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Why terrifying turbulence left 1 dead & 30 injured on Singapore plane which plunged 7000ft - expert 

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A Brit granddad died after severe turbulence battered a flight from London as passengers were tucking into breakfast.
Geoff Kitchen, 73, died of a heart attack after the Singapore Airlines Boeing flight plunged 7,000ft in just six minutes sparking mid-air panic.
Flight SQ321 took off from London Heathrow shortly after 10pm on Monday with 211 passengers and 18 crew on board - including 47 Brits.
Nearly 11 hours into the 13-hour journey to Singapore, the packed jet was smashed by sudden "severe turbulence" while passengers were eating breakfast, officials said.
Geoff, from Thornbury, Gloucestershire, had just begun a six week trip to Singapore, Indonesia, Japan and Australia, with wife Linda when tragedy struck.
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@Oceaneyes-eh6vs
@Oceaneyes-eh6vs 11 дней назад
My son lives in Thailand and he told me that hospitals there are very well organized and professional. That's seen here with their medical staff.
@user-cy4mb7ge2q
@user-cy4mb7ge2q 12 дней назад
Looks like the medical team in Thailand is very professional.
@franscrouse1637
@franscrouse1637 12 дней назад
I think how well the Thai Authorities handled this Emergency once that plane has landed is commendable.
@FRLNCR
@FRLNCR 12 дней назад
Yes, looked like they were right on top of it. Kudos to their responders. Condolences to the family of the deceased.
@Drobalar-Drsebi
@Drobalar-Drsebi 12 дней назад
*MR OBALAR* ON RU-vid CURED ME TOTALLY…………..
@selvi7106
@selvi7106 12 дней назад
True.
@ruangreddick7250
@ruangreddick7250 12 дней назад
experience from sunami 2004 ❤
@user-bf8tv8xv4w
@user-bf8tv8xv4w 12 дней назад
Maybe, but it would be worthy of criticism if a major city didn't have appropriate emergency services at the ready if a plane with injured passengers was due to land. They're doing a job that they're paid for, and they aren't running into a burning plane rescuing people. It would certainly be commendable if they were paid as firemen to do something like that.
@Eric-jo8uh
@Eric-jo8uh 12 дней назад
Moral of the story, ALWAYS keep your belt fastened when seated…like travelling in a car.
@monkeybaath2325
@monkeybaath2325 11 дней назад
True. Except when using the toilet (and waiting in queue). Cabin crew are almost always are at risk, since they have so many tasks to perform.
@weekdaycycling
@weekdaycycling 11 дней назад
@@monkeybaath2325I thought it should be the pilot's responsibility to warn passengers about the possibility of turbulence, as they can see the weather on the radar.
@naniwijayanasution1752
@naniwijayanasution1752 10 дней назад
​@@weekdaycycling Clear Air Turbulence is unseen, undetected by the radar, and unpredictable. The plane might have gotten into an area of that kind of turbulence, which is common above the Indian Ocean, normally during the summer.
@kiki_sg
@kiki_sg 12 дней назад
Thank you to the pilot who managed for the safety emergency landing.he saves lives of 200+ people.🙏
@Tigerbi
@Tigerbi 12 дней назад
Thank you Thailand.
@bamb1006
@bamb1006 12 дней назад
Thank God the pilots manage to control the boeing and save hundreds of lives. Sad for the elderly that passed may he rest in peace
@mecx7322
@mecx7322 12 дней назад
SA pilots are very professional and know how to handle such situations.
@ciaranmurphy6618
@ciaranmurphy6618 12 дней назад
​​@@mecx7322 Yes, like British Airways pilots they're good because they're mostly ex-military, so they're trained for harsh environments.
@thurston905
@thurston905 12 дней назад
I remember on one flight i had to warn a mum about turbulence for allowing her toddler to wander along the aisle. Some ppl think that seat belt is a nuisance
@07Flash11MRC
@07Flash11MRC 12 дней назад
Those people also don't seem to understand the danger of sudden decompression.
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 11 дней назад
Some months ago I saw a young mum riding an electric scooter with her very young son attached to her chest. No helmet, nothing. The little baby was maybe less than one year old. Had she fell, she would have smashed her own son under her weight. People are _that_ stupid.
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 9 дней назад
Or maybe they think toddlers are flies...
@CrossbredmiMiyang
@CrossbredmiMiyang 12 дней назад
I was supposed to be onboard on this flight SQ321 back to Singapore but rescheduled to 22nd (same flight SQ321 ) instead because I’ve met an old friend and decided to extend for another day so that we could meet up for dinner, otherwise I could be one of the injured person. My condolences to the family of the deceased and at this difficult moment my thoughts are with them wholeheartedly & wishes those onboard who are injured a speedy recovery.
@mtan6364
@mtan6364 12 дней назад
You must thank your lucky stars that you narrowly escaped a very unpleasant experience! My heart also goes out to the family of the deceased as well as the pilots - they will be undergoing an extensive investigation with lots of public scrutiny
@user-tx4is7ji4r
@user-tx4is7ji4r 12 дней назад
You should feel fortunate to skip the terrifying moments that passengers experienced on that flight , Injuries might be healed overtime , but the trauma of a severe turbulent flight might last forever .
