Why Tank Damage Matters And How To Improve It (Blood DK) | Cataclysm Classic 

Get hitcap , expertise is almost usless, then go mastery or haste for secondary

If you aren't struggling with survivability, then hit 8 and expertise 26 before focusing on mastery or haste. Stam is king generally though, but there's usually never any trade-off between primary and secondary stats.

I have raided a bit on my feral this expansion, but I'm personally not enjoying myself with it. Don't know about too much tech rotation-wise, but I feel like it primarily comes down to your gearing and how much time you can catweave and how good you actually are at pressing your spells as a cat and proper Berserker usage. A lot of DPS can be gained by swapping a few talents around from the cookie-cutter tank build, so you can play around with the sims there as well. The feral discord usually has some rather solid information. I'm probably going to invest a bit more time into the feral later on, but is unfortunately not my priority right now :(

Thanks bud! This vid was the reason I wanted to talk about it on the pod this week. Watching the debate right now and it's excellent tea.

No it should not be happening- if he struggles, tell him to use the dancing rune weapon glyph and pop DRW before he dnd; not that it should be needed, though.

I struggled at first. It's really hard to keep track of what the dragons are doing while watching Halfus stacks. It's all about the opener and maintaining aggro for enough RP to use DRW with DND. Once those are down, you have unlimited threat.

Str flask is very limited value over stam- but if you want to parse and you can survive without griefing, why not!

well it's only like around 150 AP (mb even less) over stam flask.

No you still use RS

@@Riyaniwow So use DPS 2p is just for stats?

@@notted3 Yep

Chuck Death and Decay down, then Outbreak - Pestilence > Death Strike > Dancing Rune Weapon, Blood Boil > Heart Strike etc etc....Literally with my iLVL at 306...Im hitting 20k + a little here and there

Army 7-8 sec pre-pull, horn, str pot, DS, HS, DRW, DS, HS, ERW, DS, HS, DS, RS, HS, RS into normal rotation. 40k+ is assuming lust on pull.

@@Riyaniwow when you popping the on use strength trinkets for opener?

@@Riyaniwow Ahhhh alright. I had been using Army defeensively, so I had to DS - Heart - DS - Heart, DRW - DS - Heart etc. I shall try pre pull

@@coachfloyd1904 Macro with DRW

Just ignore adds and hope no one notices of course!

yo phreakkie you ended up playing cata afterall?

@@Variia that was always the plan 🙂

in all honesty,this just sounds your healers are pushing wrong buttons,not even that they might be healing too little. healers should never focus heal tanks in cata,every healer has some sort of aoe heal and every healing class has a very specific role they should follow or else they will just do badly. discs have pom/atonement/prayer of healing(the best heal they have and the most used spell and this applies both hot AND a massive shield on the entire party they cast it on) which will constantly pounce from dps to tank,and they even have shield to throw to tanks for free mana every 12 seconds. tanks are also the best target to use penance on cd to procc 4set/grace/inspiration. can also throw the free flash heal procs on them without them going to waste on some dps who is already full hp. resto druids have hots everywhere,just everywhere,theyre going to have some hots on the tanks at some point. rshamans have earth shield,who is a better target than the tanks? no one,they also have healing spring,which will constantly pulse to heal the tank. they also have chain heal as smart heal,goign to hit tank sometimes when the tank is low. hpalas are aoe healing madness and have beacon,ofc beacon goes to tank,otherwise youre just wasting gcds reapplying it. they also apply constant shields. now,who should target heal a tank when they get low? that is always the disc priest with penance/using heals to lower inner focus cd+to reduce weakened soul debuff+apply inspiration or hpala with holyshock or in emergency you can have rshaman drop massive heals because of their mastery/inspiration.

​@@onetime1337 you're aware theres more than one tank on 12/13 bosses?

@@Variia shouldnt be a problem on any boss,i never felt our feral or bdk being squishy on any boss at any part of progression,and i played disc priest. ive progged/killed every boss on hc during multiple diff weeks. raid healing is always the hps check not tanks dying in 5 seconds, just go for what ever gives most mitigation,not ehp if you care about tankyness from healer pov.

​@@onetime1337 i didnt feel squishy either, because i was using death strikes when they were needed instead of for dps. Thats what this entire conversation is about

@@Variia probably gear issue, I cant recall having trouble maximising dps, the only external healing i ever received was rejuvination.

You’d be surprised

I deeply apologize

We can't gatekeep!

@@Riyaniwow 😂😂 I’m just messing anyway. Looking forward to it, maybe I’ll learn a thing or 2 from it! Can I get in touch with you on disc or something? I’m also really into WoW tank parsing / tanking in general. I think we could have some fascinating conversation! :D

@@alianthus997 Always down to answer any questions. Personally not super into parsing, I just like to provide as much value as I can (and yes, sometimes doing big numbers can be kind of fun). Riyaniwow on disc if you want to shoot a message.

The raids ARE NOT post nerf. People need to stop spewing out misinformation. They are post FIX. The raid would be easy af even on heroic if it was post nerf...

Ofc that's the biggest priority; but it's not like they are mutually exclusive.

Incorrect, depending on which version of the game you play. Post-Wrath tanks are damage dealers and Blizzard has designed boss health with tank damage in mind. In modern WoW, tank damage = survivability.

Tank in cataclysm is so easy and boring that you can at least try to make some decent dmg so reduce the kill time

cringe

@@LethalDarknessHDbroken class, rotation: slam head into keyboard. Not my fault y’all are too dumb to play LITERALLY anything else lol!

Didn’t know a dev was in the comments. High Ghostcrawler!

@@brandonkruse6412 yea i got hired at blizzard last week because I said i was trans and hate the orange man... crazy right?