Why Sukuna Vs Shigaraki Isn't Close 

I'm half expecting Sukuna to pull an : Ah, my anti-Decay quirk cursed technique I haven't used since the Heian Era...

Bro really forgot about Sukuna's quirk disabling cursed technique that he hasn't used since the Heian era

Sukuna - Ah yes my Anti quirk technique I haven't used since Heian era. AFO - Ah yes my Anti Sukuna quirk I haven't used since the Destro era. Sukuna - Wait wtf.

The black hole was likely the result of a post mortem binding vow since Yuki before wasn't affecting the space around her with her mass yet a dying Yuki could to an extreme extent.

Shigaraki durability is on another level, he tanked star and strips laser beama and multiple nukes and 100% full power deku punches and can still regenerate

This is the first video without a OPM character in it.

Just a quick side note, you forgot to mention Shigaraki's adaptability, which allows him to evolve in order to counter whatever threat he faces.

Shigaraki arguably may have soul damage if we see it under the JJK lens. He know Quirks have the ability to be vestiges within a body, where they are the accumulation of someone's personality, likeness and memories. So they basically function as souls. So imagine if Sukuna gets hit with a Decay that he can't efficiently heal like other wounds because it is Soul Damage. Remember, Sukuna wad implied to be able to heal from wounds inflicted on the soul but it takes more than normal wounds.

Yes finally someone who doesn’t scale to the domain expansions I would argue that creation and destruction feat scaling should be totally segregated unless we get some reference of how much it takes to create vs destroy but you have to take the wins you can

I already knew this channel will start to speak for other then opm, this means i finally can request a video for kashimo the ancient number 1 sourcerer in his era vs yuta the cursed child.

Banger video. Also intresting thing even if shigi had no knowledge about sukuna he can just use search and he learns about everything about the target including its weaknesses. I hope you do mha vs opm videos in future since in my oppinion mha is underrated in terms of powerscaling

Spatial Slash would not really be a problem for Shigaraki in the same way it is a problem for JJK characters. RCT needs normal CE to work, so if a character is cut in half, they can not supply their brain with CE to generate RCT, because CE originates from the stomach. Shigaraki can just normally regenerate, because he has no real conditions to his regen.

Island level is a very big stretch for jjk characters since they would need to be destroying kilometers and so far no attack in jjk even comes close to anything like that Even Gojo 200% purple is small city level - large town at best

This will be fun

Okay so just one important note I wanna add. Sukuna's slashes are invisible. To the point it's questionable if even Gojo with the six eyes can see the slashes. Only Mahoraga and Maki have so far been shown to be able to see the slashes. I do not recall Shigaraki having any sensory type quirk that would let him see the slashes. So if we are going to make the dimensional slash a win condition for Sukuna, I highly question the idea that Shigaraki can just dodge it, regardless of his speed because he simply doesn't even know it's coming. We even know he can't predict it per se from Sukuna's movements as we know Sukuna can do a binding vow to allow him a one time use of that ability with absolutely 0 requirements. That's how he managed to beat Gojo. Just felt like that was an important detail that was missed.

banger video, gonna finish watching it now

That's not even mention other broken Hax shiggy has like Space manipulation, Impact recoil, Reflect (both of those can send Sukuna's attacks flying towards him), teleportation, several power and speed boosters. And like Mahoraga, he can adapt. His body mutates.

Strength wise JJK is one of the most overrated universes out there

AMAZING EDITING BRO THIS VID LOOKS TOP TIER BRO YOU EARNED A SUB

I’m glad you’re talking about other manga match ups cuz opm chps take so long to come out but can you review the next chapter when it comes out? Pls 🥺🥺

can't wait for gege to debunk gojo's infinity so that jjk's powerscaling instantly becomes one of the lowest in animanga..

