The fact that Dragon Ball Z PS2 (Budokai) cut scenes are 20+ years old now and still hold up today is impressive. It took a while for a game like Dragon Ball Z Kakarot to take the cutscene throne.
"What if Vegeta did not interfere?" Then Gohan would not have been injured. Therefore Gohan would not have lost hope. And Goku wouldn't need to give Gohan a morale boost. Nor would Vegeta need to distract Cell. Always remember: everything in Z is Vegeta's fault.
How is it Vegetas fault when Krillin decided to crush the remote and let 18 live? So whose fault was it really that Cell was able to become perfect? Didn't the androids come for Goku anyway? You guys are complete marks,biased and 1 sided. I guess we can say it's Gokus fault that Kidd Buu destroyed the Earth because Goku decided not to keel Fatt Buu he wanted some kids to do it. 😂
@@StayInYourPlace I mean krillin still could've had 18 if Vegeta killed cell 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️ and they could've destroyed Buu or at least never let him get free if Vegeta didn't throw a tantrum but u 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
@@StayInYourPlace Vegeta, having eavesdropped on Raditz to learn about the Dballs, went to Earth and left his own scouter on, allowing Frieza to learn about Namek and the Dballs. So it was Vegeta's fault both the Earthlings and Frieza went to Namek in the first place. Which led to Frieza and his father going to Earth, whose DNA was used to help create Cell (along with Vegeta's DNA). Vegeta, while showing off against 19, used up too much ki, and bluffed his way out of fighting 20. Causing 20 to run away to activate 17&18. Vegeta had the power to destroy Cell without needing to deactivate 17&18 (who had been taken against their will by Dr Gero, and probably why Krillin didn't think it was necessary), but instead he actively HELPED Cell become perfect by fending off Trunks and allowing Cell to absorb two kids. Gohan was excited that Cell had returned from the dead as it allowed to him avenge his father and put Cell down properly. But Vegeta decided this was the moment he should start acting like a father himself for once and tried to avenge Trunks (despite the fact Goku made sure there were new Dballs available so Trunks dying didn't matter). This led to Gohan getting injured and it nearly allowed Cell to win (if not for Goku helping out again). Even Vegeta admitted here that he is nothing but a liability. Which he always has been. Vegeta vowed not to fight again because of this.... And then next time Vegeta fights he actively and knowingly contributed the most to releasing Buu from his seal. Literally every major threat (and some minor threats) in Z are a direct result of Vegeta.
@EndoScorpion stop the cap,the androids came because of Goku and his battle against the Red Ribbon Army from DRAGON BALL YOU KNOW THE SERIES BEFOE Z? And I'm pretty sure Goku stated at the end of the Cell fight when they tried to wish him back I'm sure Goku said "everyone came to earth because of me" so no every major threat wasn't because of Vegeta. Stop fanboying dude. When the androids first came who were they after? *GOKU* pretty sure you always heard #16 always looking for him as well. You're nothing.more than a Goku groupie
@EndoScorpion and how'd Vegeta contribute the most to releasing Buu when Supreme Kai froze Gohan so Yamu and Spopo could get his energy so they find the ship? Make sure your points are str8nand factual before crying and creating your own narrative. When they took Gohans energy it half way filled Buus container. Go watch more and come back when you can put up a decent argument that's not fueled by your emotions and biasedness.
Cell was distracted by Vegeta because of Vegeta's previous Final Flash that nearly killed Cell. Dude has flashbacks any time he senses an attack from Vegeta.
@@TactileTherapy It would not be a fight, it would be a slaughter, and ruin Gohan forever, because he would be a cold murderer. Cell would never give him an option, he needed to be ended, but with the power difference it would be like a tank running over a bug.