@akhadmea.2937
@akhadmea.2937 12 дней назад
God is with you ❤
@carine4318
@carine4318 12 дней назад
Keep that seat belt on at all times . I’m ex air crew even pilots can’t prevent this as the instruments in flight deck can’t keep up
@NotAnEclipse
@NotAnEclipse 12 дней назад
maybe that old friend is a guardian angel
@user-sh3tv6fm2z
@user-sh3tv6fm2z 12 дней назад
Salute to the pilots, they still managed to control the plane and landed it safely, if not you could not have imagined what will happened! God bless us all
@28ebdh3udnav
@28ebdh3udnav 12 дней назад
Dont blame the airline or the manufacturer. There's thousands of documented instances where turbulence occurs in the middle of nowhere, over clear skies. The pilots couldn't have prevented this
@PokeRetroFan
@PokeRetroFan 12 дней назад
Yeah I was on a flight not too long ago and we experienced turbulence during clear skies
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 12 дней назад
Clear Air Turbulence does not show on the aircraft Weather Radar. It has no moisture, hence creates no return. It's fully invisible, just like wind. Sometimes your cockpit crew can be warned by the aircraft flying ahead of yours 😱🤬🤬 and If possible they will ask the control to change Flight Level as long as it's worth doing it and the requested Level is available. If there is already an aircraft there she won't change Level with yours. Sorry.💪 Months ago my Stepdaughter suffered moderate to severe turbulence on departure from Paris to Lisbon. And she works in an Airline Flight Operations and knows the difference. I was following her flight on Flightradar watching the altitude going up and down like a slot machine and become very worried. Later, the Captain came on the public address to apologise and state that he had already changed level three times without improvement. They were forced to stop climbing, deviate further West and reduce airspeed for twenty minutes, and there was a good deal of panic on board. And it didn't even make the News...
@sameerazenib9678
@sameerazenib9678 12 дней назад
Been in turbulence many times. And once or twice in some very turbulent one where the plane suddenly dipped. It is scary stuff but you do as the signs and beeps say and fasten your seat belt. You ride it through because you have full faith in the pilots that are flying the aircraft to see it through. Its just unfortunate that a senior citizen died due to whatever reasons caused his passing during that moment.... May he rest in Peace
@kevinf-b5065
@kevinf-b5065 12 дней назад
The elderly Englishman allegedly died from a heart attack, not injuries sustained from the turbulence
@fitness_with_duane
@fitness_with_duane 12 дней назад
Kevinf-b5065 Whats the Source of this?
@user-nt1sz5jc6k
@user-nt1sz5jc6k 12 дней назад
Its thesame turbulance caused the heart attact
@mamamememoo
@mamamememoo 12 дней назад
@@fitness_with_duanethe press conference which was shown in the video- did u watch it?
@Infarlock
@Infarlock 12 дней назад
The heart attack was caused from the turbulence, not the other way around Huge lawsuit coming regardless
@nadger1337
@nadger1337 12 дней назад
Im in my early 40s but i think id probably have a heart attack too.
@theresahertwig5307
@theresahertwig5307 12 дней назад
ALWAYS KEEP YOUR BELT ON WHEN SEATED!!!!
@sonyasever7625
@sonyasever7625 12 дней назад
Especially in toilet 😂😂😂😂
@mercurial5810
@mercurial5810 12 дней назад
This man is very intelligent
@janpetersen7440
@janpetersen7440 12 дней назад
Hopefully it can teach airline passengers to keep their seatbelts on throughout the trip. An air hole can appear very suddenly. Have experienced it myself, very unpleasant.
@matmul4850
@matmul4850 12 дней назад
No such thing as "air holes". I just learned that by watching this video through.
@janpetersen7440
@janpetersen7440 12 дней назад
@@matmul4850 'Air holes' occur between warm and cold air - typically in thunderstorms. But the professionals call it turbulence.
@flodareltih6775
@flodareltih6775 12 дней назад
👂🏼 holes
@aktchungrabanio6467
@aktchungrabanio6467 12 дней назад
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AIRHOLES. STOP SPREADING LIES KIDDO.
@whahappened8398
@whahappened8398 12 дней назад
@@matmul4850 Oh I've known a few " air holes" in my day... we all have
@ciarankelly4338
@ciarankelly4338 12 дней назад
I think we should wait to hear from pilots! SIA are a great airline and condolences to family of man who died . Also our thoughts for the cabin crew and appreciation to pilots who were most professional and made immediate landing. Thank you to Thailand aswell and their emergency response teams!