Well, it would be fair enough to say that the difference between Shigaraki and Sukuna is even bigger. In ch 410 was stated that Shigaraki can destroy the entire Earth ( also, in previous chapters Tomura was stated to easily destroy the entire world if nobody stop him, and that was stated for Shigaraki who have no Quirks, only his raw power ). Its also questionable can Sukuna scale to Planet level, probably not, because even if was stated that power of Sukuna fingers could destroy world, it's still can mean society ( as we just have no statements for exectly Earth ), as Jogo, who have power of 9 fingers of Sukuna, is scale only to City level at best, so version with "world"="society" sound more logic. Also, Black Hole Yuki can't be scale to Planet level too, as Kenjaku said by himself that Yuki back off her power to not destroy would ( and I must admit that suicide attack could be much stronger then characters regular power, as Yuki can't beat Kenjaku or be on pair with Gojo in power, but her suicide attack is stronger then them ), and Kenjaku doesn't just tank a Black Hole, he just use his hax to avoid it, so it's pretty hard to believe that Sukuna to be Planet level depending of what I said before. But, even if we say "Yeah, Sukuna is Planet level at his full power and its not even a question", its still not enough, because Shigaraki can easily destroy the entire world/Planet even without his Quirks ( so it's far away from his full power ), while Sukuna is Planetery at his full power, it's a quite big difference ( especially if we look at Deku and his power, because full power Deku can be scale to Small Star level AP by calcs and Shigaraki was able to keep up with Deku ). Also, talking about speed, it would be enough to say that UA students ( like Mina ) already were able to dodge lightspeed attacks ( Aoyama’s navel lazer ) with easy, and Deku 5% already surpass all of them in speed. But, taking one of best Shigaraki's feat, in his battle against Bakugo for UA, Bakugo attack was 3,26895593E+30 or 109040.633.633 ×FTL ( MFTL+ ), and Shigaraki just blitz Bakugo with easy ( Bakugo stated that is a huge difference between him and Shigaraki, and Shigaraki is far superior ). Of course Shigaraki's regeneration and durability is more then enouth to just laugh at Sukuna's Domain Slashes ( as even Gojo tank them without a lot problem ). And yeah, Decay Quirk make this battle just even more funny, because Shigaraki can just blitz Sukuna even without single punch and Sukuna will die before he understand what actually happened. And that is just a small part of Tomura power, as he have a lot other quirks, like Body Manipulation ( he can create a lot hands from his body, after adaptation Shigaraki can use Decay with even every single hand or finger which he create and manipulate with body in general ), Air Canon+Radio Waves ( strong and fast attack with huge radius ), Black Lightning ( pretty strong attack, Tomura can use it from every part of his body, which are strong enough to easily take down Gigantomachia ) and many other abilities. Also, Tomura Immunity to Soul/Mind manipulation ( as eventually he was able to fight against AFO inside of his soul and mind )and ability to Soul/Spirit/Consepts destruction ( also, let me explain, vestiges are also souls, soul is the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal, and that is what vestiges are. And Deku, Shigaraki and AFO can damage souls, AFO also show that he can destroy Souls. Plus Deku could damage Black Ball, which exist around Shigaraki soul, Black Ball is representation of spirit, which exist of Shigaraki's memories and feelings, which have a physical interpretation. Also, Shigaraki show that can damage Vestiges World, which is another dimension, the same for Deku and AFO ). So, yeah, Shigaraki can easily blitz Sukuna ( but I must admit that Shigaraki can easily beat Gojo too. Shigaraki have Quirk Spatial Manipulation, which allows user to warp space and create a Black Hole right on opponent's body. And Shigaraki can just create Black Hole on Gojo's head/body and Gojo will die, as Black Hole just appearing on enemy, you can avoid it only if you are faster then your opponent or if you use a trick, as Hawks did for example. But, as we already know, Sukuna is not even close to Tomura in speed, Gojo is comparable to Sukuna, so Shigaraki can easily create Black Hole on Gojo and Gojo just don't have enough reaction and movement speed to predict that, so Satoru will die )

Next opm vid idea: genos vs flashy flash I really want to hear yacine’s take on this and if he thinks it’s close or not

Yacine, you should do a video on "Who'd do more damage in the MHA Universe, Carnage Kabuto? Or Collosal Titan?".

FUUUUUUUUUUGA W Video brother

Honestly I don't really understand how you got Jogo metor to city level, I thought it was a large city block feat at best 😭

w ❤ please do shigaraki vs monster garou

What multipliers were you referring to with Sukuna

the mha verse is underrated

"Ah, my killing stronger characters than me from other universes that I haven't used since the Heian Era..." - Fraudkuna

I really like your videos. You never feel the need to be divisive and you treat all the different characters fairly to the point of exploring different scenarii. If everyone was powerscaling like that, people wouldn't have such a bad opinion about the powerscaling community. That said, there's just one thing that you didn't mention about Sukuna's kit: his barrier of slashes. It's an application of Dismantle that he used first to grab Yuta's blade without directly touching it, at the beginning of their fight. It's basically a watered-down Neutral Limitless, but it still allowed him to block "with his arm" an attack that bypasses durability - Maki's soul-splitting katana. It probably doesn't change the outcome of this versus battle since it wasn't stated or shown whether Sukuna can cover his whole body with this barrier or not - and since it's a stretch to say that he can, as-of-now, Tomura's superior speed would make it a non-factor (except MAYBE if Sukuna has a way to combine it with Simple Domain to activate the barrier automatically)

I feel like people forget that dodging is often predicting an attack/sensing danger.

