

A Subaru turbo cannot handle its own power long term if there is extended WOT use. Such as track days. They can handle AutoX or a track day here and there for a while.

@@jj4791 autocross compared to an actual track(lets not conflate) is most rough on the tires, not on the whole car and the first 2 generations of WRX sold included free SCCA memberships from Subaru. But can you name a commuter 4-door within affordability of 80% of car drivers that could handle the torment of a track day?

The fa engine is great

Shhhhhhh.....

So tired of people saying “this man needs to be protected” like as if you were in a higher position. Boy you need to be protected. No credentials don’t get you credit.

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@@miamibitch305fl we just like cars , engines and wrenching am sorry if you didn't understand the humour behind my comment

​@@bobbyparesh9031I think his mind is like that recommended Subaru timing... Retarded 😂

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See also a lot of "long lasting" Toyota engines - very low power in stock form compared to the strength of the engine.

@@yowie0889everything is overbuilt like hell at Toyota and that’s why my ES350 is the most boring thing to drive ever

No, they didn't have "70hp" - they had much less.

Sooo, maybe don't build a Subaru engine past what it was designed for unless you engineer it? Personally, I avoid ALL turbo engines.

​@@eskieman3948 More like 30-40

Have you ever been to a drag strip? Basically only top fuel do teardowns between runs. There's lots of people who drive to the strip, rip 9/10's all day and then drive back home.

They just accept their fate on the rebuilds part, I mean they’re hard racing a 2.5l engine that makes 800hp it’s not gunna survive that well in majority of engines that displacement or smaller

Baffle that sump gents....

FA/FB engines have a much better piston design, you're unlikely to see a ringland issue. Subaru thankfully learned a lot from the EJ.

Bonestock isn't good unfortunately either. Best results I've seen are quality built motors by a builder that truly knows subbies like Mike and how to properly build and measure/spec boxer engines out, and just mild performance levels of tune, so building them stout and then running within 15-20% of the stock levels, the engine is barely being pushed more than stock but still wakes them up. And then quality aftermarket parts, fasteners, and the engine built slowly by hand instead of a assembly line, fully blueprinted, balanced, and torque plates + arp fasteners and ATI or Fluidampr balancers and better headgaskets and then either custom closed deck plates or epoxy fill, unless using one of the less common closed block decks they have. Then stringent oil and coolant changes according to schedule for severe maintenance schedule. And the best tuner you can afford 😂. Lots of money but with a unique sound and feel makes it worth it if you have the money

Those were both 2.5 US models right? I wonder if the 2.0 models fare better?

You already had bad experience with Subarus yet you still went back to their brand, no offense but does logic not exist in your head?

Get a real car. A corvette C7.

No one ever believes me!

I love the information, I'm about to rebuild a 1.8 turbo. My question is do rebuild this and how much would charge me to rebuild this and where are you located thank you.

I was nervous when send my question but it was mainly, it you rebuild my 1.8 the way you explain it in your video.

$20,000+ for a mild IAG build really hurts the soul when you start looking at what other platforms are doing with just basic bolt-ons. That 20k can go pretty far into suspension/tires/safety. *Caveat*, if you need AWD there isn't much choice.

I tune Subarus and always try to make people understand what was said in the video and explain the exponential dollar curve on modifying Subarus. I no longer have one because of the motor. Hell, I love the new BR-Z/FR-S and briefly considered buying a brand new one. I couldn't do it because of the engine. There are 20 year old NA Honda motors I would rather have in it.

@@yamahaSHOToyota has announced they’ll be ditching Subaru’s engine in the GR86. Not for a couple years though.

Porsche block/case design is much stronger due to being higher output engines. @@DaveP-uv1ml

@@stevef3521 Link, please.

If it is tuned conservatively you are fine.

@@motoiq It is. Appreciate your reply!

both my NA Subaru's blew.. stock, maintained well.. 03/08 My FRS has been okay though FA20. it's a case by case sure, though won't be owning another from my experience...

@@UCMtouchstock FRS with FA20 nearing 160k miles. All original, I drive the piss out of it. Made sure the previous owner took care of it. I follow their maintenance intervals, use the old black MIJ Subaru oil filters. The newer blue filters sold/used at dealerships are taller but thinner in circumstance. I’ve heard they’re made by Fram. I also use Idemitsu oil.

I have a 2011 STi. It's been on a downpipe/intake for about 85k miles. Conservative tune. If anything it's slightly rich. I run Rotella 5-40 it's whole life. I haven't had any issues. I don't abuse the car or track it. Spirited sprints, no clutch drops etc. It's still running strong. For now.