@janeingram7331
@janeingram7331 12 дней назад
I was on a flight with similar circumstances. On a 747 flying from Milan to PHL, our plane nose dived causing all the items in the overhead storage come falling out, the life raft fell out of the ceiling. After the pilot straightened the plane he came on the intercom and said it was not noted on the navigation system. Just then the plan did another nose. No one was injured but I did break my eyeglass that were hanging over the pocket and my foot must have hit it. The plane was a mess, but we continued across the ocean. A second flight was during a tornado in Pittsburgh. When we took off from PHL within 10 minutes the pilot announced to the crew to prepare for landing. That plane did maneuvers you would not believe an aircraft can do. The wings flapped like a bird. The tornado actually demolished a city near Pittsburgh.
@andrewwarui8355
@andrewwarui8355 12 дней назад
sorry for that......
@RandomVideosFirst
@RandomVideosFirst 12 дней назад
Could you imagine if it happened in the toilet while taking a number two or in meal service ...
@ChrisWehadababyitsaboy
@ChrisWehadababyitsaboy 12 дней назад
jackass poo cocktail supreme lol
@bekind9668
@bekind9668 12 дней назад
That be pretty crappy😢
@gtfj6cheb
@gtfj6cheb 12 дней назад
Unfortunately this happened during meal service indeed 😢
@chriscarol4965
@chriscarol4965 12 дней назад
It happened during service.
@silviebreber1523
@silviebreber1523 12 дней назад
Maybe more people were seated as a result.
@raspberrypiploy771
@raspberrypiploy771 12 дней назад
As ex crew of 22 years Long Haul the hardest part of the Job was getting people to comply with instructions, seatbelts being the hardest. Certain nationalities hated any sort of authority. Once the seat belt signs were illuminated many would then need the toilets. Likewise as soon as the aircraft started taxiing to the gate many would stand up and start unloading hand luggage. Having experienced clear air turbulence and hitting the ceiling in the galley on a 747 my only regret was not having photos of the damage caused to the ceiling and to my head to show passengers why we insist on seatbelts. I was off work for 5 months and had 32 stitches. Well done as well to the crew and all the ground crews in Bangkok, such a good example on how things should be handled. Also the commentator David Lamont tells us nothing apart from the obvious just listen to him, it really is a case of 'no sh** Sherlock'
@michaellowe5980
@michaellowe5980 12 дней назад
Yeah, totally agree with you. Recently flew with a Chinese airline internationally, the actual airline was great but the Chinese passengers were disgusting and rude. They don't listen to or take notice of any airline staff, they're walking around while seat belt sign on and all standing up pushing forward while aircraft still making its way to the gate. I'd use Chinese airlines again ( modern fleets, great service and price ) but I couldn't stand watching the arrogance and stupidity from the majority of the passengers ☹️
@raspberrypiploy771
@raspberrypiploy771 12 дней назад
@@michaellowe5980 Japanese by far the best passengers followed by Aussies, Singaporean, Thai and South African. British were quite good but the business class British passengers could be and often were nasty, rude, and very arrogant. Worst for non compliance were Americans extremely rude and loud and often intimidating
@michaellowe5980
@michaellowe5980 12 дней назад
@@raspberrypiploy771 yeah I can understand you rating Japanese passengers highly 👍 I live in Japan and the Japanese are like that everywhere. They respect each other, wait in lines politely and don't cause each other grief. I'm laughing at your American comment as they're definitely the rudest , loudest and worst tourists here!!
@anrashid47
@anrashid47 11 дней назад
Agreed !! Me ex-crew too !! SQ aaah ?? Driver B747-400
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 11 дней назад
​@raspberrypiploy771 the Japanese are an outstanding people. They are indeed many notches above all others.
@EGO0808
@EGO0808 12 дней назад
Those shouting to always have your seatbelt on, be aware that on a 13 hours flight, one needs to go to the restroom, stretch the legs or simply move out of the seat at some time. And as stated in this event, it occurred right after lunch was being served, meaning lots of people in the alley to the restrooms. And it came out of the blue, the fasten seatbelt sign was only switched on a few seconds before it ccourred. I am a very frequent flyer and I can state I have never ever been seated for the whole long stretch from Europe to Asia. One needs to get up at times. WHEN seated, yes, it’s best to loosely fasten your seatbelt.
@steveforster3420
@steveforster3420 12 дней назад
They also say keep belts on even when cruising due to this stuff..just do as told
@Paws4Thought669
@Paws4Thought669 12 дней назад
The sheep have to sheep though ;)
@steveforster3420
@steveforster3420 12 дней назад
@@Paws4Thought669 touché
@Plevins
@Plevins 12 дней назад
how to go toilet with belt on
@steveforster3420
@steveforster3420 12 дней назад
@@Plevins unbelt,walk to toilet,then sit down belt back on.simple,unless you want to go toilet in rough turbulence.
@michaellowe5980
@michaellowe5980 12 дней назад
​@@Plevinsyep congratulations, you tried to be funny but made yourself sound completely dumb.
@Dovietail
@Dovietail 12 дней назад
Stop suggesting and start DEMANDING that people keep their seatbelts fastened when they are in their seats!
@kimpliny
@kimpliny 12 дней назад
Agree. People who don't like to wear belts will not do it on advice or demand anyway:).