Could you do gojo vs okuyasu? I just want to know if okuyasu's stand would be able to bypass infinity

Video sugggestion, one character vs a verse, eg tatsumaki vs jjk, u could make some amazing match ups

I do find it a lil ridiculous Gege keeps giving Sukuna ct outta nowhere But Sukuna is such a good villain. That’s not to say shigaraki isn’t. Shigaraki is an amazing villain. His backstory, how he got with all for one and he even pulled unexpected moves like taking some of afo’s quirk which the heroes didn’t expect, he’s good at manipulating and causing fear. He’s a great villain But Sukuna, while Gege does seem to favor him and besides the plenty ct he’s given, is so good. Both of them are heartless and good at it I feel like Sukuna is scarier cuz he’s basically fighting the curses and sorcerers and is evil cuz he finds it fun. He’s basically 1-ving everybody and he’s def gonna betray Kenjaku He does have the advantage in the sense he’s 1000+ years old so he has way more experience, he’s smarter and he’s the literal king of curses and all the strong curses fear him and have tried to fight him but failed. He was also in Yuuji’s body for some time so his 1000+ year old knowledge was probably calculated as he watched and heard everything the sorcerers were doing And when he killed Jogo and basically told him he was strong with reassurance just made the kill so much more impactful. He can invoke emotion in their last moments of death But that is to say, they’re both very strong and manipulative and perceptive. So they both make such good villains for their respective anime’s

Can you do Mereoleona vs Star and Stripes, who would win? both are strongest woman in their own verse

Hi can you do saitama vs jin mori?

Finally... SOMEONE WHO SCALES BASED OFF FEATS AND ACTUAL PORTRAYAL IN THE STORY... Good video, as always, Yacine ❤🔥😤🔥❤

I’m pretty sure that the starting black hole was not powerful enough, but because it is a black hole, and black holes grow, that explains why it could destroy the world. Not because it was planet level, but because it was a black hole. Also death binding vow buff.

This is an awesome matchup.

do Deku season 4 vs awakened Yuji

One thing of note as stated by Sukana himself he can close his domain so yes he can trap Shigarki in it. If we give Sukana his full bag he also gets access to the ten shadows. I actually think this fight is closer then people depending on one's arguments for either character

Would do a video about two monster calamities Sukuna the King of Curses vs Alucard the vampires the undead king from Hellsing.

9:59 But that's a completely natural advantage that he should be allowed..

In my opinion jjk at MHS or MHS+ is a crazy highball considering hakari barley reacted to lightning and sukuna dodged an "EM wave blast" but got hit by a sound based attack and Kashimos lightning, probably some issue with the cursed energy not equating to real life phenomena but in fairness jjk needed that crazy highball to even pretend to contend with MHA

2:00 cook because i hate people who scale high balled feats that are used as pinnacle feats as other characters base lines

Tbh i think its important to mention personality and the situation. If sukuna just happens to stumble on shigaraki, then its fairly unlikely shigaraki would pay him much attention. Maybe just a "are u going to stand in my way too?" And then maybe sukuna could employ his domain, which would work regardless as thats sunkunas domain, shikara would be somewhat screwed by this having been caught off gaurd and likely not know what it is. So hed be trapped. Still a fairly good chance that shigaraki would win regardless give the ap and speed difference but does make things a little more favourable for sukuna. It should also be mentioned if sukuna does what he did to gojo and basically triple teams shigaraki, it could turn the favour since mahirago (idk how to spell its name without looking at it) could cause a bit of a problem if it can adapt. Which sukuna could try and draw out the time with the other one idek the name of. So if things just align, there's a 40% chance sukuna could possibly win. However if we look at it as sukuna wants to try and siment himself as stronger, then shigaraki will make very short work of him. Since not only will shigaraki beat the ever loving fingers outta sukuna, he'll just decay him as he stands in the way of his goals. Like yes the odds of sukuna winning are low but with the right situation or just sukuna taking it seriously, it can be considered fairly close.