@@TactileTherapy Toriyama doesn't really like to write story finishers that are just smackdowns, he likes to write character struggle and journey into it (like really getting you the feel of the psychological beatdown Gohan gave Cell for a while, specially not going for the kill). And this is fundamental because Dragon Ball was a Manga first, Anime second. As a Manga, Toriyama _has_ wrote one sided beatdowns before, they last less than a chapter, it doesn't pan out well, unlike a tv show. However, pure ungah-bungah fights are something fans always ask, even if they don't realize the how it robs the audience of catharsis/joy and downplays the loser. It's the whole premise the old One Punch Man would poke fun of, it even robbed the joy of a fight right out of the protagonist in that. And yes, Ultra Perfect Cell vs SS2 Gohan would have been a one sided beat down with Gohan destroying him.
I agree, but i have one problem with this, you say without interference, in that case, Vegeta cannot be allowed to interfere with the fight as it will just unfold everything that occurred, so we'd still end up with and unwavering Gohan, physically speaking anyways. Unless you really want to give Gohan that handicap which i don't personally think is fair as it's a drastic impact on the fight itself.
This is dumb video and argument. Do you really think vegeta’s little ki blast really weaken super perfect cell enough that gohan was able to win? Vegeta couldn’t even beat his cell jr which was a lot weaker then cell. That ki blast just distracted him and gohan finally decided to use all his power to overwhelm cell. Pretty sure without cell being distracted Gohan would had still win I mean did you not watch how strong that full power energy wave was it swallowed cells wave with ease. Cell could had done the same thing but his power was not stronger then gohan at the time that’s why he didn’t put more power in his wave he knew he was beeped.
Cell put all his power in that wave. Meaning gohan would had won anyways. Cell was not toying with Gohan he really meant to finish him. Goku was even said Gohan could had still been holding back during the beam struggle which he was and that’s why cell wouldn’t have won anyways.
@@leosnyder5264 Cell was literally trying to blow up the entire solar system along with Gohan and the others. He was NOT holding back. Goku speaks to Gohan from the Otherworld and says "You haven't released all your power yet! Let your power explode! You're worried about the damage to the Earth! Don't think about it! You can fix the damage with the Dragon Balls. NOW!" The moment Gohan let loose his full power Cell got vapourised into oblivion. Vegeta just managed to get a last minute suckpunch in. It would not have mattered whether he did or not.
When Cell wasn’t distracted, he chose to dodge the Final Flash. With a distraction, he’s simply caught off guard by Gohan’s last burst of power. Distractions matter when the power is that close. Imagine if Raditz was distracted on the first SBC or 17 being distracted against the Hellzone Grenade. They both die.
6:45 "... and without Goku there, without the Vegeta distraction and opportunity to tilt the scales, Gohan's mind and courage would have never triggered a cheese urge." 🧀🧀🧀
Gohan was about to lose, you marks. Go watch the video, had Vegeta not shot that blast Cell would've keeled them. & it's Krillins fault for Cell reaching his full power,because he refused to shut #18 down & crushed the remote. .
@@StayInYourPlace I always find it interesting how many people blame Krillin for Cell becoming perfect, when one of the main reasons why he didn't is because he would be killing her. Really Vegeta is more to blame, since he helped Cell become Perfect just to bump up his own ego.
@@ShadeDergon97 no ish Sherlock, of course he would be keeling her, that was the purpose so he didn't reach his final form smh. So yes Krillin is to blame because he had the remote that Bulma made. Why wouldn't he take out them when they destroyed Trunks time-line? Stop making up stuff to soothe your smoothe brain.
Nah, as Goku pointed out; Gohan was holding back because he was worried about the Earth being destroyed in the KamehameClash. Even at 50% and one arm, Gohan had the power to match Super Perfect Cell and still hold back using his full power. The moment Gohan let it all out was the moment Cell was blown to oblivion. Vegeta just got a last minute sucker punch in, but I don't think it would've really mattered if he didn't.
Vegeta was such a shock to come in Lets say Piccolo had equal or more power than Vegeta, it wouldn't have made a difference The fact that it was _Vegeta_ of ALL people, to smack Cell, threw off his focus, and gave Cell doubt for even a split second "-wait, if Vegeta is stepping in... this means I can still lose?!" and that split second was the finisher.
To be fair it's cannon that any regen ability not provided by senzu's or immortality heavily drain energy to use. So Cell regenerating from a single cell or his core in the japanese dub likely reduced his power by allot. And that is in spite of the fact he became super perfect after almost dying to his self destruct.