@luschmiedt1071
@luschmiedt1071 12 дней назад
With Lufthansa after takeoff they say "you are required to fasten your seatbelts, even if the signs have been turned off" a second time. I don't know how other airlines do it
@1chickenpig
@1chickenpig 12 дней назад
This is extremely rare. We don't need further wrapping in cotton wool giving up freedoms for potential safety. Just put seatbelts on when advised and if it makes you feel better. Individual choice.
@luschmiedt1071
@luschmiedt1071 12 дней назад
@1chickenpig no if you Hit the ceiling and break your neck that's fine but you will come back down and your 200 pounds breaking my neck is not fine. I really don't understand why people want to be rebellious with such stupid things. No one is talking about pulling it tight.
@07Flash11MRC
@07Flash11MRC 12 дней назад
@@1chickenpig "giving up freedoms for potential safety": Lol, what freedoms are you giving up when you are advised to wear a seatbelt?
@lalaley4562
@lalaley4562 12 дней назад
It was reported that they were experiencing mild turbulence initially, like several bumps, but the major turbulence caused by clear air appeared sudden, thus when the pilot had sounded the seat belt sign the cabin crew were still serving with their trolleys and the rest of the passengers saw it flash and the ones who were standing or walking did not have enough time to rush back to their seats and fasten their seat belts before the rapid drop.
@unvaccinatedAndPureBlood
@unvaccinatedAndPureBlood 12 дней назад
When they say keep your seatbelt on they mean it.😢
@hiddenusers
@hiddenusers 12 дней назад
@@moonbalancedd It is recommended to wear seats belts all the time throughout your flight .
@ku-1500
@ku-1500 12 дней назад
@@moonbalancedd it's not mandatory, but if you listen to the safety announcements closely you can hear them "recommending" you to keep your seat belts on whenever you are seated.
@moonbalancedd
@moonbalancedd 12 дней назад
@hiddenusers it's during meal service, people are eating with their trays open, going to the toilet. The pilot knows where turbulence is expected and communicated his expectations of safety to the passengers clearly by turning the indicator off. He also only allows meal service when he considers it safe. But sure, let's blame passengers. It can be everybody's fault, except the crew or the pilot who can never be at fault 👏 👏 👏
@vintubeable
@vintubeable 12 дней назад
It's true... When they announce, 'Seat belts on'... They mean it... Nobody... Not even the pilots can foresee the effect of the turbulence. It's in one's own interests of safety, seat belt should always be fastened to the maximum extent of the flight. That's the best safety practice.
@hydrazine799
@hydrazine799 12 дней назад
@@moonbalancedd Not really, clear air turbulence can't be picked up by weather equipment.
@sassasins031
@sassasins031 12 дней назад
Far too many people walk around the airplane without a care in the world and think they are safe as houses. Sit down as much as you can, put your seatbelt on loosely at all times, and get out of the way for the cabin crew.
@paullbennett2923
@paullbennett2923 12 дней назад
Its a thirteen hour flight you're supposed to get up and walk about ffs
@Keepler22b
@Keepler22b 12 дней назад
I saw a paraglider getting caught in a powerful upward draft. Damn, that was nightmare. Pulled upwards in high speed, in snow and hail far up in the clouds.
@riddim.
@riddim. 12 дней назад
I send my deepest condolences to the family.
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 12 дней назад
The terror was not at 37 000 feet, it _started_ there. Just keep buckled whenever seated and nothing will ever happen to you apart from the scare. A scare is nothing compared with being hit by the aircraft ceiling and have your neck broken.
@Jarocho2003
@Jarocho2003 12 дней назад
Praying for the families that had their loved ones in this flight...keep your seat belts on!
@legendhasit2568
@legendhasit2568 12 дней назад
The best explanation of turbulence I’ve ever seen thank you for the video. What a great one.
@kiatwatgiattanonphds5551
@kiatwatgiattanonphds5551 12 дней назад
Thanks Thai emergency
@BobbyV0221
@BobbyV0221 12 дней назад
I was on a flight. I think it was 2009 from San Jose Costa Rica to Quito, Ecuador and there was a storm so bad that three times we tried to get in three times we got turned back and actually had to overnight in Columbia. It was such a scary time with the massive turbulence we went through, thank God they had the seatbelt sign on or our flight would've ended like this one. They had the service cart out and it came off the floor over a foot before crashing back down. The most scared I've ever been in my life I honestly thought we were dead.
@anrashid47
@anrashid47 12 дней назад
As a retired airline pilot , CAT(clear air turbulence) and accumulated weather clouds were always were our biggest threats. Today with climate change, the effects of these phenomena need to be taken very seriously - due to the effects of extreme surface temperatures and the depleting ozone layers . Above 20,000 feet amsl, turbulence is a real threat !! Pre-departure briefings need to be more detailed and thorough especially traversing the jetstream latitudes and arid regions of 20 to 40 degrees latitudes North or South where the earth's arid regions lie . So one needs to practice diligence in scrutinizing the met synoptics . The best means of modus operandi is avoidance of forecasted areas of threat !! I can only empathize with today's aviation operators. That's why i prefer surface mode of travel without all the airport hassles and weather !!!!