Yacine can you do a tatsumaki vs one piece verse

If sukuna doesn't win we riot

you took so many drugs since u made zoro vs atomic samurai

great video but i was wandering why you didnt talked about mahoraga. Since Sukuna is in Megumi's body he can use the ten shadows

Not only does Shigaraki outstat + speed blitzes massively, but he outhaxes as well. Malevolent Shrine gets tanked with ease. Fuga is fodder. 10 Shadows(mainly Mahoraga) are fodder as well. WS is the only thing that would really help Sukuna and even then it wouldn't one shot Shigaraki due to hus superior regen.

None of these guys are FTL. None of them are "country" level. Shigaraki said he thinks he could destroy Japan in a week, not in a second.

I ALONE I'M THE HONORED ONE

Who has more Plot Armor?

Why do people say it's not close in basically every video nowadays

Since Shigaraki isn't a sorcerer and has no cursed tool, if he were to kill Sukuna then Sukuna would definitely come back as a cursed spirit for revenge at which point due to Shigaraki not being a sorcerer wouldn't be able to see or harm.

Shiggy is country lvl and sukuna is mountain lvl so its not close at all 🙅🏾‍♂️

day 1 pls make cıd kagenou and yorıcchı ısnt close

Chinese Sorcerer vs.Sukuna when?

Shigaraki has top tier regen so even a world cutting slash isn’t taking down Shigaraki and even besides that Sukuna just has lower stats in general to Shigaraki. Shigaraki needs one solid touch to win, Sukuna would need so much to even harm Shigaraki solidly its just not fair.

I'd say first but I'm not a dork

Gojo with infinity laughing in the corner(he clearly sees failure in sukuna)

Just important note:Sukuna could open a domain woth closed barrier,as he can shoose between open or closed ,he may have chances to actually defeat Shigi with fire arrow or either WCS but i dunno if Shigi can regenerate from halfed body or brain or any other important parts and organs that would allow him to endure any strong attacks

i don't believe jjk verse is above city level. like gege always says gojo has infinite cursed energy. but the f he ran out of cursed energy while fighting sukuna. yuta has unlimited sword in his domain. but the f i would believe where i can only see around thousand at least. jjk verse is more like mouth fight more than power fight. no one can touch gojo. but the f gojo got sliced into half.

Ima be honest,JJK is overrated in terms of scaling.

dagon's domain isn't a good feat as he doesn't just create an island, it creates a sky, sun. And keeping consistency puts him above sukuna who's domain expansion is just a shrine

What Part of JoJo are you on?

Kashimo's attacks doesn't travel at ls, it travels ls in a vacuum, jjk isn't in ls meta or planetary meta it's an outlier Continental what mha didn't reach that high and they actually somewhat follows the laws of physics, so no light speed None of these characters are light speed or country levels they can destroy major part of a country by going around and destroying shit but can't do it instantly or with a single attack.

Honestly its Sad that Gege chose to lowball Jjk It had so much potential to be a strong verse.

facts

3:27 yuki could generate that energy, because her technique is built for gravity, and a black hole (once established) will suck anything nearby in. its not that yuki is fucking planetary stats-wise, its that she can make something that could affect the world in exchange for her life. same reason kenjaku isn't planetary, he had a CT that counter yukis

Shigaraki cannot replicate what Gojo did simply because he doesn't have a simple domain. Gojo was getting destroyed by Sukuna domain, this is the reason he used simple domain in order to heal with rct and later use simple domain to heal his burnt out CE in order to shoot his red. So just having a regen ability won't allow Shigaraki to survive Sukuna domain. He will get destroyed by it. Also Sukuna can close his domain, and when he said that he could die if he get hit by hollow purple it's after his brain was already damaged by UV, which slow his rct output. After all we saw him tank a maximum 200% hollow purple. So in a normal condition hollow purple cannot kill Sukuna.