If Tien could stopped imperfect cell with tribeam and everybody can copy each other's techniques. Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan or Goku could have used Tiens tribeam, how strong would it be. Could they one shot Cell or Cell one shot them all? 🤔
Son Goku and Vegeta pulled off Veteran Moves. Goku was that True Martial Artist and Warrior. Vegeta was a Hardened Warrior. They displayed the importance of Experience. 👊👊✊✊👏👏👏👌👌
I think Cell was more lucky to have his genetics of Z Warriors which reanimate him, and let you the occasion to hurt Vegeta, with Gohan try to save Vegeta. So I see the next combat like a tentative to compensate the fact that Vegeta has made Gohan in a terrible situation (and I don't blame Vegeta for that, he wants to avenge his future dead son, it was probably the first good decision of Vegeta in this arc, and after, the second good decision : distract Cell). Vegeta was from the despair situation, to the man who saves the world. With only Gohan without his injury, we would not have Gokû, Vegeta and all Z warriors trying to help Gohan, the end would begin a little anticlimatic for me.
On another note, and outside of the obvious narrative reason; I never understood why Cell didn't simply use his instant transmission to dodge Gohan's counter. I get that he probably wasn't proficient enough in using it offensively like Goku did against him, but considering how quickly after his resurrection he was able to effortlessly teleport over the same distance as Goku, I would have assumed that he'd be able to use it at least defensively.
Cell didn't just want to kill Gohan and the others, he wanted to dominate Gohan. He even challenged Gohan to "Show me the depths of your resistance!" when he launched his Kamehameha.
That is a lie. Many of the Fanbase speculated that sell knew this technique. But this is not a technique that can be transferred through osmosis. Just like Goku black doesn’t know this technique. Because you actually have to train to get it. So no Sal could’ve never use a technique that he has no knowledge of no experience with and no trial and error of. Evidence to support what I’m saying to be the truth is, cell when he was at his most desperate never used the Kaio-Ken technique. Why? He is aware of the technique, but he doesn’t know anything about how to utilize it to amplify his own power level. Just like Yonka Tienshinhan and KERWIN don’t have any knowledge on how to use it even though they are aware that this technique exists. While we’re at it I’m thoroughly convinced that cell does not know how to use a spare ball. Because he never trained to master his energy and which the technique was required to utilize it. The only person who is trained in both of these godly techniques are Goku. And the only way for anybody else to learn about these techniques in order to use them in combat would be able to train in it. Point blank period. The video game messed up a lot of fans because it shows cell using the spirit bomb. But if cells that desperate in the anime and manga he would’ve use the spirit bomb or the other godly technique. But he used neither of them because he didn’t know how to use them.
More like goku was lucky that gohan unlocked ssj2. His entire plan was based on gohans hidden potential, which is not the same as ssj. Goku couldve gotten ssj2 on his own, but instead just stood there with a smile seeing his son get beaten down, until piccolo got him to realize his mistake.
Gohan's cockiness, was and still is a detrement to his character. And it should have been the reason Perfect Cell would have won this fight. I believe one of the games covers this. However getting distracted by Vegeta's well timed attack and encouragement from his father flipped the script on Perfect Cell, getting Gohan the win.
do gods of destruction like beerus. have they mastered mind, body, and spirit. or are they so strong that they are sloppy and imbalanced. not needing to fully master themselves
Gohan was at 50% with only one arm, and was still holding back (as stated by Goku), yet he managed to match evenly with Super Perfect Cell's Kamehameha. SSJ1 Buu saga Gohan (who was not fully healed by Kibito) was almost keeping up with Dabura, who was stated to be stronger than Super Perfect Cell by Goku. So 100% SSJ2 Gohan would've smoked Super Perfect Cell easily. Heck, I reckon SSJ1 Gohan (Cell saga OR Buu saga - doesn't matter) would still beat Super Perfect Cell.