@hydrazine799
@hydrazine799 12 дней назад
One of the best comments here, kudos for sharing.
@maloudelosreyes661
@maloudelosreyes661 11 дней назад
Thanks.. Clear and concise explanation...
@muzmason3064
@muzmason3064 12 дней назад
Always wear a seatbelt as a passenger. A Virgin LGW-Miami flight on his first 747 hit a pocket of clear air turbulance at about 2000ft we dropped like a stone down to about 800 ft, stuff hit the ceiling and stayed there.
@duk2k
@duk2k 12 дней назад
It’s during the meal service how do you expect the crew to wear their seatbelt? You are no aviation expert 😂
@sugoidessho
@sugoidessho 12 дней назад
Correct, and it's an obvious point. Cabin crew are the most vulnerable to sudden severe turbulence because aren't in their seats most of the flight, they're working.
@user-bw5pn4qv9i
@user-bw5pn4qv9i 12 дней назад
I think the FAA should initiate an investigation into how and why internal fixtures and fittings can get smashed up as seen.
@Kylieleon
@Kylieleon 12 дней назад
As a passenger, I’d always fasten my seatbelt once seated! Cabin Crew are vulnerable as they are not secured once it’s a sudden turbulence!
@chriswitt2596
@chriswitt2596 12 дней назад
The comments said that the person that got killed had a heart attack
@iluvfrankmorethanyall
@iluvfrankmorethanyall 12 дней назад
Yup
@ragzpar
@ragzpar 12 дней назад
Explained very well. Was hoping he could talk about wind shear too.
@richardsimms251
@richardsimms251 12 дней назад
Excellent discussion by your guest. Thank you RS. Canada
@Traceishere
@Traceishere 12 дней назад
I love this guy, so clever, thank you for your EXPERT input,
@blueseamarineltdblueseamar6053
@blueseamarineltdblueseamar6053 12 дней назад
Now the cockpit crew had no chanse to know or to find it. To 100 % they was out for CAT, i.e. clear air turbulence which can get such terrible effects s this one.
@tims.467
@tims.467 12 дней назад
People, wear your seat belt when not up and moving around.
@baighelp
@baighelp 11 дней назад
Since 747 left the skies, there is no fun in flying.
@zariwilmot8844
@zariwilmot8844 11 дней назад
Thank you so much for the reassurance. Mabuhay. I am flying from the UK to The Philippines on the 29th, hoping the monsoon weather will behave. 🙏
@balakrishnans2605
@balakrishnans2605 12 дней назад
Wear always seat belt even the sign says one need not fasten the belt. Why blame anyone after all its one's life
@InK664
@InK664 12 дней назад
Very well said and explained thank you very much
@scottwood-nc6dh
@scottwood-nc6dh 12 дней назад
Wow poor man his wife must be devastated
@tripledelight8104
@tripledelight8104 12 дней назад
7K ft drop is very extreme high. Turbulence also known as air pockets, turbulence can cause a sudden loss of altitude temporarily. Most people don't realize " plunge at 7K feet " = 10+ stories high building. My airlines plunged only 20 feet, and already dozen people got hurt. Sometimes, you get a warning from pilots, sometimes not. On the long distance flight, most people sleep and some are listening to music, usually people ignore the warning light.
@donaldstanley4261
@donaldstanley4261 12 дней назад
Absolutely correct
@Brekbo7826
@Brekbo7826 12 дней назад
It didn’t plunge it was a controlled descent
@hydrazine799
@hydrazine799 12 дней назад
It's a 6k feet decrease in altitude over 3 minutes as per flight data, that's a normal descent rate. It was a controlled descent by the pilots to escape the nasty turbulence.
@EGO0808
@EGO0808 12 дней назад
@@Brekbo7826 it DID plunge 6,000 foot for 4 minutes. Flight tracking data have confirmed this and it is read out by Singapore media. After the plunge it of course had a controlled descent.
@wf6190
@wf6190 12 дней назад
@@EGO0808 That's not a plunge it's a controlled descent. Don't you read other informed comments? Stop being dramatic
@jamessmith1652
@jamessmith1652 12 дней назад
A good analysis from a real expert. Not sensational, just scientific and good analogies. It sounds like the poor deceased was basically shocked/duressed into a heart attack. Sad.
@eatdriveplay
@eatdriveplay 12 дней назад
Over-dramatized to say it plunged 7,000 feet, when it was over 5 minutes. At -1,200fpm, that would be a very normal descent. The details of how bad the turbulence, data-wise, specifically at which point in the flight and how far it went up or down...will only be known later in the investigation.
@chriscarol4965
@chriscarol4965 12 дней назад
It can already be seen on Flightradar24.