Maki dodged Mach 3 Naoya calced at Mach 5-6 ≈ Sukuna with less than half his CE and soul nerfed is relative to Maki, so a healthy Sukuna should be Mach 10-12. Another scale being Sukuna at 1F should be superior to his finger bearers for having better CE control and output. Megumi after unlocking domain can scrap with finger bearers in his domain >≈ Yuji as shown when he fought with Megumi against Awasaka ≈ Nanami is calced 180 m/s for dodging Mahito's blade. 1F Sukuna's speed: 180 m/s × 1.2 considering Megumi's domain buff = 216 m/s < 216+ m/s for being superior to finger bearers. 20F Sukuna speed: 216+ m/s × 20 = 4,320+ m/s ÷ 343 m/s = Mach 12.5+ Mach 10+ Sukuna consistency is indeed very consistent. Can't scale him much higher without being disingenuous and wanking him. Like for example, saying he should scale twice as fast in his true form for blitzing Kashimo, who was before that out speeding him. This is disingenuous because ignores he was injured. Higher end lightning scales are just wrong. Hakari got hit by Kashimo's lightning all three times and only showed movement after being hit. This means he doesn't have to scale to the timeframe and wouldn't scale to the bolt in speed. This is supported by the third instance where he gets blatantly blitzed from a far distance despite being shown and stated faster by Kashimo. Same applies to Maki 'reacting' to Nue. It's been calced at supersonic because of the distance anyway. The verse still uses sonic attacks even now. Yuji's shitty piercing blood. Meguna's water piercing blood. Kashimo's sound waves. Yuta's cursed speech. Choso's piercing blood. It's obvious that the verse is still and always will be sonic in speed. The statement from Gege: '"You went from infinite to mach-are you okay?" To all of you thinking that, I agree with you.' doesn't go against this because its ambiguous on what he's agreeing with and can be interpreted as a simple acknowledgement of the verse's weird speed.

Im pretty sure that lightning doesnt move at light speed

I havnt watched out the video yet but I know where it’s going. Although I believe shigu would win.. him saying my hero characters are faster than light using this dude weird navel lasers is crazy wild😂 bro power scalers man

Season 3 Deku solos the verse

Bruh how tf would shigaraki even see sukunas world slash (danger sense wouldn't even work bruh six eyes couldn't see world slash coming) Also why are u thinking that sukuna would just stand there and watch shigaraki "taking" those sure hit slashes? What? Why would those slashes not even slow shigaraki down? Sukuna CAN close his barrier and trap shigaraki btw sukuna himself said that shit He can also use 10 shadows while in domain (if we giving shigaraki stuff like danger sense at 100% even though he wasn't at 100% when he got that shit and afo's other users blew his ass up multiple times while having that shit) What kinda bs is this? 🤨 this is a huge miss

Yeah I still don’t take those Domain expansion feats seriously as they aren’t even attacking with the full domain they are just attacking with the effects of them like Dagon attacks with big fish it’s not like he’s throwing an island at you he makes the island that’s not island level Jogo who is stronger than him can barely destroy a couple city blocks his Domain was also smaller than Dagons like that’s just disingenuous

Sukuna has been shown to fly. For example, in his fight with Yorozu, and his squabble with Jogo. With this, I think it's safe to say he wouldn't get decayed by Shiggi. However, he still dies by other means.

I’m just gonna guess that he said shigaraki would win😭 that’s usually what I expect from any video doing mha scaling to not piss off the fans lmao

Please do a Naruto vs Ichigo video next 🙏 I need to know

sukuna : twin mete- **dead**

At first I was wondering how shigaraki would deal with soace slash since it’s invisible then I remembered he has danger sense

Monster Association 🆚 Viltrumite Army🙏

The argument that AP can be determined by a creation feat, is bizarre to me. Being able to use magic to create something is different than being able to use magic capable of generating enough force to destroy something.

I can't get behind the speed of light stuff

can't gojo aim a hollow purple toward the earth's core, and could that be considered planetary?

I can imagine you going through the suffering of reading MHA again haha

*no opm character* ? feels strange

plz bro do sukuna vs orochi (OPM)

Shigaraki vs Genos?

Do shigiraki vs andy this is a mismatchh

Light speed Sukuna?!😂

The verse is City to mountain lvl tbh

Bro why are you using Gear 5th in Wano, the REAL Gear 5th feats are in Egghead where there multiple times where Luffy creates objects out of nothing, so that supports the Reality Manipulation. And Gear 5th has even better FTL feats now. Luffy still loses I believe but I want you to be more accurate when scaling what Gear 5th can actually do.

Gojo was able to withstand it due to simple domain / domain amp whatever he used to weaken to slashes significantly, as we know even someone like whats his name who used simple domain against Sukuna could tank his slashes even though he was grade 1.

FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS HOW STRONG MHA IS

Without a doubt shigaraki absolutely wins. also, not only is shigaraki is FTL but do not forget he also had danger sense which is basically spider sense from spider man letting him predict attacks even if they are faster then himself.

We want mash vs mob