@@EndoScorpion that's all incorrect, Gohan went ssj2 against kibito, he was fully healed, Goku implied he was about cell maybe stronger because he had magic, Android Gohan was stronger then Dabura, and either way Gohan would need to be ssj2 to beat cell
@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD I can assure you it is ALL correct. SSJ2 50% one-armed Gohan, who was HOLDING BACK was evenly matched with Super Perfect Cell. Once Goku told Gohan to unleash ALL of his power, Gohan blew Cell away. That means an injured 50% SSJ2 Gohan was still above Super Perfect Cell levels. And if SSJ2 is 2x SSJ1, that also means SSJ1 Gohan is above Super Perfect Cell levels. Gohan went SSJ2 against Kibito in the tournament, then got drained. Kibito healed Gohan but not fully. It wasn't until he had a senzu after fighting Dabura that he fully healed. The way Toriyama drew Gohan in his fight against Dabura; it's clear he was only SSJ1 during that fight. Goku initially estimated Dabura was around Cell's level, then after seeing Dabura and Gohan fight for a bit, he corrected himself and said Dabura is stronger than he thought. Buu saga Vegeta does say Gohan was stronger as a kid. But the fact that SSJ1 Gohan could keep up with Dabura, who was above Super Perfect Cell levels, implies SSJ1 Gohan in the Buu saga is above Super Perfect Cell levels. Which only emphasizes Cell Saga SSJ1 Gohan was as well.
@@EndoScorpion tell me something I don't know, and that's a incorrect, gohan was fully healed, and he was a Ssj2 against Dabura it makes no sense for him to be ssj 1 he just didn't have the lighting
@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Gohan didn't have the lightning, and he had a different shaped aura (he had the SSJ1 aura). Look at SSJ2 Vegeta stood next to SSJ1 Trunks and Goten. The time Gohan went SSJ2 in the tournament against Kibito, as well as both Goku and Vegeta during their fight later on, as well as SSJ2 Vegeta standing next to SSJ1 Goten and Trunks - their aura's and lightning were all consistently drawn in their various forms. Toriyama drew Gohan as a SSJ1 during the Dabura fight. Kibito literally says Gohan wasn't at full power when he healed him. It makes perfect sense that Gohan wasn't a SSJ2 when you consider: 1, Gohan was weak from not being fully healed. 2, He was drawn with SSJ1 aura and lacked the SSJ2 lightning. 3, His weak performance against Dabura - Vegeta even comments that Gohan shouldn't be having so much trouble. If Gohan was SSJ2 he would've creamed Dabura.
I'm sorry but I'll never believe Gohan was still stronger after cell came back to life. If Gohan was stronger why would the pitiful blast hurt Gohan so bad
The same way Goku nearly died to a laser attack. Or got hurt by the rock Krillin threw at his head. Gohan was focused on reaching Vegeta as fast as he can to get him out of the way of the blast, he wasn't expecting to get hit by the blast itself and wasn't defending himself against it.
Because Gohan’s focus wasn’t on tanking the blast. His intention was to move fast enough to grab Vegetable out of the way; like he did with Recoome. The problem is, Gohan wasn’t fast enough, probably due to being caught off guard and still being upset about Goku’s death.
@@EndoScorpionOr did he save Vegeta because he felt bad that him not beating Cell when he had the chance and he got Goku offer so the same wouldn't happen to Vegeta? And how do you know that wasn't his Saiyan instincts to *PROTECT THE PRINCE* ?
Gokus death in which he caused so he saved Vegeta because he knows its his fault Cell resurrected because he didnt keel him when he had the chance. He wven stated himself that he let his power go to his head. I tell you,people be picking and choosing their own narratives trying to pass themcoff as facts because others agree with them.😂@@GanonGhidorah
Gohan wasn’t at full power. He had just powered back up to SS2 and was still in a suppressed state when he had to go and save Vegeta, meaning he didn’t have time to power up to a level that would’ve allowed him to tank the blast. Gohan SS2 at 100% absolutely smokes Super Perfect Cell, this is proven by the fact that even severely damaged and weakened he was still able to not only eventually overpower Cell, but also completely obliterate him. Gohan simply had the misfortune of taking heavy damage before he could go to full power.