@eatdriveplay
@eatdriveplay 12 дней назад
@@chriscarol4965 i know. That’s what I’m saying, but there’s not enough fidelity in there to determine if that’s the turbulence or pilots descending. Those data often appear jumpy and may not be the turbulence itself.
@camilas2212
@camilas2212 12 дней назад
so the fact of the matter is that flightradar24 does not show that there was any turbulence at all.
@oreoten8283
@oreoten8283 12 дней назад
Overall, it may have been 7000 feet over 5 minutes, but the photos show a much more dramatic occurrence that happened within those 5 minutes where the +/- fpm were definitely more than 1200VSI. The way the cabin looked, and holes punctured from heads in the overhead doesn't happen from a 1200fpm descent. I don't think the report is trying to dramatize 7000 feet, they're merely reporting what is known at this time.
@stevencramsie9172
@stevencramsie9172 12 дней назад
Considering the damage to the inside of the cabin, including dents in the ceiling from where passengers hit it? Nothing overdramatized here at all.
@eddieleong6490
@eddieleong6490 12 дней назад
Very clear explanation. No advance warning and yet the plane descended over 4 minutes. Plane apparently did not change direction according to flight data, speed went up a bit. Okay the first instance was turbulence....plane went up and then down. But what happened after that? Why did the plane descended so much? Planes have all the means to ride out jet streams. I look forward to the technical investigation plus a detailed analysis of what the pilots did.
@kengleetan63
@kengleetan63 12 дней назад
99% pilot issue. Even if the pilot could see or expect turbulence, he could at least inform the passengers to belt up. He did not. Expect massive legal issue after this.
@mercurial5810
@mercurial5810 12 дней назад
@@kengleetan63 This does seem to to be the case.
@gtfj6cheb
@gtfj6cheb 12 дней назад
The seat belt sign was turned on before the plunge. But maybe they did not have enough time to react, as it happened during meal service.
@geraldsoon957
@geraldsoon957 12 дней назад
@@kengleetan63wow. You seams to be an expert. You are able to conclude its pilot’s issue. Are you on site? Do lend Singapore airlines and the Thai authorities your expertise.
@kengleetan63
@kengleetan63 12 дней назад
@@geraldsoon957 ...8 mths of bonus can pay compensation , no problem!
@NurislamPopov
@NurislamPopov 12 дней назад
I mean, it's also a bit problematic if the ceiling panel drops down on your face. People need to accept, this is the reality of flying a Boeing, seatbelt fasten or not.
@stevencramsie9172
@stevencramsie9172 12 дней назад
the manufacturer of this airplane had absolutely nothing to do with what happened in this event. Stop overdramatizing things
@NurislamPopov
@NurislamPopov 12 дней назад
@@stevencramsie9172 Yea, I'm the drama here
@aviationkrazi1429
@aviationkrazi1429 12 дней назад
⁠@@NurislamPopovyou really are. no need to act sarcastic when its true. super smart thinking to say it’s boeing’s fault for a plane flying into a natural phenomenon. you know absolutely nothing about aviation. your gullibility for the media is bleeding out hard.
@willcall9431
@willcall9431 12 дней назад
You can’t see turbulence. The only means of knowing about it is from pilot reports.
@jimbobafrodite
@jimbobafrodite 12 дней назад
Not exactly true, the pilots have a weather radar right in front of them on the flight deck, which shows where the really dangerous clouds are on their route. I'm an air traffic controller, most ask well in advance for a route to avoid the dangerous clouds, you get the occasional maverick who decides to try it (and then usually changes their mind when they find out how bad the ride is). But no, clear air turbulence is not detectable from the flight deck, and pilots will regularly ask for "ride reports" i.e. asking for us to check if other aircraft have reported anything bumpy at their altitude in the upcoming section of their route
@rudranshkushwaha5676
@rudranshkushwaha5676 12 дней назад
How long did the turbulence last
@daypeete
@daypeete 10 дней назад
Thailand’s crisis management skills is commendable. From Tsunami, Cave Rescue to SQ emergency landing , their responses were highly efficient. According to the news, all injured passengers were sent to the hospital within 30 minutes.
@RoscoRide
@RoscoRide 12 дней назад
I flew Singapore air back from Singapore to JFK and 18 hour and 50 minute flight over the China Sea. There was a steady one hour of turbulence on the way back on April 25 this year.
@ilanstauber2969
@ilanstauber2969 12 дней назад
Nobody is mentioning the possibility of another MCAS failure
@diamonddave2622
@diamonddave2622 12 дней назад
Why would a B777-300ER have MCAS?
@stevencramsie9172
@stevencramsie9172 12 дней назад
You should probably not be commenting on an industry you don’t understand. The 777-300 does not have MCAS, and it’s already been known that this was caused by severe clear air turbulence
@hermanengedal655
@hermanengedal655 12 дней назад
@@stevencramsie9172it’s satire
@user-dd1rg7sd9l
@user-dd1rg7sd9l 12 дней назад
I like to see an interview from a passenger with pilot experience as to what the weather was. I hope Singapore airlines gives that airplane a good inspection for damage, tgoo.
@leas7830
@leas7830 12 дней назад
I have been in turbulance couple of times. It is very scary stuff when an aeroplane "drops" under you but you stomach doesn't.
@user-te3jc3sl7r
@user-te3jc3sl7r 11 дней назад
Long haul flights I don't like. Can't relax 8-10 hours in a plane but I'm pretty good at not showing it. Very sad for the loss of this man and the injuries to others. Actually planes are more safer than cars to be in generally but problems do happen.
@soukainalaoui
@soukainalaoui 12 дней назад
So sad the poor guy had a heart attack he was an elderly man!
@BCFC1875Cruzeiro
@BCFC1875Cruzeiro 12 дней назад
The gentleman died because he had a heart condition...not from turbulence injuries.(probably shock)very sad. R.i.P. This is why you are told to keep your seat belt fastened when sitting.
@saramurphy345
@saramurphy345 11 дней назад
Thank you!
@Ro_-hk4yz
@Ro_-hk4yz 12 дней назад
so sorry for that man. always remember to be well fastened
@jtflypegasus
@jtflypegasus 12 дней назад
i wonder how long the turbulance lasted before it calmed down
@user-nu1sq2fz8s
@user-nu1sq2fz8s 12 дней назад
Obviously long enough
@niveram4768
@niveram4768 12 дней назад
90 seconds
@EGO0808
@EGO0808 12 дней назад
4 minutes, it clearly states in the flight tracking data being published by Singapore media channels.
@memirandawong
@memirandawong 12 дней назад
Exactly, as a former glider pilot we used thermals, vertical movement of air, to our great advantage to gain altitude. Nonetheless when transiting from cloud to cloud I would slow my airspeed when encountering turbulence, which could shear up and down rapidly and violently. Shoulder harnesses typical of smaller aircraft and military planes kept me "snug" but it could get quite rough.
@rickredmond2393
@rickredmond2393 12 дней назад
The 1 man who died, died of heart attack or cardiac arrest. He was therefore not "kille," but rather, he simply died........difference.
@sampono1962
@sampono1962 12 дней назад
there was another report saying thast the incident happened during meal time...hence, cabin crew were busy serving food and usually passenbgers unfastened seat belts when eating.
@nelsonchinasamy9857
@nelsonchinasamy9857 10 дней назад
I have experienced something like this and the pilot advises people to to remain seated with seat belts fastened. But humans are humans and there is always someone who nows better.
@silvarajoomuniandy4316
@silvarajoomuniandy4316 12 дней назад
Good explanation sir.
@Sandhoeflyerhome
@Sandhoeflyerhome 12 дней назад
I remember David commentating on aviation in the 70’s … surprised he’s still alive
@reality_bites_
@reality_bites_ 12 дней назад
I understand turbulence. What I don’t get are ceiling panels falling on passengers’ heads. Boeing again.
@stevencramsie9172
@stevencramsie9172 12 дней назад
The turbulence and drop in altitude was so quick, it caused unbelted passengers to shoot up and collide with the overhead areas and ceiling. These panels are not designed for that kind of force.
@reality_bites_
@reality_bites_ 12 дней назад
@@stevencramsie9172 Well passengers’ heads definitely aren’t designed for hitting the ceiling, but fortunately all of them managed to keep theirs in place
@Xenc5
@Xenc5 12 дней назад
Insightful
@carine4318
@carine4318 12 дней назад
Keep your seat belt on AT ALL TIMES I flew for 28 years QF ex crew . Pilots can’t predict this have an appreciation for pilots . Clear air turbulence can’t be predicted
@invisiblewing2002
@invisiblewing2002 10 дней назад
Around April of Songkran Festival, I also encountered an abnormal turbulence as I am wondering if the pilot is bad at handling
@AlphardV55WR35
@AlphardV55WR35 12 дней назад
Just don't understand, how difficult to wear a seatbelt during flight ? And what's the down side to wear it ? I always told my kids, you don't have to wear it tight, wear it loose is ok, as long as you wear it in case of something happens ....! Anyway tons of people still say: That's my right wear it or not ! But the plane needed to detour to different place ....!!!!
@gary53
@gary53 12 дней назад
the guy had a heart attack NOT because of the turbulance...so many don't help themselves just constantly wondering around the cabin...
@hungo7720
@hungo7720 12 дней назад
The upshot here is always fasten your seatbelt while seated. When a turbulence or a jolt hits, you will be shielded from these threats. We can conspicuously see that those injured passengers ruptured the aircraft's ceiling.
@vora_thk1118
@vora_thk1118 12 дней назад
Because it was during the monsoon.
@EGO0808
@EGO0808 12 дней назад
It occurred high above the Irrawady Basin in Myanmar. It is currently inter monsoon season in Myanmar, so no, it is not due to the monsoon season.
@EricK-mj7kr
@EricK-mj7kr 12 дней назад
Seat belt sign was turned shortly before the CAT. There were storms over the bay of bengal & the place is notorious for forming of cyclones.
@gingerwong143
@gingerwong143 12 дней назад
According to the report, the crews were giving meals to all of the passengers.
@sugoidessho
@sugoidessho 12 дней назад
Cabin crew CANNOT keep their seat belts fastened during the entirety of a flight because they have to serve food and drinks throughout the flight and attend to passengers pressing the call buttons, preparing meals, cleaning the galley and toilets etc. They are therefore the most vulnerable when sudden severe turbulence occurs. Also, turbulence can also occur in 'clear' air, not just in stormy conditions with strong winds and heavy cloud formations. This particular plane hit a deep air pocket which cannot be seen on radar if it's in 'clear' air, so that's likely why the fasten seat belt sign wasn't turned on earlier. And yes air pockets do exist due to sudden changes in air density and wind direction. There is simply less dense air inside the pocket to sustain lift under the wings, hence the sudden drop.
@BCFC1875Cruzeiro
@BCFC1875Cruzeiro 12 дней назад
This man is giving an explanation as if he is teaching pilots... simple answer is use your seatbelt at all times unless going to the Loo...
@RobertLewis-el9ub
@RobertLewis-el9ub 12 дней назад
Tip: wear your seatbelt! Warnings are always given by cabin crew to keep the seatbelt on during flight, but people just seem to ignore this advice.
@robotmad
@robotmad 11 дней назад
Been on many flights with turbulence, some which were very scary which feel like a roller coaster ride. When you hear the bong and the seatbelt light comes on, buckle up and brace yourself !
@geofflivingstone5259
@geofflivingstone5259 11 дней назад
Being strapped in will not prevent a heart attack mr expert !
@SwissooI
@SwissooI 12 дней назад
Uhhh the words should say 38155ft
@edwardmyers8782
@edwardmyers8782 12 дней назад
Clear air turbulence is almost impossible to see you usually have no warning and it can be extremely violent, if you get warning it is because an airplane in the same track radioed it in.
@rxonmymind8362
@rxonmymind8362 12 дней назад
Pro tip. If you are ever flying in a propeller plane ALWAYS wear your seatbelt.
@gulagforgulags6967
@gulagforgulags6967 12 дней назад
Anyone who travelled more than 3 hrs air travel knows that is almost impossible to sit in your seat for more than that. As for the incident itself, it remains to be seen if it was "sudden turbulence" only or "sudden turbulence" AND pilot mistake and loss of plane stalling..
@k4qdex
@k4qdex 12 дней назад
at this point Boeing needs to file for bankruptcy
@leekattestaart7499
@leekattestaart7499 12 дней назад
This shitshow called Boeing!
@aviationkrazi1429
@aviationkrazi1429 12 дней назад
@@leekattestaart7499are you both dumb? imagine blaming an aircraft manufacturer for a plane flying into clear air turbulence.
@skyus364
@skyus364 12 дней назад
So far ...this it is one of the best description or explanation about what happened in the air with that plane.....no secret , no drama about it ...and the pilot actually hadlet the situation very well , he bring all the passengers down in the best shape he can included the plane , the gentleman ho died was for been scare ...heart failure.... ...
@justinehayward2553
@justinehayward2553 12 дней назад
Happens a lot. Fasten your seat belt when you can. In fact, on two of my regular flights, turbulence reminds me of where I am, HK to Europe the Ural Mountains always wake me and over Borneo when flying HK to Indonesia.
@edwardmyers8782
@edwardmyers8782 12 дней назад
Every flight i have ever been on you are instructed to keep your seatbelts fastened and it is not that uncomfortable, far less so than getting yourself slammed against the roof.
@9256steven
@9256steven 11 дней назад
It's almost as if modern passengers think flying has become so safe that negative gravity due to turbulence no longer applies. People think they are on a bus or train. They are in a pressurised tube traveling at a velocity of 900kph through the air at an altitude of 12km, What could possibly go wrong?
@Justyburger
@Justyburger 11 дней назад
I often used to wonder why the obsession with seatbelts on planes and this is it. I actually think, in the safety brief, that they should specifically say that seatbelts are for turbulence because a lot of people think seatbelts are a waste of time. This incident also shows how robust these aircraft are. I saw a picture once, of a stress test on the wings of a passenger aircraft and the wings were pulled up so much that the tips were almost touching each other. That showed me just how much flexibility the wings potentially have. Ever since then, I have never been concerned with turbulence. I've seen it more of an interesting thing, than a dangerous thing. But...I used to also experience turbulence in the helicopters that I would take to the North Sea Oil Rigs and that used to concern me more. Still....a chopper going down was extremely rare.
@kbboy101
@kbboy101 12 дней назад
So, I am not the only one who finds it difficult to pronounce "Cumulonimbus clouds". Even a native speaker is struggling.
@AndrewRoberts11
@AndrewRoberts11 12 дней назад
He sounds English, rather than Italian, Cumulonimbus is a loan word used in English.
@chokomite6036
@chokomite6036 12 дней назад
How the people would know if its real turbulence or pilot error?
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